PDA

View Full Version : To reaper and ultra


Pages : 1 [2] 3 4

Swanman
05-20-2007, 08:42 PM
For as great as Danielson is I still have no idea what he'd be on the national level.

It's hard to tell because you have to have a fairly long attention span to really appreciate his matches (and a lot of wrestling fans don't have the patience). I first saw Danielson in person when he wrestled Roderick Strong at ROH's "Vendetta" show in a 50+ minute match that a lot of people raved about. About 25-30 minutes in, my girlfriend complained that the match was boring, but then about 15 minutes later she, as well as I, were loving the match. Danielson's very old school (like Steven Regal, who I believe had a hand in training him), so for people that like that style, he's awesome but for those that just like roided-up freaks (creative at WWE) or spot-fests, he wouldn't be as popular.

With that said, I can't wait until June 23rd, when I'm in the second row to see Danielson vs. Kenta at ROH's second PPV taping in Chicago. The Briscoes are also going against El Generico and Kevin Steen in a rematch of their classic match from a few months ago.

Reaper16
05-20-2007, 09:11 PM
With that said, I can't wait until June 23rd, when I'm in the second row to see Danielson vs. Kenta at ROH's second PPV taping in Chicago. The Briscoes are also going against El Generico and Kevin Steen in a rematch of their classic match from a few months ago.
Wow. I should head up to Chicago for that.

Reaper16
05-20-2007, 09:26 PM
From what I gather, the St. Louis crowd for Judgment Day was absolutely terrible. They started a "JBL" chant for no reason during the Punk/Burke match, and chanted "Boring" during the Benoit/MVP match.

The way the main event ended, also, was just plain stupid. I'm flabbergasted, frankly.

unothadeal
05-21-2007, 01:06 AM
From what I gather, the St. Louis crowd for Judgment Day was absolutely terrible. They started a "JBL" chant for no reason during the Punk/Burke match, and chanted "Boring" during the Benoit/MVP match.

The way the main event ended, also, was just plain stupid. I'm flabbergasted, frankly.
That is all true. All you missed was HBK's overracting and match full of Ric Flair chops.

Ultra Peanut
05-21-2007, 02:22 AM
ONE TWO
You hear the clock tickin'
TICK TOCK
You about to stop livin'
TICK TOCK
I want you to remember me
TICK TOCK
But the dead don't have no memory
I'M COMIN'
http://i5.tinypic.com/6gjcad4.jpg

That was a surprisingly solid PPV, with the Punk-Burke and MVP-Benoit matches really shining. Toss in Murdoch pulling out a gorgeous <strike>Canadian</strike> Texan Destroyer in a nice tag match, Edge retaining in cheap but strong-ish fashion, and the angle-, injury-, and burial-oriented matches being short but well-executed. Not an amazing PPV by any stretch, but not too shabby.

Of course, I say this without having watched the John Hogan-GRREEARHGRGHRGHRGHRHGRHG match. I can't wait to see him take down that monster Snitsky, though!

The crowd was indeed shitty, and I honestly got pissed off by the retards chanting at JBL during one of the best matches of the night.

Ultra Peanut
05-21-2007, 02:33 AM
With that said, I can't wait until June 23rd, when I'm in the second row to see Danielson vs. Kenta at ROH's second PPV taping in Chicago. The Briscoes are also going against El Generico and Kevin Steen in a rematch of their classic match from a few months ago.I envy the people lucky enough to be in ROHlandia.

I'm going to Slammiversary in Nashville next month. TNA's retarded, but there should be at least a couple of matches that make it worthwhile.

Also, another reason wrestling is awesome:

My one really big gripe for the night? The whole goddamn crowd was a collection of the trashiest ****ing people on Earth. From the 40 year old trailer park mom 2 rows behind me who kept yelling "Bullshit!" while her four "younguns" ran up and down the aisles to the guy sitting in front of me who I thought was wearing a Hulkamania shirt until I realized the red and yellow were just the unfortunate splatters of ketchup and mustard which failed to make their way into his beefy gullet on top of his fifth hotdog.

And every goddamn one had a Cena shirt, hat, dog tag, wristband, or goddamn immi-****ing-tation 100% genuine World Heavyweight Rapadoo Spiina belt.

One of the highlights of my evening was (I shit you not) listening to a retarded (as in a "helmet, keeper, not-quite-downy" retarded) argue with a hoosier (it means trailer trash in St. Louis) about whether Khali could beat Cena or not. Once it was finally decided that Cena could beat Khali, the redneck made the mistake of telling the retarded that wrestling was fake.

Oh, that went well. I spent the entire Hardys/Cade & Murdoch match giggling over such gems as "Nuh-uh! How you think John Cena can hit a 5-knuckle shuffle on somebody on their head and they don't hurt? That's real!"LMAO

Reaper16
05-21-2007, 01:26 PM
http://www.dailymotion.com/pepe007/video/x21i4q_cm-punk-vs-elijah-burke

Punk/Burke match if anyone cares to view.

Reaper16
05-21-2007, 01:29 PM
Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr-abadoooooooooo!!!
*duhn dahn duhn dah
dahn dah dunh dah*

I've somehow managed to be less excited for the coming Cena/Snitsky feud than I was for Cena/Giant Gonzales. One thought: how is anyone supposed to credibly beat Cena now, ever? He made Khali tap! Ugh.

Ultra Peanut
05-21-2007, 01:43 PM
http://www.dailymotion.com/pepe007/video/x21i4q_cm-punk-vs-elijah-burke

Punk/Burke match if anyone cares to view.I just love that shot of the retarded kid clapping after Punker went outside with a plancha.

Also, here's Hardy Menz vs. the Noble Rednecks (not to be confused with this guy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamie_Noble)):

http://www.dailymotion.com/pepe007/video/x21j5y_the-hardys-vs-cade-and-murdoch-jd-0

Reaper16
05-21-2007, 02:16 PM
I just love that shot of the retarded kid clapping after Punker went outside with a plancha.

Also, here's Hardy Menz vs. the Noble Rednecks (not to be confused with this guy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamie_Noble)):

http://www.dailymotion.com/pepe007/video/x21j5y_the-hardys-vs-cade-and-murdoch-jd-0
Cole: "And here's the rough and tumble, in your mouth Trevor Murdoch."

Reaper16
05-21-2007, 02:28 PM
I like Murdoch. You'd never guess that he and his beer belly could pull that move off. Plus, it's exciting -- some days it'll be a Canadian Destroyer, some days it'll be a Yoshi Tonic, others it'll be botched (like when Matt Hardy is involved). You nver know what you're getting.

jidar
05-21-2007, 03:07 PM
so who would win in a fight, Wolverine or Freddy Krueger?

Reaper16
05-21-2007, 03:24 PM
so who would win in a fight, Wolverine or Freddy Krueger?
Wolverine. Sure, Freddy could do some inane bullshit with his dream powers, but most likely Freddy would get scared at the shit Logan's seen.

Ultra Peanut
05-21-2007, 06:17 PM
so who would win in a fight, Wolverine or Freddy Krueger?Benoit.

Ultra Peanut
05-22-2007, 06:57 AM
I HOPE YOU CHOKE ON YOUR APPLE!

Ultra Peanut
05-22-2007, 01:02 PM
http://i9.tinypic.com/644gp39.gif

Reaper16
05-22-2007, 01:05 PM
I HOPE YOU CHOKE ON YOUR APPLE!
That lady in the brown HBK shirt was hilarious. I was watching her most of the show.

Mecca
05-23-2007, 01:34 PM
8 years to the day that Owen Hart died and we get...

Jill Jarrett, the wife of Jeff, passed away last night.

While we don't have a lot of details, she had been battling cancer on-and-off for many years and her health issues had gotten worse over the past two months.

For the past many weeks, Jeff had been by her side virtually 24/7. When she was hospitalized, he had been practically living in the hospital, and when he had to do TVs, he would stay with her as long as possible, they fly from Nashville or Orlando, do his segments early, and then he would rush back that night.

While most in TNA were aware of her situation to a degree and could readily see what was happening, he only talked in detail to a few people, such as Don West, hence some of West's comments on the air on television. I think some could see this, but the first interview Jeff did on the air when he came back was very emotional for him, for Mike Tenay conducting it and for West at the desk.

Jeff has young children and being someone in that same situation, I could only imagine what he's been going through during this ordeal. I simply couldn't imagine anything that could be worse.

We send our deepest sympathies to Jeff and his children.

Ultra Peanut
05-23-2007, 07:06 PM
Now it's time to play "Fun With SeeqPod!"

<embed src="http://www.seeqpod.com/music/seeqpodEmbed.swf" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" flashvars="playlistXMLPath=http://www.seeqpod.com/api/music/getPlaylist?playlist_id=ef3e3ed371"></embed><br/><a href="http://www.seeqpod.com/music">SeeqPod Music beta - Playable Search</a>

Sucks about Double J's wife. :(

Mecca
05-23-2007, 11:29 PM
Jarrett's kids aren't nearly as old as you'd expect for how long he's been around....

Ultra Peanut
05-23-2007, 11:36 PM
http://i11.tinypic.com/4zk9x85.jpg

Mother****ER!

Well, crisis preemptively averted:

http://i10.tinypic.com/6cxc8z9.jpg

Mecca
05-23-2007, 11:45 PM
WTF are you playing EWR?

Ultra Peanut
05-24-2007, 12:53 AM
EWR++ (TEW 2007). It's a really nice improvement.

The hours FLY by when you're playing it, though.

Ultra Peanut
05-24-2007, 05:59 PM
I'm currently playing TEW with the abysmal Wrestlemania 13 on for background noise. Rocky just beat the Sultan with a rollup.

Oh God, that was an hour ago. This game does something very weird to the space-time continuum. Owen :( and Davey Boy :( just retained via Count Out loss against Mankind and Vader!

Awesome, the Hart-Austin "I Quit" match is up next.

Mecca
05-24-2007, 06:51 PM
Isn't that the game that costs money.......

Ultra Peanut
05-24-2007, 10:16 PM
... yeah.

Oh snap, I just found one of my old Nitro tapes.

"My name is Fit Finley, and Eddie Guerrero just walked out on our match! Where's my damn leprechaun?!"

unothadeal
05-24-2007, 10:20 PM
If anyone's looking for some classic WWF matches, I found this:

http://www.oldschoolwwf.com/

Ultra Peanut
05-25-2007, 06:38 PM
Hahahahaha, Edge and Hornswaggle!

Ultra Peanut
05-25-2007, 07:50 PM
OH COME ON WHAT THE **** THIS ISN'T SMACKDOWN

First Kurt wins the title and has to drop it the next night due to a hernia; now this:

Reaper16
05-26-2007, 01:14 AM
Well, it does look like he;s tying his arms off for a drug injection. He must have contracted the disease from the needle.

Ultra Peanut
05-26-2007, 08:34 AM
TEW is harsh. At least he didn't pull a Balls and Axl, though. Evidently, they were partying a little too hard, because they both ODed on the same night. Just another [couple of wrestlers] dead.

Reaper16
05-26-2007, 10:39 AM
<object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/3EhDdCMWAa4"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/3EhDdCMWAa4" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"></embed></object>

Reaper16
05-26-2007, 10:44 AM
<object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/WTevq_yiqZQ"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/WTevq_yiqZQ" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"></embed></object>

Ultra Peanut
05-26-2007, 11:17 AM
It goes without saying, but goddamn, Kennedy and Punk are amazing. Really good (long) interview with Joey Mercury:

http://www.f4wonline.com/free/051107dks.mp3

He's definitely not who I thought he was.I just now listened to this. Thanks.

keg in kc
05-26-2007, 02:10 PM
John Cena did one of his rare indy showings last night, working as a ref at a charity show for Chaotic Wresling (his dad's a manager there) when, believe it or not, Vince McMahon did a run-in, and got FU'd.

Yes, that's right, this is video of Cena FU'ing Vince, last night, an a Byfield, Massachussetts HIGH SCHOOL GYM. :eek:

<object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/29AT7rKJpVI"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/29AT7rKJpVI" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"></embed></object>

Mecca
05-26-2007, 05:34 PM
I got a better debate.........let's discuss when Dave Meltzer went nuts and made me hate him and his newsletter.

Ultra Peanut
05-26-2007, 07:59 PM
John Cena did one of his rare indy showings last night, working as a ref at a charity show for Chaotic Wresling (his dad's a manager there) when, believe it or not, Vince McMahon did a run-in, and got FU'd.

Yes, that's right, this is video of Cena FU'ing Vince, last night, an a Byfield, Massachussetts HIGH SCHOOL GYM. :eek:Are you sure this wasn't a very special episode of Heat? The production qualities just seem too good...

Seriously, though. That is extremely cool on their part.

keg in kc
05-26-2007, 08:00 PM
Yeah, I thought that was cool, too. Never thought I'd see Vince appear at an indy show.

keg in kc
05-27-2007, 03:34 PM
Looks like there's about to be a roster shake-up in the wwe.

If you check the USA Network schedule for June 11 (http://www.usanetwork.com/schedules/sched.php?sdate=6/11/2007&switch=2) you'll see a 3-hour block called "RAW PRESENTS: THE WWE DRAFT SPECIAL".

Mecca
05-27-2007, 03:44 PM
Looks like there's about to be a roster shake-up in the wwe.

If you check the USA Network schedule for June 11 (http://www.usanetwork.com/schedules/sched.php?sdate=6/11/2007&switch=2) you'll see a 3-hour block called "RAW PRESENTS: THE WWE DRAFT SPECIAL".

Oh great.......they're about to show you that only Raw matters by moving guys of value off or Smackdown due to HBK and HHH being injured.

Ultra Peanut
05-27-2007, 08:13 PM
Here comes CM Punk to claim the Double Double E Championsip! It spins!

Also, "YOU BOTH SUCK! YOU BOTH SUCK!"

<object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/7M1txB_2Zdg"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/7M1txB_2Zdg" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"></embed></object>

keg in kc
05-27-2007, 08:51 PM
"Change the channel! Change the channel!"

It's kind of sad that that's to this day the highest-rated show on scifi.

Ultra Peanut
05-27-2007, 08:53 PM
Seriously. There's juuuust enough (read: Punk and Burke) to keep me watching every week, but only just. Even the ECW title is being fought over on Raw.

keg in kc
05-27-2007, 09:05 PM
I liked Punk a lot more before they started the whole weird 'push him for two weeks, bury him for a month' thing. They did to him what TNA did to Samoa Joe. Made him mortal. Stupid move in my book. Making him job out to Bob f*cking Holly. :shake:

Funny, too, how they basically just made Burke the mouthpiece for Turkay for all that time, then dropped that guy out of the blue and turned Burke into the semi-main-eventer on ECW.

Ultra Peanut
05-27-2007, 09:13 PM
Punk's being treated just fine, really. He's being pushed as a true star-in-the-making, and he almost always comes off looking great. They like to push guys and then hold back on them, as a way of testing their commitment, but Punk's brief de-push wasn't even all that noticeable, especially when compared to guys like Carlito (he bears some of the blame, of course) and Shelton (he's just getting screwed, quite frankly).

My biggest complaint is that, instead of stretching out his heel "turn" a little and maybe giving him a couple of matches against RVD or something, they pulled a TNA and had the turn and de-turn occur in the blink of an eye.

Now, TNA and Joe... hoooo boy, do they ever know how to take powerhouses and superstars and piss it all away. Angle? Just another guy. Joe? Just another guy. Sting? Just another guy. Christian? Just another guy. Styles? Daniels? Who? They're trying to put everyone over, but they're bungling it to the point where they're putting no one over.

keg in kc
05-27-2007, 09:41 PM
Punk's fine if they don't do him like they're doing Johnny Nitro. Can't remember the last time I saw that guy on TV. From intercontinental champ to...oblivion.

Personally, I think Punk would be better as a heel anyway. I love his whole 'better than you' ROH run. Hell, the guy (Sandman I mean) can't do shit in the ring, but imagine what they could do with Sandman against Punk, drinker vs. straight-edge. Crowds would eat that shit up. I never got why they're using him as a face. He would've been perfect in an old ECW/new ECW feud with that guy. Take a few cane shots here or there, outsmart and get outsmarted.

He's still over, but nothing like it was before December to Dis(re)member.

Ultra Peanut
05-27-2007, 09:58 PM
Oh, God. Nitro is even more forgotten than Kenny Daulton at this point. It makes no sense.

Seeing Punker feud with RVD and Sandman for a bit would have been great, but I'm hoping that they're just trying to save the "better than you" Punk for when he's a bit more high profile and he can really soak in the hatred.

Bowser
05-27-2007, 10:06 PM
Bah! Give me the "good ol' days"!

<object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/EkI_1Q-vFAA"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/EkI_1Q-vFAA" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"></embed></object>

keg in kc
05-27-2007, 10:07 PM
Oh, God. Nitro is even more forgotten than Kenny Daulton at this point. It makes no sense.Oh yeah, what've they done with him.

I've heard some talk they want to push Masters, but they're spent the last year having him job to everybody, so that'll never go over, either.

I honestly don't know what they're going to do. Hopefully the rash of injuries will let guys like Kenny and Nitro and Punk and (blech) Kennedy and Burke start to become the future of the company. It's times like these in the past that've led to guys like Edge getting face time they never would have otherwise. Maybe they move Blaster Lashley back to one of the main shows, although you know he's getting the ECW belt back in a week, and then starting a program with Zitsky.


Cena's got to lose sometime, too. He'll be pushing HHH's reign of doom by the end of the year. But there's nobody to put the strap on. Khali? Christ, I hope not.

Mecca
05-27-2007, 11:08 PM
Nitro's getting buried because everyone hates his G/F and they can't punish her so they take it out on him.

keg in kc
05-27-2007, 11:23 PM
Nitro's getting buried because everyone hates his G/F and they can't punish her so they take it out on him.It's really interesting the way they're handling her. She's lucky they don't have another capable female heel on the roster.

Mecca
05-27-2007, 11:27 PM
If anything I hope for Kenny and Nitro to go to Smackdown........the writers for that show could likely make them into something where as the Raw crew just focuses on the same 5 guys and could give a shit about anything else.

Ultra Peanut
05-28-2007, 12:52 AM
If anything I hope for Kenny and Nitro to go to Smackdown........the writers for that show could likely make them into something where as the Raw crew just focuses on the same 5 guys and could give a shit about anything else.Indeed. It blows my mind that Michael ****ing Hayes is the primary guy who's making Smackdown what it is, because it just seems so counter-intuitive.

Anyways, if anyone can find video footage of this, please share it:

"In a segment said to be hilarious live, (Elix) Skipper was talking trash and challenging Goldberg. Goldberg came out behind Skipper. Skipper keeps turning and Goldberg keeps adjusting his position so Skipper can't see him. All of this is on the big screen, which Skipper is looking right at, and can see Goldberg behind him, but because they didn't consider this when making the angle, he had to pretend" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: October 23, 2000

This list (http://board.deathvalleydriver.com/index.php?showtopic=294&st=0) is just amazing.

Swanman
05-28-2007, 11:58 AM
It's really interesting the way they're handling her. She's lucky they don't have another capable female heel on the roster.

I saw they just released Beth Phoenix, who is a great in-ring performer. Hopefully she'll end up back in Shimmer (ROH's sister promotion). Shimmer's roster, wrestling-wise, ranks at about a 9, while WWE ranks about a 2.5 (2.499999999 of which is due to Alexis Laree). They obviously aren't as hot, but if I want to see hot women rolling around, I'll watch porn.

'Hamas' Jenkins
05-28-2007, 12:02 PM
Why the hell did they release Beth Phoenix? She's a better worker than anyone else on the roster, save for maybe Victoria and Mickie.

keg in kc
05-28-2007, 01:26 PM
I don't know wtf wwe is doing with their divas. A week or two ago there was a 'conservative dress' mandate, supposed to be the end of the skimpy clothes, but I can't for the life of me see any difference so far. I thought maybe they were trying to move away from models back to in-ring work, but I guess not.

Mecca
05-28-2007, 04:20 PM
I don't know wtf wwe is doing with their divas. A week or two ago there was a 'conservative dress' mandate, supposed to be the end of the skimpy clothes, but I can't for the life of me see any difference so far. I thought maybe they were trying to move away from models back to in-ring work, but I guess not.

They nixed that, it only lasted for about a week.

Alot of firings now are coming from Stephanie as she has taken over the head of talent.

Behind the scenes, Stephanie McMahon, was never a fan of her. She felt as though that she didn't have the "WWE Diva look" due to her inherit bulkiness.

-- Wrestling Observer Newsletter

However Beth disputes that she's been fired on her myspace saying it isn't true.

keg in kc
05-28-2007, 04:29 PM
Yeah, Ariel being one of Paul Heyman's picks didn't help her at all, either. Stephanie's really doing a number right now.

Just read some draft stuff on prowrestling.com:-- As we reported yesterday, the draft lottery will be making its return on RAW in two weeks. There has been a lot of internal talk about moving Benoit to either RAW or ECW. Regal has been making a push for his move to RAW, as he wants to move away from tag team action. Mr. Kennedy was also rumored to make a move to RAW, but is doubtful. He is expected to feud with Edge upon his return. Another name expected to move to RAW is King Booker.

Ultra Peanut
05-28-2007, 05:44 PM
Nitro's getting buried because everyone hates his G/F and they can't punish her so they take it out on him.WWE is basically a high school.

And yeah, the Beth Phoenix thing was fortunately just a rumor.

Not that she or Victoria will ever get any TV time when compared to the likes of Candace Michelle (who, admittedly, has greatly improved) or the other whores who make up the ranks of "divas." Well, the whores and Mickie.

keg in kc
05-28-2007, 05:46 PM
Candace Michelle (who, admittedly, has greatly improved) It's amazing how far she's come.

Victoria's problem is her personality. I love watching her in the ring, though.

Mecca
05-28-2007, 05:50 PM
Victoria is 36......how many people are aware of that?

source: Wrestling Observer Newsletter


Shelly "Ariel" Martinez's release was a bit of a surprise to most since she was on television weekly. The main reason given for her release was that the people making the decisions didn't think she had "the right look," which is kind of a nice way of saying that she wasn't pretty enough in the eyes of one Vincent Kennedy McMahon.

McMahon was negative on using her from the start because she didn't have the typical model look that he likes. However, Paul Heyman sold him on her because she did a good job playing her gimmick while she was in Ohio Valley Wresling. When Heyman left, she lost her biggest supporter, although she managed to stick around for several more months. Also, Vince doesn't understand "goth" characters, so that didn't help her cause. However, it looks like Kevin Thorn will be staying on the roster in his role, which kind of makes this release all the more surprising.

Stephanie McMahon's rise to power caused all the marginal talent to be re-evaluated, and that's why a bunch of talent were let go in a matter of days. Also, she wasn't warm to any idea that originally came from underneath the balding scalp of Paul Heyman, Big Steph's arch nemesis. So well, that definitely didn't help Ariel's cause either.

There were some reports last week that Ariel's release was due to an incident with Batista at the SmackDown tapings in Baltimore. Sources saying that they had an argument, but she wasn't released due to the specific incident, although it probably didn't help matters.

The deal with Batista is that he's the "starting quarterback on the football team" and WWE consists of a bunch of people who are still living in high school. Batista is a star, gets tons of women while on the road, and is very outspoken at times, especially at some of the women on the roster. Most of the women on the roster don't say anything back to him, but in the WWE environment, it doesn't matter who is right or who is wrong whenever a conflict may arise, all that matters is who is higher up on the totem pole. In Martinez's case, the story goes that Batista tried to pull something on her, and she would have nothing of it. She made some comments back to Batista, which probably was a bad move politically. In the WWE environment, he's seen as a big star, and she's just seen as easily replaceable eye candy.

'Hamas' Jenkins
05-28-2007, 06:04 PM
Victoria is 36......how many people are aware of that?

source: Wrestling Observer Newsletter


Shelly "Ariel" Martinez's release was a bit of a surprise to most since she was on television weekly. The main reason given for her release was that the people making the decisions didn't think she had "the right look," which is kind of a nice way of saying that she wasn't pretty enough in the eyes of one Vincent Kennedy McMahon.


Melina isn't exactly stunning either, and her mic and in-ring work are both lacking.


McMahon was negative on using her from the start because she didn't have the typical model look that he likes. However, Paul Heyman sold him on her because she did a good job playing her gimmick while she was in Ohio Valley Wresling. When Heyman left, she lost her biggest supporter, although she managed to stick around for several more months. Also, Vince doesn't understand "goth" characters, so that didn't help her cause. However, it looks like Kevin Thorn will be staying on the roster in his role, which kind of makes this release all the more surprising.

How ****ing long did Gangrel hang around?


Stephanie McMahon's rise to power caused all the marginal talent to be re-evaluated, and that's why a bunch of talent were let go in a matter of days. Also, she wasn't warm to any idea that originally came from underneath the balding scalp of Paul Heyman, Big Steph's arch nemesis. So well, that definitely didn't help Ariel's cause either.


There's nothing better than a company managing itself through pettiness. Steph is completely incompetent.



There were some reports last week that Ariel's release was due to an incident with Batista at the SmackDown tapings in Baltimore. Sources saying that they had an argument, but she wasn't released due to the specific incident, although it probably didn't help matters.

The deal with Batista is that he's the "starting quarterback on the football team" and WWE consists of a bunch of people who are still living in high school. Batista is a star, gets tons of women while on the road, and is very outspoken at times, especially at some of the women on the roster. Most of the women on the roster don't say anything back to him, but in the WWE environment, it doesn't matter who is right or who is wrong whenever a conflict may arise, all that matters is who is higher up on the totem pole. In Martinez's case, the story goes that Batista tried to pull something on her, and she would have nothing of it. She made some comments back to Batista, which probably was a bad move politically. In the WWE environment, he's seen as a big star, and she's just seen as easily replaceable eye candy.


God I hate Batista. The guy can't talk, he's a terrible worker, a prick backstage, he's old, he's not even that over anymore, and he's a huge injury risk.

Why again would he be the star QB??

Ridiculous.

unothadeal
05-28-2007, 08:11 PM
God I hate Batista. The guy can't talk, he's a terrible worker, a prick backstage, he's old, he's not even that over anymore, and he's a huge injury risk.

Why again would he be the star QB??

Ridiculous.
Same here. And yet they keep putting him over and giving him title shots. Mark Henry and Kane had a great shot at a title run but they insisted on giving it to Batista.

'Hamas' Jenkins
05-28-2007, 08:30 PM
That 8 man tag match tonight was awesome. Hardy's conventional & inverted DDT spot was solid

Mickey looked unbelievably hot tonight. I don't get SD, so I haven't really seen Michelle McCool...she's hot as balls as well.

The Orton-RVD match had me cracking up. I like both guys a lot. It was a pretty good match for free TV, but RVDs selling of the concussion was f*cking hilarious, as was the uber-heelish RKO-post match.

I like the way they are building up Orton as a sadistic heel, and he was quite over in Canada (admittedly bizarro world).

unothadeal
05-28-2007, 08:35 PM
That 8 man tag match tonight was awesome. Hardy's conventional & inverted DDT spot was solid

Mickey looked unbelievably hot tonight. I don't get SD, so I haven't really seen Michelle McCool...she's hot as balls as well.

The Orton-RVD match had me cracking up. I like both guys a lot. It was a pretty good match for free TV, but RVDs selling of the concussion was f*cking hilarious, as was the uber-heelish RKO-post match.

I like the way they are building up Orton as a sadistic heel, and he was quite over in Canada (admittedly bizarro world).
Ohhhh! I forgot it was in Toronto tonight. I might have to stalk some hotels :p

Mecca
05-28-2007, 08:54 PM
They taped SNME before this and apparently Cena was booed out of the building and got chants of "you can't wrestle"

Mecca
05-28-2007, 10:23 PM
WWE has banned the shooting star press and the 450 splash. SmackDown superstar Paul London did a shooting star plancha which wasn’t technically illegal, but Vince McMahon told him if he did it again he would fire him on the spot. -Lordsofpain.net

unothadeal
05-28-2007, 10:33 PM
This is the reason he's in my avatar. Doesn't get much better than this.

<object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/tN-0_slGM78"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/tN-0_slGM78" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"></embed></object>

<object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/bQPsUa9cJc8"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/bQPsUa9cJc8" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"></embed></object>

Ultra Peanut
05-28-2007, 10:35 PM
They taped SNME before this and apparently Cena was booed out of the building and got chants of "you can't wrestle"That massive "CENA SUCKS!" chant tonight was amazing. God, I love Canadian crowds.

unothadeal
05-28-2007, 10:36 PM
That massive "CENA SUCKS!" chant tonight was amazing. God, I love Canadian crowds.
Except the whole "You Screwed Bret" thing is getting a little old.

Mecca
05-28-2007, 10:37 PM
That massive "CENA SUCKS!" chant tonight was amazing. God, I love Canadian crowds.

I know you linked the DVDVR board earlier......do you actually enjoy that board?

Cause I hate it, it's like the twilight zone of psuedo marks. Go on that board and make a comment about how you personally don't like Cena and they'll jump your ass like you're stupid and don't get wrestling....

But they'll turn around and praise guys like Mark Henry........I seriously hate that board......it's like the new smark is being a mark.

Ultra Peanut
05-28-2007, 10:41 PM
Heh. From someone who was there:

Also, just wanted to add one more thing. After RAW went off the air, Lashley got real mad at Cena for losing the match. We then go to see the one true Tampion destroy Cena with a Dominator. Cena really got a lot of heat, and any mention of Shawn Michaels was hissed at as well. I guess Canada still hasn't forgotten about the screwjob. RAW was alright, boring at times, but it was nice to finally go to a show where Cena didn't come out on top in the end.It will be 2097, and people in Canada will still be livid about the Screwjob. LMAO

Ultra Peanut
05-28-2007, 10:47 PM
I know you linked the DVDVR board earlier......do you actually enjoy that board?

Cause I hate it, it's like the twilight zone of psuedo marks. Go on that board and make a comment about how you personally don't like Cena and they'll jump your ass like you're stupid and don't get wrestling....DVDVR goes bananas over the antithesis of what I like, and there's this odd sort of elitism that seeps through at times, but I read threads here and there and enjoy the non-WORKRATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! splooging stuff reasonably enough. I mean, they're fairly intelligent and coherent, in general, so it's not a pain to filter through it or anything.

I wouldn't post there, though.

But they'll turn around and praise guys like Mark Henry........I seriously hate that board......it's like the new smark is being a mark.That's what I meant with the elitism. They bag on smarks for thinking they know more than everyone else while elevating themselves above the smarks because... they appreciate what the smarks can't, or something. It's kind of funny, really, and I guess they're entitled to their tastes.

I have to admit, though, I have to occasionally remind myself it's not all a big joke when I read some of the opinions on there.

Mecca
05-28-2007, 10:47 PM
Tons of people don't like Michaels in general.........I personally have no issues with the guy for the most part.

keg in kc
05-28-2007, 10:47 PM
Anybody who enjoyed Cena not "coming out on top in the end" tonight is going to be really, really, really, really disappointed come Sunday, I think it's safe to say.

Mecca
05-28-2007, 10:49 PM
DVDVR goes bananas over the antithesis of what I like, and there's this odd sort of elitism that seeps through at times, but I read threads here and there and enjoy the non-WORKRATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! splooging stuff reasonably enough. I mean, they're fairly intelligent and coherent, in general, so it's not a pain to filter through it or anything.

I wouldn't post there, though.

That's what I meant with the elitism. They bag on smarks for thinking they know more than everyone else while elevating themselves above the smarks because... they appreciate what the smarks can't, or something. It's kind of funny, really, and I guess they're entitled to their tastes.

"But he draws money, you're stupid you don't get it"

It's like you aren't entitled to your opinion over there.........I like workrate and I like move guys. That's just me, hey in the beginning of this decade Austin and Rock were making tons of money I still wanted Jericho to get pushed cause I personally dug the guy.

I don't like Cena not cause I think he's awful but because I'm just completely sick of him.

Mecca
05-28-2007, 10:50 PM
Anybody who enjoyed Cena not "coming out on top in the end" tonight is going to be really, really, really, really disappointed come Sunday, I think it's safe to say.

I've adopted this thought.....I don't believe he's ever losing till I see it with my own eyes. They've basically fed their entire roster to him.......he's like 10 times worse than Triple H was when he always had the belt......

Ultra Peanut
05-28-2007, 10:59 PM
Anybody who enjoyed Cena not "coming out on top in the end" tonight is going to be really, really, really, really disappointed come Sunday, I think it's safe to say.Honestly, I pretty much marked out at Shane O Mac getting the pin in as clean a fashion as a 3 on 2 handicap match can have, and the fact that Cena actually lost made it all the better. That being said, I harbor no illusions about Cena actually losing at the PPV, and that's really my biggest problem with Cena in general. There's no mystery whatsoever. Cena's going to win, and he's going to look like Superman doing it, and that's just the way it's going to be for a while to come. It's so ****ing boring, and it's impossible to get anyone feeling engaged by him when he's so untouchable.

"But he draws money, you're stupid you don't get it"

It's like you aren't entitled to your opinion over there.........I like workrate and I like move guys. That's just me, hey in the beginning of this decade Austin and Rock were making tons of money I still wanted Jericho to get pushed cause I personally dug the guy.

I don't like Cena not cause I think he's awful but because I'm just completely sick of him.Exactly. By all accounts, Cena's a great guy who loves the business. He's a solid wrestler, and he deserves success. I don't hate him because he sucks, I hate him because a Cena win is even more of a foregone conclusion when he steps into a PPV than a cheap win when Hollywood Hogan was fighting WCW's best and brightest.

Speaking of Shawn Michaels, the DVDVR guys have an astonishing hatred of the guy. Sure, he's a "self-promoting" seller, but god damn, it's entertaining. I haven't seen their reactions specifically regarding the Hogan match at Summerslam, but I bet it was completely the opposite of mine (which was "LAFFO!").

'Hamas' Jenkins
05-28-2007, 11:01 PM
I tried TSM boards for a while, and didn't much care for them either. Much of what Mecca says is true there as well. It's like it's chic to like Cena now b/c most of the crowd is giving him X-Pac heat.

Personally, I don't like Michaels, but it's not just from the screwjob. It's the backstage politicking--even to this day.

He and Triple H can tear all the quads and ACLs in the world for all I care.

keg in kc
05-28-2007, 11:04 PM
I've adopted this thought.....I don't believe he's ever losing till I see it with my own eyes. They've basically fed their entire roster to him.......he's like 10 times worse than Triple H was when he always had the belt......I've read a number of places that he's about 6 months away from equalling the reign of doom, and he's now like #6 on the all-time WWE title reign list. And he's only 30.

I didn't like Cena for the longest time, and I'm not a mark now, but I don't have a problem with him. I don't know who else should have the title on that show right now. They need to establish some contenders, and that's going to take time.

Mecca
05-28-2007, 11:05 PM
The only reason Michaels gets more of a pass with me than H is Michaels is still a good worker.........H isn't.

I still post at the smart marks that board isn't to bad.

keg in kc
05-28-2007, 11:10 PM
Michaels has carried raw in 2007, and I have a lot of respect for that. I don't particularly like his character or his politics, but his in-ring work is the best, bar none. He makes everybody look good.

I think with the injuries, the next 6 months is either going to be the most interesting and entertaining time in wrestling in the last decade, or the absolute, abysmal worst pile of week-to-week shit I've ever had to sit through. Hopefully they find the next generation of stars.

'Hamas' Jenkins
05-28-2007, 11:13 PM
I just have this sick feeling that they're going to spend years building up Cena into Hogan only to have him job clean to a guy like Rodimer, and the guys like Kennedy, Edge, Orton, etc. will end up being the DiBiase's and Jake Roberts' of this generation.

Mecca
05-28-2007, 11:13 PM
Michaels has carried raw in 2007, and I have a lot of respect for that. I don't particularly like his character or his politics, but his in-ring work is the best, bar none. He makes everybody look good.

I think with the injuries, the next 6 months is either going to be the most interesting and entertaining time in wrestling in the last decade, or the absolute, abysmal worst pile of week-to-week shit I've ever had to sit through. Hopefully they find the next generation of stars.

Well they won't find them on Raw because booking on that show is basically "we book everything around these 5 guys everyone else be damned"

They have to completely shake everything up because they fed everyone to Cena.........they're going to Smackdown to bring over more guys to feed to Cena.

Cena needs to put someone over.......right now he has no foil. Rock and HHH put each other over repeatedly right now Cena is basically owning everyone and there's no end in sight.

Mecca
05-28-2007, 11:15 PM
I just have this sick feeling that they're going to spend years building up Cena into Hogan only to have him job clean to a guy like Rodimer, and the guys like Kennedy, Edge, Orton, etc. will end up being the DiBiase's and Jake Roberts' of this generation.

Cena's younger than Edge is........so by that logic I guess you could say having him put over Edge is counterproductive.

I won't believe they'll job Cena till I see it with my own eyes, I seriously think all they care about is making John Cena the it guy no matter what and nothing else.

Ultra Peanut
05-28-2007, 11:19 PM
I just have this sick feeling that they're going to spend years building up Cena into Hogan only to have him job clean to a guy like Rodimer, and the guys like Kennedy, Edge, Orton, etc. will end up being the DiBiase's and Jake Roberts' of this generation.No way Orton pulls a Jake Roberts. He has far too much moral fiber for something like that.

blaze of glory

'Hamas' Jenkins
05-28-2007, 11:19 PM
Well they won't find them on Raw because booking on that show is basically "we book everything around these 5 guys everyone else be damned"

They have to completely shake everything up because they fed everyone to Cena.........they're going to Smackdown to bring over more guys to feed to Cena.

Cena needs to put someone over.......right now he has no foil. Rock and HHH put each other over repeatedly right now Cena is basically owning everyone and there's no end in sight.

I still don't foresee him losing clean for the rest of this decade.

keg in kc
05-28-2007, 11:20 PM
I don't think that's something you can put on Cena's shoulders, though. He had a great feud virtually all of '06 with Edge. Problem is...there's only one Edge. Who else is there? Michaels might have had a payoff eventually. But after that? Umaga? Lashley's destroyed him (and Cena, of course...). Khali? Even if they didn't have Cena slay the giant, can you imagine how bad a Khali title reign would be? And that's really it. They only have monsters. There's no legit heels. Can't be Orton, he's put himself in purgatory.

Hell, best thing to do might be to turn Cena, himself, but are they going to risk merchandise sales to the under-18 crowd?

But...who? That's the big problem. There's no top talent. In any 'brand'. That's not Cena's fault. And I have no earthly idea what they can do about it. There's a dearth of in-ring talent. There's a dearth of on-camera talent. It's a company full of midcarders. That's why guys like Lashley and Big Dave are main eventers. Thank god for Edge, I can't imagine how bad it would be without him on the air. 'course he's been hurt all year, too.

Good thing is, people have the opportunity to make their move now. Hopefully some step up.

'Hamas' Jenkins
05-28-2007, 11:21 PM
No way Orton pulls a Jake Roberts. He has far too much moral fiber for something like that.

blaze of glory

I still think that if they rebuild Orton in this sadistic heel mode that he can be a bankable commodity, probably fodder for Jesus at WM 24.

It will be interesting to see who Lashley destroys at WM 24 as well, and when the fans begin to turn on his boring astthhh

'Hamas' Jenkins
05-28-2007, 11:24 PM
I don't think that's something you can put on Cena's shoulders, though. He had a great feud virtually all of '06 with Edge. Problem is...there's only one Edge. Who else is there? Michaels might have had a payoff eventually. But after that? Umaga? Lashley's destroyed him (and Cena, of course...). Khali? Even if they didn't have Cena slay the giant, can you imagine how bad a Khali title reign would be? And that's really it. They only have monsters. There's no legit heels. Can't be Orton, he's put himself in purgatory.

Hell, best thing to do might be to turn Cena, himself, but are they going to risk merchandise sales to the under-18 crowd?

But...who? That's the big problem. There's no top talent. In any 'brand'. That's not Cena's fault. And I have no earthly idea what they can do about it. There's a dearth of in-ring talent. There's a dearth of on-camera talent. It's a company full of midcarders.

Good thing is, people have the opportunity to make their move now. Hopefully some step up.

Had they not jobbed him out in 6 minutes and had him tap to the ****ING STF-U!! Benoit could have had a good 2 month feud with him.

They could still bring back Jericho.

Turning Punk straight edge heel and have him talk about how he's better than a fake ass Marine like Cena would be good.

keg in kc
05-28-2007, 11:26 PM
I love Benoit, but I've heard they're not main eventing him because they think he's weak on the mic. Which is a shame. Just let him be a badass.

Maybe it's time to bring back managers.

'Hamas' Jenkins
05-28-2007, 11:36 PM
I love Benoit, but I've heard they're not main eventing him because they think he's weak on the mic. Which is a shame. Just let him be a badass.

Maybe it's time to bring back managers.

But yet they have Lashley wrestling 4 times on their showcase show in one night...makes sense doesn't it.

Mecca
05-28-2007, 11:36 PM
They will not turn Cena heel because it will cost them money........

Go listen to some psuedo mark talk about it and they'll tell you if you think just kids and women like Cena then you're dumb.

Mecca
05-28-2007, 11:37 PM
But yet they have Lashley wrestling 4 times on their showcase show in one night...makes sense doesn't it.

It's who they like..........even in the height of their boom for a good 6 months no one gave a good god damn **** about Triple H and his push or his title run........they shoved the guy down everyones throat gave him Stephanie and every storyline imagineable to get him over.....

If they want you to be over they will get you over be damned of anything else......they will shove Lashley until everyone just accepts him.

'Hamas' Jenkins
05-28-2007, 11:42 PM
It's who they like..........even in the height of their boom for a good 6 months no one gave a good god damn **** about Triple H and his push or his title run........they shoved the guy down everyones throat gave him Stephanie and every storyline imagineable to get him over.....

If they want you to be over they will get you over be damned of anything else......they will shove Lashley until everyone just accepts him.

Foley at the RR, WM 2000....yes, that was ridiculous, and not one person still considers him even in the same league as Rock or Austin, despite the fact that they pushed him harder (from a manufactured standpoint) than anyone in that era .

Mecca
05-29-2007, 12:09 AM
Foley at the RR, WM 2000....yes, that was ridiculous, and not one person still considers him even in the same league as Rock or Austin, despite the fact that they pushed him harder (from a manufactured standpoint) than anyone in that era .

Except that company and the real mark fans.........he has legit worked alot of people into really believing he's extremely important and an all time great.

keg in kc
05-29-2007, 12:11 AM
He is THE GAME!

Mecca
05-29-2007, 12:15 AM
He is THE GAME!

It's all about the quad........and how you tear it.

keg in kc
05-29-2007, 12:16 AM
It's all about the wife, and how you lay it

Mecca
05-29-2007, 12:18 AM
It's all about the wife, and how you lay it

Ok top this.........

<object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/VQYjMRN0OXM"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/VQYjMRN0OXM" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"></embed></object>

keg in kc
05-29-2007, 12:22 AM
rofl

Mecca
05-29-2007, 12:24 AM
I will now post a series of great botch videos.......

Here is the first one....

<object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/NSE5DF_maac"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/NSE5DF_maac" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"></embed></object>

Mecca
05-29-2007, 01:34 AM
source: Wrestling Observer Newsletter

Angel Williams had been in WWE's developmental system for about two and half years and just wasn't able to make it to the main roster for one reason or another. She was really close to being called up on at least two occasions, but it seems like something would always come up at the last minute to prevent her from finally breaking through into the big leagues.

Williams was on the brink of being called up to the SmackDown roster in January 2006 to replace Jillian Hall as JBL's consultant, but her knee blew out at a Deep South Wrestling show a few days before her scheduled WWE debut. Also, Vince McMahon was impressed with how Jillian Hall reacted to The Boogeyman biting the cookie-like "growth" one her face on TV, so he changed his mind on replacing her. She was then close to being called with The Gymini, but the team didn't impress management in their dark matches late last year, and they were subsequently let go about two months later.

Anyways, the reason given for Angel Williams' firing is that well, management just didn't feel that she was pretty enough to be a WWE Diva, and thus she was let go. PWInsider.com also reported that she had a bit of an attitude problem at times while in DSW, although it doesn't look like she was necessarily released for that.

Furthermore, a person in the know with things down in Ohio Valley Wrestling said that Williams burst into tears upon receiving the news of her termination from Stephanie McMahon, who personally informed her that she was being let go from WWE. After her meeting with Stephanie, "she was blubbering like a baby," the source said.


For anyone that's actually seen Angel.....you'll know what a load of complete shit that is.

'Hamas' Jenkins
05-29-2007, 01:45 AM
ACT Time

John Cena: Rock as HHH:

A)Hulk Hogan
B) Harley Race
C) Ric Flair
D) Nick Bockwinkel


Hint: The answer is always C)

Both are piss-poor imitations of the original, but have convinced some truly idiotic fans that they are as good as the real thing.

Mecca
05-29-2007, 01:52 AM
I think Cena is more Hogan than Rock and HHH really think's he is Flair.....his idolization of Flair went so far I really think he'll hold the belt 17 times before he hangs it up just so he can say he passed Flair.

'Hamas' Jenkins
05-29-2007, 02:24 AM
I think Cena is more Hogan than Rock and HHH really think's he is Flair.....his idolization of Flair went so far I really think he'll hold the belt 17 times before he hangs it up just so he can say he passed Flair.

I agree with the second half...Cena's push is becoming Hoganesque, and there is an argument to be made, but it seems that Vince wants Cena to be this incredibly entertaining mic worker, a la Rocky, which directly leads to a number of his asinine promos laced with dick and fart jokes of sophomoric sophistication.

Ultra Peanut
05-29-2007, 02:38 AM
Cena is the half-aborted result of a wild night of passion involving Hulk Hogan, The Rock, Steve Austin, and any other marketable star wrestling has ever known.

So back off, jackoff, and if you want some, come get some of this fart juice!!

Ultra Peanut
05-29-2007, 02:50 AM
After being promoted to Executive Vice President of Talent and Creative Writing for WWE, Stephanie McMahon-Levesque has acquired 42,500 shares of stock for $490, 810.

The voice of RAW Jim Ross will be opening his “J.R.’s Family barbecue” restaurant in his hometown Norman, Oklahoma on June 27th. It will have a wrestling theme and will be decorated with pro wrestling memorabilia.

Vince McMahon was very upset backstage when he was told that developmental talent Vladimir Kozlov was not ready to be brought on WWE. They have been grooming Kozlov for superstardom and apparently his contract is a lot higher than usual developmental deals because Jerry Jarrett cut a good deal for him.

There is an Iraqi gimmick heel tag team in OVW being groomed for WWE called Omar & Ali Akbar.

WWE World Champion Edge has been specifically told that he will have a long reign as champion. For the first time in his career he is being groomed to carry a television show. Edge has always been under much pressure as champion competing with other top superstars such as Triple H and John Cena.If they aren't Mark Copani and Shawn Daivari, I want nothing to do with them. :(

Ultra Peanut
05-29-2007, 05:09 AM
Randy Orton, you have unleashed a power far greater than you could ever imagine. Together, Shawn Michaels, RVD, and Eugene will rule the world of wrestling for decades to come.

http://i18.tinypic.com/5xrw8w2.jpg

'Hamas' Jenkins
05-29-2007, 11:03 AM
If they aren't Mark Copani and Shawn Daivari, I want nothing to do with them. :(

Aliaiiyahaaaaaaiiiyyyyyahhh.

God, I love that Music.

Ultra Peanut
05-29-2007, 07:25 PM
<object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/AwVqPVs1ooE"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/AwVqPVs1ooE" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"></embed></object>

*bobs head*

keg in kc
05-29-2007, 08:29 PM
Looks like there's another botch to add to the blooper real.

Man, not a good night for young Mr. Punk.

'Hamas' Jenkins
05-29-2007, 08:39 PM
Speaking of wrestlers I'd love to see come back...

<object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/JQJsQ7HoJmM"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/JQJsQ7HoJmM" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"></embed></object>

I was so disappointed when Daivari debuted on ECW and I heard the music again. Not that I don't like him, too, but... it's not the same.

I'm using the same entrance for my first appearance at a CP gathering.

unothadeal
05-29-2007, 09:03 PM
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l87/kdog414141/n25831727_33454302_9364.jpg

Ultra Peanut
05-30-2007, 02:21 AM
Looks like there's another botch to add to the blooper real.It almost looked planned, with the way Burke reacted so quickly and calmly. Really nice match those two put on tonight, and it was given ample time to shine.

Burke and Punk are making each other into stars. Even when they first squared off in what was nothing but, "Punk's on a roll, oh and here's Terkay's spokesman to face him this week," their chemistry was evident.

keg in kc
05-30-2007, 08:41 AM
It almost looked planned, with the way Burke reacted so quickly and calmly.That was more impressive to me than anything else that happened in the match. They just went on like nothing happened. They're (meaning SciFi) lucky the crowd was dead, so the 'you ****ed up' chants were barely audible.

Mecca
05-30-2007, 04:24 PM
Check this out guys.........

http://board.deathvalleydriver.com/index.php?showtopic=37119

According to the old DVDVR if you don't like Steph, think she sucks at her job or any of that......you are a misogynistic asshole that hates women....

Man I love posters on that board especially the guy who started that thread........

'Hamas' Jenkins
05-30-2007, 04:50 PM
Check this out guys.........

http://board.deathvalleydriver.com/index.php?showtopic=37119

According to the old DVDVR if you don't like Steph, think she sucks at her job or any of that......you are a misogynistic asshole that hates women....

Man I love posters on that board especially the guy who started that thread........

FFS, people like that actually undermine feminism...idiot. Women can be anything, as well as incompetent, like Steph is.

Ultra Peanut
05-30-2007, 08:05 PM
Jesus. If anyone's misogynistic, it's Stephanie.

I guess I think Vince Russo is an incompetent douche because he's Italian.

keg in kc
05-30-2007, 08:07 PM
Well, you know, Stephanie did get hindenberg sized breast implants in the interest of furthering the cause of the modern feminist.

Ultra Peanut
05-31-2007, 04:36 AM
Ahahahaha, I just heard this on the Raw tape that's playing:

"Sure, Hunter would be a great king, but he wouldn't be the King of Kings, like I am." - Jerry Lawler, 05/12/1997

Ultra Peanut
05-31-2007, 10:08 AM
Yo! Japanese people!

<object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/SQ2sgoiVyBQ"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/SQ2sgoiVyBQ" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"></embed></object>

Ultra Peanut
05-31-2007, 06:25 PM
Alex Shelley is awesome.

<object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/1WtdTDhnlaE"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/1WtdTDhnlaE" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"></embed></object>

**** TNA for saddling the MCMGs with this Bob Backlund bullshit once Aries got into trouble for... agreeing to do a fan interaction thing.

Oh, and in other "TNA is retarded" news, I checked on Ticketmaster, and you could still get 10 ringside seats together. That's about to change, though, because Frank Wycheck will be taking on James Storm at Slammiversary!

Not to be all Schiavone, but ho boy, that'll put butts in the seats.

'Hamas' Jenkins
05-31-2007, 07:34 PM
Yo! Japanese people!

<object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/SQ2sgoiVyBQ"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/SQ2sgoiVyBQ" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"></embed></object>

The greatest feud in WWF/E history.

unothadeal
05-31-2007, 08:09 PM
Alex Shelley is awesome.

<object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/1WtdTDhnlaE"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/1WtdTDhnlaE" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"></embed></object>

**** TNA for saddling the MCMGs with this Bob Backlund bullshit once Aries got into trouble for... agreeing to do a fan interaction thing.

Oh, and in other "TNA is retarded" news, I checked on Ticketmaster, and you could still get 10 ringside seats together. That's about to change, though, because Frank Wycheck will be taking on James Storm at Slammiversary!

Not to be all Schiavone, but ho boy, that'll put butts in the seats.
lol. He's right about African Lion Safari. The monkeys will destroy your car.

unothadeal
05-31-2007, 08:16 PM
Just taking a look at wwe.com. It appears Batista will be on The Cutting Edge on Smackdown. I'm just gonna throw this out there and say that A: Batista will lose his cool and leave Edge in the ring after a Batista bomb. Or B: Edge will cheap show Batista and leave him in the ring after a spear.

Ultra Peanut
06-01-2007, 07:28 PM
TADPOLE SPLASH

unothadeal
06-01-2007, 07:30 PM
TADPOLE SPLASH
That match was both funny and sad at the same time.

Ultra Peanut
06-01-2007, 09:09 PM
I agree, if "sad" means "AWESOME."

unothadeal
06-01-2007, 09:14 PM
I agree, if "sad" means "AWESOME."
Actually, I was leaning more towards pathetic. But I can see where you're coming from.

Ultra Peanut
06-02-2007, 03:31 AM
Ahahahaha, I just heard this on the Raw tape that's playing:

"Sure, Hunter would be a great king, but he wouldn't be the King of Kings, like I am." - Jerry Lawler, 05/12/1997Holy shit. On this very same episode, Lawler dubbed RVD "Mr. Monday Night" in an in-ring promo, right before RVD's match against some jobber... named Jeff Hardy.

Ultra Peanut
06-02-2007, 03:33 AM
Tonight on USA, Nikita poses as the long-lost daughter of a nuclear terrorist!

'Hamas' Jenkins
06-02-2007, 03:37 AM
Holy shit. On this very same episode, Lawler dubbed RVD "Mr. Monday Night" in an in-ring promo, right before RVD's match against some jobber... named Jeff Hardy.

That was the week I became a pro wrestler.

Ultra Peanut
06-02-2007, 04:02 AM
Wait, what?

Oh, and I'm SHOCKED:

It looks like it's going to be scalpers night off in Nashville on June 17th as ticket sales for TNA's Slammiversary pay-per-view have been sluggish to say the least. If you go to Ticketmaster.com, you can still get a third row seat. On the first day tickets went on sale at Nashville's Municipal Auditorium, which was two Saturdays ago and had TNA talent on hand to sign autographs, only 67 people showed up. There were 67 people there because a person who was there noted that nobody ever got behind him while he was waiting in line for his ticket. The reason for the sluggish sales may be due to the high ticket prices. Ringside seats are $125, which might be out of the price range for the Nashville locals who were used to getting in for free when TNA ran weekly pay-per-views there. The crowds at the weekly pay-per-views often appeared to be at a very low level of income and are regarded by some as one of the lowest socio-economic crowds to ever witness pro wrestling events, so that might explain why the ticket sales have been really bad. The Municipal Auditorium holds about 8,500 people, so TNA has their work cut out for them.

sedated
06-02-2007, 04:11 AM
sunrise is like god's flashlight tapping on your window...

"what are you still doing up, druggy?"

unothadeal
06-02-2007, 08:27 PM
What happened to heel commentators? Jerry Lawler used to be hilarious.

unothadeal
06-02-2007, 08:44 PM
You will laugh your ass off at 4:20!!!!
<object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/KU6-Eb54TRY"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/KU6-Eb54TRY" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"></embed></object>

'Hamas' Jenkins
06-02-2007, 09:39 PM
Michael Cole doing SNME?? F*CK!!

'Hamas' Jenkins
06-02-2007, 09:46 PM
Ashley oiled up her implants to do ring announcing...and she can't even do that well.

Over/under on her release...3 months??

keg in kc
06-02-2007, 09:49 PM
I completely forget that was on.

'Hamas' Jenkins
06-02-2007, 10:06 PM
Mark Henry refers to himself as the "Silverback"

ROFL ROFL

Silverback

A term used to describe the larger "buck" or bigger undomesticated black male. Usually a parolee because his larger size from regular meals and lifting weights.

While on patrol in South Central: "Did you see the size of that silverback holding the 40?"

This show is HORRIBLE so far.

'Hamas' Jenkins
06-02-2007, 10:13 PM
Out comes Botch-tista :shake:

'Hamas' Jenkins
06-02-2007, 10:14 PM
Benoit is God.

unothadeal
06-02-2007, 10:16 PM
I like how the Toronto crowd is cheering for Edge

'Hamas' Jenkins
06-02-2007, 10:20 PM
I like how the Toronto crowd is cheering for Edge

Canadian wrestling fans are awesome.

unothadeal
06-02-2007, 10:45 PM
It sucks to be Kane right now.

unothadeal
06-02-2007, 10:54 PM
LOL Kane couldn't even fit his hand around Viscera's neck

Mecca
06-02-2007, 11:16 PM
I'd like to point out that I am a fan of Brooke.

Ultra Peanut
06-03-2007, 03:30 AM
I completely forget that was on.Me, too. While I was watching it.

Ultra Peanut
06-04-2007, 10:49 PM
What I thought of ONS:

Table and ladder matches were good. ECW Tampionship wasn't too bad. Everything else was so-so.

My three thoughts on RAW:

I AM THE LINDBERGH BABY

GIT GIT GIT GIT GIT GIT GIT

REDNECK RAGE MOTHER****ERS

Reaper16
06-04-2007, 11:29 PM
Vince was entertaining tonight, at least. Cryme Time and Nitro got some rare in-ring screen time. Cade and Murdoch winning the titles was cool, I guess.

Rumor mill has CM Punk (among others like Benoit) being drafted to Raw. Hmmm.

'Hamas' Jenkins
06-04-2007, 11:44 PM
Vince was entertaining tonight, at least. Cryme Time and Nitro got some rare in-ring screen time. Cade and Murdoch winning the titles was cool, I guess.

Rumor mill has CM Punk (among others like Benoit) being drafted to Raw. Hmmm.

:hmmm:

I wonder if they'll jettison Orton to ECW as part of his punishment and feed him to Lathhhhley, or if Orton was foreshadowing a move to Smackdown with his conversation w/ Edge last night.

That being said, the Orton punt to the head is quickly becoming one of my favorite moves.


GAAAAAAAHHHHHHH...and then he Colquitt's their f*cking skull ROFL

Mecca
06-05-2007, 12:02 AM
Orton isn't being "punished" anymore, now he's being built up to be fed to H upon his return, expect no movement there.....

Also the observer reports Benoit has been told he will be moving to Raw.

Ultra Peanut
06-05-2007, 12:05 AM
Vince was entertaining tonight, at least. I hope Vince stays retarded/senile. It will be beautiful if, next week, his first pick in the draft is... LITTLE BOOGEYMAN!

God, I was so happy to see the Cade and Murdoch payoff. I'm kind of disappointed I won't get to see them act like fine, upstanding young fellers anymore, but it had to happen sometime.

Rumor mill has CM Punk (among others like Benoit) being drafted to Raw. Hmmm.Well, Santino is macking on Punk's girl...

Oh, who am I kidding? More crap for the crap god.

Mecca
06-05-2007, 12:10 AM
Oh also the report coming into this was if the Hardys drop the tag titles look for each of them to be in line for big singles pushes.....

'Hamas' Jenkins
06-05-2007, 12:14 AM
Oh also the report coming into this was if the Hardys drop the tag titles look for each of them to be in line for big singles pushes.....

They've both earned it, IMO, definitely Matt. I just have a feeling they'll both end up in the Upper Midcard b/c there's no way they'll hold the title(s) w/o "the look", even if they always are perpetually over.

Ultra Peanut
06-05-2007, 12:17 AM
Oh also the report coming into this was if the Hardys drop the tag titles look for each of them to be in line for big singles pushes.....I have no problem with that. Matt's been really solid, and Jeff's been a pro since coming back.

Oh, and what the ****, Apolo? You just SCREWED ME OUT OF SEEING THE STEINER BROTHERS REUNITE YOU STUPID SON OF A BITCH (http://www.wrestlingobserver.com/wo/news/headlines/default.asp?aID=19779)

Scott Steiner was scheduled to undergo surgery on his trachea today in San Juan, Puerto Rico. Steiner was injured yesterday in taking a kick to the throat from Apolo in a tag team match where Steiner & Robert Roode faced Jeff Jarrett & Apolo. He seemed fine after the match, but at 2 a.m., was having trouble breathing and was rushed to the hospital.

There was no estimate until after surgery is completed regarding how long Steiner would be out of action, but the preliminary word was that he's not expected back in the ring for a while.

Steiner had just started teaming with brother Rick for a few matches against Team 3-D, including at the 6/17 Slammiversary PPV.I hope this doesn't keep him from cutting hilariously strange promos...

unothadeal
06-05-2007, 01:48 PM
GIT GIT GIT GIT GIT GIT GIT
LMAO That was so disturbing

unothadeal
06-07-2007, 07:52 PM
Wow. I'm watching TNA and their Main Event is 10x better than anything WWE has done in a loooong time.

Reaper16
06-07-2007, 09:01 PM
Well I'm watching the 3-disc Ladder Match DVD. This thing is chock-full of awesome.

Ultra Peanut
06-08-2007, 06:41 AM
Snake Roberts ruined my wedding...

<object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/5KNvaVbgj24"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/5KNvaVbgj24" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"></embed></object>

<3 Larry Sweeney

Wow. I'm watching TNA and their Main Event is 10x better than anything WWE has done in a loooong time.Someone on another forum suggested that Harris and Storm become TNA's version of Tanaka and Awesome, and I agree wholeheartedly. Seeing them come out and beat the crap out of each other is perfectly fine with me.

Swanman
06-08-2007, 07:12 AM
Wow. I'm watching TNA and their Main Event is 10x better than anything WWE has done in a loooong time.

If you want to see a main event that is 100x better than WWE and you have access to it, buy the ROH pay-per-view in July. The main event of Nigel McGuiness and Kenta vs. Morishima and Bryan Danielson sounded really solid and the match between the Briscoe Brothers and Claudio Castagnoli/Matt Syday stole the show from reports I've read. Also, in September they'll be airing another PPV taken from the 6/23 Chicago show that I'll be attending. It will have a double main event of Bryan Danielson vs. Kenta and The Briscoes vs Kevin Steen/El Generico. You may not know many of the names above, but rest assured they all bring the goods everytime they're in the ring.

unothadeal
06-08-2007, 06:10 PM
****ing Batista Again!!! WTF!

Mecca
06-08-2007, 06:11 PM
TNA is far to convaluted to be better than the WWE is, they have talent sure but the WWE will deliver where as TNA rarely does.....

The best matches of this year on a national level or well for any level have by an large still come from the WWE.

unothadeal
06-08-2007, 06:14 PM
The best matches of this year on a national level or well for any level have by an large still come from the WWE.
Name 1 good WWE match from 2007

Mecca
06-08-2007, 06:22 PM
Name 1 good WWE match from 2007

Michaels/Cena from Raw?

Cena's been in numerous MOTY contenders this year, I know people get tired of the guy but he's been on for the most part.

Let's also toss out there all of the Benoit/MVP matches which have been outstanding.

big nasty kcnut
06-08-2007, 06:27 PM
I want vince crazy but i woud love to see shane send him to the crazy house and run wwe.

unothadeal
06-08-2007, 06:33 PM
Michaels/Cena from Raw?
My only grief with those two is that Cena cant sell a move and Michaels overracts too much.

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l87/kdog414141/n40707354_30552886_5602.jpg

Mecca
06-08-2007, 06:46 PM
Awhile back Lance Storm wrote some things about TNA that I agree with and it's why their product annoys me. I'll post them..

RussoRiffic
February 2, 2007

I know I do this a lot but I am about to go on another TNA rant. I didn’t want to but I got so worked up and angry after watching this week’s show I had to get this off my chest. I can however promise that this will be my last TNA rant for a while because I am now officially boycotting TNA until Vince Russo is removed from the creative process. How a company with such an amazingly talented locker room can produce such an unwatchable show is beyond me. Actually it isn’t beyond me I watched Vince Russo do it in WCW. There is an old expression: “Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.” Someone needs to explain the history of WCW to Dixie Carter.

I have come to the conclusion that TNA is to Wrestling, what Scary Movie is to Horror Films. It has become a comedic spoof of a wrestling show. No sane rational person would act the way people do in TNA. Chris Sabin in an effort to make fun of Jerry Lynn’s age shows up in a bathrobe, using a walker, and wearing depends. Is he six? Who would do this? It felt like a bugs bunny cartoon. Why would Jerry be mad that Sabin is making himself look like an idiot?

Ron Killings stuff looked like a bad SNL skit. He said he was going Hollywood and going to be a big star so we now get to see him doing bad movie trailer spoofs. What is meant to be accomplished by this?

Counting Cornette and valets there were 39 people on this Freakin show. How are we supposed to remember any of it? What purpose did Bob Backlund serve? Why is Sonjay Dutt now posing? Has Big Kev convinced him that he is on the gas?

The LAX thing was beyond unbelievable.
Mike Tenay is handed video footage of a horrific violent crime against innocent people he decides to:
A: Report said violent crime to police and hand over the video evidence.
B: Air the footage and act disgusted and mad.

After having close family members viscously attacked and assaulted, Team 3D:
A: Reports said violent crime to police sending the people who assaulted their family to prison.
B: Become so enraged that they track LAX down immediately seeking revenge.
C: Sends D-von to the weekly TV show to vow revenge next week.

Are we to believe that Sting now has magical powers, since he disappeared out of the back of the ambulance leaving only his “trade marked” baseball bat behind? That tiny cage behind James Mitchell during his promo, does the prison yard match take place inside that tiny thing? What was the point, was that incase we didn’t understand the concept of jail?

There were three matches on the show. All of them had outside interference and brawling after the match. We got a total of maybe 10 minutes of match time on the entire show, and they didn’t even bother to announce the result of the main event. Do finishes not matter? Doesn’t anyone care who won? I used to. To plug a PPV caliber main event then deliver a 3 minutes match with no finish is asinine. If that is a PPV caliber match I will never order a PPV. It is also insane considering the PPV caliber Main Event match that Edge and HBK delivered on RAW just over a week ago.

The show is called Total Non-Stop Action yet we get almost no action and when we do get some it is over shadowed by endless run ins, outside interference, and non-finishes. I am officially at wits end and will not watch another TNA show until they replace Vince Russo. Hopefully this will happen before TNA goes out of business, because if they do Vince McMahon will just end up with another video library and we will have to see all this nonsense again on 24/7.

Lance Storm

Why I Rant

February 5, 2007

After my recent “RussoRiffic” TNA rant I was again bombarded with the question: Why do I pick on TNA, why don’t I rant on WWE? There are several reasons behind this so this week I figured I could look at them in depth.

When I look at WWE and TNA I don’t just do so as a fan that wants to watch wrestling. I watch them with a vested interest in their success as it pertains to the wrestling industry. I want both companies to thrive and succeed for the good of the business and the boys who work in it.

WWE is thriving; they make money, lots of money (grossing $380 million per year). There is little to no chance they are going to go out of business any time soon. There is more chance of WWE shutting down because Vince losses interest than due to financial concerns. TNA on the other hand is losing money, LOTS of money ($10 million per year). Without it’s financial backers TNA cannot exist. At some point in time people investing money in a business expect a return on that investment. If that point in time comes before TNA is able to turn business around and actually make money or at least break even, so it can survive without money backers, it’s game over, no more TNA. TNA supporters constant defense that WWE does Stupid Stuff too, is nothing more than a cop out!!

WWE and TNA are in two completely different boats. WWE has a stable loyal audience that tunes in every week, buys enough merchandise, and orders enough PPVs for WWE to make money. As long as they don’t do enough stupid things to drive their audience away in droves they will stay in business. TNA on the other hand does not have a large enough fan base, and they do not order enough PPVs, for TNA to stay in business without financial help. So TNA needs to attract a ton of new fans in order to become a success. When your goal is to attract new fans rather than just not repel current ones you need to be far more careful and can get away with far fewer mistakes.

The other reason I don’t rant on WWE like I do TNA is that their show in my opinion is far less frustrating. WWE does some stupid shit, don’t get me wrong, but at the end of the day they usually deliver the goods in some form or another. As wrestling fans we’ve been conditioned to tolerate a certain degree of crap as long as IT ISN’T ALL CRAP and once in a while you deliver what we want to see.

Let’s look at SmackDown this past week, which I thought was a weak show by SD standards. SD had 4 matches, two of which had outside interference and were in my opinion crappy finishes, especially the “Little Bastard” Boogey Man finish. As disappointing as those 2 finishes were, there was at least 2 clean finishes on the show and the solid 12 minutes of action delivered by Benoit and Finlay before the finish more than balanced that out. On top of that the show ended with an extremely strong segment involving 4 top guys. We got to see a very serious and dramatic standoff between the two World Champions and the top 2 contenders. It was meaningful and set up the next PPV Main Event, and increased interested in the following PPV (WrestleMania) as well. No other people were involved it was clear cut and focused.

TNA on the other hand had 3 matches ALL of which had outside interference and post match brawling. None of the matches went more than 4 minutes and totaled less than 10 minutes combined. There was tons of goofy stupid crap but not one solid meaningful focused segment to anchor the show. They offered us a “PPV caliber Main Event” which had my hopes up, yet turned out to be another short, pointless match that didn’t even have a finish. Had they let AJ and Joe deliver a great main event, like they both can, all the other stuff would have been forgiven. Those who like the goofy stuff would have gotten their fill and those of use who foolishly expect some wrestling on a wrestling show would have been happy as well. If TNA would give me one great solid match once in a while (and they sure as hell have the roster to do it) I’d watch the show and put up with all the stupid shit. Just because others do stupid shit doesn’t excuse it on your show, especially when the other guys on occasion deliver matches like Edge and Shawn Michaels did 2 weeks ago.

In closing to those of you who emailed me stating that ECW is worse than TNA, which again is not a valid defense. I won’t dispute that. I don’t find it as mind numbingly frustrating, but I don’t enjoy it and gave up on it months before I gave up on TNA. If TNA revamps it’s creative team, or ECW starts featuring more Tommy Dreamer and less Matt Stryker, I’ll likely give both of them a try again.

That’s my two cents,
Lance Storm

big nasty kcnut
06-08-2007, 06:56 PM
True but unless you got a ear to jeff jerrett or dixie carter tna won't change.

unothadeal
06-08-2007, 07:08 PM
Benoit and Edge are putting on a good match right now. I'd much rather see this fued than Edge and Batista.

Mecca
06-08-2007, 07:09 PM
Benoits going to Raw so....

unothadeal
06-08-2007, 07:10 PM
Benoits going to Raw so....
I know, but it would be nice.

Mecca
06-08-2007, 07:11 PM
At this moment I don't think they have a choice but to run the match again because honestly.....Batista and Edge are probably the only 2 guys they know for sure aren't being taken from them...

Everytime a draft has happened in the past Smackdown has been totally raped giving 85% of their major guys to Raw and taking them years to recover from it.

unothadeal
06-08-2007, 07:15 PM
At this moment I don't think they have a choice but to run the match again because honestly.....Batista and Edge are probably the only 2 guys they know for sure aren't being taken from them...

Everytime a draft has happened in the past Smackdown has been totally raped giving 85% of their major guys to Raw and taking them years to recover from it.
Well they should at least give Batista a win then. He's lost what? 5 title matches in a row? I'm just sick of seeing him in a heavyweight title match all the time after losing so many.

Mecca
06-08-2007, 07:17 PM
Batista beating Edge would be a horrible idea........Batista just sucks as a champ, he's just fodder for putting Edge over more at this time.

unothadeal
06-08-2007, 07:19 PM
Batista beating Edge would be a horrible idea........Batista just sucks as a champ, he's just fodder for putting Edge over more at this time.
I don't want to see him win the title either, but at least win a non title match for christ sake.

'Hamas' Jenkins
06-08-2007, 07:23 PM
Edge/Orton from RAW to "blow off" their feud was a really good match.

The WM main event, although paced too slow at the beginning, was still a good match.

By several accounts the ladder match @ ECW ONS this past weekend was *** 1/2-4

Cena-Umaga at the RR was a really good match.

Personally, I can't stand Cena, so don't think I'm listing these as a fanboy.

Mecca
06-08-2007, 07:23 PM
Batista really has no one but himself to blame for why he isn't allowed to beat maineventers anymore...

At this point Edge can have great fueds with just about anyone.....I'm all for Edge moving onto another program with Matt Hardy personally.

unothadeal
06-08-2007, 07:27 PM
Batista really has no one but himself to blame for why he isn't allowed to beat maineventers anymore...
How so?

'Hamas' Jenkins
06-08-2007, 07:28 PM
How so?

He's a dickhead backstage.

He's one of the biggest roid-freaks in the company which leads to his constantly getting injured.

He's mediocre on the mic.

He's subpar in the ring.

Mecca
06-08-2007, 07:30 PM
Because Batista has 0 fire, he moves gingerly like he's so afraid he's going to get hurt.

He also doesn't help himself in the back with his attitude most of the other wrestlers don't like the guy and think he's a jackass......He got in a fight with Booker T and since then......it's been all down hill.

Ever since he came back from being hurt whatever he had in his run before was gone, there was no passion no fire just nothing but a guy going through the motions for his check and living on what he use to be.

unothadeal
06-08-2007, 07:31 PM
He's a dickhead backstage.

He's one of the biggest roid-freaks in the company which leads to his constantly getting injured.

He's mediocre on the mic.

He's subpar in the ring.
So pretty much the only reason he's maineventing is because he sells T-shirts and the rest of the roster sucks.

Mecca
06-08-2007, 07:36 PM
He's also buds with Triple H.......the fact that they moved Edge over when Taker got hurt speaks volumes to the actual managements thoughts on Batista at this time.

Alot of casual fans still "buy" Batista so he'll still be marketed he just won't be in the top spot, Edge is going to be there for a good awhile.

Swanman
06-08-2007, 10:11 PM
Because Batista has 0 fire, he moves gingerly like he's so afraid he's going to get hurt.

He also doesn't help himself in the back with his attitude most of the other wrestlers don't like the guy and think he's a jackass......He got in a fight with Booker T and since then......it's been all down hill.

Ever since he came back from being hurt whatever he had in his run before was gone, there was no passion no fire just nothing but a guy going through the motions for his check and living on what he use to be.

After the wellness policy kicked in and Batista came back from injury, he just wasn't the same guy. It was obvious his strength was a far cry from what it was, evidenced by the fact that he had trouble getting anyone up for the demon bomb. He almost dropped a few people on their heads trying to do the move. It was embarassing. However, he will always have a place in the upper card because big musclebound oafs give Vince a boner.

big nasty kcnut
06-08-2007, 11:59 PM
By the way vince russo is thy suck.

Ultra Peanut
06-10-2007, 06:04 AM
http://i17.tinypic.com/4tsri3m.gif

Great rant by Storm, by the way.

I know I do this a lot but I am about to go on another TNA rant. I didn’t want to but I got so worked up and angry after watching this week’s show I had to get this off my chest. I can however promise that this will be my last TNA rant for a while because I am now officially boycotting TNA until Vince Russo is removed from the creative process. How a company with such an amazingly talented locker room can produce such an unwatchable show is beyond me. Actually it isn’t beyond me I watched Vince Russo do it in WCW. There is an old expression: “Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.” Someone needs to explain the history of WCW to Dixie Carter.Of course, Dixie Carter's response to this would be that it's not Vince Russo doing the booking, so his argument holds no water... :rolleyes:

Ultra Peanut
06-10-2007, 11:05 AM
<object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/KNb4q5ATLA0"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/KNb4q5ATLA0" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"></embed></object>

Ultra Peanut
06-11-2007, 05:32 PM
<div><object width="425" height="339"><param name="movie" value="http://www.dailymotion.com/swf/2OFfzeTKYJLXTan6k"></param><param name="allowfullscreen" value="true"></param><embed src="http://www.dailymotion.com/swf/2OFfzeTKYJLXTan6k" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="425" height="339" allowfullscreen="true"></embed></object><br /><b><a href="http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1gzh0_edgematt-vs-jeffchristian">Edge/Matt vs. Jeff/Christian</a></b><br /><i>Uploaded by <a href="http://www.dailymotion.com/Stinger1981">Stinger1981</a></i></div>

Reaper16
06-11-2007, 06:18 PM
The Great HAadjidifiadajahdhahj drafted to Smackdown! with the first pick. Wonderful. :rolleyes:

Ultra Peanut
06-11-2007, 07:02 PM
I'm 40 minutes behind, but I had to share:

Guys, if we all enter the right button combination during the next round of the draft, we'll unlock Jericho!

No whammies, STOP!

big nasty kcnut
06-11-2007, 07:07 PM
the bookerman to raw boogyman to ecw.

big nasty kcnut
06-11-2007, 07:13 PM
benoit to ecw he came home

Reaper16
06-11-2007, 08:10 PM
Will the Konami code unlock Jericho?

big nasty kcnut
06-11-2007, 08:22 PM
Reaper maybe

Swanman
06-11-2007, 08:26 PM
This "draft" is teh ghey.

Mecca
06-11-2007, 08:32 PM
I told you guys Smackdown would get royally ****ed.......

The draft should just have the headline "we needed a way to move some guys Cena already beat and need some new guys for him to beat" that's all it is.

big nasty kcnut
06-11-2007, 08:55 PM
mecca not yet cause the supplmental draft on wed and that mean there still a chance smackdown get some good wreslter

Mecca
06-11-2007, 09:08 PM
mecca not yet cause the supplmental draft on wed and that mean there still a chance smackdown get some good wreslter

They won't move any names in that.........they'll move guys like Johnny Nitro, Raw owned the draft like always it's the A show and will always get the better talent.

'Hamas' Jenkins
06-11-2007, 09:15 PM
So I just started watching the draft special on Tivo. And they start it off with Cena v. Edge.

Wow.

Ultra Peanut
06-11-2007, 09:22 PM
THAT DAMN DX

Oh great.......they're about to show you that only Raw matters by moving guys of value off or Smackdown due to HBK and HHH being injured.I have no idea what you're talking about.

Reaper16
06-11-2007, 09:26 PM
All I've got to say about the ending is...

NEVER restrict Paul London's moveset.

Ultra Peanut
06-11-2007, 09:27 PM
NEVER restrict Paul London's moveset.Roll back the tape. Look at that smile... back, and to the left. Back, and to the left. That is the smile of a man who knows what's about to happen.

OH MY GOD YOU GUYS, I THINK HE REALLY DIED

keg in kc
06-11-2007, 09:30 PM
ROFL

That was classic. The draft sucked, but McMahon Appreciation Night was one of the best things I've ever seen.

No Sopranos ending either, lmao.

Ultra Peanut
06-11-2007, 09:44 PM
But seriously folks, who could have possibly--

<object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/eQweDQx-bIU"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/eQweDQx-bIU" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"></embed></object>

Bah Gawd, King, could it be? Could it really be true?

A SECOND HASSAN HAS HIT THE LIMO!

Reaper16
06-11-2007, 09:47 PM
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/496/rabaqr2.png

big nasty kcnut
06-11-2007, 10:02 PM
Hey that was the best promo of the night by vince.

shrek6849
06-11-2007, 10:25 PM
What about the limo driver? WHAT ABOUT THE LIMO DRIVER DAMNIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

'Hamas' Jenkins
06-11-2007, 10:29 PM
Jesus, Foley is disgustingly fat.

shrek6849
06-11-2007, 10:31 PM
I am really looking forward to seeing Kennedy get to feud with the likes of HHH, HBK, Cena....

Reaper16
06-11-2007, 10:33 PM
I am really looking forward to seeing Kennedy get to feud with the likes of HHH, HBK, Cena....
Except they'll just job Kennedy out to those guys. He was in a great spot @ SD. He had a no-brainer feud w/ Edge ready upon his return, which would have built him up properly to top-carder status. On Raw, he's more likely to be fed to the unbeatable monsters like Cena, Lashley and HHH.

'Hamas' Jenkins
06-11-2007, 10:40 PM
King BOOOKAAHHHHH!!!

'Hamas' Jenkins
06-11-2007, 11:03 PM
Snuka looks like he's 400 years old.

The Iron Sheik owns. Love the Mr. T impersonation.

'Hamas' Jenkins
06-11-2007, 11:27 PM
I just marked out like a bitch for Bret Hart.

keg in kc
06-11-2007, 11:36 PM
I actually think it's the best spot for Kennedy, if he returns as a heel. The only other heel of note on the show will be Booker T (who I'm glad to see back on Raw). Unless you count Snitsky (I don't). They just jobbed Carlito out to CM Punk, so he's no threat.

In the end, what the draft made painfully obvious to me is just how thin the roster really is. They have some work to do in creating stars.

'Hamas' Jenkins
06-12-2007, 12:39 AM
You knew Lashley was going to RAW, but I wonder how they are going to handle him. I still don't ever believe that they'll turn Cena heel, and I don't think that Lashley can play a convincing heel either--he'd need a Daivari-type.

I'm shocked that they moved Kennedy, as they had a money feud with he and Edge perfectly lined up.

I wonder if Benoit will be the new ECW tampion and if they'll turn him heel.

If I were a betting man, I"d say that Shitsky will take Khali's place as the resident PPV monster for Cena to overcome the odds against, but Mecca is mostly right--

This draft is a way for the E to redistribute the chum for Cena, HHH and HBK.

'Hamas' Jenkins
06-12-2007, 12:41 AM
So is the Mr. McMahon character finally dead?

keg in kc
06-12-2007, 12:50 AM
There was talk online that the plan was originally to use Snitsky as an interpromotional monster, hence the promos that ran on every brand for a week or three. I don't know if that's been scrapped or not.

ECW is who really got boned. Benoit is a great pickup, wherever he goes, but they lost their champion and Boogeyman is subtraction by addition. I really thought they'd do more to build that brand up and make it more marketable with some recognizable faces. Maybe on Wednesday.

Mecca
06-12-2007, 01:38 AM
Smackdown got ****ed way harder than ECW did.....

keg in kc
06-12-2007, 02:21 AM
Smackdown got ****ed way harder than ECW did.....I think you're making a mountain out of a molehill.

They lost Benoit, who while one of my favorites, had been off the air before the recent mid-card program with MVP (that he lost in the blow-off).

They lost Booker, another of my favorites who'd been off the air for weeks.

They lost Boogeyman, one of the worst workers in the company.

And they lost Kennedy, to date a mid-carder although maybe on the verge, who's been injured and off the air for weeks.

They gained Flair, Khali and Masters. And Torrie Wilson.

I'm not sure where the f*cking is. Booker for Flair, basically. Boogeyman for Khali. Torrie Wilson (and her ass) for either Benoit or Kennedy, and then Masters for the other. Not to mention that Edge is still pretty much a new face they took from Raw.

I think you're just bitching because you want to see a conspiracy, with the A show stealing talent from the B show. When basically there isn't a whole lot of talent, and they just shuffled what they had around to try and make it fresh. This was nothing more than their way to try to generate new feuds on all the brands.

Mecca
06-12-2007, 02:26 AM
Uh....Booker and Benoit are far and above anyone they got back......

Chris Masters is a ****in bum period, Torrie Wilson they could have just given them a piece of shit same thing...Khali is nothing and Flair is flat old....none of these guys are "future" anything they gave them nothing for something.

Meanwhile Smackdown loses Booker who while old himself can mainevent a program for 3 months and is better than anything Smackdown got back......they lose Benoit who is the same thing......Boogeyman while a crappy worker has a fun gimmick, I'd rather have him than Wilson or Masters....

Then you throw in a guy like Kennedy who was poised for a top run......that really isn't fair.....they all got a guy who can mainevent and be bought at that spot by fans....but Smackdown. No one buys Flair as serious anymore cause he's to old......the other guys are just complete fodder.....especially Masters.

Someone will say "khali this khali that", they moved him cause Cena beat him period.....now he'll go back to Smackdown and do the same thing he isn't anyone that will ever hold a title.

They should have titled the draft "some new guys for Cena" cause they basically drafted his next 3 fueds.....god I love the Raw bookers, can't build any new guys so they take the other shows and give them back guys they already burned or can't figure out anything to do with.

Ultra Peanut
06-12-2007, 07:47 AM
The thing about Smackdown is that they had more to give. ECW's roster is tiny, and RAW's roster was extremely bottom heavy. Smackdown was filled to the brim with midcard talent that went out and put on solid matches every week. Being the weekly wrestling show, they can just keep rolling along and doing what they're doing.

RAW
Cena
Lashley
HBK*
HHH*
King Bookah
Kennedy*
Snitsky LMAO

Smackdown!
Edge
Batista
Undertaker*
MVP
Matt Hardy
Finlay
The GORILLA WE'RE NOT RACIST GUYS HE CALLED HIMSELF THAT

ECW
Benoit
Punk
Burke
POOOOOUNCE

Before the draft, Smackdown was a little thin in terms of big faces for Edge to go over. That really hasn't changed too much, Benoit aside, but I'm thinking they could elevate Matt Hardy if need be and let them go nuts if need be. The rest of Smackdown is perfectly fine, but

What I don't understand is Lashley to RAW. He was already basically on RAW, sure, but what is there to do for him now? I'd actually love it if he ended up with the IC title, simply because it would mean they care about the belt again, but they probably see it as "beneath him" already. On ECW, he could have had an excellent program with Benoit that would have continued to build his skills; the Lashley-Benoit match was easily the best of the night.

Boogeyman is pretty much dead to me now. The stuff with Finlay and Hornswoggle was hilarious in its unrepentant goofiness, but that's dead and there's really nothing for him to do on ECW.

The Kennedy pick was baffling. The feud with Edge, which was probably off in the distance a little bit even after he returned, was absolute money, but even with him being on RAW, I have hope that they'll eventually be pitted against one another later in the year.

Flair can putz around and put Edge over for a bit if absolutely necessary.

I wish Masters had been inside the limo when it exploded.

Ultra Peanut
06-12-2007, 12:01 PM
The McMahon thread is hilarious. People are gullible, and I don't mean in the "holy cow he really died!" way.

Also, feast your eyes on this:

http://i8.tinypic.com/4pcdmb8.gif

keg in kc
06-12-2007, 12:31 PM
The McMahon thread is hilarious. People are gullible, and I don't mean in the "holy cow he really died!" way.Yeah, I'm getting a kick out of that. Wrestling thread! Pile on! roflWhat I don't understand is Lashley to RAW.That made absolutely no sense at all. They spent the best match of the night building a potential feud between he and Benoit (which would've been great) and then took the belt away from him a little while later. A big '**** you, fans!' there.

And, on top of that, the way he handed the belt over was basically saying the ECW belt is shit, and now he finally gets to go play with the big boys for the real gold. In any case, I guess they're sticking with the plan of having ECW be the purgatory between OVW and Raw/SD in the developmental chain.

What I want to know is...where's Colt f*cking Cabana

Ultra Peanut
06-12-2007, 12:47 PM
You know, his page on the OVW site lists him as Colt "Boom Boom" Cabana...

http://www.ovwrestling.com/Superstars/Superstars/colt_cabana.htm

unothadeal
06-12-2007, 02:53 PM
Benoits going to Raw so....
You were saying?

'Hamas' Jenkins
06-12-2007, 03:31 PM
The Silverback Mark Henry

Greatest. Name. Ever.

Maybe the most racist too ROFL ROFL

Ultra Peanut
06-12-2007, 03:39 PM
The Silverback Mark Henry

Greatest. Name. Ever.

Maybe the most racist too ROFL ROFLSELF-PROCLAIMED Silverback.

keg in kc
06-12-2007, 03:41 PM
SELF-PROCLAIMED Silverback.His next gimmick'll be "Mark 'cotton pickin'' Henry".

'Hamas' Jenkins
06-12-2007, 03:46 PM
His next gimmick'll be "Mark 'cotton pickin'' Henry".

The Plantation Sensation Mark Henry

His finishing move: High Cotton.

keg in kc
06-12-2007, 03:49 PM
Hmm, plantation theme. :hmmm:

Mark "Bigass Field Negro" Henry

Finishers would be the

Cotton Pickin' Clothesline
"Yessah massah" Bearhug
World's Strongest Slave Slam



Almost as subtle as "silverback".

keg in kc
06-12-2007, 03:51 PM
Oh shit, I think I have the whole gimmick.

Little Boogey comes back...dressed as a lawn jockey.

Mecca
06-12-2007, 04:05 PM
When HHH and HBK come back Raw has no spots for half these guys......Kennedy probably went from a sure fire title run at some point to now being about the 7th guy who'll constantly job for a certain 3 guys.....

I have a problem with hot shot moving guys for no reason when they'll likely have nothing to do on that show.......now Raw has to many uppercard guys so they'll continue to push the same 3 they have been just feeding the rest of them to those 3.

keg in kc
06-12-2007, 04:07 PM
I'm interested in seeing who (if anyone) moves in the so-called "supplemental draft" tomorrow.

'Hamas' Jenkins
06-12-2007, 04:15 PM
The draft is Sunday due to Vince's impersonation of a Belfast parking valet.

Mecca
06-12-2007, 04:17 PM
I'm interested in seeing who (if anyone) moves in the so-called "supplemental draft" tomorrow.

If they don't give Smackdown any of the younger guys that Raw never uses, and really has no spots for now I'll be truly baffled......there's about 10 guys on Raw now that will never get used, hell some of them don't get used now.

keg in kc
06-12-2007, 04:32 PM
Lance Storm on the draft: http://www.stormwrestling.com/061207.html

He brings up a really good point. What the f*ck's the point of the draft, or the brand split for that matter, at this point in time, when guys are appearing on all 3 shows.

And, to that point, Benoit's apparently in a tag-team match on SD Friday, he and Blah-tista against Edge and MVP.

Ultra Peanut
06-12-2007, 05:14 PM
If they don't give Smackdown any of the younger guys that Raw never uses, and really has no spots for now I'll be truly baffled......there's about 10 guys on Raw now that will never get used, hell some of them don't get used now.Carlito, Kenny, Nitro, WGTT, Highlanders, Cryme Tyme... the list could go on.

I'd love to see Kenny, Nitro, and Shelton on Smackdown.

I believe they only announced the top 10 Draft picks on the show and announced to fans that the rest of the draft picks would be revealed on WWE.com. They then told us all we would have to head to Smack Down for the last show before the split would take effect. When we asked how we were going to find out which show we were drafted to, we were simply told we could find that information on WWE.com.

Yup, to find out which Brand we would be working on, and where our WWE career were headed we had to go online and read it with all the fans. I have never been more shocked or offended in my life. Almost two thirds of our life each year is spent on the road with WWE and travel partners and road schedule are a huge part of staying sane on the road, and our employers couldn’t be bothered to tell us where our lives were headed. I understand them not wanting secrets to get out before the RAW broadcast but could they not have posted a list at the exit of the building so we could check on our way out after the show? The list was going up online at that point so it’s not like we could leak any secrets at that point.That is amazing. Wow.

Mecca
06-12-2007, 05:44 PM
Who's that from?

I await that person getting blasted by H for not caring about the business.

unothadeal
06-12-2007, 05:46 PM
Lance Storm

'Hamas' Jenkins
06-12-2007, 05:53 PM
I guess now storm will get rehired to do a quick job to Hunter.

Ultra Peanut
06-12-2007, 08:00 PM
I didn't even know Joey and Tazz had Owen voices!

Ultra Peanut
06-12-2007, 08:09 PM
HAHAHAHAHA

A TEN BELL SALUTE

HAHAHAHAHAAH

Ultra Peanut
06-12-2007, 08:16 PM
So all we needed to do to bring back "Extreme Rules" was kill McMahon?

Mecca
06-12-2007, 08:16 PM
I enjoy that they booed the salute......angle and all it's pretty bad to boo someones salute.

Ultra Peanut
06-12-2007, 08:23 PM
That was for you, Vince!

PUNK AND BENOIT vs BURKE AND MONTY

:whackit::whackit::whackit::whackit::whackit::whackit:

Mr. Kotter
06-12-2007, 08:31 PM
.... I so want to see them kill vince soul tomorrow.

:spock: Well, latty-friggin' DAH.....you got your wish, man.

Come on now, 'nut.....say you "so want to see the Chiefs win the SuperBowl...for 3 straight years," bitch. Come on 'nut, wield your supernatural powers, man. :cuss:




:p

Mecca
06-12-2007, 08:41 PM
Lance Storm on the draft: http://www.stormwrestling.com/061207.html

He brings up a really good point. What the f*ck's the point of the draft, or the brand split for that matter, at this point in time, when guys are appearing on all 3 shows.

And, to that point, Benoit's apparently in a tag-team match on SD Friday, he and Blah-tista against Edge and MVP.

Uh.......

Benoit is in a tag tonight and on Smackdown there is....*Announced for later tonight: WWE United States champion MVP vs. Batista and WWE World champion Edge vs. Ric Flair.

So I don't know where you got that match info from.

Ultra Peanut
06-12-2007, 08:44 PM
Ben:)it!

Ultra Peanut
06-12-2007, 09:04 PM
Did Armstrong botch that?