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Herzig
04-10-2001, 11:03 PM
Is there anyone else not buying any of their commie bastage crap until our people are back home?

AJKCFAN
04-10-2001, 11:08 PM
I'm looking to avoid anything from China (it sucks that their flag is Chiefs colors) and should this end up terribly, things will get really nasty.

This may not come across as serious, but it's a fair question., in good faith

Is Chinese food considered part of the boycott?

RJ
04-10-2001, 11:12 PM
Adam, not to worry. Chinese food as we know it is as American as apple pie.

AJKCFAN
04-10-2001, 11:17 PM
Whew! That's a relief!

Was ready to ****can the boneless ribs left over from lunch...

Phobia
04-11-2001, 01:11 AM
I hadn't thought about it until just now, but hell yeah - I'm boycotting all things China!!!

47mack
04-16-2001, 02:34 PM
Count me in on the boycott as well. I hope all americans join in on their own.

Iowanian
04-16-2001, 02:38 PM
i've been debating this particular piece of Geography with the queen B on the other board.

We aren't perfect, but you don't see me making a raft out of rubber bands, innertubes and maxipads with wings to dog paddle my way to live in another country..

like the Lee Greenwood song says....I'm proud to be an American....

One Arrowhead Dave
04-16-2001, 03:15 PM
I've been boycotting China made goods for some three months now. It is unbelieveable how many made in China goods are sold in this country. My friggin Compaq mouse was made in China....my nike shoes.....on and on and on. NO MORE

ChiTown
04-16-2001, 04:16 PM
Sorry guys, I can't join the boycott.

China is my biggest trading partner in my business. The people I deal with from China are as anti-govt and capitalistic as the next guy on Main Street USA.

Not buying their goods doesn't solve the problem. You're solution is akin to amputating a leg in hopes of curing a failing heart. If it makes you feel better, great, but it won't make a dent in solving the problem.

Mile High Mania
04-16-2001, 04:20 PM
Damn near impossible to do this 100%

BIG_DADDY
04-16-2001, 04:26 PM
Chitown,

You may have a point. I think when more capitalists move in and technology for the average citizen increases China will change, probably by revolution.

ChiTown
04-16-2001, 04:47 PM
Bingo Big Daddy!

I go to China 3-4x/year. Every time I go, there is a new US company building an office, or an assembly plant, etc. China (it's people, not it's Govt) is in the midst of an awakening. They realize that with their vast numbers and excellent raw materials, that they can create new wealth and expand their economy beyond the average citizens imagination in Beijing. They are well aware that the Gov't is their only constraint to propel their growth. Most business leaders in China are running their businesses based off the Western World, not the lessons of Mao.

There is a tremendous amount of pent up unrest in China, relative to Gov't control. It is only a matter of time before their citizens rise to face their Governmental detractors. Why do you think that the Chinese Gov't has spent so much time and effort in spin control for the obvious mishap of their Jet's encounter with our Military plane? The answer is that they fear an uprising, IMO, and their Gov't is using this to try and bring their nation back together in order to keep their political control machine rolling.

My $.02

oleman47
04-16-2001, 07:52 PM
I was lookimg inside my computers and my new IBM hard drive, state of the art, is made in China, my CD drives have been for years. I think will have to make peace wisth the Chinese or be irrelevant, or worse.

KCWolfman
04-16-2001, 10:56 PM
Donald, point taken.

I guess you are at peace with Bush and his environmental policies for the same reason.

After all, each word you type is generating more than necessary energy created from heat inducing ozone burning petroluems, coals, and/or fissionable material.

oleman47
04-17-2001, 10:34 AM
Russ
My point is that a lot of stuff from China is not "crap", heard the same thing about Japanese TV sets. Now we have no TV makers in our country.
The Repubs put in tariffs that led to the Great Depression and this isolationist thinking leads to economic and political results that are contrary to our benefit. The idea that the world must conform to anyones prejudice is not a solution to any problem.

I do not see where my post had anything to do with your personal attack on my environmental views. I surely do not think that because I use energy I must do it the Bush way or no way! But, as I write, Bush just caved in on lead restrictions. So I think it is Bush who is making peace with me!
Once one realizes that if there are no trees there are no humans either, tree hugging becomes acceptable. But, one is entitled to be as stupid as one wants.

BIG_DADDY
04-17-2001, 10:46 AM
Oleman,

So is it safe to assume that you support growing hemp?

oleman47
04-17-2001, 11:25 AM
Big Daddy
Don't see what growing hemp has to so with my last post but if I were a farmer and there was a market I would like to satisfy that market. Plus, as far as I know,hemp is not MJ, and should be legal anyway. The pesky Conservatives keep interfering with our lives.

I think MJ should be legalized although I can't stand the smell nor its effects. It is way too costly to enforce this law and is making a whole generation hate cops. I just don't see the priority of letting booze, cigs, pollution, monopolies, etc. go wild while spending so much on something so minor.

Archie F. Swin
04-17-2001, 11:33 AM
what do we achieve by "boycotting" goods made in China? Sounds kind of silly to me.

Phobia
04-17-2001, 12:08 PM
CRP,

For the same reason I boycott stuff from Hormel. They treated my father unfairly several years ago and fired him for no particular reason after 18 years of faithful employment. I refuse to purchase their products. I'm certain my boycott isn't impacting their bottom line but it sure makes me and Dad feel a helluva lot better.

BIG_DADDY
04-17-2001, 12:23 PM
Oleman,

What it has to do with it is that we would not need to be cutting nearly as many trees if we grew hemp. Nobody has infringed on our freedoms as much as the last administration however. From the anti-terrorist bill to Carnivore to making our health records public. I seriously fail to see our loss of freedoms and liberty as a conservative problem.

oleman47
04-17-2001, 12:53 PM
Big Daddy
I agree, mostly. Clinton, the DLC, have right wing tendencies that get out of hand now and then. I think the "blue dogs" should join the Repubs. I am truly fed up with almost all politicians from the Old South.

58Forever
04-17-2001, 01:32 PM
If we boycott things made in China then I won't be able to use my PC because virtually all the components are made there.

I'll try to boycott everything except Chinese food and since what we eat has no resemblance to real Chinese food I think I'm safe...:)

BIG_DADDY
04-17-2001, 01:40 PM
Originally posted by oleman47
Big Daddy
Clinton, the DLC, have right wing tendencies

Once again loss of freedoms is not a conservative issue but rather a BIG GOVERNMENT issue. If people on both sides of the fence would just agree to that we could get the government out of our lives and total taxation down to say 25%. We both know that is not going to happen though and mostly because of the left. They won't be happy until we are an entirely socialist country. When was the last time any Demorat was for lowering taxes and for making the government smaller?

oleman47
04-17-2001, 03:22 PM
Big Daddy
Since my life has been spent or misspent as it might be, immersed in the free market, I have the credentials to equal the most vosciferous conservative. I also have lived through various regimes of conservative and leftist hypocrisy.
The three major portions of government growth are:
#1. Population growth
#2. Peace time army, navy, air force and related research and development. NASA, Intelligience agencies, etc.
#3. Old age programs such as Social Security, Medicare, Nursing Home care, etc.

The largest ratio decrease in size of Federal Govt was under Clinton!

Social Security and Medicare are socialistic and I think should be extended to all Medical care and energy. Also roads, airports, dams, parks, etc. are all socialistic.
By our very words of a gov't for all, many things only a gov't can do are by definition socialistic.

I think an average flat tax of 25% that included payroll taxes and sales tax, fees, etc. without deducts would be a great thing. However, as we have seen the conservatives want a low flat tax that does not include payroll and has deducts.

In fairness to the Demos, they were/are for tax cuts and a pay down of the Repubs debt while maintaining a functioning gov't.

Baby Lee
04-17-2001, 04:12 PM
except Chinese food and since what we eat has no resemblance to real Chinese food I think I'm safe...

Seems to me, even if your Chinese food was perfectly 'authentic,' I would still most probably be prepared by an american citizen [or at least resident], using local meats and veggies. Don't see how that aids and abets the Chi-coms.

OTOH - is you're buying some of that canned fruit imported from China, that's different.

JC-Johnny
xoxo
preserving his gastronomic options.

BIG_DADDY
04-17-2001, 04:51 PM
Oleman,

I am trying to reach some middle ground with you here and do believe that there are good democrats and VERY bad republicans however the only thing the Clintong administration made smaller was the military. While he was destroying the military he also gave us the single largest tax increase in the history of our country. That combined with a major invasion of our privacy and freedoms makes Clintong a VERY BAD DEMORAT. I often wonder how much we are paying to have the government spy on it's own citizens (carnivore etc..). When I look at government growth I am speaking of the expansive powers of the government over the citizenry. BTW, more people were arrested for possession of MJ during the Clintong administration than any other as well. This is a huge expansion of GOVERNMENT power and needs to be stopped. No citizen of this country should ever have to pay more than 25% total taxation ever. BOTH republicans and democrats need to work twords this. If that is all we give them there will be some hard choices that will have to be made.

KCWolfman
04-17-2001, 09:53 PM
Donald - My point is the same as yours. You find it silly to boycott China when you have a computer that is produced in China. I find it just as silly to complain about wasted energy, heating, ozone depletion, etc. when you continue to use electricity for something as unnecessary as posting on a BB.

You are right it is impossible to boycott China if you use a computer. It is also impossible to complain about global warming if you use one as well.

oleman47
04-17-2001, 10:42 PM
Russ

oleman47
04-17-2001, 11:03 PM
Russ,
My cat just posted again.

It is not just conservation that will help, although abolishment of computers might put a temporary dent in the yearly progression for one year, but the use of alternative energy sources. "silly"?

jbar
04-18-2001, 09:34 AM
Sadly I had not considered this but it is a great idea!

TheFly
04-18-2001, 01:25 PM
Look at the label before you buy... boycott China on all new purchases!!!!!

Iowanian
04-18-2001, 01:29 PM
what was the product in which the commercial had a little chinaman who said "Ancient Chinese secret"

I think it was soap or stain remover...anybody know.

DanT
04-18-2001, 01:46 PM
That was for Calgon, which I know is a water-softener. The Calgon laundry product might also be a detergent. I'll check.

Here's one of many Internet sources calling it Calgon, most of them call that product a laundry detergent, but I'm not sure they're correct, as the product name is supposed to suggest "calcium gone", which means it softens the water:

http://televisioncommercials.com/home/home_main.asp

DanT
04-18-2001, 02:04 PM
Yeah, Calgon is a water softener, not a detergent. It helps you get better performance from your laundry detergent by softening the water.

http://muextension.missouri.edu/xplor/hesguide/clothing/gh0134.htm

The Calgon brand is also on some bath products ("Calgon, take me away!"). A key feature of those brands is that they soften the bath water.

Iowanian
04-18-2001, 02:05 PM
dan,

For some reason I'm thinking "woolite"?

DanT
04-18-2001, 02:25 PM
I'm fairly positive it's Calgon. You can do a search on Yahoo for

+"ancient chinese secret" +commercial

and look at the results.

One of them actually has a sould clip of that commercial plus a bunch of other classic commercials from the 70's:

http://www.rt66.com/dthomas/70s/adulttv/adulttv.html

Speaking of Woolite, that's basically dish detergent with some fabric brighteners in it. One could save money by just using the dish soap, especially on dark-colored sweaters. Folks who put a premium on bright, shiny clothes go with Woolite. Similarly, they might splurge by using Calgon in addition to their regular laundry detergent, especially if the water is very hard where they live.

OK, we've about exhausted all I know about laundry chemicals. ;)

KCWolfman
04-19-2001, 07:02 AM
Dan is right, it was Calgon

BTW - No, we cannot stop the wholesale purchase of Chinese products, but if we purchase alternatives when alternatives are available, then a serious dent will be made.

I know I am following the lead and stopping all possible purchases of Chinese products.

Archie F. Swin
04-19-2001, 08:23 AM
. . . I dont feel the need here.

You people have lost your damn minds. Boycott China?
Give me a break. What . . . did you just find out they were a Communist county?

Of all the things we could worry about . . . Isn't it a little late to worry about some silly communist country?

HC_Chief
04-19-2001, 09:18 AM
How, praytell, do you people intend to 'boycott' Chinese goods? AMERICAN MADE products typically contain components which were manufactured in Taiwan, Hong Kong or mainland China. Same goes for Japanese products... Canadian products... products from Europe.

KCWolfman
04-19-2001, 09:23 AM
CRP - It is not about being a communist nation. It is about the theft of our plane.

No, you cannot boycott everything from China; However, if two products are available and one is not from China, then you can make a dent in their economy.

HC_Chief
04-19-2001, 09:28 AM
BUT, it would be counterproductive to your point if you were to mistakenly boycott an item produced in Taiwan or Hong Kong. Both can be considered 'Chinese' maketables and labeled as such - yet are not at all associated with the corrupt ruling body of said nation.

KCWolfman
04-19-2001, 09:58 AM
HC - A little research must be done first; however, most products produced in Hong Kong and Tawain are clearly labeled as such.

Again, a full boycott cannot be attained, but even a dent in their already volatile trade and economic situations is enough to send a clear message.

Even the dems agree with me on this point as ALL of congress is now considering trade sanctions with many Chinese products.

I don't have the article in front of me, but go to Washingtonpost.com and search under +china +trade +sanctions. Many liberal democrats are seriously considering backing the sanctions if employed.

Archie F. Swin
04-19-2001, 10:21 AM
Liberal Democrats are trying to show disapproval of human rights issues in China. I doubt that many(libs) are concerned about the so-called theft of some busted *** P-3 Orion. That aircraft is of no use intelligence-wise to China. They're just saying "neener neener neener . . . look what we got"

With this "boycott" talk your trying to associate Chinese economic strength will Chinese military/political zeal. I just dont see how you "put a dent" in one and affect the other.