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Kerberos
04-26-2007, 05:08 PM
This is SUCH a shame. Hope Goodell kicks Vick out for a season or better.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2850545

SMITHFIELD, Va. -- Police conducting a drug investigation raided a Virginia house owned by Atlanta Falcons quarterback Michael Vick and found dozens of dogs, some injured and emaciated, as well as items associated with dog fighting, authorities said.

State Police Sgt. D.S. Carr said Vick's relative, Davon Boddie, 26, lives in the house. Vick owns the property, but does not live there and was not present when a search warrant was executed in a drug investigation Wednesday night, Carr said.

Boddie was arrested outside a nightclub by Hampton police April 20 on charges of distribution of marijuana and possession with intent to distribute. The search warrant was executed by a multijurisidictional task force in a narcotics probe, Carr said.

"When they had a chance to go to the site, they discovered animal neglect," Surry County Administrator Tyrone Franklin told WAVY-TV in Portsmouth.

More than 60 dogs were found in three buildings. Some appeared malnourished, scarred and injured, officials said.

Wayne Pacelle, president and CEO of the Humane Society of the United States, issued the following statement: "The Humane Society of the United States has heard troubling reports for some time that Michael Vick has been involved in organized dog fighting, and we fear that this investigation may validate that very disturbing allegation."

"We urge law enforcement to aggressively investigate this matter, and we further believe that anyone who harbors dogs for the purpose of fighting, deserves to be fully prosecuted for their crimes,'' Pacelle said. "Dog fighting is a barbaric activity that causes immense animal suffering and fosters violence in our communities. Our nation should have a zero tolerance policy for any form of staged animal fighting."

The Humane Society said dog fighting is illegal nationwide and a felony in 48 states, including both Virginia and Georgia.

Vick refused comment Thursday through a Falcons spokesman, according to The Atlanta Journal-Constitution.

Joel Segal, the quarterback's agent, and Larry Woodward, a Virginia attorney who has worked with both Vick and his younger brother, Marcus, didn't immediately return telephone messages from The Associated Press seeking comment.

The Surry County Sheriff's Office is handling the investigation of the dogs' treatment. The office said the deputy in charge of the investigation was at the scene and unavailable for comment Thursday.

The animal rights group PETA has asked Falcons owner Arthur Blank to suspend Vick pending the investigation and "to kick him off the team if it is found that dogs on Vick's property were neglected or used for fighting."

In a letter to Blank, People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals said it was the second time it was writing to the owner about one of his players and allegations of cruelty to animals. On Feb. 23, the organization wrote to him about defensive tackle Jonathan Babineaux's felony charges in Georgia stemming from the fatal beating of a dog.

Dog fighting is illegal nationwide and is a felony in 48 states, including Virginia, according to the Humane Society of the United States.

The probe at Vick's property is the latest in a serious of embarrassing incidents for the Atlanta quarterback.

He was named in a sordid lawsuit that accused him of knowingly infecting a woman with a sexually transmitted disease and using the alias "Ron Mexico" while seeking treatment. The case was settled out of court.

Last season, Vick flashed an obscene hand gesture to heckling Atlanta fans as he walked off the field following a dismal loss to New Orleans. He was fined $10,000 by the NFL and donated another $10,000 to charity.

In January, security officers at Miami International Airport seized a water bottle from Vick that they said smelled of marijuana and had a hidden compartment. Authorities later said there were no drugs in the bottle, and Vick explained that he used the secret compartment to carry jewelry.

Just this week, Vick came under more criticism when he failed to show for a lobbying appearance on Capitol Hill in support of increased funding for after-school programs. He missed a connecting flight in Atlanta and didn't turn up for a later flight.

Vick and two other former Virginia Tech stars -- Falcons cornerback DeAngelo Hall and former Buffalo Bills defensive end Bruce Smith -- are scheduled to join Hokies football coach Frank Beamer and NFL commissioner Roger Goodell in a predraft ceremony in New York on Saturday to honor the victims of the recent shooting at the Blacksburg school.

Crashride
04-26-2007, 05:11 PM
LOL :clap:

Good job DUMBASS your commiting career suicide slowly but surely :shake:

L.A. Chieffan
04-26-2007, 05:12 PM
Has the whole world gone crazy?

bdeg
04-26-2007, 05:13 PM
If Vick gets suspended Atlanta is going to flounder without Schaub.

Just noticed Vick may not have been involved. Wonder if the commish will act.

Simplex3
04-26-2007, 05:25 PM
Just noticed Vick may not have been involved. Wonder if the commish will act.
Oh, yeah. Lots of people own multi-million dollar homes that they let a relative live in, then that guy put 60 dogs in the house, but you never figure it out.

I'm going to call bulls**t on that.

This relative was running Vick's dog-fighting venture.

58-4ever
04-26-2007, 05:29 PM
Vick doesn't have a clue. He is an idiot of monumental proportions.

dr00d
04-26-2007, 05:34 PM
Vick doesn't have a clue. He is an idiot of monumental proportions.

You are just picking this up now?

chagrin
04-26-2007, 05:36 PM
Oh, yeah. Lots of people own multi-million dollar homes that they let a relative live in, then that guy put 60 dogs in the house, but you never figure it out.

I'm going to call bulls**t on that.

This relative was running Vick's dog-fighting venture.


I have to agree, look people whether you will admit it or not, a friggin millionaire doesn't set a guy up in that house without knowing who he is and what he's there to protect. My guess is, Michael's boyz were getting all banged up on weed and blow and eventually stopped giving a shit about the animals. I think Mike knew about the Dog fighting but maybe didn't know about the neglect, etc.

Either way I would like to see a harsh penalty to those that were left to care for the dogs. If they can prove Mike knew what was going on, then suspend his ass, but you can't take him out of the NFL on suspicion only.

Simplex3
04-26-2007, 05:41 PM
I think Mike knew about the Dog fighting but maybe didn't know about the neglect, etc.
That's part of keeping them mean, I believe.

Easy 6
04-26-2007, 05:47 PM
Oh c'mon guys, dog fighting is HUGE in Japan.

Those animals LOVE to be forced to fight, especially the ones that get their muzzles taped up so other dogs can tee off on'em for "training".

This is as wholesome as apple pie folks, just get over it already...

Oh yeah, vick is a turd with fancy shoes.

MichaelH
04-26-2007, 06:03 PM
He knows nothing but it's his property. What's the saying about birds of a feather?

Better yet was Dick managed to scrounge up a whole $10,000 for his alma mater during that terrible crisis. He makes more than that fighting those dogs.

Frazod
04-26-2007, 06:11 PM
Good God, have you people leaped to enough conclusions?

"Property" does not necessarily equal "million dollar home." For all we know the property in question could be a farm that Vick owns as an investment property. He could be letting some idiot cousin stay in the house as a favor and has no idea what he does; he may not have been there for months, if ever.

Or he could be an evil, dog abusing dick. But the point is, we don't know from the LIMITED information given in this story.

Innocent until proven guilty, remember?

And this article is CLEARLY written to envoke a strong emotional response. Apparently enough time has passed since the VT kids got whacked that the press is looking for a new flavor of the week. And who gives a f#ck what some PETA moron thinks about anything? EVER?

Drop the torches and pitchforks and step away.

Short Leash Hootie
04-26-2007, 06:17 PM
Good God, have you people leaped to enough conclusions?

"Property" does not necessarily equal "million dollar home." For all we know the property in question could be a farm that Vick owns as an investment property. He could be letting some idiot cousin stay in the house as a favor and has no idea what he does; he may not have been there for months, if ever.

Or he could be an evil, dog abusing dick. But the point is, we don't know from the LIMITED information given in this story.

Innocent until proven guilty, remember?

And this article is CLEARLY written to envoke a strong emotional response. Apparently enough time has passed since the VT kids got whacked that the press is looking for a new flavor of the week. And who gives a f#ck what some PETA moron thinks about anything? EVER?

Drop the torches and pitchforks and step away.
Exxxxxxxxactly.

I'm glad someone had a little sense in this thread.

Fish
04-26-2007, 06:25 PM
I heard they were nappy headed dogs too......

Easy 6
04-26-2007, 06:27 PM
Good God, have you people leaped to enough conclusions?

"Property" does not necessarily equal "million dollar home." For all we know the property in question could be a farm that Vick owns as an investment property. He could be letting some idiot cousin stay in the house as a favor and has no idea what he does; he may not have been there for months, if ever.

Or he could be an evil, dog abusing dick. But the point is, we don't know from the LIMITED information given in this story.

Innocent until proven guilty, remember?

And this article is CLEARLY written to envoke a strong emotional response. Apparently enough time has passed since the VT kids got whacked that the press is looking for a new flavor of the week. And who gives a f#ck what some PETA moron thinks about anything? EVER?

Drop the torches and pitchforks and step away.

You may well be right Frazod, this was just a good opportunity for me to take a slap at dog fighting.

But even without this, vick is still a turd with shoes.

Frazod
04-26-2007, 06:28 PM
Exxxxxxxxactly.

I'm glad someone had a little sense in this thread.

And I'm no Vick fan by any stretch. IMO, he's the most overrated QB in football. I base that on watching him play. I don't, however, know if he abuses animals based on reading that bent article.

Simplex3
04-26-2007, 06:30 PM
Or he could be an evil, dog abusing dick. But the point is, we don't know from the LIMITED information given in this story.

Innocent until proven guilty, remember?
If this was anyone but Ron Mexico I might buy it.

GoHuge
04-26-2007, 06:33 PM
He's been such a POS that the "innocent until proven guilty" isn't going to fly as far as public opinion goes. Court of law perhaps, but not public opinion.

El Jefe
04-26-2007, 06:36 PM
"But even without this, vick is still a turd with shoes." ROFL ROFL ROFL

Smed1065
04-26-2007, 06:48 PM
Good thing they had time to get rid of what the dogs were guarding.

Frazod
04-26-2007, 06:48 PM
Here's a link to a local news story with video:

http://www.wvec.com/news/topstories/stories/wvec_local_042607_vick_house_raid.d16737a.html

The house is very large, but clearly out in the country somewhere. All the dogs were pit bulls - all will now likely be put down. A fighting pit was discovered on the premises.

Still, no evidence that Vick knew what was going on. But clearly there was a serious dog fighting operation going on here.

:shake:

MOhillbilly
04-26-2007, 06:57 PM
someones going down. a turntable,jenny & mill are enough for the authorties to charge you w/ intent.
in the eyes of the law thats the same as.

MOhillbilly
04-26-2007, 07:02 PM
id like to see what the dogs look like. And if they are not started dogs theres no reason to put them down gamebred or not.

eazyb81
04-26-2007, 07:13 PM
Good God, have you people leaped to enough conclusions?

"Property" does not necessarily equal "million dollar home." For all we know the property in question could be a farm that Vick owns as an investment property. He could be letting some idiot cousin stay in the house as a favor and has no idea what he does; he may not have been there for months, if ever.

Or he could be an evil, dog abusing dick. But the point is, we don't know from the LIMITED information given in this story.

Innocent until proven guilty, remember?


The problem with that is that the NFL doesn't need a conviction to suspend a player. PacMan was suspended for a year without being convicted of any felonies.

Vick is an embarrassment to the league and Goodell needs to not show him any sympathy just because he is a big name. Getting caught with weed at the airport, the Ron Mexico/herpes ordeal, and now being involved in dog-fighting ring? It would be a joke if he didn't get suspended for at least a few games.

Bwana
04-26-2007, 07:15 PM
Ron Mexico at it again, what a tool.

NewChief
04-26-2007, 07:18 PM
id like to see what the dogs look like. And if they are not started dogs theres no reason to put them down gamebred or not.

Out of curiosity, why are dogs in these news stories always suffering from malnutrition? Is it just the media sensationalizing things? Is it because there's a part of the training that involves underfeeding them? Or is it just because there are douchebags with no clue out there who don't know how to take care of their animals "properly"?

stlchiefs
04-26-2007, 07:25 PM
The problem with that is that the NFL doesn't need a conviction to suspend a player. PacMan was suspended for a year without being convicted of any felonies.

Vick is an embarrassment to the league and Goodell needs to not show him any sympathy just because he is a big name. Getting caught with weed at the airport, the Ron Mexico/herpes ordeal, and now being involved in dog-fighting ring? It would be a joke if he didn't get suspended for at least a few games.


Not that I like the guy at all, but for clarification, they never did find any weed in the hidden compartment of the water bottle, nor did any tests on it come back positive. Now whether there were other factors involved in these findings, we'll leave that to the conspiracy theorists.

Simplex3
04-26-2007, 07:26 PM
Out of curiosity, why are dogs in these news stories always suffering from malnutrition? Is it just the media sensationalizing things? Is it because there's a part of the training that involves underfeeding them? Or is it just because there are douchebags with no clue out there who don't know how to take care of their animals "properly"?
A hungry animal is a violent animal.

Brock
04-26-2007, 07:26 PM
Anybody surprised?

MOhillbilly
04-26-2007, 07:29 PM
Out of curiosity, why are dogs in these news stories always suffering from malnutrition? Is it just the media sensationalizing things? Is it because there's a part of the training that involves underfeeding them? Or is it just because there are douchebags with no clue out there who don't know how to take care of their animals "properly"?

dogfighters keep them within a few pounds of pit weight. doesnt mean theyre in anyform of malnutrition.
the rest is all of the above. media hype and idiots.

MOhillbilly
04-26-2007, 07:30 PM
A hungry animal is a violent animal.

spoken like someone who doesnt know wtf theyre talking about.

sorry thats just not true. nor the reasons for keeping a dog close to 'pit' weight.

Easy 6
04-26-2007, 07:33 PM
dogfighters keep them within a few pounds of pit weight. doesnt mean theyre in anyform of malnutrition.
the rest is all of the above. media hype and idiots.

IMO, people who fight dogs are the idiots here, not those who despise it.

MOhillbilly
04-26-2007, 07:38 PM
IMO, people who fight dogs are the idiots here, not those who despise it.

while i dont agree completely i do agree to a point for reasons youll never understand.

NewChief
04-26-2007, 07:39 PM
A hungry animal is a violent animal.

Hungry...maybe. But I'd also think that a hungry to the point of malnourished animal would be an animal that has little strength or stamina. I mean, it would be like someone starving themselves before they fight in MMA. It's stupid. You'd want your animal healthy and in good condition, not malnourished.

As for game bred pits, I would think that they have plenty of fight in them without having to resort to starving them to get more fire out of them.

Easy 6
04-26-2007, 07:42 PM
while i dont agree completely i do agree to a point for reasons youll never understand.

Dont presume to know what i know, try me...why wouldnt i understand???

I've been around a couple of dog fighters, one of'em in Tennessee that would make you look like a city slicker.

Enlighten me...

ChiefFan31
04-26-2007, 07:43 PM
Anybody surprised?

Well, more blown away by his dumbassery.

Kerberos
04-26-2007, 08:54 PM
Good God, have you people leaped to enough conclusions?

"Property" does not necessarily equal "million dollar home." For all we know the property in question could be a farm that Vick owns as an investment property. He could be letting some idiot cousin stay in the house as a favor and has no idea what he does; he may not have been there for months, if ever.

Or he could be an evil, dog abusing dick. But the point is, we don't know from the LIMITED information given in this story.

Innocent until proven guilty, remember?

And this article is CLEARLY written to envoke a strong emotional response. Apparently enough time has passed since the VT kids got whacked that the press is looking for a new flavor of the week. And who gives a f#ck what some PETA moron thinks about anything? EVER?

Drop the torches and pitchforks and step away.


Wayne Pacelle, president and CEO of the Humane Society of the United States, issued the following statement: "The Humane Society of the United States has heard troubling reports for some time that Michael Vick has been involved in organized dog fighting, and we fear that this investigation may validate that very disturbing allegation."


If there is any truth or merritt to this statement then Ron Mexico is F***ed.

boogblaster
04-26-2007, 09:55 PM
All fighting dogs if trained right, are at their peak performance weight..some fight at a lower weight better..some fight better with more muscle tone..if they look skinny that doesn't mean they're not being fed right..you pit a dog by his weight, the dog you fight has to weigh the same ....enlightment you'll ....

BWillie
04-26-2007, 10:26 PM
Dude, why are you people so worried about freaking malnourished dogs? You eat steaks all day and chicken who are confined in quarters rolling around in their own shit and you are complaining to a few dogs. Who cares, they are animals, what does it matter. If you eat any type of meat, you should not complain. You just think and feel bad for domesticated animals more than other animals because you've grown emotionally attached to them. And for PETA, man these people are complete assclowns.

I think Mike Vick has gotten a bad wrap really. It sounds like he just bought a house for one of his boys to help him out financially. It's not his problem what he does with it. It's similar to when you send your daughter off to college, and she gangbangs the football team in her apartment that you paid for while snorting coke. What can ya do?

BTW, do they have organized dog fights around here? I'd love to go to one, bet on a dog. That sounds fun. It's kind of funny, you can't fight dogs, but it's ok for UFC to go on? I'd rather watch the dogs fight than De La Hoya vs Mayweather or any other 145 pound dude swing at each other.

Halfcan
04-26-2007, 10:37 PM
Boy that Ron Mexico sure is a piece of work. Wait til they find the illegal sweatshops and the kiddie porn factory.

ClevelandBronco
04-26-2007, 10:56 PM
Good God, have you people leaped to enough conclusions?

"Property" does not necessarily equal "million dollar home." For all we know the property in question could be a farm that Vick owns as an investment property. He could be letting some idiot cousin stay in the house as a favor and has no idea what he does; he may not have been there for months, if ever.

Or he could be an evil, dog abusing dick. But the point is, we don't know from the LIMITED information given in this story.

Innocent until proven guilty, remember?

And this article is CLEARLY written to envoke a strong emotional response. Apparently enough time has passed since the VT kids got whacked that the press is looking for a new flavor of the week. And who gives a f#ck what some PETA moron thinks about anything? EVER?

Drop the torches and pitchforks and step away.

Bravo. Don't mistake that I have any respect for Vick other than the unfortunate fact that he is a human being, but bravo.

Thig Lyfe
04-26-2007, 10:58 PM
http://www.wikihow.com/images/d/d6/PETAstarvingdog.jpg

"That ain't in the playbook, but it should be"

ClevelandBronco
04-26-2007, 10:58 PM
He's been such a POS that the "innocent until proven guilty" isn't going to fly as far as public opinion goes. Court of law perhaps, but not public opinion.

And that's true, too.

ClevelandBronco
04-26-2007, 11:06 PM
why wouldnt i understand???

I'm betting that you wouldn't understand because MO has no intention of posting his reasons.

Just a guess.

stlchiefs
04-26-2007, 11:32 PM
It sounds like he just bought a house for one of his boys to help him out financially. It's not his problem what he does with it.

I'm sure you don't agree, but according to the law, it is Vick's problem what his cousin does on the premises of the house since Vick OWNS the property.

Virginia Statute:
3.1-796.124. Dogfighting; penalty

A. No person shall knowingly do any of the following:

1. Promote, engage in, or be employed in the fighting of dogs for amusement, sport or gain;

2. Wager money or anything of value on the result of such fighting;

3. Receive money or anything of value for the admission of another person to a place for dogfighting;

4. Possess, own, train, transport, or sell any dog with the intent that such dog engage in an exhibition of fighting with another dog; or

5. Permit any act described in subdivisions 1 through 4 of this subsection on any premises under his charge or control, or aid or abet any such act.

ClevelandBronco
04-26-2007, 11:37 PM
I'm sure you don't agree, but according to the law, it is Vick's problem what his cousin does on the premises of the house since Vick OWNS the property.

Virginia Statute:
3.1-796.124. Dogfighting; penalty

A. No person shall knowingly do any of the following:

1. Promote, engage in, or be employed in the fighting of dogs for amusement, sport or gain;

2. Wager money or anything of value on the result of such fighting;

3. Receive money or anything of value for the admission of another person to a place for dogfighting;

4. Possess, own, train, transport, or sell any dog with the intent that such dog engage in an exhibition of fighting with another dog; or

5. Permit any act described in subdivisions 1 through 4 of this subsection on any premises under his charge or control, or aid or abet any such act.

But then they have to prove that Vick permitted it (or aided or abetted it), not just that it happened.

I have a small number of investment properties. Any number of things could be happening on property I own without my permission and aid.

Chiefs Pantalones
04-26-2007, 11:39 PM
Vick should be shot. The guy is a thug either way.

stlchiefs
04-27-2007, 12:11 AM
But then they have to prove that Vick permitted it (or aided or abetted it), not just that it happened.

I have a small number of investment properties. Any number of things could be happening on property I own without my permission and aid.

That's not necessarily true, but it depends on the jurisdiction. Landlords can be held liable for crimes committed by their tenants on the premises for a few reasons. Here, nuisance would seem to be a possible action. Who knows what evidence and if they plan on pursuing it at this time. If I was Vick I'd be more worried about Goodell than the authorities right now.

Phobia
04-27-2007, 12:47 AM
Why are they targetting a man who simply likes sporting dogs? They'll probably pin a felony on him. I'm surprised this was in Virginia and not California. /big daddy

ClevelandBronco
04-27-2007, 01:02 AM
...If I was Vick I'd be more worried about Goodell than the authorities right now.

True stuff.

NewChief
04-27-2007, 05:27 AM
Why are they targetting a man who simply likes sporting dogs? They'll probably pin a felony on him. I'm surprised this was in Virginia and not California. /big daddy

I wonder how BD is doing? I'll be curious to see how having a child affects him. I know it definitely mellowed me on quite a few of my more extreme views, or at least my child replaced them as the thing that I really cared about. Those political views and ideals just weren't as important any longer.

Kerberos
04-27-2007, 06:01 AM
True stuff.

Why? Goodell won't do much unless he is convicted. He might get something just for being in the middle of it if not convicted. But a conviction will get him 1/2 a year or whole year suspension for this kind of crime AS WELL IT SHOULD.

Personally I would fear Goodell and the league IF I couldn't lawyer my way out of a Felony.

We'll see where this ends up?

Extra Point
04-27-2007, 06:40 AM
Ron Mexico won't be in the HOF.

"I only bet on my dogs!"

Simplex3
04-27-2007, 07:36 AM
Dude, why are you people so worried about freaking malnourished dogs? You eat steaks all day and chicken who are confined in quarters rolling around in their own shit and you are complaining to a few dogs. Who cares, they are animals, what does it matter. If you eat any type of meat, you should not complain. You just think and feel bad for domesticated animals more than other animals because you've grown emotionally attached to them. And for PETA, man these people are complete assclowns.

I think Mike Vick has gotten a bad wrap really. It sounds like he just bought a house for one of his boys to help him out financially. It's not his problem what he does with it. It's similar to when you send your daughter off to college, and she gangbangs the football team in her apartment that you paid for while snorting coke. What can ya do?

BTW, do they have organized dog fights around here? I'd love to go to one, bet on a dog. That sounds fun. It's kind of funny, you can't fight dogs, but it's ok for UFC to go on? I'd rather watch the dogs fight than De La Hoya vs Mayweather or any other 145 pound dude swing at each other.
Wow. So eloquent and well thought out.

Simplex3
04-27-2007, 07:40 AM
Why? Goodell won't do much unless he is convicted. He might get something just for being in the middle of it if not convicted. But a conviction will get him 1/2 a year or whole year suspension for this kind of crime AS WELL IT SHOULD.

Personally I would fear Goodell and the league IF I couldn't lawyer my way out of a Felony.

We'll see where this ends up?
Ask Pac(kin') Man how that worked out for him.

jspchief
04-27-2007, 07:50 AM
Odd that Marcus Vick turned out the way he did with such a great older brother for a role model.

I guess what they say is true... "the scab doesn't fall far from the herp"

Kerberos
04-27-2007, 07:51 AM
Ask Pac(kin') Man how that worked out for him.

I see apples and oranges here.

Pacin man was in the middle of a bar brawl where someone got SHOT w/other law problems to boot.

Vick owns some property that was raided. If he can legally get out of trouble of resonable doubt that he knew NOTHING of what was going on I think it limits the league on what they can do.

BUT I really don't think he is going to get out of this and is going to get fugged by Mr. Goodell and it isn't going to be pretty. That part I agree with.

Just IMO

Dave Lane
04-27-2007, 08:52 AM
Why are they targetting a man who simply likes sporting dogs? They'll probably pin a felony on him. I'm surprised this was in Virginia and not California. /big daddy


LMAO Yup that about sums it up!. BD will be rolling in shortly with how cool it would be to have 60 pits on his property. :)

Dave

Easy 6
04-27-2007, 05:48 PM
Vick should be shot. The guy is a thug either way.

Its surprising to me, when he first came out i thought "Now this guy is classy & has his shit together"...i'm still not sure i would classify him as a thug though...just an idiot.

If he's connected to this, that changes the equation.

Incidentally, the other dog fighter guy i knew was in Kansas City, went to a party at his house with my uncle but got locked outside accidentally when they made a "run", with his 5 raw meat & gunpowder fed rots & pits.

They were chained to where they could get within 1 foot of the door & outside of military "map of the earth" flights i've never been more scared, mean, mean, ugly dogs & of course Jason the owner was a Class A dirtbag & druggie. SOL dogfight fans...they didnt get me.

Dogfighting is an ugly, dirty business PERIOD.

bogie
04-27-2007, 06:03 PM
Its surprising to me, when he first came out i thought "Now this guy is classy & has his shit together"...i'm still not sure i would classify him as a thug though...just an idiot.

If he's connected to this, that changes the equation.

Incidentally, the other dog fighter guy i knew was in Kansas City, went to a party at his house with my uncle but got locked outside accidentally when they made a "run", with his 5 raw meat & gunpowder fed rots & pits.

They were chained to where they could get within 1 foot of the door & outside of military "map of the earth" flights i've never been more scared, mean, mean, ugly dogs & of course Jason the owner was a Class A dirtbag & druggie. SOL dogfight fans...they didnt get me.

Dogfighting is an ugly, dirty business PERIOD.

I've never seen an organized dog fight, but IMO I agree, Dogfighting is an ugly, dirty business PERIOD.

convict1983
04-27-2007, 06:07 PM
I hope someone lays Vick out this season. He is a POS and a disgusting human being.

I hope he either dies of AIDS from having unprotective sex or one of his starving pitbulls goes for his jugular.

Kclee
04-27-2007, 06:21 PM
Good God, have you people leaped to enough conclusions?

"Property" does not necessarily equal "million dollar home." For all we know the property in question could be a farm that Vick owns as an investment property. He could be letting some idiot cousin stay in the house as a favor and has no idea what he does; he may not have been there for months, if ever.



Well there was this little part in the article...


Wayne Pacelle, president and CEO of the Humane Society of the United States, issued the following statement: "The Humane Society of the United States has heard troubling reports for some time that Michael Vick has been involved in organized dog fighting, and we fear that this investigation may validate that very disturbing allegation."


just saying....

jjjayb
04-27-2007, 08:43 PM
It's similar to when you send your daughter off to college, and she gangbangs the football team in her apartment that you paid for while snorting coke. What can ya do?


That was YOUR daughter?!? Dude, I'm so sorry. If I'd have known that was Your daughter I wouldn't have let my dog **** her too. oops.