PDA

View Full Version : What is realistic production from Dwayne Bowe in his 1st year?


suds79
04-30-2007, 07:55 AM
Lets assume that Dwayne Bowe lands the 2nd WR spot.

I fully expect that to happen because he's a #1 pick, he's more talented than Samie Parker & because Samie sucks.

WRs typically do not fair well in year one. However, I'm still pumped about the pick.

Now I know a lot depends on who's the starting QB so don't get too technical on me and lets keep this fun.

So what do you think it'll be? Poll forthcoming.

Mecca
04-30-2007, 08:01 AM
If he starts day 1, with the way the Chiefs play offense I'll say 600-800 around 50-60 catches.....he's more the possession guy so he will get alot of short looks I'm guessing and YAC chances cause he's really good at that.

ChiTown
04-30-2007, 08:03 AM
You got 50% of it....

"Now I know a lot depends on who's the starting QB so don't get too technical on me and lets keep this fun."

Indeed, but I think this also go hand in hand with how well the OL does (especially pass protection).

That said, 400-600 yards is what I predict. I see lots of short passing

Chiefnj
04-30-2007, 08:06 AM
400-600 would be good with the QB, OL and LJ situation.

JBucc
04-30-2007, 08:07 AM
3000 yards and 25 TD's. Anything less=bust.

OnTheWarpath58
04-30-2007, 08:13 AM
I'll go 600-800. Something tells me he and Brodie are gonna click.

The other question: With all the offseason talk about Herm wanting to get Webb and Hannon on the field, the pick of Bowe seems to throw a wrench in the works.....

Who's the odd man/men out? Hannon? Parker?

**Gasp** - Kennison? Herm wants to get younger.......

I don't think that'll happen, just throwing it out there......

Mecca
04-30-2007, 08:15 AM
Hannon or Webb will be the slot with the other guy being the 4.......I don't think there's any way our first pick doesn't start. That pick should tell you they all think he's better than what we have.

OnTheWarpath58
04-30-2007, 08:19 AM
Hannon or Webb will be the slot with the other guy being the 4.......I don't think there's any way our first pick doesn't start. That pick should tell you they all think he's better than what we have.

Oh yeah, I'm intedning for Bowe to start. That's leaving someone out.

Bowe, Kennison, Parker, Webb, Hannon.

Maybe by mistake, but based on what you wrote, let's say Webb plays slot and Hannon is #4.

That means either Parker or Kennison are gone......

Fire Me Boy!
04-30-2007, 08:19 AM
0-200. He'll hold out, miss the first week of training camp, get hurt in game 2.

el borracho
04-30-2007, 08:20 AM
I'll go 600-800. Something tells me he and Brodie are gonna click.

The other question: With all the offseason talk about Herm wanting to get Webb and Hannon on the field, the pick of Bowe seems to throw a wrench in the works.....

Who's the odd man/men out? Hannon? Parker?

**Gasp** - Kennison? Herm wants to get younger.......

I don't think that'll happen, just throwing it out there......
Gardner will be the odd man out. We just gave Kennison more money last year and he is the only proven, productive commodity so he gets another year.

Fire Me Boy!
04-30-2007, 08:21 AM
Realistically, Kennison is #1, Parker #2, Bowe #3.

Parker stretches the field, and we all know that rookie WR rarely have impact seasons.

I think Bowe will start in 08. Kennison will be gone. Parker may be gone if he doesn't improve in 07.

Mecca
04-30-2007, 08:23 AM
I don't personally think Herm likes Parker.......he doesn't fit into the style at all. He is not big, he is not physical, he isn't consistent or reliable.......

I think he and Gardner are about the same and Gardner Hannon and Webb all play special teams where Parker doesn't............Parker may be looking at being the odd man out for alot of reasons.

cdcox
04-30-2007, 08:30 AM
I think Bowe's primary value will be his downfield blocking. /Herm

StcChief
04-30-2007, 08:30 AM
400-600 short yard catches.

OnTheWarpath58
04-30-2007, 08:30 AM
Gardner will be the odd man out. We just gave Kennison more money last year and he is the only proven, productive commodity so he gets another year.

I'm pretty sure Gardner is already gone. If he's not, that gives us 6 WR's.

Even if he is, that leaves 5, and I don't remember a single game last year where we dressed mroe than 4.

Again, this is in reference to Herm wanting to get these guys playing time. I'm not talking about making the roster.

Tribal Warfare
04-30-2007, 08:31 AM
Realistically, Kennison is #1, Parker #2, Bowe #3.

Parker stretches the field, and we all know that rookie WR rarely have impact seasons.

I think Bowe will start in 08. Kennison will be gone. Parker may be gone if he doesn't improve in 07.


BUT,BUT, what about the wonder twins Webb and Hannon?

cdcox
04-30-2007, 08:31 AM
I think he'll start. I voted 600-800 yards.

Mecca
04-30-2007, 08:32 AM
I'm pretty sure Gardner is already gone. If he's not, that gives us 6 WR's.

Even if he is, that leaves 5, and I don't remember a single game last year where we dressed mroe than 4.

Again, this is in reference to Herm wanting to get these guys playing time. I'm not talking about making the roster.

Oddly even though DV didn't, most teams do carry 6 WR's.

Brock
04-30-2007, 08:34 AM
They should just cut Parker altogether.

Mecca
04-30-2007, 08:35 AM
They should just cut Parker altogether.

We agree on something else...........that's happened to much lately......twilight zone.

el borracho
04-30-2007, 08:35 AM
Oh, I misunderstood. In that case I will say that Kennison, Webb and Bowe are the top 3 in playing time in 2007, Hannon and Parker fight it out to be the 4th.

Brock
04-30-2007, 08:36 AM
We agree on something else...........that's happened to much lately......twilight zone.

It's because you're getting smarter. :p

OnTheWarpath58
04-30-2007, 08:38 AM
Guys.....I'm talking about PLAYING TIME.

I'm not talking about carrying 5 or 6 receivers.

We typically dress 4. Who will they be?

Logic says Kennison, Bowe, Parker, Webb.

If that's the case, Webb's gonna get very little playing time, and Hannon next to none. Herm said these guys were gonna see the field this year.

Either he's gonna go back on what he said, or someone is out. I don;t see us releasing Kennison/Parker, so my guess is Hannon is SOL and Herm spoke too soon.....

OnTheWarpath58
04-30-2007, 08:39 AM
Oh, I misunderstood. In that case I will say that Kennison, Webb and Bowe are the top 3 in playing time in 2007, Hannon and Parker fight it out to be the 4th.

That's what I'm looking for, right there.

Who's gonna PLAY.

Mile High Mania
04-30-2007, 08:47 AM
Bowe has talent, no doubt about it. Rookie WRs rarely do much, but there have been a few instances of greatness.

I'd say anything from 600 - 800 would be a nice first year. Anything less than 500 would be disappointing for you guys and anything more would be an amazing addition.

Mecca
04-30-2007, 08:50 AM
They need to just cut Parker he has shown nothing, other than he runs fast. Not to mention he'll probably get a penalty this year for his stupid reaction when he actually does catch a ball.

Hoover
04-30-2007, 08:50 AM
I think it will break down like this next season

1. EK
2. DB
3. Parker
4. Webb
5. Hannon

I think Bowe hasa solid year with around 600 or so yards and a TD or two.

I actually think we will be fine on offense if hte Oline holds up. And while some are bitching that we didn't address that need in the draft, I don't know if a drafted player would have cracked the starting line up anyway. Are we as good as in years past no, but we have been spoiled.

Hoover
04-30-2007, 08:51 AM
They need to just cut Parker he has shown nothing, other than he runs fast. Not to mention he'll probably get a penalty this year for his stupid reaction when he actually does catch a ball.
Parker has been out of position because of Dante Hall. Parker is a nice slot reciever, give him a chance.

cdcox
04-30-2007, 08:53 AM
If Parker wants to make the team, he better win out the #3 slot because he doesn't play special teams.

Thig Lyfe
04-30-2007, 08:55 AM
(Shhhh. Don't tell anyone, but I think Bowe could be a Rookie of the Year candidate. Keep that on the down low.)

Fire Me Boy!
04-30-2007, 09:07 AM
If we cut Parker, we'll be without his 2nd & 1 catch/celebration.

ct
04-30-2007, 09:14 AM
If he starts day 1, with the way the Chiefs play offense I'll say 600-800 around 50-60 catches.....he's more the possession guy so he will get alot of short looks I'm guessing and YAC chances cause he's really good at that.

saving keystrokes, this is exactly what I would expect.

Cochise
04-30-2007, 09:18 AM
I agree with what Mecca was saying. I think 50-60 receptions and 800 yards or so, 4 or 5 TDs would be a good prediction.

It's not like a running back where they either are good right away or they won't be.

FringeNC
04-30-2007, 09:19 AM
Really, the question is whether he is good enough to start as a rookie. Projecting numbers on this offense is almost impossible, especially passing yards.

If he legitimately beats out the other guys, I'll be happy.

OnTheWarpath58
04-30-2007, 09:25 AM
Really, the question is whether he is good enough to start as a rookie. Projecting numbers on this offense is almost impossible, especially passing yards.

If he legitimately beats out the other guys, I'll be happy.

Considering our current WR corp, any WR picked in the first 2 rounds could/should start here. Even Craig Davis.

Interesting we haven't had the usual SD trolls over here to tell us about how great their draft was.....wonder why?

Sure-Oz
04-30-2007, 10:02 AM
Parker sucks

Chiefnj
04-30-2007, 10:06 AM
Considering our current WR corp, any WR picked in the first 2 rounds could/should start here. Even Craig Davis.

Interesting we haven't had the usual SD trolls over here to tell us about how great their draft was.....wonder why?

Craig Davis wasn't a bad pick. A reach for the first round, but he's got better hands than Bowe.

ChiefsCountry
04-30-2007, 10:08 AM
Parker could be a good slot guy IMO. Alot better than Hall.

88TG88
04-30-2007, 11:38 AM
If he starts opening day and Huard is qb i can see a 800-1000 season.

suds79
04-30-2007, 11:43 AM
Parker could be a good slot guy IMO. Alot better than Hall.

I'm sorry but I've never seen anything much from Parker that shows me he should be on the field.

Does he get open? Rarely.
When he does get open, does he catch the ball? Even more rarely.

CupidStunt
04-30-2007, 11:43 AM
'Bout 650 yards, 12 or so ypc. Importantly I think he'll lead the WRs in touchdown catches with 4-6.

Logical
04-30-2007, 11:46 AM
201-400 for his first season. Anything more is a big bonus.

Marlboro_Chief
04-30-2007, 11:57 AM
Set in stone:

74 REC, 1230 YD, 9 TD; NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year

kcchiefsus
04-30-2007, 12:38 PM
Realistically, Kennison is #1, Parker #2, Bowe #3.

Parker stretches the field, and we all know that rookie WR rarely have impact seasons.

I think Bowe will start in 08. Kennison will be gone. Parker may be gone if he doesn't improve in 07.

No way in hell Parker starts. Webb would start over him.

The depth chart will look like this IMO:

Kennison
Bowe
Webb
Parker
Hannon

keg in kc
04-30-2007, 12:44 PM
47 catches for 540 yards, 3 TD

KChiefs1
09-30-2007, 10:08 PM
I thought this was interesting to bump it up....

'Hamas' Jenkins
09-30-2007, 10:12 PM
Seems like the troll had a bead on him..

KCJohnny
09-30-2007, 10:45 PM
47 catches for 540 yards, 3 TD
:hmmm:

He's got the 3 TDs already. Realistically? 90 catches for 1300 yards and 16 TDs. Maybe a PB appearance. This guy is the new Michael Irvin.


Boom.

KCJohnny
09-30-2007, 10:46 PM
201-400 for his first season. Anything more is a big bonus.

ROFL

He's exceeded that by week 4!

Douche Baggins
09-30-2007, 10:47 PM
90 catches is insane.

He's on pace for 72 catches, 1200 yards and 12 TD right now. I'll say he finishes with 75 percent of that :

54 catches, 900 yards, 8 TD.

That's still more than I expected. I was expecting about 45 catches, 700 yards and 5 TD.

Halfcan
09-30-2007, 10:50 PM
Bowe will end up around 1280 yards and 14 TD's-good for O Rookie of the year.

Halfcan
09-30-2007, 10:51 PM
90 catches is insane.

He's on pace for 72 catches, 1200 yards and 12 TD right now. I'll say he finishes with 75 percent of that :

54 catches, 900 yards, 8 TD.

That's still more than I expected. I was expecting about 45 catches, 700 yards and 5 TD.

So he is only going to get 5 TD's the rest of the year??

KCJohnny
09-30-2007, 10:52 PM
90 catches is insane.

He's on pace for 72 catches, 1200 yards and 12 TD right now. I'll say he finishes with 75 percent of that :

54 catches, 900 yards, 8 TD.

That's still more than I expected. I was expecting about 45 catches, 700 yards and 5 TD.

:bong:

Dude, Solari is just discovering what this kid can do. Your assessment is way off.:shake:

Logical
09-30-2007, 10:53 PM
ROFL

He's exceeded that by week 4!And that is fantastic, hey I love what I have seen so far. Kennison's injury was timely.

Douche Baggins
09-30-2007, 10:55 PM
So he is only going to get 5 TD's the rest of the year??

I'm realistic. Just because he has scored 3 TDs in three starts doesn't mean he's going to score one every game. Inevitably, he will get hurt. Or the Chiefs will find themselves in a game where all they do is run, because the defense is kicking ass and we are up by 21. And then there's the rookie wall to consider. Bowe will hit it at some point.

Eight touchdowns is a great season for any rookie.

KCJohnny
09-30-2007, 10:59 PM
I'm realistic. Just because he has scored 3 TDs in three starts doesn't mean he's going to score one every game. Inevitably, he will get hurt. Or the Chiefs will find themselves in a game where all they do is run, because the defense is kicking ass and we are up by 21. And then there's the rookie wall to consider. Bowe will hit it at some point.

Eight touchdowns is a great season for any rookie.

Thou fool!
What other rookie has the luxury of a ball-hawking, shut down defense, and PB TE and RB to get him in 1-on-1 coverage on almost every down? Bowe will have 8 TDs by Thanksgiving and YOU'LL be the turkey.

Extra Point
09-30-2007, 10:59 PM
And that is fantastic, hey I love what I have seen so far. Kennison's injury was timely.

Are you gonna ballbat Parker's kneecaps?

Douche Baggins
09-30-2007, 11:00 PM
Thou fool!
What other rookie has the luxury of a ball-hawking, shut down defense, and PB TE and RB to get him in 1-on-1 coverage on almost every down? Bowe will have 8 TDs by Thanksgiving and YOU'LL be the turkey.

A happy turkey.

Halfcan
09-30-2007, 11:08 PM
I'm realistic. Just because he has scored 3 TDs in three starts doesn't mean he's going to score one every game. Inevitably, he will get hurt. Or the Chiefs will find themselves in a game where all they do is run, because the defense is kicking ass and we are up by 21. And then there's the rookie wall to consider. Bowe will hit it at some point.

Eight touchdowns is a great season for any rookie.

So 12 will be even better.

I think he gets better every game. He reminds me of TO except not a dick.

KCJohnny
09-30-2007, 11:56 PM
So 12 will be even better.

I think he gets better every game. He reminds me of TO except not a dick.

DB will be as good as the QB directing passes in his direction. Huard has laready shown willingness to target Bowe. No one can stop this young man. He will be key to LJ's resurgence. He's better than TO. I am seeing a cross between Michael Irvin and Tamarick Vanover.

Douche Baggins
10-01-2007, 12:01 AM
That's like saying the "hot chick" you're dating is a cross between Carmen Electra and Rosie O'Donnell.

Dick Bull
10-01-2007, 12:28 AM
He will be key to LJ's resurgence. He's better than TO. I am seeing a cross between Michael Irvin and Tamarick Vanover.

So he'll steal some cars while doing coke...............

JohnnyV13
10-01-2007, 01:45 AM
I think Bowe reminds me more of Michael Irvin than TO (if we must compare a rookie to HOF caliber WRs)

Redcoats58
10-01-2007, 02:00 AM
That's like saying the "hot chick" you're dating is a cross between Carmen Electra and Rosie O'Donnell.
That's kinda what I was thinkin', Vanover for christ sakes lol!