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WestCoastReggie
04-28-2007, 04:10 PM
When you draft a wideout, you look for a few things: recognition of different coverages, hands and concentration, size, quickness off snap, ability to separate, downfield blocking, run after catch, willingness to catch over the middle and extend, speed, crisp patterns, and under-pressure catches.

Bowe is a great pick. He's one of the biggest wideouts in the draft at around 225 and 6'2. Won't get jammed at the line and can still double-move a cornerback. He consistently catches the ball with his hands. Is one of the best blockers in the draft. Runs confidently with a lot of power. Extends very well. Most polished reciever outide of Calvin Johnson. Makes big catches in big games. Played against great competition in the SEC. Great senior season with 12 TDs. Some say boosted JaMarcus Russell's stock. Only weakness was lack of focus and a 4.5 forty.

Here's Bowe's stats for each game last year.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/ncaa/players/5719/

Overall, Bowe is a great pick for Chiefs. Imo.

doomy3
04-28-2007, 04:12 PM
I love it.

Dr. Facebook Fever
04-28-2007, 04:12 PM
Yes.

JBucc
04-28-2007, 04:13 PM
I'm content.

BigMeatballDave
04-28-2007, 04:14 PM
Very happy. Although, I think I am more happy about laughing at the crybabies around here that wanted Quinn. LMAO

Simplex3
04-28-2007, 04:15 PM
I have a latent fear that he's SlyMo II, but for now I'm happy with it. At least he wasn't a complete reach. We'll wait for next round to do that.

ArrowheadHawk
04-28-2007, 04:16 PM
i think it was a solid pick

BigMeatballDave
04-28-2007, 04:16 PM
I have a latent fear that he's SlyMo II, but for now I'm happy with it. At least he wasn't a complete reach. We'll wait for next round to do that.That never even crossed my mine. I think Bowe has a larger frame. Morris was more lanky.

wazu
04-28-2007, 04:17 PM
I'm not super-pissed, but I was hoping for O-line. And I generally can't get too excited about "possession" receivers.

I'm just hoping that the Chiefs have some kind of plan for fixing their O-line that I can't see yet. This is one area Carl has traditionally taken good care of, so I'll reserve judgement.

Count Zarth
04-28-2007, 04:17 PM
Sly Mo was good.

Bacon Cheeseburger
04-28-2007, 04:17 PM
Hopefully we can protect our QB long enough to get the ball to him.

Tribal Warfare
04-28-2007, 04:18 PM
i think it was a solid pick


In a perfect world he'll develop into a Sterling Sharpe clone without the neck injury

Demonpenz
04-28-2007, 04:19 PM
we put the cart before the horse. The games are won in the trenches and we SUCK in them right now

Fairplay
04-28-2007, 04:19 PM
Hopefully we can protect our QB long enough to get the ball to him.



I hope Brodie is a scrambler.

ArrowheadHawk
04-28-2007, 04:20 PM
Hopefully we can protect our QB long enough to get the ball to him.
i bet we pickup some lineman in the next few rounds to help with that but this is a solid pick

booger
04-28-2007, 04:20 PM
yes.

Comparred to Aquan Bolden. Also reminds me of Jerry Porter w/o the attitude.

booger
04-28-2007, 04:21 PM
http://www.newerascouting.com/index.php?c=20&a=89

patteeu
04-28-2007, 04:21 PM
I was hoping that Quinn would fall to us and we'd trade down to get an extra pick, but since he didn't, I'm very happy with Bowe.

Demonpenz
04-28-2007, 04:24 PM
The way I had bowe graded out would be a david boston type of player

wazu
04-28-2007, 04:28 PM
http://www.newerascouting.com/index.php?c=20&a=89

Did he write that report himself? It's the only place I've seen that claims he runs a 4.4.

WestCoastReggie
04-28-2007, 04:28 PM
To add further, I see Bowe replacing Samie Parker immdiately.

the Talking Can
04-28-2007, 04:28 PM
I'm thrilled we drafted a WR
I'm thrilled we didn't draft Staley or Ross

I know nothing about Bowe, never seen him play. Fingers crossed.

Frosty
04-28-2007, 04:28 PM
I would have liked to trade down and get more picks, but I like this pick. Hopefully we can get one of the good guards in the second.

bdeg
04-28-2007, 04:29 PM
Don't love it but I like it.

By the way he actually ran a 4.40 at LSU's pro day.

WestCoastReggie
04-28-2007, 04:35 PM
I'm thrilled we drafted a WR
I'm trilled we didn't draft Staley or Ross

I know nothing about Bore, never seen him play. Fingers crossed.

I recently moved to Monroe last summer and watched this guy play every game. He is very productive and a team leader. He's not a gamble.

SCTrojan
04-28-2007, 04:35 PM
I'm thrilled we drafted a WR
I'm trilled we didn't draft Staley or Ross

I know nothing about Bore, never seen him play. Fingers crossed.

Those are my thoughts exactly. Having never seen the man play, I'll hope that we made the right decision.

the Talking Can
04-28-2007, 04:36 PM
lol...sorry for calling him "Bore"

WestCoastReggie
04-28-2007, 04:38 PM
Don't love it but I like it.

By the way he actually ran a 4.40 at LSU's pro day.

It was my understanding that his fastest forty was at the combine. During the season, he played at around 222 pounds. He showed at the combine at 212 and ran a 4.5-6.

wazu
04-28-2007, 04:40 PM
It was my understanding that his fastest forty was at the combine. During the season, he played at around 222 pounds. He showed at the combine at 212 and ran a 4.5-6.

He ran a 4.57 at the combine. Great to discover that he was 10 pounds below playing weight at the time.

Chiefnj2
04-28-2007, 04:40 PM
It was a very good pick. I'm happy.

bdeg
04-28-2007, 04:41 PM
It was my understanding that his fastest forty was at the combine. During the season, he played at around 222 pounds. He showed at the combine at 212 and ran a 4.5-6.
Nope, he ran a 4.40 at LSU's pro day...

at 218 too.

http://www.lsusports.net/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=27815&SPID=2164&DB_LANG=C&DB_OEM_ID=5200&ATCLID=827035

wazu
04-28-2007, 04:41 PM
Don't love it but I like it.

By the way he actually ran a 4.40 at LSU's pro day.

Was his agent holding the stopwatch?

Miles
04-28-2007, 04:41 PM
It's the only place I've seen that claims he runs a 4.4.

He ran something like 4.4 and 4.49 at LSU's pro day.

thedude
04-28-2007, 04:43 PM
First guy that he sounds like to me is Hines Ward. Just a quick thought.

wazu
04-28-2007, 04:47 PM
First guy that he sounds like to me is Hines Ward. Just a quick thought.

I've heard Hines Ward and Arnaz Battle. We'll see.

StcChief
04-28-2007, 04:47 PM
We will see we haven't been able to draft #1 WR in quite a while. Like his size, hands, speed. blocking ability.

nychief
04-28-2007, 04:49 PM
blocking ability is huge.

crazycoffey
04-28-2007, 04:53 PM
Happy here, see the videos of him blocking? Hope that continues, he'll need it.

siberian khatru
04-28-2007, 04:55 PM
blocking ability is huge.

I read that a couple of months ago in the scouting reports and figured that would make him one of our top targets. He'll help the running game, and he's a big target over the middle in the passing game.

I like the pick a lot.

blueballs
04-28-2007, 04:58 PM
I don't play for ****ing LSU anymore
say it Dwayne say it

Extra Point
04-28-2007, 04:59 PM
I agree on the blocking ability. That will be a big factor if we run off tackle, and Bowe can trap-nail the play-side OLB, so one of our OG's can demolish the CB.

blueballs
04-28-2007, 05:05 PM
Redrum's mom will test
his elusiveness at the airport

Phobia
04-28-2007, 05:12 PM
The Chiefs have had great results from *LSU WR's. I'm very happy.


* Please do not steal this for your stupid article, gochiefs.

Ari Chi3fs
04-28-2007, 05:16 PM
any video of him yet?

oaklandhater
04-28-2007, 05:16 PM
been waiting 7 years for the chiefs to draft a WR in the 1st im about has happy has can be.

Ari Chi3fs
04-28-2007, 05:18 PM
hate the music... but damn.

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Ari Chi3fs
04-28-2007, 05:25 PM
Athletic Ability

Big, strong athlete with good agility and adequate vertical speed. Will break arm tackles in open space and has enough shake to dodge the first defender.
Character

No major character concerns.
Competitive Nature/Leadership Ability

Willingly seeks out contact and rarely hears footsteps over the middle.
Football Intelligence

A late bloomer who is still learning the game. A little slow picking out soft spots in zone coverage. Did not start playing football until his junior year in high school.
Size

Big bodied receiver that has ideal build.
Toughness/Durability

Loses concentration over the middle of the field, possibly hearing footsteps. However, he willingly absorbs kill shots when he has the ball in his hands.
Work Ethic

Hard worker who has taken great strides in his last few years at LSU. Worked his way up from fourth on the depth chart as a freshman to one of the most prolific LSU receivers ever.


Position Specific Traits

Agility

Possess very good agility for a man of his size. Gets in and out of his cuts well. Has good hip-sink agility and is very smooth redirecting.
Blocking

A terrific blocker who uses his size and strength to his advantage. Shows a mean streak going after defenders and always looks for the extra block.
Body Control

Excellent balance and high-point agility. Can make acrobratic catches outside of his frame.
Concentration/Hands

Has soft, powerful hands. Loses concentration sometimes and drops passes he should hang onto. Needs to learn to hold onto the ball better when threatened by a defender. Catches passes with his hands, not his body.
Field Vision

Lacks great feel against zone coverage. Very good field vision with the ball in his hands. Reads blocks well and is shifty in open space.
Release

Consistently beats press coverage because of his size and strength. Has a good shake at the LOS to ward off defenders..
Route Running

A good route runner who continues to improve. Sometimes rounds off his routes, but is typically excellent breaking in and out of patterns. Wastes very little motion for the most part. A little inconsistent at times.
Speed

Lacks the explosiveness and vertical speed to get behind a defense. Adequate speed for his size, and has enough shiftiness in space to create.

Herzig
04-28-2007, 05:28 PM
I have a latent fear that he's SlyMo II, but for now I'm happy with it. At least he wasn't a complete reach. We'll wait for next round to do that.

No comparison. Slymo came from second rate conference and team (Jackson State). He was lanky and skinny. Bowe is a bulky stud from WR the SEC.

Phobia
04-28-2007, 05:28 PM
hate the music... but damn.


Music? That garbage got muted .2 seconds in.

stlchiefs
04-28-2007, 05:32 PM
I'm not nearly excited over our pick as I have been the past 2 years. Getting DJ was a steal and I loved the pick of Hali. Bowe is ehhhh, ok. Someone posted a chart of the top WR in the NFL last season and the round they were drafted in, it made me like the idea of taking a WR in round 1 even less (though there are busts in every round). WR is a position that takes a WR a couple seasons to adjust to and it's high risk. I HOPE it pans out.

Ari Chi3fs
04-28-2007, 05:33 PM
Music? That garbage got muted .2 seconds in.

Apparently, Dwayne Bowe is the worlds best rapper, also.

Several racial epithets being thrown around at the beginning... didnt notice that at first, as I had volume down.

yikes.

HolmeZz
04-28-2007, 05:34 PM
Very happy.

buddha
04-28-2007, 05:39 PM
This guy has no connection to Sly Morris whatsoever. He's a much bigger man and he is much more physical. Every report was that Bowe is a great athlete. He may not have burner speed, but Parker did and what good did it do? Nada.

NewChief
04-28-2007, 05:41 PM
Music? That garbage got muted .2 seconds in.

I like rap, and that crap was too much for me.

blueballs
04-28-2007, 05:46 PM
KC has 2 first round starters a WR
Parker-Hannon-other guy not close

Demonpenz
04-28-2007, 05:55 PM
i listen to alot of hip hop and I love the intro but the actual song was wack

go bowe
04-28-2007, 06:00 PM
* * * A late bloomer who is still learning the game. A little slow picking out soft spots in zone coverage. Did not start playing football until his junior year in high school.
* * *
Loses concentration over the middle of the field, possibly hearing footsteps.
** *
Concentration/Hands
Has soft, powerful hands. Loses concentration sometimes and drops passes he should hang onto. Needs to learn to hold onto the ball better when threatened by a defender. Catches passes with his hands, not his body.

Field Vision
Lacks great feel against zone coverage.

Lacks the explosiveness and vertical speed to get behind a defense. * * *everthing else in your post seems terrific to mind-blowing...

these few lines bother me though...

what happened is herm picked the best blocking wr to come along in the last few centuries...

he's going to create a new position...

wide blocker (think an extra lineman blocking downfied...

i'd venture to say that herm took him to help the running game with an extra (almost) lineman...

anything through the air that he might catch is probably just gravy in herm's mind...

thanks for the info ari... :thumb:

UteChief
04-28-2007, 06:02 PM
Wasn't the intro of the music Denzel Washington for the movie Training Day.

htismaqe
04-28-2007, 06:07 PM
VERY happy?

No.

Happy? Sure.

Chris Meck
04-28-2007, 07:58 PM
Morris wasn't a bad pick; he caught 48 balls for almost 900 yds as a rookie. (more than Terrell Owens caught as a rookie, I might add.)

He blew his knee out in year two and was done. he'd had no real injury history...hey, shit happens.

but to act as though that was a bad pick-like there was a lapse in judgement in drafting him, is incorrect.

I like the Bowe pick; he looks like a football player.

Chris

KcMizzou
04-28-2007, 08:09 PM
hate the music... but damn. Physically, the guy looks like an animal. I'm not used to seeing Chiefs receivers built like that.

KcMizzou
04-28-2007, 08:10 PM
I like rap, and that crap was too much for me.Same here.

FringeNC
04-28-2007, 08:49 PM
WR is such a crapshoot...hell, the whole draft is.

Assuming Bowe starts, who will be the other WR? Are we going to cut Kennison loose?

htismaqe
04-28-2007, 08:51 PM
WR is such a crapshoot...hell, the whole draft is.

Assuming Bowe starts, who will be the other WR? Are we going to cut Kennison loose?

Bowe and Kennison will start. Parker to the slot.

FringeNC
04-28-2007, 08:53 PM
Bowe and Kennison will start. Parker to the slot.

I thought Herm was in love with Webb and Hannon. I wouldn't be shocked to see Eddie go.

KcMizzou
04-28-2007, 08:55 PM
I thought Herm was in love with Webb and Hannon. I wouldn't be shocked to see Eddie go.Never happen.

You cant just cut him loose. He's the only proven receiver we have.

Simply Red
04-28-2007, 08:57 PM
I think he'll be a good WR. Like most though, I'd like to see him perform before I get/go too far in depth (regarding my opinion).

FringeNC
04-28-2007, 08:57 PM
Never happen.

You cant just cut him loose. He's the only proven receiver we have.

We're trading the only proven QB we have. Why not let Croyle develop timing with the young 'uns.

KcMizzou
04-28-2007, 09:01 PM
We're trading the only proven QB we have. Why not let Croyle develop timing with the young 'uns.That's a good point... but I still don't think it'll happen. The plan's gotta be to rebuild while staying competitive. I really like what they've done so far.

Say what you will about Herm's in-game coaching decisions, but I sure like what he's done in the off-season.

KcMizzou
04-28-2007, 09:02 PM
We're trading the only proven QB we have. Why not let Croyle develop timing with the young 'uns.
Also... Kennison's only one guy. Croyle will have more than enough opportunity to get timing down with the young guys.

WestCoastReggie
04-28-2007, 09:23 PM
Here's a pretty cool picture.

Tribal Warfare
04-28-2007, 09:43 PM
the thing I like is this will help Gonzo bigtime and might give him a few more truly productive years