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Marlboro_Chief
05-15-2007, 11:36 AM
RIP

greg63
05-15-2007, 11:38 AM
RIP Jerry.

BigMeatballDave
05-15-2007, 11:38 AM
Boo ****ing HOO

BIG_DADDY
05-15-2007, 11:41 AM
I think they will find that Tinky-Winky may have been behind this. Wacked him with his handbag or something.

Braincase
05-15-2007, 11:41 AM
WAIT! You're supposed to take Fred Phelps with you!

BigMeatballDave
05-15-2007, 11:43 AM
I think they will find that Tinky-Winky may have been behind this. Wacked him with his handbag or something.
ROFL :clap:

MOhillbilly
05-15-2007, 11:43 AM
lightning?

DenverChief
05-15-2007, 11:44 AM
WAIT! You're supposed to take Fred Phelps with you!

LMAO :thumb:

Saulbadguy
05-15-2007, 11:44 AM
hahahaha

Ultra Peanut
05-15-2007, 11:45 AM
I think they will find that Tinky-Winky may have been behind this. Wacked him with his handbag or something.It's ALWAYS Tinky Winky's fault.

Dipsy did some of that shit.

HolmeZz
05-15-2007, 11:46 AM
Sweet. Totally had'em in my death pool.

BIG_DADDY
05-15-2007, 11:46 AM
LMAO :thumb:

Do you own a handbag Deputy Winky? LMAO

Marlboro_Chief
05-15-2007, 11:47 AM
I can't wait to hear PastorMikH's thoughts and insights on the wonderful life of Rev. Fallwell.

greg63
05-15-2007, 11:50 AM
Wow; I knew the guy was unpopular but I hadn't realized that he would garnish less condolence sentiment then did Hitler.

Saulbadguy
05-15-2007, 11:50 AM
I can't wait to hear PastorMikH's thoughts and insights on the wonderful life of Rev. Fallwell.
Why?

DenverChief
05-15-2007, 11:51 AM
Do you own a handbag Deputy Winky? LMAO

Only if you buy me one suga daddy:)

Saulbadguy
05-15-2007, 11:51 AM
Wow; I knew the guy was unpopular but I hadn't realized that he would garnish less condolence sentiment then did Hitler.
Were you around when Hitler died?

Braincase
05-15-2007, 11:52 AM
Wow; I knew the guy was unpopular but I hadn't realized that he would garnish less condolence sentiment then did Hitler.

My deepest sympathies to the pallbearers that have to lug his fat ass to the pit.

Count Zarth
05-15-2007, 11:52 AM
And not soon enough.

Ultra Peanut
05-15-2007, 11:52 AM
I can't wait to hear PastorMikH's thoughts and insights on the wonderful life of Rev. Fallwell.J-J-J-Jimmy Stewart!

memyselfI
05-15-2007, 11:52 AM
Like I said in DC, not the birthday present I'd hoped for no matter how little I think of the guy...

Redrum_69
05-15-2007, 11:53 AM
Per Wikipedia....

Falwell was a controversial subject for his theological, political and social beliefs. After the September 11, 2001, attacks Falwell said on the 700 Club, "I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People For the American Way, all of them who have tried to secularize America. I point the finger in their face and say 'you helped this happen.'" (a sentiment with which Pat Robertson concurred). [25] After heavy criticism, Falwell apologized. [26]. As for homosexuality, Falwell remarked, "AIDS is the wrath of a just God against homosexuals." Falwell's ghostwriter, Mel White, said Falwell remarked about gay protesters, "Thank God for these gay demonstrators. If I didn't have them, I'd have to invent them. They give me all the publicity I need."[8]

During the Civil Rights Movement Falwell was a supporter of racial segregation. He said this about Martin Luther King, "I do question the sincerity of people like the Reverend Martin Luther King..."[citation needed]

Falwell has also said, "Labor unions should study and read the Bible instead of asking for more money. When people get right with God, they are better workers."[27] Regarding public schools, "I hope to see the day when, as in the early days of our country, we don't have public schools. The churches will have taken them over again and Christians will be running them." (America Can Be Saved!, Sword of the Lord Publishers, Murfreesboro, Tenn. 1979, p. 52-53.)[28]

In February 1999, an article in Falwell's National Liberty Journal suggested that a Teletubbies character, Tinky Winky, could be a hidden homosexual symbol, because the character was purple (which the article claimed was a color symbolic of homosexuality), had an inverted triangle on his head and carried a handbag. ( The pink triangles was used as a badge to denote homosexuals in Nazi concentration camps, and has since been adopted as an emblem by gay-rights movements.) Falwell denied any personal involvement with the original article, and made clear he never had any prior knowledge of or concern with the Teletubbies. Falwell's organization said the author of the article was simply repeating what others in the media were already saying about the nature of the character [29]. In the months following this incident, Falwell received a number of Tinky Winky plush dolls via mail, most of which he has given to his grandchildren.[citation needed]

Falwell often attributed political affiliation to the divine, claiming that God "is a Republican" [30] and Jesus "was the First American."

BigMeatballDave
05-15-2007, 11:53 AM
And not soon enough.
:)

greg63
05-15-2007, 11:53 AM
Were you around when Hitler died?


No, I just used him as a sarcastic point of reference.

Ultra Peanut
05-15-2007, 11:53 AM
GAYS DID 5/15

Groves
05-15-2007, 11:54 AM
Aww shucky shucky now

chagrin
05-15-2007, 11:54 AM
NOw would be a good time for the MODS to enact Logical's idea of "ignore this thread"

great just what we need, another Christian bashing thread, yay

Saulbadguy
05-15-2007, 11:54 AM
GAYS DID 5/15
NEVAR FORGET

SBK
05-15-2007, 11:54 AM
He was a nice guy, I enjoyed my chances to talk with him.

The guy did a lot with his life.

Ultra Peanut
05-15-2007, 11:55 AM
NOw would be a good time for the MODS to enact Logical's idea of "ignore this thread"

great just what we need, another Christian bashing thread, yayWHY PEOPLE DON'T DID LIKE THIS DEAD PERSON

WOE IS ME

WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF ANNA NICOLE'S CHILDREN

The guy did a lot with his life.So did... HITLER!

Mi_chief_fan
05-15-2007, 11:55 AM
Like I said in DC, not the birthday present I'd hoped for no matter how little I think of the guy...

OK, we get it: today is your birthday.


Happy birthday, I hope you DO get what you want.

BigMeatballDave
05-15-2007, 11:55 AM
My deepest sympathies to the pallbearers that have to lug his fat ass to the pit.
ROFL

BigMeatballDave
05-15-2007, 11:56 AM
He was a nice guy, I enjoyed my chances to talk with him.

The guy did a lot with his life.He was an ignorant ****.

Cochise
05-15-2007, 11:56 AM
I can't wait to hear PastorMikH's thoughts and insights on the wonderful life of Rev. Fallwell.

What makes you think he's a fan? Just because he's a pastor?

Saulbadguy
05-15-2007, 11:57 AM
NOw would be a good time for the MODS to enact Logical's idea of "ignore this thread"

great just what we need, another Christian bashing thread, yay
Funny, you were the first person to say "Christian" other than Redrums wikipedia post.

Cochise
05-15-2007, 11:57 AM
So did... HITLER!

Great job of keeping things in perspective.

Micjones
05-15-2007, 11:58 AM
Falwell certainly wasn't without fault, but it's still sad that he passed. My heart goes out to his family.

Pitt Gorilla
05-15-2007, 11:59 AM
Wow; I knew the guy was unpopular but I hadn't realized that he would garnish less condolence sentiment then did Hitler.Now I'm curious; exactly how much condolence sentiment did Hitler garnish? What metric does one use to measure such a thing?

Redrum_69
05-15-2007, 12:01 PM
Now I'm curious; exactly how much condolence sentiment did Hitler garnish? What metric does one use to measure such a thing?


Obviously a pistol would be a good metric to measure with.

Ultra Peanut
05-15-2007, 12:01 PM
What makes you think he's a fan? Just because he's a pastor?You know the gay jew smut peddler conspiracy? Well, there's a pastor one, too.

Great job of keeping things in perspective.Why, thank you.

Cochise
05-15-2007, 12:02 PM
Like I said in the other thread, I find a lot of the things he said and taught on religion to be dubious, he had a lot of mistakes in his past.

But he did some good things, he encouraged religious people to take part in the political process and that voters should assert that values and character matter.

A parodoxical figure, to be certain, but one who still falls under the blanket respect owed to the dead.

crazycoffey
05-15-2007, 12:02 PM
Like I said in DC, not the birthday present I'd hoped for no matter how little I think of the guy...



I was having a great Birthday until I discovered I share the day with you.....


OH well, Have a happy birthday MEME.:toast:

SBK
05-15-2007, 12:02 PM
He was an ignorant ****.

So you've met him too?

I understand that he's an evil religious person :rolleyes:, but the guy started the largest Christian University in the WORLD, has a huge church and has influenced millions of people. He also has homes for unwed mothers, adoption agencies, retirement communities for grandparents to help raise children of single parents.

Like him or not, the guy lived exactly what he preached. The world lost a great man today.

chagrin
05-15-2007, 12:02 PM
Funny, you were the first person to say "Christian" other than Redrums wikipedia post.


I just call it like I see it dude. We all know it's coming, I just wanted to get my comment in now. I would hope that it stays with Falwell only, I just don't believe it will. I would love to be incorrect.

memyselfI
05-15-2007, 12:03 PM
I was having a great Birthday until I discovered I share the day with you.....


OH well, Have a happy birthday MEME.:toast:

Ok, I share a BDay with George Brett, the death of one of my most disdained rivals, and a birthday with you...

wow. HB to you as well. :p

Mr. Laz
05-15-2007, 12:03 PM
I'm torn

chagrin
05-15-2007, 12:03 PM
I was having a great Birthday until I discovered I share the day with you.....


OH well, Have a happy birthday MEME.:toast:


haha, poor bastard

greg63
05-15-2007, 12:03 PM
Now I'm curious; exactly how much condolence sentiment did Hitler garnish? What metric does one use to measure such a thing?


Again the Hitler reference was one of sarcasm.

Count Zarth
05-15-2007, 12:03 PM
The world is a better place today.

DaFace
05-15-2007, 12:04 PM
NOw would be a good time for the MODS to enact Logical's idea of "ignore this thread"

great just what we need, another Christian bashing thread, yay

I'd argue that it's more about this particular Christian than Christianity in general. Falwell is not as bad as Phelps by any means, but would you say that all threads bashing Phelps are "Christian bashing threads"?

Count Zarth
05-15-2007, 12:05 PM
Falwell's university destroys lives.

crazycoffey
05-15-2007, 12:07 PM
Ok, I share a BDay with George Brett, the death of one of my most disdained rivals, and a birthday with you...

wow. HB to you as well. :p


Ah HA!!! So you finally admit you ARE the Devil!

J/K :)

Cochise
05-15-2007, 12:10 PM
I'd argue that it's more about this particular Christian than Christianity in general. Falwell is not as bad as Phelps by any means, but would you say that all threads bashing Phelps are "Christian bashing threads"?

I agree with you. I think what he is saying though, is that while most people know to separate Falwell/Robertson/Phelps et al, from the entire faith the group around here who enjoys bashing Christianity for sport can not (or just prefers a caricature to work with).

Braincase
05-15-2007, 12:11 PM
The first person Jerry will meet in heaven is Liberace, who will retort, "Now you aren't going to see St. Peter wearing THAT, are you?".

Cochise
05-15-2007, 12:11 PM
Falwell's university destroys lives.

Keep trying. You're bound to get some attention eventually.

DaFace
05-15-2007, 12:12 PM
I agree with you. I think what he is saying though, is that while most people know to separate Falwell/Robertson/Phelps et al, from the entire faith the group around here who enjoys bashing Christianity for sport can not (or just prefers a caricature to work with).

That I can agree with.

Pitt Gorilla
05-15-2007, 12:13 PM
I just call it like I see it dude. We all know it's coming, I just wanted to get my comment in now. I would hope that it stays with Falwell only, I just don't believe it will. I would love to be incorrect.Ah, the old preemptive-strike-to-ensure-that-it-happens bit. Classic.

Brock
05-15-2007, 12:14 PM
Ah, the old preemptive-strike-to-ensure-that-it-happens bit. Classic.

yeah, right. The way some of these people are behaving, you'd think Al Sharpton died.

Redrum_69
05-15-2007, 12:14 PM
Keep trying. You're bound to get some attention eventually.


Dont aggitate Darth Mangina.

Hes liable to link a WPI thread

Cochise
05-15-2007, 12:15 PM
Ah, the old preemptive-strike-to-ensure-that-it-happens bit. Classic.

Did you really think the "Jerry Falwell Dead" topic was going to remain civil?

Ultra Peanut
05-15-2007, 12:15 PM
yeah, right. The way some of these people are behaving, you'd think Al Sharpton died.ANYONE WHO THINKS SHARPTON IS A DOUCHE IS A RACIST

Mecca
05-15-2007, 12:17 PM
It's hard to feel sympathy when someone said as many misguided things as Falwell and really believed them....

BIG_DADDY
05-15-2007, 12:18 PM
OK, we get it: today is your birthday.


Happy birthday Denise, I hope you DO get what you want.

A bomb vest? :shrug:

JohnnyV13
05-15-2007, 12:19 PM
Jerry Falwell=man who seized political power by using religion as a club. I'm certain he's having a long conversation with the man downstairs.

Ultra Peanut
05-15-2007, 12:20 PM
Falwell's death is the wrath of a just God against hate-filled bigots. To be sad would be like an Israelite jumping in the Red Sea to save one of Pharaoh's charioteers.

Baconeater
05-15-2007, 12:23 PM
I was having a great Birthday until I discovered I share the day with you.....


OH well, Have a happy birthday MEME.:toast:
Haha, that's almost as bad as who I share mine with.

BIG_DADDY
05-15-2007, 12:25 PM
Falwell's death is the wrath of a just God against hate-filled bigots. To be sad would be like an Israelite jumping in the Red Sea to save one of Pharaoh's charioteers.

How many psychotropic drugs are you on dude?

Ultra Peanut
05-15-2007, 12:32 PM
How many psychotropic drugs are you on dude?Unfortunately, I can't take credit for that simile (http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Jerry_Falwell#On_AIDS_and_homosexuality).

Redrum_69
05-15-2007, 12:35 PM
How many psychotropic drugs are you on dude?


He's a female pitbull trapped in a guys body

BIG_DADDY
05-15-2007, 12:37 PM
He's a female pitbull trapped in a guys body ROFL

Ultra Peanut
05-15-2007, 12:38 PM
BD, you laugh at the dumbest shit.

L.A. Chieffan
05-15-2007, 12:41 PM
This is a sad sad day.

ChiefsfaninPA
05-15-2007, 12:43 PM
Who the F#$k is Jerry Falwell? Just asking.

Frazod
05-15-2007, 12:46 PM
Jerry Falwell=man who seized political power by using religion as a club. I'm certain he's having a long conversation with the man downstairs.
My sentiments exactly. To hell with all these televangelist hypocrit shitbags.

Somebody should toss a couple of fire extinguishers in the coffin with him - he'll need 'em. :grr:

BIG_DADDY
05-15-2007, 12:47 PM
BD, you laugh at the dumbest shit. ROFL

Planetman
05-15-2007, 12:51 PM
*Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiing*

Hello?

Jerry?

Yes, this is Jerry. Who is this?

Jerry, this is God.

Oh, *gulp* hello, Lord.

You know why I'm calling, don't you?

Actually, no, I have no idea.

Remember that little stunt you pulled several years ago?

What stunt?

Oh come on, I know you remember.

Honest, Lord, I don't know what you're talking about.

Jerry! You know! The stunt where you said I was going to call you home?

What!? Hey! That wasn't me! That was Oral Roberts!

What? Ooops. My bad. Well, since I've already dialed the phone and all ...

*lightning strikes Jerry, dead*

Mr. Laz
05-15-2007, 12:58 PM
Who the F#$k is Jerry Falwell? Just asking.
http://images.encarta.msn.com/xrefmedia/sharemed/targets/images/pho/t028/T028273A.jpg

"If you're not a born-again Christian, you're a failure as a human being."
-- Rev Jerry Falwell (attributed: source unknown)

"I had a student ask me, "Could the savior you believe in save Osama bin Laden?" Of course, we know the blood of Jesus Christ can save him, and then he must be executed.
-- Rev Jerry Falwell, cited in Cary McMullen, "Falwell: Now Is the Time for Gospel,"

"God continues to lift the curtain and allow the enemies of America to give us probably what we deserve."
-- Rev Jerry Falwell, blaming civil libertarians, feminists, homosexuals, and abortion rights supporters for the terrorist attacks of Tuesday, September 11, 2001, to which Rev Pat Robertson agreed, quoted from John F Harris, "God Gave US 'What We Deserve,' Falwell Says," The Washington Post (September 14, 2001)

"The ACLU's got to take a lot of blame for this."
-- Rev Jerry Falwell, blaming civil libertarians for the terrorist attacks of Tuesday, September 11, 2001, to which Rev Pat Robertson again agreed, quoted from AANEWS #958 by American Atheists (September 14, 2001)


"I put all the blame legally and morally on the actions of the terrorist, [but America's] secular and anti-Christian environment left us open to our Lord's [decision] not to protect. When a nation deserts God and expels God from the culture ... the result is not good."
-- Rev Jerry Falwell, backpedaling amidst criticism of his statement blaming civil libertarians, feminists, homosexuals, and abortion rights supporters for the terrorist attacks of Tuesday, September 11, 2001

"I hope I live to see the day when, as in the early days of our country, we won't have any public schools. The churches will have taken them over again and Christians will be running them. What a happy day that will be!"
-- Rev Jerry Falwell, America Can Be Saved, 1979 pp. 52-53, from Albert J Menendez and Edd Doerr, The Great Quotations on Religious Freedom

"AIDS is not just God's punishment for homosexuals; it is God's punishment for the society that tolerates homosexuals."
-- Jerry Falwell (attributed: source unknown)

"The idea that religion and politics don't mix was invented by the Devil to keep Christians from running their own country."
-- Rev Jerry Falwell, Sermon, July 4, 1976


"There is no separation of church and state. Modern US Supreme Courts have raped the Constitution and raped the Christian faith and raped the churches by misinterpreting what the Founders had in mind in the First Amendment to the Constitution."
-- Jerry Falwell (attributed: source unknown)

"Grown men should not be having sex with prostitutes unless they are married to them."
-- Jerry Falwell, on CNN's Crossfire, May 17, 1997

"Billy Graham is the chief servant of Satan."
-- Rev Jerry Falwell (attributed: source unknown)

The ACLU is to Christians what the American Nazi party is to Jews.
-- Rev Jerry Falwell (attributed: source unknown)

"AIDS is the wrath of a just God against homosexuals. To oppose it would be like an Israelite jumping in the Red Sea to save one of Pharoah's chariotters."
-- Rev Jerry Falwell (attributed: source unknown)

Iowanian
05-15-2007, 01:01 PM
Nothing but class shown in here....

Brock
05-15-2007, 01:03 PM
Oreos are tasty. (attributed: source unknown)

Ultra Peanut
05-15-2007, 01:07 PM
Nothing but class shown in here....Nothing says class like blaming millions of innocent people for a horrible tragedy as a means of advancing your personal crusade!

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Count Zarth
05-15-2007, 01:09 PM
snip Falwell douchebaggery

Jesus Christ. Falwell was worse than I imagined. Annual pilgrimmages should be made to his grave for excretory tributes.

beer bacon
05-15-2007, 01:11 PM
NOw would be a good time for the MODS to enact Logical's idea of "ignore this thread"

great just what we need, another Christian bashing thread, yay

Christian is a rather broad brush. I consider myself a Christian, but I share very little in common with Falwell's ilk.

Iowanian
05-15-2007, 01:11 PM
OK. (Attributed: Source Unknown)

Count Zarth
05-15-2007, 01:12 PM
"The idea that religion and politics don't mix was invented by the Devil to keep Christians from running their own country."


GOD BLESS THE DEVIL!

Baby Lee
05-15-2007, 01:13 PM
I'm confused, so if a guy's a real dick, being hate-filled is a good thing?

Count Zarth
05-15-2007, 01:13 PM
"Billy Graham is the chief servant of Satan."



OK so he's not all bad.

Mr. Laz
05-15-2007, 01:15 PM
OK. (Attributed: Source Unknown)
so are you and brock trying to say the quotes aren't true?

heck ... UP just posted an audio file so you can hear Falwell say several of them himself.


Falwell is Phelps-lite

Reaper16
05-15-2007, 01:16 PM
This thread rules.

Cochise
05-15-2007, 01:17 PM
(Attributed: Source Unknown)


That one must have come from WPI.

sedated
05-15-2007, 01:19 PM
I hope Pat Robertson is next

Chief Chief
05-15-2007, 01:20 PM
Active content removed Active content removed (Attributed: Source Unknown)

Iowanian
05-15-2007, 01:23 PM
so are you and brock trying to say the quotes aren't true?

heck ... UP just posted an audio file so you can hear Falwell say several of them himself.


Falwell is Phelps-lite


I have no idea. I'm not a falwell fan, but I'd think if you were going to quote that stuff, you'd make a stronger point if it weren't invented by an imaginary friend of the author.

Are you saying they ARE all actual quotes?



*Open door for the religion haters to take that high hanger

Mr. Flopnuts
05-15-2007, 01:26 PM
ANYONE WHO DOESN'T KNOW SHARPTON IS A RACIST IS A DOUCHE


FYP

Chief Henry
05-15-2007, 01:31 PM
There's alot of HATE being posted in this thread.

Mr. Laz
05-15-2007, 01:32 PM
I have no idea. I'm not a falwell fan, but I'd think if you were going to quote that stuff, you'd make a stronger point if it weren't invented by an imaginary friend of the author.

Are you saying they ARE all actual quotes?

*Open door for the religion haters to take that high hanger
i haven't found any reason to believe they aren't true

like i said ... you just heard the audio on a few

do a google search ... jerry falwell's extreme stance on issues is pretty well documented.


if it was just 1 quote, i would feel the need for a more concrete source for each and every one of them.

But he's said many,many similar things with reliable sources which coincides with the other "unknown sources"

Reaper16
05-15-2007, 01:33 PM
There's alot of HATE being posted in this thread.
I hate the Cardinals and I hate you.

Count Zarth
05-15-2007, 01:37 PM
Anyone know what his son his like? I hear Jerry Jr. is an even bigger douche.

'Hamas' Jenkins
05-15-2007, 01:39 PM
The guy was a pathetic excuse for a human being. Did I hate him? No. Would he hate me, if he knew my beliefs? Hell yeah.

Do I feel bad for his family? I guess, but other than that, eh, shit happens.

beer bacon
05-15-2007, 01:39 PM
There's alot of HATE being posted in this thread.

What do you expect from a Jerry Falwell thread?

Ultra Peanut
05-15-2007, 01:42 PM
There's alot of HATE being posted in this thread.Yeah, it's kind of a shame that people feel the need to quote that asshole.

ChiTown
05-15-2007, 01:46 PM
Anyone who was as outspoken as he was, will have his fair share of vocal detractors. I am one of them for sure.

That said, I won't piss on his grave now that he's gone, just because I didn't share in his religious righteousness.

Iowanian
05-15-2007, 01:57 PM
I'm not a huge fan of the guy, but in this case, I think I'd at least wait until his body was room temperature to make jokes.

He had extreme views that didn't align with mine in many, many cases, but he's not in the same class as Fred Phelptard or Saddom.

i haven't found any reason to believe they aren't true

like i said ... you just heard the audio on a few

do a google search ... jerry falwell's extreme stance on issues is pretty well documented.


if it was just 1 quote, i would feel the need for a more concrete source for each and every one of them.

But he's said many,many similar things with reliable sources which coincides with the other "unknown sources"

journeyscarab
05-15-2007, 02:00 PM
Wait til Pat Robertson kicks. ;)

Dave Lane
05-15-2007, 02:02 PM
The world is a better place today.


Rep and Yep

Dave

Ultra Peanut
05-15-2007, 02:06 PM
he's not in the same class as Fred PhelptardHe blamed people who disagreed with him on political issues for 9/11. He called AIDS the "gay plague" and blasted churches who sought to include homosexuals. He said he believed Muhammad was a terrorist. He longed for the day when every child was taught at a church instead of a school. He was a segregationist in the '50s and '60s, said he didn't trust Martin Luther King, and supported Apartheid in the '80s.

He was, for all intents and purposes, a media-savvy Fred Phelps. Actually, on that last point, even Phelps fought for Civil Rights before he went batshit insane. Here's Falwell's take on the issue, from 1958:

"If Chief Justice Warren and his associates had known Godís word and had desired to do the Lordís will, I am quite confident that the 1954 decision would never have been mad. The facilities should be separate. When God has drawn a line of distinction, we should not attempt to cross that line."

SBK
05-15-2007, 02:14 PM
He blamed people who disagreed with him on political issues for 9/11. He called AIDS the "gay plague" and blasted churches who sought to include homosexuals. He said he believed Muhammad was a terrorist. He longed for the day when every child was taught at a church instead of a school. He was a segregationist in the '50s and '60s, said he didn't trust Martin Luther King, and supported Apartheid in the '80s.

He was, for all intents and purposes, a media-savvy Fred Phelps. Actually, on that last point, even Phelps fought for Civil Rights before he went batshit insane. Here's Falwell's take on the issue, from 1958:

"If Chief Justice Warren and his associates had known Godís word and had desired to do the Lordís will, I am quite confident that the 1954 decision would never have been mad. The facilities should be separate. When God has drawn a line of distinction, we should not attempt to cross that line."

You couldn't be more wrong. Phelps has picketed Falwell a ton. I saw him picket Falwell's church when they had hundreds of homosexual folks out to have a dialogue.

Phelps says God hates fags, Falwell was the exact opposite.

Ultra Peanut
05-15-2007, 02:18 PM
Phelps says God hates Rump Rangers, Falwell was the exact opposite.God doesn't hate gay people! He just made them prone to committing a sin; you know, like everyone else, only somehow worse and more nasty for some reason that's not exactly clear to anyone! That's why their behavior is an abomination, while the behavior of people who are fat or get divorced isn't focused on, and that's why I have to single them out as some sort of insidious, corrupting force that's ruining our country! That's why we have to keep them from having the same rights as others, because, well, because I say so!

And I'm not a racist, but those black people...

'Hamas' Jenkins
05-15-2007, 02:19 PM
Falwell was the exact opposite.

ROFL ROFL

As for homosexuality, Falwell remarked, "AIDS is the wrath of a just God against homosexuals"

So wishing death upon people is just and displays no hatred...ok.

Cochise
05-15-2007, 02:20 PM
You couldn't be more wrong. Phelps has picketed Falwell a ton. I saw him picket Falwell's church when they had hundreds of homosexual folks out to have a dialogue.

Phelps says God hates Rump Rangers, Falwell was the exact opposite.

Don't bother... what he hates, he hates.

Just sit back and wait for the capital letters...

Ultra Peanut
05-15-2007, 02:21 PM
They're starting to trickle in!

http://i7.tinypic.com/4l5aku9.jpg

BIG_DADDY
05-15-2007, 02:25 PM
God doesn't hate gay people! He just made them prone to committing a sin; you know, like everyone else, only somehow worse and more nasty for some reason that's not exactly clear to anyone! That's why their behavior is an abomination, while the behavior of people who are fat or get divorced isn't focused on, and that's why I have to single them out as some sort of insidious, corrupting force that's ruining our country! That's why we have to keep them from having the same rights as others, because, well, because I say so!

And I'm not a racist, but those black people...

OK psycho.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3ca_1176954615

BIG_DADDY
05-15-2007, 02:28 PM
Don't bother... what he hates, he hates.

Just sit back and wait for the capital letters...

Must be the hormones. :)

Ultra Peanut
05-15-2007, 02:28 PM
Oh sweet Jesus, the WBC is going to be picketing the funeral. This is going to be AMAZING.

OK psycho.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3ca_1176954615Throwing non sequiturs into threads is MY job. Step the **** off.

Must be the hormones. :)Oh, I get it. You have cleverly alluded to completely irrelevant personal issues that have been referenced countless times already. That is truly the limit!

PIT BULLS PREMATURE BABIES ROFLCOPTERS

SBK
05-15-2007, 02:44 PM
ROFL ROFL

As for homosexuality, Falwell remarked, "AIDS is the wrath of a just God against homosexuals"

So wishing death upon people is just and displays no hatred...ok.

I'm waiting to see where he wished death to homosexuals. Did you post the wrong quote or something?

BIG_DADDY
05-15-2007, 02:45 PM
Oh sweet Jesus, the WBC is going to be picketing the funeral. This is going to be AMAZING.

Throwing non sequiturs into threads is MY job. Step the **** off.

Oh, I get it. You have cleverly alluded to completely irrelevant personal issues that have been referenced countless times already. That is truly the limit!



Like your hate filled rants here don't involve your personal issues. :rolleyes: Why don't you do something nice today and call your mother.


Oh nevermnind.

KC Dan
05-15-2007, 02:49 PM
Like your hate filled rants here don't involve your personal issues. :rolleyes: Why don't you do something nice today and call your mother.


Oh nevermnind.
The test tube couldn't answer the phone...:)

Ultra Peanut
05-15-2007, 02:53 PM
The test tube couldn't answer the phone...:)I may be a test tube baby, but at least I didn't run a speakeasy in Alabama, you... you!

Seriously, now: What?

KC Dan
05-15-2007, 02:54 PM
I may be a test tube baby, but at least I didn't run a speakeasy in Alabama, you... you!

Seriously, now: What?
hehe :)

BIG_DADDY
05-15-2007, 02:57 PM
hehe :)

You laugh at stupid shit dude.

KC Dan
05-15-2007, 02:58 PM
You laugh at stupid shit dude.
it's the sake! It's not me...

BIG_DADDY
05-15-2007, 03:00 PM
it's the sake! It's not me...

We went there last night for the first time in a very long time as she couldn't eat sushi. The hamachi sashimi was awesome. I have to start looking for another place or only go there when a certain chef is working. Their prices keep going up and the pieces are getting smaller.

BIG_DADDY
05-15-2007, 03:03 PM
The test tube couldn't answer the phone...:)

UP could make anyone want to reconsider parenting.

Adept Havelock
05-15-2007, 03:03 PM
There's alot of HATE being posted in this thread.


Well, like the book the man claimed to preach says...."Whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap."


To paraphrase the Dolphins: Jerry, So Long and Thanks for all the Hate.


.

Cochise
05-15-2007, 03:03 PM
Like your hate filled rants here don't involve your personal issues. :rolleyes: Why don't you do something nice today and call your mother.


Oh nevermnind.

I bet it wasn't so funny when Judy Garland bought it. :harumph:

Ultra Peanut
05-15-2007, 03:09 PM
I bet it wasn't so funny when Judy Garland bought it. :harumph:Less funny, more faaaaaabulous.

Frazod
05-15-2007, 03:09 PM
There's alot of HATE being posted in this thread.

You say that like it's wrong. :huh:

Jenson71
05-15-2007, 03:43 PM
RIP.

I don't think he was a reasonable, embracing, loving man. He could have done a lot better than spreading hate and gaining influence and money through it.

Zebedee DuBois
05-15-2007, 04:17 PM
Somehow, I think of it less as him passing on, and more of God finally smiting him.

Thig Lyfe
05-15-2007, 04:20 PM
The first person Jerry will meet in heaven is Liberace, who will retort, "Now you aren't going to see St. Peter wearing THAT, are you?".

ROFL

Fairplay
05-15-2007, 04:34 PM
I don't know that much about Falwell. So i guess RIP dude.


I like Joel Osteen preaching though. He is always positive. Positive thinking type of sermons. Plus he doesn't shove the bible at you at all. Some religious people say thats a fault of his, that he needs more scriptures, needs more fire and brimstone from him.
I asked my brother what he thought of him (hes religious) and he doesn't like him, says the same thing. I just laugh at these type of people. You can't win.

GoHuge
05-15-2007, 04:39 PM
<img src=http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/7007/falwellsb6.png>

Cochise
05-15-2007, 04:53 PM
I like Joel Osteen preaching though. He is always positive. Positive thinking type of sermons. Plus he doesn't shove the bible at you at all. Some religious people say thats a fault of his, that he needs more scriptures... I just laugh at these type of people. You can't win.

If you want to read an honest critique of the theology you should read this book (http://www.amazon.com/Christianity-Crisis-Hank-Hanegraaff/dp/0890819769/ref=sr_1_1/102-7893178-2192902?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1179269580&sr=1-1). If you're interested :shrug:

Jenson71
05-15-2007, 05:54 PM
I don't know that much about Falwell. So i guess RIP dude.


I like Joel Osteen preaching though. He is always positive. Positive thinking type of sermons. Plus he doesn't shove the bible at you at all. Some religious people say thats a fault of his, that he needs more scriptures, needs more fire and brimstone from him.
I asked my brother what he thought of him (hes religious) and he doesn't like him, says the same thing. I just laugh at these type of people. You can't win.

Who couldn't be upbeat when you live in a mansion, travel around the country making millions by only saying "God wants you to be rich! Put a smile on your face!"

Smed1065
05-15-2007, 06:24 PM
ANYONE WHO THINKS SHARPTON IS A DOUCHE IS A RACIST

The Lacrosse Players must be a case of them then...........

Al Bundy
05-15-2007, 06:53 PM
Someone told me the Grim Reaper was coming for him...

mississippichiefan
05-15-2007, 06:58 PM
I don't understand the hate that is being shown here for the loss of a fellow human being . I pray that each will come to know The Lord Jesus Christ as their savior . If you have Jesus then you will be full of love and not the hate that is going on here . The one of you that said

Well, like the book the man claimed to preach says...."Whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap."


you would do well to listen to your own words

Frazod
05-15-2007, 07:07 PM
I don't understand the hate that is being shown here for the loss of a fellow human being . I pray that each will come to know The Lord Jesus Christ as their savior . If you have Jesus then you will be full of love and not the hate that is going on here . The one of you that said

Well, like the book the man claimed to preach says...."Whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap."


you would do well to listen to your own words

Somebody should have talked to Falwell about Jesus and loving his fellow man. On my worst day, I've got nothing on that hypocrit slimeball in the hate department.

chief husker
05-15-2007, 07:28 PM
Good riddance you friggin hate monger. BTW, peace on earth.

pikesome
05-15-2007, 07:43 PM
Larry Flynt is a bit more forgiving than many in this thread.

LYNCHBURG, Va (May 15, 2007) -- The Rev. Jerry Falwell, the folksy, small-town preacher who used the power of television to found the Moral Majority and turn the Christian right into a mighty force in American politics during the Reagan years, died Tuesday at 73.

One of Falwell's most memorable opponents was Hustler kingpin Larry Flynt, who had a very public legal battle with the Reverend over freedom of speech rights.

At the heart of the case was a satirical ad that ran in Hustler in 1983with the headline "Jerry Falwell Talks About His First Time," in which the magazine described a drunken Falwell having an incestuous encounter with his mother.

Falwell sued Flynt (pictured together on "Larry King Live" in 1997), alleging libel and intentional infliction of emotional distress.

However, the Supreme Court ruled that a public figure could not recover damages over distress based on satire under the umbrella of free speech.

Upon hearing of his death, Flynt released the following statement to Access Hollywood:

"The Reverend Jerry Falwell and I were arch enemies for fifteen years. We became involved in a lawsuit concerning First Amendment rights and Hustler magazine. Without question, this was my most important battle Ė the l988 Hustler Magazine, Inc., v. Jerry Falwell case, where after millions of dollars and much deliberation, the Supreme Court unanimously ruled in my favor.

My mother always told me that no matter how much you dislike a person, when you meet them face to face you will find characteristics about them that you like. Jerry Falwell was a perfect example of that. I hated everything he stood for, but after meeting him in person, years after the trial, Jerry Falwell and I became good friends. He would visit me in

California and we would debate together on college campuses. I always appreciated his sincerity even though I knew what he was selling and he knew what I was selling.

The most important result of our relationship was the landmark decision from the Supreme Court that made parody protected speech, and the fact that much of what we see on television and hear on the radio today is a direct result of my having won that now famous case which Falwell played such an important role in."

Falwell is survived by his wife, Macel, his two sons and a daughter, Jeannie Falwell Savas. Funeral arrangements were not immediately known.

Link (http://www.accesshollywood.com/news/ah5356.shtml)

the Talking Can
05-15-2007, 07:58 PM
Somehow, I think of it less as him passing on, and more of God finally smiting him.

rep

exactly, he was a coward and a hate monger...the only difference between him and Fred Phelps was a suit and hair spray

BigMeatballDave
05-16-2007, 01:49 AM
http://images.encarta.msn.com/xrefmedia/sharemed/targets/images/pho/t028/T028273A.jpg

"If you're not a born-again Christian, you're a failure as a human being."
-- Rev Jerry Falwell (attributed: source unknown)

"I had a student ask me, "Could the savior you believe in save Osama bin Laden?" Of course, we know the blood of Jesus Christ can save him, and then he must be executed.
-- Rev Jerry Falwell, cited in Cary McMullen, "Falwell: Now Is the Time for Gospel,"

"God continues to lift the curtain and allow the enemies of America to give us probably what we deserve."
-- Rev Jerry Falwell, blaming civil libertarians, feminists, homosexuals, and abortion rights supporters for the terrorist attacks of Tuesday, September 11, 2001, to which Rev Pat Robertson agreed, quoted from John F Harris, "God Gave US 'What We Deserve,' Falwell Says," The Washington Post (September 14, 2001)

"The ACLU's got to take a lot of blame for this."
-- Rev Jerry Falwell, blaming civil libertarians for the terrorist attacks of Tuesday, September 11, 2001, to which Rev Pat Robertson again agreed, quoted from AANEWS #958 by American Atheists (September 14, 2001)


"I put all the blame legally and morally on the actions of the terrorist, [but America's] secular and anti-Christian environment left us open to our Lord's [decision] not to protect. When a nation deserts God and expels God from the culture ... the result is not good."
-- Rev Jerry Falwell, backpedaling amidst criticism of his statement blaming civil libertarians, feminists, homosexuals, and abortion rights supporters for the terrorist attacks of Tuesday, September 11, 2001

"I hope I live to see the day when, as in the early days of our country, we won't have any public schools. The churches will have taken them over again and Christians will be running them. What a happy day that will be!"
-- Rev Jerry Falwell, America Can Be Saved, 1979 pp. 52-53, from Albert J Menendez and Edd Doerr, The Great Quotations on Religious Freedom

"AIDS is not just God's punishment for homosexuals; it is God's punishment for the society that tolerates homosexuals."
-- Jerry Falwell (attributed: source unknown)

"The idea that religion and politics don't mix was invented by the Devil to keep Christians from running their own country."
-- Rev Jerry Falwell, Sermon, July 4, 1976


"There is no separation of church and state. Modern US Supreme Courts have raped the Constitution and raped the Christian faith and raped the churches by misinterpreting what the Founders had in mind in the First Amendment to the Constitution."
-- Jerry Falwell (attributed: source unknown)

"Grown men should not be having sex with prostitutes unless they are married to them."
-- Jerry Falwell, on CNN's Crossfire, May 17, 1997

"Billy Graham is the chief servant of Satan."
-- Rev Jerry Falwell (attributed: source unknown)

The ACLU is to Christians what the American Nazi party is to Jews.
-- Rev Jerry Falwell (attributed: source unknown)

"AIDS is the wrath of a just God against homosexuals. To oppose it would be like an Israelite jumping in the Red Sea to save one of Pharoah's chariotters."
-- Rev Jerry Falwell (attributed: source unknown)Wonderful. He will be missed...
:rolleyes:

BigMeatballDave
05-16-2007, 01:51 AM
I hope Pat Robertson is nextOuch

BigMeatballDave
05-16-2007, 01:55 AM
Anyone who was as outspoken as he was, will have his fair share of vocal detractors. I am one of them for sure.

That said, I won't piss on his grave now that he's gone, just because I didn't share in his religious righteousness.I pissed on his grave because he is a lunatic fringe. No, he's not active. But, he shares the same ideology.

'Hamas' Jenkins
05-16-2007, 02:42 AM
I'm waiting to see where he wished death to homosexuals. Did you post the wrong quote or something?

:spock:
Only the most strident apologist couldn't connect the dots there.

AIDS is a fatal syndrome.
Falwell says that the occurrence of AIDS w/in the gay population is indicative of God's wrath.
Falwell claimed to be a man of God, which would thereby indicate support of God and his "decisions", which if you believe Falwell is a condition afflicted upon gays for their lifestyle that is always fatal.


Had he not wished death upon them via AIDS, he could have said the following things:

1) Nothing
2) It's an unfortunate occurrence


Instead, he resorted to his usual moral grandstanding, using the deaths of others as a way to promulgate his own hate-ridden message.

Wake up, dude.