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OctoberFart
04-04-2007, 04:40 PM
Oakland or KC QUEEFS?

DL advantage Oakland Sapp, Burgess, Kelly, Sands are better than DUI BOY, Hali and the rest of scrub DT's.

LB's advantage Oakland. Young LB's in Morrison, Howard, Williams are some of the most underated in the league. KC is pretty good with DJ being the best and NAP hasn't been the same since he left Oak town and Edwards is a stop gap at this point in his career.

Secondary isn't even close as Oaklands young DB's have proved to be bigger playmakers playing in a tough man to man D instead of a crappy talent masking cover 2. Ty Law is one of the most overrated CB's ever and has made his name on 3 good games in his career.

Overall stats

Oakland
3 overall in league

NAME YDS YPG RUSH RUSH YPG PASS PASS YPG PTS PTS/G
Oakland 4557 284.8 2144 134.0 2413 150.8 332 20.8

Oaklands Pts allowed is amazing since they fielded the worst offense in the history of NFL last year.

KC
16 overall in league

NAME YDS YPG RUSH RUSH YPG PASS PASS YPG PTS PTS/G
Kansas City 5262 328.9 1928 120.5 3334 208.4 315 19.7

Can't wait to see how the homers here spin their arguments that KC's D is better.

ChiefFripp
04-04-2007, 04:42 PM
Who has won every matchup the last 4 seasons? I guess you have to grasp at something you inbred prison bitch!

keg in kc
04-04-2007, 04:43 PM
Here's a question for you:

Whose record is better?

That's right. People who graduated 8th grade use the word "Whose".

penguinz
04-04-2007, 04:44 PM
2006 Records

KC 9-7
Oak 2-14

jidar
04-04-2007, 04:44 PM
Now if only Oakland could win football games.

lol

Sully
04-04-2007, 04:44 PM
Let me know when that awesome D wins an AFC West game.

penguinz
04-04-2007, 04:45 PM
Here's a question for you:

Whose record is better?

That's right. People who graduated 8th grade use the word "Whose".lol

Der Flöprer
04-04-2007, 04:46 PM
Google this and see what you come up with. Just copy and paste.

chiefs record vs raiders since 1990

Fruit Ninja
04-04-2007, 04:46 PM
Let me know when that awesome D wins an AFC West game.
haha, or a running back that can hit 100 yards.

Has Gallery gone a game without giving up a sack?

OctoberFart
04-04-2007, 04:47 PM
Google this and see what you come up with. Just copy and paste.

chiefs record vs raiders since 1990

While your at it google SB appearances and Wins.

StcChief
04-04-2007, 04:47 PM
Chokeland.... but.....Stats are everything......ROFL

HolmeZz
04-04-2007, 04:48 PM
Trolling isn't a bannable offense?

Sully
04-04-2007, 04:48 PM
While your at it google SB appearances and Wins.

Yawn.

I remember something I did cool 30 years ago, too. It was great.

Fruit Ninja
04-04-2007, 04:52 PM
Trolling isn't a bannable offense?
Not when his team is worse then ours. This is just good entertainment right here.

Joie
04-04-2007, 04:52 PM
While your at it google SB appearances and Wins.

Chief Chief
04-04-2007, 04:53 PM
When your offense rarely makes a first down and often gives the opp's O the ball in decent field position, ya can't expect your #3-rated D to keep them from scoring all the time, even without committing penalties. Props to Chokeland's defense and its defensive coaching staff, and a slap on the back of AutumnWind (obviously a true-black Fader homer if ever there was one)...BUT...your team (and I use that term in describing the Faders extremely loosely) finished with the worst record in the entire NFL (that's #32 in wins & #1 in losses) and it still sucks big balls!!

ChiefFripp
04-04-2007, 04:54 PM
The RaiDURs are the worst team in football, where does this guy get the nerve to even think about our Chiefs? I guess getting bitchslapped 8 games in a row by a far superior team does things to a RaidDUR fan.

kepp
04-04-2007, 05:00 PM
Chokeland.... but.....Stats are everything......ROFL
Al Davis - "Just STATS, baby!"

LiL stumppy
04-04-2007, 05:00 PM
yay,something to make my day.

listopencil
04-04-2007, 05:20 PM
.

keg in kc
04-04-2007, 05:22 PM
rofl listo

The tear is classic.

trndobrd
04-04-2007, 05:39 PM
Let's see...how to spin this?

When your team is -23 in giveaway/takeaway (last in the NFL, followed by the Browns at -15) your Defense has the advantage of the thing which stops all offenses from gaining yards, the Endzone.

The Raiders 7 Forced Fumbles was last in the NFL.

The Raiders were run on more than any other team in the NFL 542 times. The Raiders allowed 134 yards per game rushing (#25 in the NFL) while the Chiefs gave up 120.5 YPG (#18).

The Raiders gave up a league low 150.5 yards per game passing. They were followed closely by Defensive powerhouse Indy with 159.3 yards per game.

Oh, I know...the purpose of the Defense is to stop the other team from scoring, right?

Chiefs Defense gave up avg 19.7 points a game
Raiders Defense gave up avg 20.8 points a game

(NFL rankings SD#7, DEN#9, KC#11, OAK#18)

LiL stumppy
04-04-2007, 05:51 PM
ha good post

crazycoffey
04-04-2007, 06:34 PM
While your at it google SB appearances and Wins.


your question was which team had the better D. Not which team had more SB appearances.

BTW, to answer your question......

Chiefs D is better

Period

OctoberFart
04-04-2007, 06:50 PM
Let's see...how to spin this?

When your team is -23 in giveaway/takeaway (last in the NFL, followed by the Browns at -15) your Defense has the advantage of the thing which stops all offenses from gaining yards, the Endzone.

The Raiders 7 Forced Fumbles was last in the NFL.

The Raiders were run on more than any other team in the NFL 542 times. The Raiders allowed 134 yards per game rushing (#25 in the NFL) while the Chiefs gave up 120.5 YPG (#18).

The Raiders gave up a league low 150.5 yards per game passing. They were followed closely by Defensive powerhouse Indy with 159.3 yards per game.

Oh, I know...the purpose of the Defense is to stop the other team from scoring, right?

Chiefs Defense gave up avg 19.7 points a game
Raiders Defense gave up avg 20.8 points a game

(NFL rankings SD#7, DEN#9, KC#11, OAK#18)

I already told you that the worst O in the history of the NFL shell fielded last year contributed to the PPG and lots of Rushing attempts. Oakland's Defense is clearly better and they were the bright spot in a dismal year.

Joie
04-04-2007, 06:53 PM
I already told you that the worst O in the history of the NFL shell fielded last year contributed to the PPG and lots of Rushing attempts. Oakland's Defense is clearly better and they were the bright spot in a dismal year.
Keep trying to make yourself feel better. Bottom line: Oakland is an inferior team. You shouldn't need to troll a Chiefs website to learn that.

keg in kc
04-04-2007, 06:54 PM
I make a motion that one of the mods transform "AutumnWind" into "OctoberFart".

crazycoffey
04-04-2007, 06:55 PM
I already told you that the worst O in the history of the NFL shell fielded last year contributed to the PPG and lots of Rushing attempts. Oakland's Defense is clearly better and they were the bright spot in a dismal year.



So, just how big of a tard are you? Daddy and Mommy were related weren't they.

crazycoffey
04-04-2007, 06:56 PM
I make a motion that one of the mods transform "AutumnWind" into "OctoberFart".


ROFL I Second

OctoberFart
04-04-2007, 06:57 PM
Keep trying to make yourself feel better. Bottom line: Oakland is an inferior team. You shouldn't need to troll a Chiefs website to learn that.

When I get out of the yard later in December I'll make sure I come in here to serve up some crow to you redneck fools.

keg in kc
04-04-2007, 06:58 PM
When I get out of the yard later in December I'll make sure I come in here to serve up some crow to you redneck fools.

When you say "yard" are you referring to your parole date, or just the exercise yard?

crazycoffey
04-04-2007, 06:58 PM
When I get out of the yard later in December I'll make sure I come in here to serve up some crow to you redneck fools.


what yard, Boss?

Joie
04-04-2007, 06:59 PM
When I get out of the yard later in December I'll make sure I come in here to serve up some crow to you redneck fools.
So how much computer time are you allowed in prison?

crazycoffey
04-04-2007, 06:59 PM
all three of us freakin funny

keg in kc
04-04-2007, 07:00 PM
All too easy.

Joie
04-04-2007, 07:01 PM
His brain must hurt trying to think of a comeback.

OctoberFart
04-04-2007, 07:02 PM
So how much computer time are you allowed in prison?
Absolutely none.

keg in kc
04-04-2007, 07:03 PM
His brain must hurt trying to think of a comeback.

Either the chowbell rang and he's being escorted to the cafeteria, or his cellmate husband caught him talking to civilians on the internet again, and he's paying his 'fine'.

CoMoChief
04-04-2007, 07:12 PM
Oakland or KC QUEEFS?

DL advantage Oakland Sapp, Burgess, Kelly, Sands are better than DUI BOY, Hali and the rest of scrub DT's.

LB's advantage Oakland. Young LB's in Morrison, Howard, Williams are some of the most underated in the league. KC is pretty good with DJ being the best and NAP hasn't been the same since he left Oak town and Edwards is a stop gap at this point in his career.

Secondary isn't even close as Oaklands young DB's have proved to be bigger playmakers playing in a tough man to man D instead of a crappy talent masking cover 2. Ty Law is one of the most overrated CB's ever and has made his name on 3 good games in his career.

Overall stats

Oakland
3 overall in league

NAME YDS YPG RUSH RUSH YPG PASS PASS YPG PTS PTS/G
Oakland 4557 284.8 2144 134.0 2413 150.8 332 20.8

Oaklands Pts allowed is amazing since they fielded the worst offense in the history of NFL last year.

KC
16 overall in league

NAME YDS YPG RUSH RUSH YPG PASS PASS YPG PTS PTS/G
Kansas City 5262 328.9 1928 120.5 3334 208.4 315 19.7

Can't wait to see how the homers here spin their arguments that KC's D is better.

Your LB's are a bunch of faqqots that can't play football.

The ONLY thing you have over us on defense are the DT's and interior rush. Thats it. That alone will make ANY defense look better than what it really is.

OctoberFart
04-04-2007, 07:16 PM
Your LB's are a bunch of faqqots that can't play football.

The ONLY thing you have over us on defense are the DT's and interior rush. Thats it. That alone will make ANY defense look better than what it really is.


LB's are the closest and could be argued either way but they are young fast and make plays. Secondary Oakland is a lot better than KC.

CoMoChief
04-04-2007, 07:49 PM
LB's are the closest and could be argued either way but they are young fast and make plays. Secondary Oakland is a lot better than KC.

That's not true at all. Fabian Washington?

trndobrd
04-04-2007, 07:51 PM
I already told you that the worst O in the history of the NFL shell fielded last year contributed to the PPG and lots of Rushing attempts. Oakland's Defense is clearly better and they were the bright spot in a dismal year.


While the Raiders defense is better than the Raiders offense, it is still the weakest defensive unit in the AFC West.

You can't lay the laughable turnover ratio entirely on the hands of the offense. Your vaunted defense was last in the league in forced fumbles(7), even for all those rushing attempts against, and next to last in the leauge for fumble recoveries (5). That's right, your team only recoved five whole fumbles all last year.

You are claiming that because the Offense turned the ball over there were more rushing attempts. The bottom line is that the Raiders couldn't stop the run. Trying to blame that on the offense is downright stupid. Is there some rule that says, if you recover a fumble you have to run the ball? No.

CoMoChief
04-04-2007, 07:56 PM
Is there some rule that says, if you recover a fumble you have to run the ball? No.

Ummmm, Herm?
:p

Gravedigger
04-04-2007, 09:51 PM
While your at it google SB appearances and Wins.

Wow you're right from 1990 Google search you got us 1-0... you proved your point. I guess thats a mulligan on our part for giving you Gannon or else you'd be relying on Tuiasosopo/Jeff George. I knew that choice would come back to haunt us.

thurman merman
04-04-2007, 09:54 PM
Here's a question for you:

Whose record is better?

That's right. People who graduated 8th grade use the word "Whose".

ROFL

DJay23
04-04-2007, 10:13 PM
Why did you pose a question in your thread title, when clearly you seem to already know the answer to that question?

Trolling 101

unothadeal
04-04-2007, 11:39 PM
Why did you pose a question in your thread title, when clearly you seem to already know the answer to that question?

Trolling 101
You as well

TinyEvel
04-04-2007, 11:44 PM
This thread rules!

I have a KISS 8-track somewhere out in the garage. I'm going to go look for it...

OctoberFart
04-05-2007, 01:49 AM
Why did you pose a question in your thread title, when clearly you seem to already know the answer to that question?

Trolling 101


Can't you come up with something better than trolling? I realize that this is a queef board but everything that isn't seen through red homer glasses is not trolling.

CoMoChief
04-05-2007, 01:53 AM
Trolling according to Wiki:

"Internet trolling involves a user making comments intended to provoke an angry response."

Coming onto a Chiefs site and posting your worthless crap is considered trolling.

penguinz
04-05-2007, 02:23 AM
This thread rules!

I have a KISS 8-track somewhere out in the garage. I'm going to go look for it...I have a friend who still has an original 8-track of the Star Wars sound track.

OctoberFart
04-05-2007, 12:25 PM
Trolling according to Wiki:

"Internet trolling involves a user making comments intended to provoke an angry response."

Coming onto a Chiefs site and posting your worthless crap is considered trolling.


What a bunch of Drama queens. Tell you the truth about something and you wine like a little girls. Whiny a$$ B@#ches!

King_Chief_Fan
04-05-2007, 12:31 PM
Oakland or KC QUEEFS?

DL advantage Oakland Sapp, Burgess, Kelly, Sands are better than DUI BOY, Hali and the rest of scrub DT's.

LB's advantage Oakland. Young LB's in Morrison, Howard, Williams are some of the most underated in the league. KC is pretty good with DJ being the best and NAP hasn't been the same since he left Oak town and Edwards is a stop gap at this point in his career.

Secondary isn't even close as Oaklands young DB's have proved to be bigger playmakers playing in a tough man to man D instead of a crappy talent masking cover 2. Ty Law is one of the most overrated CB's ever and has made his name on 3 good games in his career.

Overall stats

Oakland
3 overall in league

NAME YDS YPG RUSH RUSH YPG PASS PASS YPG PTS PTS/G
Oakland 4557 284.8 2144 134.0 2413 150.8 332 20.8


Oaklands Pts allowed is amazing since they fielded the worst offense in the history of NFL last year.

KC
16 overall in league

NAME YDS YPG RUSH RUSH YPG PASS PASS YPG PTS PTS/G
Kansas City 5262 328.9 1928 120.5 3334 208.4 315 19.7

Can't wait to see how the homers here spin their arguments that KC's D is better.
ROFLCongratulations on that fine D. You offense, special teams, coaches and owner still suck. Enjoy the basement for the 5th year in a row

crazycoffey
04-05-2007, 12:41 PM
What a bunch of Drama queens. Tell you the truth about something and you wine like a little girls. Whiny a$$ B@#ches!


Only true wisdom you imparted upon us is that you lack the wit to parlay your opinion into a perceived truth. Give up, we see what you really are, the drugs from self medicating your depression invoked from being a Raiderfan are eroding your common sense and ability to look at a topic like "which Defense is better" with any type of impunity. It has furthered your loss of respect upon our members and given rise to the negative comments toward you. This seems to be the desired effect, anyway.

|Zach|
04-05-2007, 12:43 PM
I will listen to these rants day and night if it means we win another 8 straight games against them.

I am pretty happy about the whole situation.

crazycoffey
04-05-2007, 12:49 PM
I will listen to these rants day and night if it means we win another 8 straight games against them.

I am pretty happy about the whole situation.



I just want to keep messing with him. He started it, sir.......:)

|Zach|
04-05-2007, 12:49 PM
Ha.

Der Flöprer
04-05-2007, 12:55 PM
This thread rules!

I have a KISS 8-track somewhere out in the garage. I'm going to go look for it...


Did you need to be reminded of the Raiders glory days?

Chan93lx50
04-05-2007, 01:06 PM
This must be what its like to have crabs. If you scratch it, it just keeps itching worse!

chagrin
04-05-2007, 01:19 PM
No, this just means he's about to bump another 2 yr old thread

whtgldwldr
04-06-2007, 01:23 AM
first of all...their linebackers are simply not as good as ours. They're not as good as DJ, let alone Edwards and Harris.

Second, their D-Line is WAYWAYWAY better than ours. Congrats.

Third, the secondary. Ummm...it could be argued either way and I wouldn't necessarily disagree...but Law/Surtain/Page, Pollard, or Wesley is a bit better than Asomugha/Washington/Schweigert/Huff in my opinion.

Thirdlyish, its relatively easy to keep your total yardage down when you don't have to defend an entire field. Ever. And typically, the black and silver defended about half a field per drive.

The fact that they still allowed 4557 would be quite depressing if i lived in california and had the misfortune cheering for the worst team in football.

So how's aboot you just run along home, and stop bothering us with your dumbass statistics that have no relevancy about the better team here. As my predecessors said...look at the records, one of us made the playoffs...the other one emerged victorious in the Brady Quinn/Jamarcus Russell sweepstakes. Congratu-****ing-lations.

Suck it,

I'm out