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carlos3652
04-03-2007, 12:20 PM
ROYALS 7, RED SOX 1
Open wound
Royals put a hurtin' on Schilling and Sox
By Gordon Edes, Globe Staff | April 3, 2007

KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- For their amusement the night before they opened the 107th season of Red Sox baseball, a group of players went to see the testosterone-driven hit movie "300," in which a small band of hopelessly outnumbered Spartans holds off wave after wave of attacking Persian forces.


It's doubtful whether any of them anticipated any parallels between the film and the 7-1 defeat they absorbed yesterday at the hands of the Kansas City Royals, a team that regularly has been crushed by baseball's big-market bullies but yesterday proved more than the equal of a team with vastly superior resources.

The Royals, seizing the opening left them by an out-of-sorts Curt Schilling and cashing in on their own widely lampooned investment in pitcher Gil Meche, knocked Schilling out of the game after four innings and coasted to their most one-sided Opening Day win since 1979. The Sox now have lost six of their last seven openers, their only win coming in Texas last year.

"Very disappointing," said Schilling, who gave up eight hits, walked in a run with the bases loaded, and hadn't been knocked out of a regular-season game this early in 10 years.

"As a starting pitcher, you can make your team look a lot worse than it is some days. Today, absolutely, was one of those days."


While the Sox managed just six hits against Meche, David Ortiz's first-inning RBI double accounting for their only run, the Royals had a dozen hits, including two triples by a kid who used to run around Fenway Park while his dad played baseball for the Sox.

Shortstop Tony Pena Jr., so new to the Royals that he still didn't have a name plate over his locker ("It was delivered to the park and signed for," said a Royals official, "but no one knows where it is"), tripled and scored the go-ahead run in the second, then tripled home the Royals' final run in the eighth.

"I remember playing with a taped ball with Frank Viola's son in a hallway outside the Fenway family room," said Pena, whose father, of course, is the former Sox catcher and Royals manager who departed Kansas City under strained circumstances, which is about the only way a manager leaves a franchise that has lost 100 games or more in four of the last five seasons. "John Flaherty used to get down with my father and play with me, too."

Pena, who was out of options with Atlanta, was acquired just over a week ago by new general manager Dayton Moore, who was interviewed for the Sox job by Larry Lucchino and Tom Werner during that faux window in 2005 when Theo Epstein vacated his office, then risked apparent career suicide by making his first act as Royals GM the signing of Meche.Continued...


An age of uncertainty: At 40, Curt is starting to show signs of wear

Yesterday? It was just one start and one game for a man who has proved, time and time again, that he truly embraces a challenge as much as anyone who ever played the game. That the Red Sox [team stats] failed to give Schilling a contract extension this spring really does not mean much, largely because Schilling still has control over his fate. If he wins, he gets his money. If he loses, he does not.

Not so long ago, there never would have been a doubt. Schilling is 8-2 with a 2.06 ERA in his postseason career and his teams have won seven of the nine postseason series in which he has played. Along with Randy Johnson, he was co-Most Valuable Player of the 2001 World Series.

Faced with the prospect of pitching for a contract, we know how the Curt Schilling [stats] of old would have performed.

Here’s hoping that he is still that man.



team that regularly has been crushed by baseball's big-market bullies LOL, did they forget the Royals won the Season Series vs the Red sox 5-4 last year... and the last 6 of 7 games...

Fish
04-03-2007, 12:32 PM
Go Royals!

http://www.frontrowking.com/baseball/images/Kansascity.jpg


Anybody gonna tailgate Wednesday's game? I'm thinking of hitting that one too....

cadmonkey
04-03-2007, 12:37 PM
You have to understand that the Boston media loves to torture their players if they have a bad game. Plus the fact that he was bitching that he deserved a new contract, and they are just making a point saying that if you can't beat a team you are supposed to beat why would we give you more money.

Schilling has been spouting his mouth off about all sorts of things lately and they are simply saying "shut up and show us what you are worth if you really think you are worth anything."

He has been saying he is going to focus less on striking guys out and having them put the ball in play to keep his pitch count down. Looks like that worked well for him.

Dr. Facebook Fever
04-03-2007, 12:57 PM
I just hope we don't get butchered in the next two games now.

Sully
04-03-2007, 01:00 PM
I just hope we don't get butchered in the next two games now.
I'm going to the next two, and as much as it bugs the shit out of me when folks are perma-negative, I have some definite fears about seeing a win.

StcChief
04-03-2007, 01:03 PM
I'm going to the next two, and as much as it bugs the shit out of me when folks are perma-negative, I have some definite fears about seeing a win.

You wouldn't if they could put a competitive product on the field.

Stewie
04-03-2007, 01:44 PM
I'm going to the next two, and as much as it bugs the shit out of me when folks are perma-negative, I have some definite fears about seeing a win.

We'll win one of the next two. My bet is that Greinke will have a good day since he's looked good this spring.

Well, that's the kiss of death. Nevermind. :)

tk13
04-03-2007, 02:28 PM
Schilling looked almost out of shape to me.

Valiant
04-03-2007, 02:36 PM
Shit trade him to us for cash then you pussies..

MIAdragon
04-03-2007, 02:48 PM
Its just the media in Boston, they need to whine about something.

As a true Sox fan I don’t think we are worried about Schill, he had an off night, not to take anything away from the Royals. That is the earliest he’s left a game in some 260+ starts. Beckett worries me.

tk13
04-03-2007, 02:51 PM
I'm the opposite of everybody else. I half expected us to hit Schilling and Dice-K, and I'm worried Beckett will rip us up tomorrow night.

sedated
04-03-2007, 02:55 PM
Beckett hasn't looked great since going to Boston, but we have Perez throwing, so who knows.

Dice-K will probably be unhittable early in his career because he's so different. He'll probably parallel Nomo.

CoMoChief
04-03-2007, 03:00 PM
I said this yesterday after the game that he looked old and looked like he had lost some velocity, then the offspeed stuff we were hitting.

The people on here were saying he was throwing in the mid 90's according to the "iffy" radar gun on the board at the K. RSTN radar gun showed that he wasn't pitching his fastball anymore than 91-92mph.

Meche on the other hand was throwing around 95 at times.

MIAdragon
04-03-2007, 03:24 PM
Beckett hasn't looked great since going to Boston, but we have Perez throwing, so who knows.

Dice-K will probably be unhittable early in his career because he's so different. He'll probably parallel Nomo.

I know its early but I don’t think you can really even come close to comparing Nomo to Dice. The fact that K is “new” will be an advantage but I think his six pitch arsenal will dominate. I hope anyway.

Jordan
04-03-2007, 03:28 PM
Whatever negative people. The Royals have a GOOD team - not great, but mos def not a 100 loss club even with playing in the best division in baseball. Dayton has done wonders in just a few months on the job; I cant wait to see his product in 2 more years....we're on the rise, yo!

All I know is that the Dick-K / Grienke match-up this Thursday is gonna be AWESOME!!! Imma be there screamin till my face turns Royal Blue.

Jordan
04-03-2007, 03:29 PM
I know its early but I don’t think you can really even come close to comparing Nomo to Dice. The fact that K is “new” will be an advantage but I think his six pitch arsenal will dominate. I hope anyway.



Oh, 1 more thing. I heard he has 8 pitches, not just a measly 6 (which is still double most pitchers)

The Gyro ball comes to KC on Thursday!!!!!

kcfanXIII
04-03-2007, 03:44 PM
i'll be there to cheer on grienke, but i look for a good game no matter the outcome. dice-k could be really special, i agree its too early in his career to compare him to nomo.

Cochise
04-03-2007, 03:55 PM
I know its early but I don’t think you can really even come close to comparing Nomo to Dice. The fact that K is “new” will be an advantage but I think his six pitch arsenal will dominate. I hope anyway.

I don't know anything about him, but there were teams fighting over the right to spend a hundred million dollars on him, so there has to be something to it.

MIAdragon
04-03-2007, 04:42 PM
Oh, 1 more thing. I heard he has 8 pitches, not just a measly 6 (which is still double most pitchers)

The Gyro ball comes to KC on Thursday!!!!!

He's looked strong in most of his ST starts but its a whole new ball game now.

Sure-Oz
04-03-2007, 04:49 PM
First career start in the big leagues, he should be nervous and we need to take advantage.

beer bacon
04-03-2007, 05:20 PM
I said this yesterday after the game that he looked old and looked like he had lost some velocity, then the offspeed stuff we were hitting.

The people on here were saying he was throwing in the mid 90's according to the "iffy" radar gun on the board at the K. RSTN radar gun showed that he wasn't pitching his fastball anymore than 91-92mph.

Meche on the other hand was throwing around 95 at times.

You should read Schilling's blog. He blamed his performance yesterday on a complete lack of command.

MIAdragon
04-03-2007, 05:57 PM
You should read Schilling's blog. He blamed his performance yesterday on a complete lack of command.

is there any question that it wasn’t?