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Direckshun
05-01-2007, 06:32 PM
I posted this in another thread but it felt so good, I'm going to type it again.

Shields
Wesley
Hall
Green
Hicks
Sims
Knight
Roaf
Holmes

Our FA signings have all been deals, too. The only one for serious scratch was Nap Harris, and he'll be worth every penny rebuilding this defense.

Soon as the cut date arrives, Chiefs are FREAKING ROLLING in cap space in 2007 and 2008.

I figure a good chunk of that will go to LJ, but that opens us up for some monster acquisitions, in both quality and quantity.

Could put us in prime position for a bidding war for Keyshawn Johnson.

GO CARL GO

Mecca
05-01-2007, 06:34 PM
I'm pretty sure Holmes and Wesley are still "officially" on the roster, and I wouldn't expect Holmes to get cut......Wesley who knows.

luv
05-01-2007, 06:35 PM
Awesome.

Direckshun
05-01-2007, 06:36 PM
I'm pretty sure Holmes and Wesley are still "officially" on the roster.
Sure they are, but Wesley won't be here next year, and there's probably a trade pending so we won't have to swallow a penny for him.

Holmes won't survive the cut date.

It's all dough, buddy, and we got it.

Mecca
05-01-2007, 06:37 PM
Sure they are, but Wesley won't be here next year, and there's probably a trade pending so we won't have to swallow a penny for him.

Holmes won't survive the cut date.

It's all dough, buddy, and we got it.

They won't "cut" Holmes........that's a game of chess, and Wesley your guess is as good as mine same as Green.

blueballs
05-01-2007, 06:37 PM
why go after old players like K Johnson
when you can get a butt load of prospects
for less dough

Mecca
05-01-2007, 06:38 PM
Key isn't gonna get alot of money and still does the dirty work alot of recievers don't like to do.

Direckshun
05-01-2007, 06:39 PM
why go after old players like K Johnson
when you can get a butt load of prospects
for less dough
OL is a weakness the next couple of years. Signing KJ to a two or three year deal while we shore up our line might not be a bad idea.

He's not a speed guy, so his productivity can still be high.

Either way, though. Fair point.

Direckshun
05-01-2007, 06:40 PM
They won't "cut" Holmes........that's a game of chess,
I guess I missed the boat on Holmes. They won't release Priest?

Mecca
05-01-2007, 06:41 PM
I guess I missed the boat on Holmes. They won't release Priest?

No, just like he won't retire, it's all haggling over his bonus money.

Mr. Laz
05-01-2007, 06:41 PM
not all cuts result in cap savings

Direckshun
05-01-2007, 06:42 PM
No, just like he won't retire, it's all haggling over his bonus money.
I don't follow. I'm stupid.

Direckshun
05-01-2007, 06:43 PM
not all cuts result in cap savings
Not in the short run.

blueballs
05-01-2007, 06:43 PM
I wonder if the longer a player stays in th e league
the better his retirement -like Turley used KC for

BigRock
05-01-2007, 07:16 PM
Don't forget, KC also got a $8.5 million cap credit from the league this year because of "likely to be earned incentives" (or something) that were charged against our cap a year ago. Probably due to Trent, Roaf, and Priest not playing and not earning their bonus money.

blueballs
05-01-2007, 07:21 PM
Gonzo's first year of a new contract
LJ's first year will be low -if new deal
they should have a lot of cap space

CoMoChief
05-01-2007, 07:33 PM
We should trade Trent Green to Chicago for Benard Berrian.

John_Wayne
05-01-2007, 07:34 PM
.........so they'll lower the cost of parking and cut the cost of a coke in half, right?

Direckshun
05-01-2007, 07:36 PM
.........so they'll lower the cost of parking and cut the cost of a coke in half, right?
They'll probably sign KJ and drive those prices up.

blueballs
05-01-2007, 07:48 PM
there will be a coin slot on the troughs
that way people will piss in there coke cups
before throwing them at Green in Aqua

StcChief
05-01-2007, 08:08 PM
We should trade Trent Green to Chicago for Benard Berrian.

I'd be all for it.... I just don't see it happening. Wishful thinking

Buehler445
05-01-2007, 08:19 PM
Does anybody know what are cap numbers actually are? I think Gretz posted something sometime, but I can't remember.

Direckshun
05-01-2007, 08:49 PM
Just to let you know, here are the salaries from 2006. The numbers before the player's name is roughly his rank on the team in $$$.

3. Trent Green -- $5,000,000
4. Will Shields -- $4,700,000
5. Eric Hicks -- $4,400,000
7. Willie Roaf -- $3,800,000
11. Priest Holmes -- $2,740,000
13. Greg Wesley -- $2,208,750
14. Ryan Sims -- $2,182,000
16. Sammy Knight -- $1,869,620
20. Dante Hall -- $1,550,000

9 players. $29,350,370.

Jamie
05-01-2007, 09:02 PM
Could put us in prime position for a bidding war for Keyshawn Johnson.

GO CARL GO

So you're one of those guys that just wants to sign every name player that becomes available? :p

pikesome
05-01-2007, 09:08 PM
I don't follow. I'm stupid.

The way I understand it if he retires we could get some of his bonus back. If the Chiefs cut him he keeps it all.

Halfcan
05-01-2007, 09:10 PM
Just to let you know, here are the salaries from 2006. The numbers before the player's name is roughly his rank on the team in $$$.

3. Trent Green -- $5,000,000
4. Will Shields -- $4,700,000
5. Eric Hicks -- $4,400,000
7. Willie Roaf -- $3,800,000
11. Priest Holmes -- $2,740,000
13. Greg Wesley -- $2,208,750
14. Ryan Sims -- $2,182,000
16. Sammy Knight -- $1,869,620
20. Dante Hall -- $1,550,000

9 players. $29,350,370.

So LJ's signing bonus basically??

Direckshun
05-01-2007, 09:11 PM
The way I understand it if he retires we could get some of his bonus back. If the Chiefs cut him he keeps it all.
Thanks.

If we keep him on the team one more year, we lose that money anyways, right?

Cut the guy and move on. We're in prime position to have major $$$ at our disposal for future seasons.

pikesome
05-01-2007, 09:21 PM
Thanks.

If we keep him on the team one more year, we lose that money anyways, right?

Cut the guy and move on. We're in prime position to have major $$$ at our disposal for future seasons.

I guess it would depend on the terms of his restructured contract. I ought to see if I can't find them someplace.

pikesome
05-01-2007, 09:32 PM
I found this about Holmes restructure:


Holmes' contract expires after the 2009 season. He restructured the pact in March 2006 to give the club salary cap relief, lowering his base salary from $3.75 million to $710,000. He's scheduled to earn $870,000 in 2007.


Link (http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/football/nfl/stories/MYSA041407.01C.FBNchiefs.holmes.2d61de9.html)

Looks like the 2008 or 2009 seasons are back-loaded.

Direckshun
05-01-2007, 09:38 PM
Thank you, sir. Most informative.

bigbucks24
05-01-2007, 10:45 PM
I think the Chiefs are doing a great job of house cleaning (and getting picks for it) and clearing space. With a couple of good drafts and some nice free agents, this team could be very good in a couple of years.

Direckshun
05-02-2007, 01:13 PM
I'm dying to know what we got for Sims.

Anything would be a deal with him.

htismaqe
05-02-2007, 01:24 PM
I'm dying to know what we got for Sims.

Anything would be a deal with him.

Somebody posted earlier it was a conditional 7th.

Phobia
05-02-2007, 01:29 PM
I thought for sure this thread would contain a link to a new website on which I could purchase a new Chiefs hat.

Direckshun
05-02-2007, 01:29 PM
Somebody posted earlier it was a conditional 7th.
Bang. And we're in business.

luv
05-02-2007, 01:30 PM
I thought for sure this thread would contain a link to a new website on which I could purchase a new Chiefs hat.
Are you being sarcastically funny, or just sarcastic?

Mecca
05-02-2007, 01:31 PM
I thought for sure this thread would contain a link to a new website on which I could purchase a new Chiefs hat.

Is your dome that big?

Phobia
05-02-2007, 01:33 PM
Are you being sarcastically funny, or just sarcastic?
Just plain stupid.

Dr. Facebook Fever
05-02-2007, 01:33 PM
Could put us in prime position for a bidding war for Keyshawn Johnson.


Why in the HELL would we want Keyshawn Johnson?! Another old possession receiver... no thanks.

Phobia
05-02-2007, 01:35 PM
Is your dome that big?

My dome is so big that if I had your hair it would look like a high & tight.

htismaqe
05-02-2007, 01:51 PM
Why in the HELL would we want Keyshawn Johnson?! Another old possession receiver... no thanks.

Big, physical WR's that can block and make catches over the middle, especially ones who had 70 catches last year, are useless to our 2nd-year QB who's never started a game...

DeezNutz
05-02-2007, 02:06 PM
Somebody posted earlier it was a conditional 7th.

For real? So it's a 7th or nothing, right? Might as well have sent him for a value meal to be named later.

Frosty
05-02-2007, 02:31 PM
For real? So it's a 7th or nothing, right? Might as well have sent him for a value meal to be named later.

Better than nothing.

OctoberFart
05-02-2007, 02:36 PM
not all cuts result in cap savings

Could for the next year. I don't know how much room KC has but if they have a lot they should cut guys with big salaries for production and take all of the hit this year so they aren't on the books next year. That is most likely what they were doing with Hicks and Sims.

Direckshun
05-02-2007, 02:36 PM
For real? So it's a 7th or nothing, right? Might as well have sent him for a value meal to be named later.
Last year we had a 7th round pick fill in adequately at RT until he got injured.

We also got this year's starting FS.

7th round is better than nothing. Sometimes it's damn near something.

DeezNutz
05-02-2007, 02:39 PM
Last year we had a 7th round pick fill in adequately at RT until he got injured.

We also got this year's starting FS.

7th round is better than nothing. Sometimes it's damn near something.

Don't get me wrong. Who can complain about getting anything for Sims? Perhaps we can get lucky. It's just that I don't remember the last time I've seen a "conditional" 7th rounder. Pretty embarrassing for Sims, given that he's the former 6th overall pick.

We know that this POS isn't going to give the Bucs anything, so they've essentially taken him off our hands, which is fine by me.

Rooster
05-02-2007, 02:59 PM
Will Shields -- $4,700,000
Eric Hicks -- $4,400,000
Willie Roaf -- $3,800,000


I just can't believe how much Hicks has made over the years. Good for him I guess but damn.

NY CHIEF
05-02-2007, 05:05 PM
I would have given a 7th round pic to get rid of him ROFL

Mr. Laz
05-02-2007, 06:05 PM
Just to let you know, here are the salaries from 2006. The numbers before the player's name is roughly his rank on the team in $$$.

3. Trent Green -- $5,000,000
4. Will Shields -- $4,700,000
5. Eric Hicks -- $4,400,000
7. Willie Roaf -- $3,800,000
11. Priest Holmes -- $2,740,000
13. Greg Wesley -- $2,208,750
14. Ryan Sims -- $2,182,000
16. Sammy Knight -- $1,869,620
20. Dante Hall -- $1,550,000

9 players. $29,350,370.

according to Pat Kirwan it's only 1.4 for sims and Hick combine

chiefbowe82
05-02-2007, 06:20 PM
kc won't be very good this season, but they've had a very good offseason.

carlos3652
05-02-2007, 07:12 PM
according to Pat Kirwan it's only 1.4 for sims and Hick combine

Those numbers were 2006 numbers anyway, plus you need to minus all the SB and all the guaranteed stuff too...

2008, with them off the books should be nice though... even though we only save 1.4 now, I think we would have been spending that plus any bonuses in 2007 had we had kept them this year...

Halfcan
05-02-2007, 08:01 PM
Who's next to get the axe???

Hoover
07-01-2007, 01:30 PM
Big, physical WR's that can block and make catches over the middle, especially ones who had 70 catches last year, are useless to our 2nd-year QB who's never started a game...

BINGO

I think getting KJ would be a solid move that will not break the bank. It would also allow the Chiefs not to rush Bowe. And before you Joe Hall nerds start giving mad props to Webb, we can't count on a rookie or some undrafted FA to become a pro bowl player with a first year QB.