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Count Alex's Wins
04-27-2007, 02:39 PM
By Mark Maske
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, April 27, 2007; Page E01

NEW YORK, April 27 -- In a stunning last-minute twist, the Oakland Raiders agreed to a contract with Brady Quinn and announced they will use the top pick in tomorrows NFL draft on the Notre Damn quarterback instead of on LSU quarterback Jamarcus Russell.

:banghead: :cuss:

penguinz
04-27-2007, 02:40 PM
The raiders continue their ineptness.

Fire Me Boy!
04-27-2007, 02:40 PM
Wow... didn't see that one coming.

Count Alex's Wins
04-27-2007, 02:41 PM
If you're keeping score at home, I predicted this in March.... :p

http://www.realfootball365.com/nfl/articles/2007/03/mock_draft_which_qb_goes_no_1.html

TrickyNicky
04-27-2007, 02:42 PM
"Mr. Quinn, I'd like you to meet the members of the AFC West defenses. They'll be raping you 6 times this year..."

Maybe he can break Carr's record.

Pitt Gorilla
04-27-2007, 02:43 PM
Why?

Count Alex's Wins
04-27-2007, 02:43 PM
Quinn's pretty good. I don't like this one damn bit.

Donger
04-27-2007, 02:43 PM
Can they do this before the draft begins?

Delano
04-27-2007, 02:44 PM
There is a NFL Draft Special on ESPN right now. Clayton or one of the other heads said this was bogus.

Rooster
04-27-2007, 02:44 PM
Can they do this before the draft begins?

That is what I was wondering. I have never heard of this before.

Count Alex's Wins
04-27-2007, 02:44 PM
Can they do this before the draft begins?

Yeah, it happens every year if memory serves, usually.

TrickyNicky
04-27-2007, 02:45 PM
Quinn is good, but the Raiders are oh-so bad bad bad.

Fire Me Boy!
04-27-2007, 02:45 PM
Can they do this before the draft begins?
Yeah, used to happen all the time.

ChiefsCountry
04-27-2007, 02:45 PM
Every #1 pick is signed before the draft or at least reach an agreement.

tk13
04-27-2007, 02:45 PM
Where's a link to this information?

Donger
04-27-2007, 02:46 PM
But only the team with the first pick?

tk13
04-27-2007, 02:46 PM
Remember last year, the Texans took Mario Williams over Bush because they agreed to a contract with him first.

Mr. Laz
04-27-2007, 02:46 PM
confirmation?

Fire Me Boy!
04-27-2007, 02:47 PM
Quinn is good, but the Raiders are oh-so bad bad bad.
The Raider defense is pretty decent. Their offense is abysmal, but it mostly has to do with crappy QB play and a horrid OC(s).

Garcia Bronco
04-27-2007, 02:47 PM
I knew it and booo

Count Alex's Wins
04-27-2007, 02:47 PM
But only the team with the first pick?

Yeah.

rad
04-27-2007, 02:47 PM
That is what I was wondering. I have never heard of this before.
Mario Williams signed with Houston before the draft last year.

Delano
04-27-2007, 02:47 PM
Quinn is good, but the Raiders are oh-so bad bad bad.

Brady would have serious troubles playing with the rest of the Raiders offense. I still don't think this is a legit story.

Chiefs Pantalones
04-27-2007, 02:48 PM
I think Quinn is more NFL ready than Russell. The only real stand out game Russell had was the Bowl game. He reminds me of Leaf in that he has all the tools but I don't think he'll put it all together mentally in the NFL.

We will see for sure though.

eazyb81
04-27-2007, 02:48 PM
I'm not buying this.

DMAC
04-27-2007, 02:48 PM
The Raider defense is pretty decent. Their offense is abysmal, but it mostly has to do with crappy QB play and a horrid OC(s).They have the WORST O-Line in NFL history...that could be more of a reason.

chop
04-27-2007, 02:50 PM
I'll believe it when it is reported by a major sports news organization.

DMAC
04-27-2007, 02:50 PM
I'm not buying this.Me neither, doesn't seem like Al Davis at all.

siberian khatru
04-27-2007, 02:50 PM
... the f*ck???

Fire Me Boy!
04-27-2007, 02:50 PM
They have the WORST O-Line in NFL history...that could be more of a reason.
True... didn't think of that. But you're absolutely right.

Delano
04-27-2007, 02:51 PM
I think Quinn is more NFL ready than Russell. The only real stand out game Russell had was the Bowl game. He reminds me of Leaf in that he has all the tools but I don't think he'll put it all together mentally in the NFL.

We will see for sure though.

Did you watch Quinn in that same bowl game?

Mile High Mania
04-27-2007, 02:51 PM
There's no news of this anywhere else...

noa
04-27-2007, 02:51 PM
Neither NFL Network nor ESPN is running anything on this story. You'd think they'd be all over it. Also, I went to the Washington Post's sports page and couldn't find anything on it. If someone finds a link, please post it.

penguinz
04-27-2007, 02:51 PM
On Kffl.com

Raiders | Deal with Cleveland a possibility?
Fri, 27 Apr 2007 12:05:48 -0700

ESPN's Ed Werder reports there is a chance the Oakland Raiders work out a trade with the Cleveland Browns during the first round of the NFL Draft. There is speculation the Browns could send WR Braylon Edwards to the Raiders in addition to the No. 3 pick overall for the first-overall selection.

the Talking Can
04-27-2007, 02:53 PM
wow

draft gets even more interesting

still think Leinert is better

OnTheWarpath58
04-27-2007, 02:55 PM
Quinn's pretty good. I don't like this one damn bit.

No shit. Assuming this story isn't BS.

People can say he sucked against good competition, but in those games, the ND defense gave up an average of 37 points.

He was playing from behind more often than not in those games, and still managed a respectable 17 TD v. 12 INT's.

He may struggle for a year or so until they can get him an OL, but the kid is gonna be a star, and he's by far the smartest guy in the draft.

I hope for his sake, and for ours, this report is BS.

vailpass
04-27-2007, 02:55 PM
Oakland has a framework contract in place with Quinn, Russel, and A. Peterson. Standard procedure, means nothing. The number 1 overall pick is the only player allowed to agree to terms before hand.

Gravedigger
04-27-2007, 02:56 PM
This helps the green trade out a bit unless Russell slides maybe they'll get their shit straight =P

Pestilence
04-27-2007, 02:57 PM
POSTED 3:13 p.m. EDT, April 27, 2007

RUMORS FLY OF QUINN TO RAIDERS

There are rumors right now in media circles that the Raiders are closing in on a deal with (drum roll, please) Notre Dame quarterback Brady Quinn, who would then be named the No. 1 overall pick in the draft.

Adam Schefter of NFL Network tipped us off to the rumor -- however, Schefter thinks that the rumor is not true. Mark Maske of the Washington Post acknowledges the rumor in a Friday afternoon chat, but he says he's not reporting that the deal is done.

We heard earlier in the week that the Raiders had made an initial offer to Quinn. We have since heard that, while hard numbers were not presented to Quinn's agent, Tom Condon, there was enough discussion about parameters and terms to give him a sufficient idea as to the ballpark amount of the deal.


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tk13
04-27-2007, 02:57 PM
I do think the fact that LSU has a good defense and Notre Dame's defense is total crap was kind of overlooked in that game.... but with Russell's tools I can't believe Al Davis would pass him up.

Garcia Bronco
04-27-2007, 02:58 PM
Here is another spin on it

KFF lis also saying this:
Raiders | Deal with Cleveland a possibility?
Fri, 27 Apr 2007 12:05:48 -0700

ESPN's Ed Werder reports there is a chance the Oakland Raiders work out a trade with the Cleveland Browns during the first round of the NFL Draft. There is speculation the Browns could send WR Braylon Edwards to the Raiders in addition to the No. 3 pick overall for the first-overall selection

and

PFT:
RUMORS FLY OF QUINN TO RAIDERS

There are rumors right now in media circles that the Raiders are closing in on a deal with (drum roll, please) Notre Dame quarterback Brady Quinn, who would then be named the No. 1 overall pick in the draft.

Adam Schefter of NFL Network tipped us off to the rumor. Mark Maske of the Washington Post acknowledges the rumor in a Friday afternoon chat, but he says he's not reporting that the deal is done.

We heard earlier in the week that the Raiders had made an initial offer to Quinn. We have since heard that, while hard numbers were not presented to Quinn's agent, Tom Condon, there was enough discussion about parameters and terms to give him a sufficient idea as to the ballpark amount of the deal.

Pestilence
04-27-2007, 02:59 PM
Quinn.....why!??!?!? Well...now I have to hate Quinn instead of rooting for him.

Garcia Bronco
04-27-2007, 02:59 PM
I do think the fact that LSU has a good defense and Notre Dame's defense is total crap was kind of overlooked in that game.... but with Russell's tools I can't believe Al Davis would pass him up.

Because Russell is a complete Project.

eazyb81
04-27-2007, 03:00 PM
I call total BS on the Browns giving up #3 AND Braylon Edwards for #1.

Romeo Crennel is on the hot seat this year, he needs to win asap and it's not going to help matters if they give up their #1 wideout.

Sounds like the Raiders PR machine is in full effect.

the Talking Can
04-27-2007, 03:00 PM
if they really want Quinn they should shut up and trade down for him...

Chiefnj
04-27-2007, 03:01 PM
I can't imagine Davis passing up either Russell or Johnson. Al likes players that fit the mold of the position. Russell has the body size and arm strength that Al goes crazy for.

eazyb81
04-27-2007, 03:01 PM
I do think the fact that LSU has a good defense and Notre Dame's defense is total crap was kind of overlooked in that game.... but with Russell's tools I can't believe Al Davis would pass him up.

Someone made a good point about what would happen if Quinn and Russell switched teams last year. Quinn would have Bowe and Davis as his wideouts and an awesome defense to help him, while Russell would have nothing.

Chiefs Pantalones
04-27-2007, 03:02 PM
Did you watch Quinn in that same bowl game?

Yes. Quinn has had more good games than bad, and no one hardly heard of Russell before that game.

Players like Ryan Sims and Achilles(sp) Smith (and many more) did nothing until their senior years, well, now look at both of them.

ChiefsCountry
04-27-2007, 03:04 PM
Browns GM has a man crush on JaMarcus Russell.

el borracho
04-27-2007, 03:05 PM
Man, April is full of shit- first we endure April Fool's Day and then the freaking draft rumors. Not to mention the gayest national holiday of all (Easter).

carlos3652
04-27-2007, 03:07 PM
Someone put a RUMOR: on the suject line... this is not a done deal yet, as it was not confirmed...

Chiefnj
04-27-2007, 03:09 PM
Someone made a good point about what would happen if Quinn and Russell switched teams last year. Quinn would have Bowe and Davis as his wideouts and an awesome defense to help him, while Russell would have nothing.

Quinn had Samirdzijsanjaya pulling in lots of poorly thrown toss up balls for TDs.

Skip Towne
04-27-2007, 03:13 PM
I'll bet Nick Athan know all about this. He has sources.

rageeumr
04-27-2007, 03:14 PM
Samirdzijsanjaya

I like what you've done here.

noa
04-27-2007, 03:15 PM
Adam Schefter just did an update on NFL Network and says he thinks the #1 picks is still JaMarcus Russell. Also mentioned a possible Randy Moss trade and said the Packers are still interested.

htismaqe
04-27-2007, 03:17 PM
I'd rather face Quinn than Russell this next season.

And I'd MUCH rather face Quinn than Russell in THREE seasons.

noa
04-27-2007, 03:17 PM
Schefter just said he's pretty sure Quinn will end up with the Browns.

Count Alex's Wins
04-27-2007, 03:17 PM
Explain.

carlos3652
04-27-2007, 03:18 PM
Thank you Go Chiefs...

Mr. Laz
04-27-2007, 03:18 PM
link to this article please

Donger
04-27-2007, 03:20 PM
The number 1 overall pick is the only player allowed to agree to terms before hand.

The number one overall pick is determined until he's drafted though, right?

chagrin
04-27-2007, 03:21 PM
irresponsible to report that they "agreed to a deal" and "raiders sign Quinn"

Pestilence
04-27-2007, 03:22 PM
By Mark Maske
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, April 27, 2007; Page E01

NEW YORK, April 27 -- In a stunning last-minute twist, the Oakland Raiders agreed to a contract with Brady Quinn and announced they will use the top pick in tomorrows NFL draft on the Notre Damn quarterback instead of on LSU quarterback Jamarcus Russell.

:banghead: :cuss:


Where exactly is Notre Damn college located?

noa
04-27-2007, 03:24 PM
The number one overall pick is determined until he's drafted though, right?


The team with the #1 pick can't sign one player and then draft another. If the Raiders sign someone before the draft, they will be forced to draft that player. So basically, if you have the #1 pick, signing someone to a contract is drafting the player for all intents and purposes.

Thig Lyfe
04-27-2007, 03:30 PM
How far has Troy Smith fallen? Is he even a first day pick anymore?

DMAC
04-27-2007, 03:31 PM
Where exactly is Notre Damn college located?
None of yer dame business.

GoHuge
04-27-2007, 03:40 PM
I think someone should smack GoChiefs and strip him of any media credentials for irresponsible reporting. Dude at least put "rumor" in your title. This has BS written all over it. Notre Damn? You'll do anything to make your prediction come true. Go back to your basement and :whackit:. Is this the kind of cutting edge journalism one can get with a premium membership? Shameful :shake:

Chiefs Pantalones
04-27-2007, 03:40 PM
I'd rather face Quinn than Russell this next season.

And I'd MUCH rather face Quinn than Russell in THREE seasons.

You'll be happy the Raiders didn't draft Quinn in three seasons.

Russell will still be struggling in three seasons on his way to bust status.

I HOPE the Raiders pick him.

Count Alex's Wins
04-27-2007, 03:44 PM
I think someone should smack GoChiefs and strip him of any media credentials for irresponsible reporting. Dude at least put "rumor" in your title. This has BS written all over it. Notre Damn? You'll do anything to make your prediction come true. Go back to your basement and :whackit:. Is this the kind of cutting edge journalism one can get with a premium membership? Shameful :shake:

What the ****? I just copied a post from the Mane. Get a life.

Mecca
04-27-2007, 03:45 PM
I agree with maq....Russell is the kind of QB that has killed us. He's big and atheletic.....how many times have you seen a QB get out of sack and launch it 50 yards for a TD on us?

Russell is the kind of QB that could get away from a lineman and jack it 70 yards downfield for a huge play...

eazyb81
04-27-2007, 03:48 PM
How far has Troy Smith fallen? Is he even a first day pick anymore?

No, just like I said all along.

Take a look if you want a good laugh:

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=153043&page=2&pp=15&highlight=Troy+Smith

J Diddy
04-27-2007, 03:50 PM
What the ****? I just copied a post from the Mane. Get a life.


That isn't the way this thread leads, it looks like you copied it from the washington post website, and I'm sure that was your intention.

Sure-Oz
04-27-2007, 03:50 PM
Draft Jamarcus Culpepper

Count Alex's Wins
04-27-2007, 03:52 PM
That isn't the way this thread leads, it looks like you copied it from the washington post website, and I'm sure that was your intention.

You're retarded. I had no intentions other than to pass on information.

shrek6849
04-27-2007, 03:53 PM
Change the thread title dipshit

Count Alex's Wins
04-27-2007, 03:54 PM
Change the thread title dipshit

I did.

the Talking Can
04-27-2007, 03:57 PM
the black Plummer?

J Diddy
04-27-2007, 03:58 PM
You're retarded. I had no intentions other than to pass on information.

I forgot who you work for. Passing misinformation along is what you do.

Mecca
04-27-2007, 03:58 PM
Russell really doesn't run that's a misconception is 40 is 4.8.......he can move around but he isn't some running QB.

Cochise
04-27-2007, 03:59 PM
This doesn't make a lot of sense. If Oakland wants him they could trade down at least a few spots.

I'd rather they took Russell as a Chiefs fan.

But anyway. We'll see how this "prediction" turns out...

el borracho
04-27-2007, 04:00 PM
The number one overall pick is determined until he's drafted though, right?
The team that holds the #1 pick in the draft may negotiate with players prior to the draft but, IIRC, they may not actually sign the contracts until after the draft.

kstater
04-27-2007, 04:06 PM
So is this up on the "premium" edition at warpaint yet?

Count Alex's Wins
04-27-2007, 04:17 PM
So is this up on the "premium" edition at warpaint yet?

Warpaint doesn't really report on NFL news...just Chiefs news.

Mile High Mania
04-27-2007, 04:18 PM
Warpaint doesn't really report on NFL news...

You could have stopped there and been fine.

GoHuge
04-27-2007, 04:18 PM
You're retarded. I had no intentions other than to pass on information.Bullshit you posted it as fact (before you edited the title). If you didn't intend it to look like fact, why where you ranting about predicting this would happen saying look at "realjerkmeofffootball.com." You thought you found a nut, but back pedaled when the legit media did some research and showed your still just a blind virgin squirrel, with no nuts.

Count Alex's Wins
04-27-2007, 04:25 PM
Who cares? Dumbass. I don't give a shit about any of this.

chagrin
04-27-2007, 04:30 PM
Who cares? Dumbass. I don't give a shit about any of this.

I am curious though dude - you're a smar guy, you know what you were doing and didn't post your threaqd titles as simply info, you posted as done deals.

Let me give you a word of advice, seriously, if you want to be considered ssome sort of sports journalist, you can't just make up shit.


I don't say that just to be a dickhead, what you did was wrong on several levels, you know better :shake:

Fruit Ninja
04-27-2007, 04:32 PM
Who cares? Dumbass. I don't give a shit about any of this.YOu dont carea bout any of this, yet you still posted false information? come on man.

Fruit Ninja
04-27-2007, 04:32 PM
GoCheifrs=Gary Thorne?

Count Alex's Wins
04-27-2007, 04:32 PM
YOu dont carea bout any of this, yet you still posted false information? come on man.

WTF? I COPIED A GODDAMN THREAD FROM ANOTHER MESSAGE BOARD.

Yeah, I thought I had found something! Woooo!

Dumbasses.

ct
04-27-2007, 04:34 PM
I was much preferring Oakland to take Russell. Big bust potential. Quinn will not be as flashy, but much safer potential. If he can stay alive that is...

So, does this up the ante for Trent?

Count Alex's Wins
04-27-2007, 04:34 PM
I am curious though dude - you're a smar guy, you know what you were doing and didn't post your threaqd titles as simply info, you posted as done deals.

Let me give you a word of advice, seriously, if you want to be considered ssome sort of sports journalist, you can't just make up shit.


I don't say that just to be a dickhead, what you did was wrong on several levels, you know better :shake:

Again....if you read the blurb, it reads as a done deal.

Don't blame me, blame the jackass from the newspaper.

Mile High Mania
04-27-2007, 04:34 PM
WTF? I COPIED A GODDAMN THREAD FROM ANOTHER MESSAGE BOARD.

Yeah, I thought I had found something! Woooo!

Dumbasses.

That's the WPI motto...

Count Alex's Wins
04-27-2007, 04:35 PM
http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=55799

I WAS DECEIVED THE SAME AS THE REST OF YOU ****ERS. SEE?

Don't shoot the messenger. Sheesh.

Mile High Mania
04-27-2007, 04:38 PM
Yeah, but an aspiring journalist should always check it out... early bird doesn't always get the worm, sometimes he just gets shot.

Count Alex's Wins
04-27-2007, 04:38 PM
Yeah, but an aspiring journalist should always check it out... early bird doesn't always get the worm, sometimes he just gets shot.

I'm not a goddamned aspiring journalist.

Mile High Mania
04-27-2007, 04:39 PM
I'm not a goddamned aspiring journalist.

It's good to come to grips with this early...

88TG88
04-27-2007, 04:39 PM
Got my hopes up for nothing

Count Alex's Wins
04-27-2007, 04:41 PM
Got my hopes up for nothing

Hell I'm PLEASED AS PUNCH that it's false information. I'm GLAD that I'm wrong. But don't tell that to these jackals... :rolleyes:

icepick64
04-27-2007, 04:41 PM
I am a n00b and I know you wpi dipshits have been doin this stuff forever, just wait until you know its a deal instead of starting unfounded rumors.

Dr. Facebook Fever
04-27-2007, 04:42 PM
So why didn't you post the link from the beginning GC instead of trying to make it look like you were first with the story? Maybe everyone wouldn't be so hard on you if you didn't pretend to be an all knowing trailblazer breaking the big news... just to end up looking stupid. You pretty much brought on the reaction that is now pissing you off.

Count Alex's Wins
04-27-2007, 04:43 PM
I am a n00b and I know you wpi dipshits have been doin this stuff forever, just wait until you know its a deal instead of starting unfounded rumors.

I DIDN'T START THE ****ING RUMOR.

Christ.

Cochise
04-27-2007, 04:43 PM
I'm not a goddamned aspiring journalist.

You are an aspiring... what?

icepick64
04-27-2007, 04:44 PM
true you got me there, I should have said spreading unfounded rumors....

Count Alex's Wins
04-27-2007, 04:44 PM
Maybe everyone wouldn't be so hard on you if you didn't pretend to be an all knowing trailblazer breaking the big news..

ROFL

What a friggin' joke. I couldn't care LESS about being a "trailblazer."

GET OUT THE PITCHFORKS!!!

Cochise
04-27-2007, 04:45 PM
So why didn't you post the link from the beginning GC instead of trying to make it look like you were first with the story? Maybe everyone wouldn't be so hard on you if you didn't pretend to be an all knowing trailblazer breaking the big news... just to end up looking stupid. You pretty much brought on the reaction that is now pissing you off.

trying to "break" the story, obviously...

Count Alex's Wins
04-27-2007, 04:45 PM
You are an aspiring... what?

Gigolo.

And my 5 'o' clock is here early. I'm done with this retarded thread.

GoHuge
04-27-2007, 04:45 PM
I'm not a goddamned aspiring journalist.You're an established one :drool:!

Donger
04-27-2007, 04:45 PM
Heh.

Donger
04-27-2007, 04:46 PM
Gigolo.

And my 5 'o' clock is here early.

Is he cute?

Dr. Facebook Fever
04-27-2007, 04:46 PM
Gigolo.

And my 5 'o' clock is here early. I'm done with this retarded thread.
OOOOhhhhhhh............. don't go away mad.




Ok... go away mad.

88TG88
04-27-2007, 04:46 PM
Hell I'm PLEASED AS PUNCH that it's false information. I'm GLAD that I'm wrong. But don't tell that to these jackals... :rolleyes:
I like the pick if it was true. Brady is terrible against any sort of pass rush, USC and LSU games, combine that with the piss poor o line of the faiders and you get a crap qb.

Ugly Duck
04-27-2007, 04:48 PM
I like the pick if it was true. Brady is terrible against any sort of pass rush, USC and LSU games, combine that with the piss poor o line of the faiders and you get a crap qb.

Oakland was the worst o-line in history last year. No doubt about it. But don't expect a repeat... teams do fix stuff sometimes. The new HC hired the Falcon's O-line coaches to implement a cut-blocking scheme. Atlanta's Tom Cable is now the o-line coach. Atlanta's Greg Knapp is now the offensive coordinator. They signed ex-Bronco lineman Cornell Green & then Denvers Cooper Carlisle to use as knee-busting ankle-crunchers. Also got Jeremy Newbury from SF who also specializes in knee-hunting. Jeremy has only allowed 7 sacks in 90 starts. Combined, the two have only allowed 17 sacks in 17 seasons. They're teaching Gallery & Grove how to dive at player's ankles & leg whip as they adopt Bronco-style line play. Oakland may not have the worst o-line play again this season... its changed up a lot.

Pestilence
04-27-2007, 04:49 PM
I like the pick if it was true. Brady is terrible against any sort of pass rush, USC and LSU games, combine that with the piss poor o line of the faiders and you get a crap qb.


You're biased....lol

vailpass
04-27-2007, 04:53 PM
The number one overall pick is determined until he's drafted though, right?

Sorry, I should have said the team with the #1 overall pick is free to negotiate a deal with whomever they are considering spending that pick on, be it one athlete or many.

88TG88
04-27-2007, 04:56 PM
You're biased....lol
I was at the coliseum in Nov and he was horrible. His best play the whole night was that 60 yard run.

Mr. Laz
04-27-2007, 05:02 PM
This doesn't make a lot of sense. If Oakland wants him they could trade down at least a few spots.

I'd rather they took Russell as a Chiefs fan.

But anyway. We'll see how this "prediction" turns out...

it makes sense because Goatcheese is in attention whore mode and the whole thing is crap.

beavis
04-27-2007, 05:06 PM
Well, since the mods refuse to ban him, this is it, goatcheese goes back on ignore.

Pestilence
04-27-2007, 05:11 PM
I was at the coliseum in Nov and he was horrible. His best play the whole night was that 60 yard run.

Damn't....I have nothing to come back with. Just please don't let him go to the Raiders.

shrek6849
04-27-2007, 05:13 PM
What an epic failure of a thread.

Coach
04-27-2007, 05:14 PM
Won't mean a thing if the Raiders can't improve one thing.

Their inept offensive line.

Mr. Laz
04-27-2007, 05:21 PM
common things done when lying


1. act reluctant or mad .... so people think you didn't want to say what you just said.

2. add some vagueness ... so it's harder to prove the lie

3. if called out for lie .... get pissed and blustery to try and back done whomever is calling you out for the lie.

4. run ..... if things start going bad, get the heck out before you are completely uncovered.

Ugly Duck
04-27-2007, 05:23 PM
What an epic failure of a thread.

I just say Mel Kyper on the tube saying there is not an ounce of truth to the rumor. At least it was enough of a rumor to generate a disclaimer....

Count Alex's Wins
04-27-2007, 05:24 PM
You're a real dipshit, Laz.

Ugly Duck
04-27-2007, 05:25 PM
Won't mean a thing if the Raiders can't improve one thing.

Their inept offensive line.

I repeat...... Oakland was the worst o-line in history last year. No doubt about it. But don't expect a repeat... teams do fix stuff sometimes. The new HC hired the Falcon's O-line coaches to implement a cut-blocking scheme. Atlanta's Tom Cable is now the o-line coach. Atlanta's Greg Knapp is now the offensive coordinator. They signed ex-Bronco lineman Cornell Green & then Denvers Cooper Carlisle to use as knee-busting ankle-crunchers. Also got Jeremy Newbury from SF who also specializes in knee-hunting. Jeremy has only allowed 7 sacks in 90 starts. Combined, the two have only allowed 17 sacks in 17 seasons. They're teaching Gallery & Grove how to dive at player's ankles & leg whip as they adopt Bronco-style line play. Oakland may not have the worst o-line play again this season... its changed up a lot.

Coach
04-27-2007, 05:27 PM
I repeat...... Oakland was the worst o-line in history last year. No doubt about it. But don't expect a repeat... teams do fix stuff sometimes. The new HC hired the Falcon's O-line coaches to implement a cut-blocking scheme. Atlanta's Tom Cable is now the o-line coach. Atlanta's Greg Knapp is now the offensive coordinator. They signed ex-Bronco lineman Cornell Green & then Denvers Cooper Carlisle to use as knee-busting ankle-crunchers. Also got Jeremy Newbury from SF who also specializes in knee-hunting. Jeremy has only allowed 7 sacks in 90 starts. Combined, the two have only allowed 17 sacks in 17 seasons. They're teaching Gallery & Grove how to dive at player's ankles & leg whip as they adopt Bronco-style line play. Oakland may not have the worst o-line play again this season... its changed up a lot.

Teams do fix stuff, and I agree with that. However, as for now, it's just pure speculation. And there's nothing wrong with acquiring new players and coaches.

However, it'll take time for them to mesh as a unit, if they do.

kcmaxwell
04-27-2007, 05:27 PM
(quote)You're a real dipshit, Laz.(/quote)
ouch...that stung...

Ugly Duck
04-27-2007, 05:33 PM
Teams do fix stuff, and I agree with that. However, as for now, it's just pure speculation. And there's nothing wrong with acquiring new players and coaches.

However, it'll take time for them to mesh as a unit, if they do.

Hey now.... if you're just going to be sane and reasonable, I'm gonna go find somebody else to annoy......

Count Alex's Wins
04-27-2007, 05:34 PM
Just promise me you won't post preseason stats this year, Duck.

Mr. Laz
04-27-2007, 05:36 PM
(quote)You're a real dipshit, Laz.(/quote)
ouch...that stung...
i'm gonna cry ... seriously, i'll be back in a minute


*sniffle*

Ugly Duck
04-27-2007, 05:36 PM
Just promise me you won't post preseason stats this year, Duck.

I won't if you won't....

Count Alex's Wins
04-27-2007, 05:37 PM
I won't if you won't....

I'm not going to do it regardless.

Who do you want in the draft?

Brock
04-27-2007, 05:41 PM
Is this a lie?

Count Alex's Wins
04-27-2007, 05:43 PM
Is this a lie?

Yes. You can thank Mark "The Erroneous One" Maske.

Mr. Laz
04-27-2007, 05:44 PM
Is this a lie?
it was posted by Goatcheese wasn't it

Brock
04-27-2007, 05:45 PM
Yes. You can thank Mark "The Erroneous One" Maske.

Link?

Skip Towne
04-27-2007, 05:55 PM
I'm not a goddamned aspiring journalist.
You damn sure aren't.

stlchiefs
04-27-2007, 05:58 PM
That is what I was wondering. I have never heard of this before.

Do you follow the draft? That is always one of the primary goals of the team with the first pick. Everything was signed beforehand last year.

Edit: just noticed this was a 10 page thread. I'm sure this has already been covered, but I'm don't have the time to read 10 pages worth of lies.

Count Alex's Wins
04-27-2007, 06:03 PM
You damn sure aren't.

Like you would know. :rolleyes:

Logical
04-27-2007, 06:05 PM
If true this is a fantastic move on the part of the Raiders. Damn, Damn, Damn we wii the the only Western Division AFC team without a legeitimate potential franchise QB.

Skip Towne
04-27-2007, 06:06 PM
Like you would know. :rolleyes:
I know shit writing when I see it. And you stink. But I see Nick is bringing you along in his own image. Liar.

Count Alex's Wins
04-27-2007, 06:07 PM
I know shit writing when I see it.

I'm surprised you can even read, burnout.

Donger
04-27-2007, 06:08 PM
I know shit writing when I see it. And you stink. But I see Nick is bringing you along in his own image. Liar.

Come on now. Surely you'd agree that GoChiefs is becoming a better writer, no?

GoHuge
04-27-2007, 06:12 PM
Come on now. Surely you'd agree that GoChiefs is becoming a better writer, no?It is kind of hard to give anybody any credit when they pull some shit like this. He was "done with this thread" three pages ago. Start a bullshit thread and keep it running and running.........

Skip Towne
04-27-2007, 06:13 PM
Come on now. Surely you'd agree that GoChiefs is becoming a better writer, no?
I don't read his tripe.

Donger
04-27-2007, 06:14 PM
It is kind of hard to give anybody any credit when they pull some shit like this. He was "done with this thread" three pages ago. Start a bullshit thread and keep it running and running.........

I didn't say that he wasn't an attention whore. I said that his writing is getting better.

Count Alex's Wins
04-27-2007, 06:14 PM
It is kind of hard to give anybody any credit when they pull some shit like this.

Yeah, I really "pulled some shit" by copying a post from another forum. What you still fail to realize you ignorant **** is that I'm just as much of a "victim" in this scenario as you. I was deceived ALONG WITH EVERYONE ELSE. I'm just the goddamn messenger.

Thanks for ****ing up the thread.

Count Alex's Wins
04-27-2007, 06:15 PM
I don't read his tripe.

Can't read the text on your shitty WebTV, burnout?

Donger
04-27-2007, 06:15 PM
I don't read his tripe.

Then how do you know that his writing is "sh*t"?

Mr. Laz
04-27-2007, 06:15 PM
"There is no truth to the rumor about the Raiders and Quinn, they haven't talked in 2 days ... they never have made an offer to Brady Quinn. It's still looking like it's going to be JaMarcus Russell"

~Chris Mortenson

just moments ago on espn

Mr. Laz
04-27-2007, 06:17 PM
Then how do you know that his writing is "sh*t"?
i believe you are judging by writing skill, while other people are judging by sports insight.


2 completely different things

Count Alex's Wins
04-27-2007, 06:19 PM
other people are judging by sports insight.


Like the obviously moronic site owners that keep paying me? And giving me raises? And headhunting me?

Donger
04-27-2007, 06:19 PM
i believe you are judging by writing skill, while other people are judging by sports insight.


2 completely different things

Oh. Okay.

alanm
04-27-2007, 06:20 PM
Someone put a RUMOR: on the suject line... this is not a done deal yet, as it was not confirmed...
Yeah, I heard on the radio coming home that they were just feeling him out on how much $$$ Quinn may want.
It ain't even close to being a done deal. :shake:

Mr. Laz
04-27-2007, 06:23 PM
Like the obviously moronic site owners that keep paying me? And giving me raises? And headhunting me?
i believe my statement was true

donger is judging your writing like an english teacher while others are judging it like a sports fan. So the dispute between donger and others is simply a misunderstand about what is being looked at.


whether you are worth a crap i didn't comment on(this time).

carlos3652
04-27-2007, 06:25 PM
To GC credit, as soon as i asked to put rumor on the subject line, because it wasnt confirmed, he did... it doesnt show up in the main thread title, but it was on the subject line as soon as i complained about it...

GoHuge
04-27-2007, 06:27 PM
Yeah, I really "pulled some shit" by copying a post from another forum. What you still fail to realize you ignorant **** is that I'm just as much of a "victim" in this scenario as you. I was deceived ALONG WITH EVERYONE ELSE. I'm just the goddamn messenger.

Thanks for ****ing up the thread.Pick one dicknose. Your the messenger or you thought you found a nut and where wrong. Quit going back and forth. You did the only decieving by bringing this trash on here. First you posted it, then you tried to say "I predicted this," and then when it was shown to be bullshit you put RUMOR in the title. You made everybody on CP a victim. Your the one that started this whole deal. I screwed up the thread? It was shit to start with.

Count Alex's Wins
04-27-2007, 06:29 PM
Pick one dicknose. Your the messenger or you thought you found a nut and where wrong.

It's BOTH. I delivered CRAP. I'm ****ing SORRY, all RIGHT?

Try to do something nice for someone and it blows up in your face. Last time I post any news here.

carlos3652
04-27-2007, 06:29 PM
I do believe it should have bee RUMOR on the title from the beggining unless you had a link or a confirmed "big" source... GC just say you made a mistake and you move on...

carlos3652
04-27-2007, 06:30 PM
It's BOTH. I delivered CRAP. I'm ****ing SORRY, all RIGHT?

Try to do something nice for someone and it blows up in your face. Last time I post any news here.


I think thats all they wanted... no biggie, you'll know next time to do different, thread closed...

Count Alex's Wins
04-27-2007, 06:32 PM
I think thats all they wanted... no biggie, you'll know next time to do different, thread closed...

I don't need your patronizing bullshit. Go **** yourself.

kstater
04-27-2007, 06:33 PM
It's BOTH. I delivered CRAP. I'm ****ing SORRY, all RIGHT?

Try to do something nice for someone and it blows up in your face. Last time I post any news here.


Seriously? We don't have to read the warpaint crap anymore?

carlos3652
04-27-2007, 06:33 PM
I don't need your patronizing bullshit. Go **** yourself.

WTF...????

Donger
04-27-2007, 06:36 PM
I don't need your patronizing bullshit. Go **** yourself.

Oh, settle down, for God's sake.

carlos3652
04-27-2007, 06:36 PM
I was giving you the benefit of the doubt that you made a mistake, and everyone was giving you shite...

that was uncalled for... but thanks for being an ass...

Mr. Laz
04-27-2007, 06:40 PM
I don't need your patronizing bullshit. Go **** yourself.
Seriously. He's always here. He's obviously very computer literate. He takes personal attacks in stride. And he hasn't wigged out for a long time now.




ROFL ROFL

Ugly Duck
04-27-2007, 07:03 PM
Try to do something nice for someone and it blows up in your face.

Maybe you should try dating women instead of men....

(jk)

convict1983
04-27-2007, 07:08 PM
I hope the Raiders dont get Quinn. He is the real deal and will be a good QB. Hopefully he goes to Miami.

carlos3652
04-27-2007, 07:12 PM
wtf??? Hopefully he goes to the Browns...

Tribal Warfare
04-27-2007, 07:19 PM
I hope the Raiders dont get Quinn. He is the real deal and will be a good QB. Hopefully he goes to Miami.



He's Todd Blackledge in the making

Brock
04-27-2007, 07:54 PM
If true this is a fantastic move on the part of the Raiders. Damn, Damn, Damn we wii the the only Western Division AFC team without a legeitimate potential franchise QB.

LOL

Ugly Duck
04-28-2007, 12:35 AM
Peter King of Sports Illustrated:


DETROIT -- All those rumors about Brady Quinn being close to a deal with the Oakland Raiders, or having already agreed to one? Forget them. Totally false.

An NFL source with knowledge of the Raiders' discussions with Quinn's representatives this week said late Friday afternoon that the two sides aren't close, have never been close and will certainly will not consummate a deal before the start of Saturday's NFL Draft.

In fact, NFL observers at the draft in New York were preparing for the Raiders to select LSU quarterback JaMarcus Russell instead of Quinn with the first pick in the draft.

In addition, the Raiders spent part of Friday making telephone calls trying to find a veteran quarterback to acquire before Saturday's draft. The Raiders do not want to exit draft weekend with a rookie quarterback backed up only by 2005 third-round pick Andrew Walter, who is mostly a failure as a part-time Oakland starter last fall.


http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/peter_king/04/27/quinn.no.deal/index.html

Coach
04-28-2007, 08:25 AM
Hey now.... if you're just going to be sane and reasonable, I'm gonna go find somebody else to annoy......

Heh, sorry. I guess my coaching bias took over me. :D :p

kcirnamffoh
04-28-2007, 10:01 AM
no, no, no ... word has it that Al Davis is dead set on Al Funkenberry, a standout sophmore long snapper out of Morris State University. He likes the fact his first name is Al but more importantly he can throw a football between his legs through a hoop at 25 yards 9 out of 10 times, run the 40 under 4.5, dates a cute little blond (who likes the Raiders) and has a mom that can bake a mean bananna cream pie with a grahm cracker crust. He's also looking at a punter. So you all can forget all this talk about a QB. Jeez, what's a QB when you've got the best long snapper since Bobby Bell staring you right in the face!

Mr. Laz
04-28-2007, 11:28 AM
oopsie

Lzen
04-28-2007, 11:29 AM
Heh, nice call.

Fish
04-28-2007, 11:29 AM
LMAO

Sully
04-28-2007, 11:31 AM
Gotta give the credit...

BigMeatballDave
04-28-2007, 11:38 AM
Awesome thread!

Coach
04-28-2007, 12:07 PM
Nice smokescreen.

Dr. Facebook Fever
04-28-2007, 12:29 PM
Greatest thread ever.

InvinciBill
04-28-2007, 01:07 PM
By Nick Athan
Wairpant Illustrated Staff Writer


Fixed the byline

Ugly Duck
04-28-2007, 01:16 PM
Originally Posted by GoChiefs
"Try to do something nice for someone and it blows up in your face."

Euuwww!! Yuuuck!! Oowey-gooey!! Thats disgusting..... go wash your face or something.....

Count Alex's Wins
04-28-2007, 01:22 PM
If the Chiefs end up drafting Brady Quinn this thread will be moved to the hall of classics. LMAO