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ExtremeChief
04-16-2001, 03:54 PM
I see where the Chiefs have an offer on the table for Horne...

benefits: excellent speed and returning skills...could become good #3 receiver

disadvantages: substance abuse policy breaker...the fact that he was a Ram


The whole substance abuse problem brings back images of Vanover and Morris...maybe another of DV's "projects" ie: Phillips


Thoughts??


6 days and counting...

HC_Chief
04-16-2001, 04:21 PM
We'll have an awesome return specialist once more. It was truly frustrating having consistently piss-poor Special Teams!

BIG_DADDY
04-16-2001, 04:26 PM
Exreme,

Advantage: Rams player they would lose that we would give them nothing for.

tommykat
04-16-2001, 04:44 PM
I thought Horne was signing today? Has anyone seen anything about it done yet? Now this is looking good!

tommykat
04-16-2001, 06:34 PM
Horne is signed!! http://cbs.sportsline.com/u/ce/multi/0,1329,3788078_59,00.html
:D

Zebedee DuBois
04-16-2001, 06:37 PM
That will be a big boost to our return game.
I hope he can stay clean.
It also replaces Lockett with some speed.

redhed
04-16-2001, 08:05 PM
Nothing has been signed yet! That article also said the Rams will have the option to match any offer, which they MIGHT not do.

I would LOVE to see Horne returning kicks, but it almost seems too good to be true. He could still pull a Dale Carter too.

The plot thickens...hmmm

NaptownChief
04-16-2001, 08:09 PM
Redhead,

I read that they will not match any offer....So he should be our guy...

tommykat
04-16-2001, 08:34 PM
OK...so they could pull a Lucy on us. You know the football out from under Charlie Brown. But I live in Springfield, MO. and the sports just reported that Horne will sign tonight with the Chiefs. He looked down right awesome running for a TD.
Let's hope they don't pull the ball out from under us. I don't think they will though.

morphius
04-16-2001, 08:52 PM
As long as he can stay off the crack it is a good signing, because it fills our need for a 3rd WR and it also fills our ST needs.

The problem is keeping him off the crap, like many of you this makes me nervous.

Pitt Gorilla
04-16-2001, 11:42 PM
St. Louis is too cap strapped to sign Horne and ANY of their picks. I believe he' ours.

The Bad Guy
04-16-2001, 11:47 PM
That is wrong Pitt. St. Louis has plenty of cap room now that they traded away Kevin Carter.

They can plug Trung Candidate in, or have Az Hakim return kicks.


I don't think they will match because he is not a player of major need for the Rams. Plus, they are really banking on him getting suspended again. However, I'm sure DV is convinced he will stay on the straight and narrow. But will he? I have no idea.


Damn, I just realized the only Planet login I have is my old NFLScoop name. Next time I post I will have to change that.

DaWolf
04-17-2001, 12:28 AM
Hopefully he's got some recieving skills, because they want him to step in as our speed reciever too. Hopefully he's more than just another Vanover. Good signing though...

Mark M
04-17-2001, 06:03 AM
I agree with ya Wolf ... Horne is going to need to be the 3rd receiver as well. As long as he can curb the off-the-field problems, this is a very good addition. Increases team speed, which I have a feeling we'll see a lot more of in the draft.

7:00 a.m. ... see ya all tonight.

MM
~~Always feels like someone is watching him.

bishop_74
04-17-2001, 07:30 AM
I noticed that he was sloted for the #3 spot at WR but what ever happened to that Micheal Ricks that was signed last year? I wonder if he just couldn't cut it.

ExtremeChief
04-17-2001, 07:31 AM
PERSONAL
Born Tony Tremaine Horne in Montgomery County, N.C. ...won state championship and holds school record at Richmond City High in the 110-meter high hurdles...single...resides in St. Louis.


Career Highlights

Pro Career
Explosive player as both receiver and kickoff returner...very good with ball in his hands...elusive after the catch...one of better kick returners in league...good competitor...emerged as big-play threat on kickoff return?named Rams Special Teams Most Productive Player, as voted by the coaches...set Rams? rookie record for kickoff return yardage in a season with 56 returns for 1,306 yards and a 23.3 yard average... signed by the Rams as undrafted college free agent.

1999
1999: Became the first Rams player since Ron Brown (1985) to lead NFL in kickoff returns, averaging 29.7 yards per return ... average tied Travis Williams (1971) for fifth highest in team history...was a first-team Pro Bowl alternate and was selected first-team All-Pro by Sports Illustrated ... tied for the NFL lead with two kickoff returns for touchdowns.

1998
Played in 16 games primarily as a kickoff returner and a punt team specialist. returned 56 kickoffs for 1306 yards. set a rookie record for kickoff return yardage in a season with 56 returns for 1,306 yards and a 23.3 yard average. set Rams season record 206-yards on four returns and scored on a season high and personal best 102-yard return vs. Atlanta 11/2...first Rams KO return for touchdown since Gaston Green. s 99-yard kickoff return for touchdown at Pittsburgh Nov. 3, 1990.

College Highlights
first team all-ACC all-purpose player, second team all conference wide receiver as senior...started all 12 games and finished with 70 receptions for 907 yards

as far as the off-field problems, I believe he has broken the league substance abuse policy twice... this will only be his 5th year in the NFL...if DV can keep him out of trouble he should be a good pickup. I'm not sure why he isn't used for punt returns. Maybe he can do both if he gets to don the red and gold.

kcred
04-17-2001, 07:37 AM
I think the signing of Horne, indicates the Chiefs are not in need of the WR/KR that Santana Moss brings. If I am correct, the Chiefs now have 6 wideouts, including him, on the roster. DA, Slymo, and now Horne, are set, Ricks, Parker, Perez, and I have also heard Hall is to be tried there, will have to battle for the one or two jobs left. With this offense, we may carry 5 this year.

DaWolf
04-17-2001, 10:04 AM
Bishop,
Teicher said on his Q/A board that the current Chiefs staff does not seem very impresed with Ricks, so his time may be short in KC...

ChiTown
04-17-2001, 10:17 AM
I would be very surprised to see Horne get much PT at WR. While he is an excellent return guy, he will probably see limited action lining up at wideout, unless we are using him as a speedy decoy, or in obvious long yardage passing downs.

I wish I could remember the source, but someone was quoted as saying that he has marginal hands, and does not get off the line very well.