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Simply Red
05-24-2007, 02:32 PM
Meet: LES CLAYPOOL
http://youtube.com/watch?v=c88pg2ZdE1w

chasedude
05-24-2007, 02:37 PM
Les is one bad mutha on the bass. I own the complete Primus collection plus a couple DVDs. They're even better in a live show. Saw them open for Rush a long time back, what a memory!

Didn't he start a side band too? Called Sausage?

penguinz
05-24-2007, 02:37 PM
Primus sucks

Simply Red
05-24-2007, 02:40 PM
Primus sucks
yes they do. Only for the true fans (I know what you meant by that :rockon: )

Simply Red
05-24-2007, 02:42 PM
Les is one bad mutha on the bass. I own the complete Primus collection plus a couple DVDs. They're even better in a live show. Saw them open for Rush a long time back, what a memory!

Didn't he start a side band too? Called Sausage?
Perhaps. I do know that Metallica wouldn't hire him early on because he was out of their league the admitted as much.

Direckshun
05-24-2007, 02:42 PM
Claypool is just an insane guy in general. He's a lot of fun to listen to.

"Tommy The Cat" is one of my favorite songs, ever.

Mr. Laz
05-24-2007, 02:43 PM
http://reel-time.com/blogs/mcmurray/wp-content/images/big_bass_are_harder_to_catch.jpg

Simply Red
05-24-2007, 02:44 PM
Here is another one.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Y5XeVLJeMdE&mode=related&search=

chasedude
05-24-2007, 02:44 PM
Perhaps. I do know that Metallica wouldn't hire him early on because he was out of their league the admitted as much.

He almost joined up with Exodus and Testament too from what I saw on wiki.

Simply Red
05-24-2007, 02:45 PM
Claypool is just an insane guy in general. He's a lot of fun to listen to.

"Tommy The Cat" is one of my favorite songs, ever.
Something is to be said about somebody who chews Redman fishes and is extra progressive/creative and has a turntable in his band.

chasedude
05-24-2007, 02:45 PM
Primus sucks

To each his own. :)

KC Kings
05-24-2007, 02:46 PM
He is no Victor Wooten, but he is pretty good.

Simply Red
05-24-2007, 02:46 PM
http://reel-time.com/blogs/mcmurray/wp-content/images/big_bass_are_harder_to_catch.jpg
awesome.

Direckshun
05-24-2007, 02:46 PM
Les is one bad mutha on the bass. I own the complete Primus collection plus a couple DVDs. They're even better in a live show. Saw them open for Rush a long time back, what a memory!

Didn't he start a side band too? Called Sausage?
I have Sausage's album, Riddles Are Abound Tonight. It's nothing special compared to the Primus catalogue but it's clearly just Primus under another name.

They only released that one album, in '94. And since then Claypool's been in a hundred different projects (he was Tom Waits' bassist on Waits' Real Gone). He came out with a solo album last year under his actual name for the first time ever.

chasedude
05-24-2007, 02:47 PM
Claypool is just an insane guy in general. He's a lot of fun to listen to.

"Tommy The Cat" is one of my favorite songs, ever.

Tom Waits had a piece in that song.

Simply Red
05-24-2007, 02:47 PM
To each his own. :)
Actually that is code for Primus Rocks! Internal language Primus fans share amongst one another.

Simply Red
05-24-2007, 02:48 PM
The Jesus Lizard has a damned talented bassist as well.

chasedude
05-24-2007, 02:48 PM
I have Sausage's album, Riddles Are Abound Tonight. It's nothing special compared to the Primus catalogue but it's clearly just Primus under another name.

They only released that one album, in '94. And since then Claypool's been in a hundred different projects (he was Tom Waits' bassist on Waits' Real Gone). He came out with a solo album last year under his actual name for the first time ever.

Yeah that's what I noticed on wiki, same members just different name. I had heard of the "Sausage" but never got to check out their tunes.

Saleenman607
05-24-2007, 02:48 PM
Peep this..........

http://youtube.com/watch?v=RRuOQtg-pJ0

chasedude
05-24-2007, 02:49 PM
Actually that is code for Primus Rocks! Internal language Primus fans share amongst one another.

Ah, didn't pick up on the inside joke.

Simply Red
05-24-2007, 02:52 PM
Peep this..........

http://youtube.com/watch?v=RRuOQtg-pJ0
Impressive. Not really my style though. But that dude is owning.

Direckshun
05-24-2007, 02:57 PM
Yeah that's what I noticed on wiki, same members just different name. I had heard of the "Sausage" but never got to check out their tunes.
Yeah, it was kind of a "reunite" thing with Claypool, Lalonde and Alexander.

It's alright. It doesn't really stand up to much of what they did as Primus. But it's ****in' Primus alright.

Better Claypool buys would be his solo album last year, Of Whales And Woe or Oysterhead's The Grand Pecking Order. The Frog Brigade and the Holy Mackeral weren't really any good, I'd put them a full leap behind Sausage.

siberian khatru
05-24-2007, 02:58 PM
http://www.nndb.com/people/576/000022510/johnentwhistle-crop.jpg

:harumph:

melbar
05-24-2007, 02:58 PM
He's great, but Wooten is still the man

Fruit Ninja
05-24-2007, 02:59 PM
I agree with him being the baddest MOFO on the bass.

penguinz
05-24-2007, 03:06 PM
The Jesus Lizard has a damned talented bassist as well.The lead singer would classify as one of the drunkest band members ever. Half the time he does not even know what city he is in.

Simply Red
05-24-2007, 03:06 PM
Ah, didn't pick up on the inside joke.


"Primus sucks" doesn't literally mean they suck, it's supposed to be ironic bro.

Simply Red
05-24-2007, 03:07 PM
The lead singer would classify as one of the drunkest band members ever. Half the time he does not even know what city he is in.
Have you heard their bass player?

Fruit Ninja
05-24-2007, 03:08 PM
To each his own. :)
I think he was referring to their Catch Phrase. lol

penguinz
05-24-2007, 03:09 PM
Have you heard their bass player?
I have seen them live a few times. But that was ages ago. maybe i will pick up a few songs and take a listen to refresh my memory.

Stewie
05-24-2007, 03:10 PM
Best bass player ever? That would be Stanley Clark. That is all.

Simply Red
05-24-2007, 03:11 PM
I have seen them live a few times. But that was ages ago. maybe i will pick up a few songs and take a listen to refresh my memory.
Yeah, they rock. T.J.L's bass player is sick-good as well.

Nubian Nut
05-24-2007, 03:12 PM
Best bass player ever? That would be Stanley Clark. That is all.

Stanley Clarke Would be #2 Bootsy Collins is #1

noa
05-24-2007, 03:12 PM
He is no Victor Wooten, but he is pretty good.

Yeah, Victor Wooten is the best IMO, and I've seen both perform live. But that's just my taste. I can see why some would like Claypool more.

siberian khatru
05-24-2007, 03:13 PM
Best bass player ever? That would be Stanley Clark. That is all.

Clarke. :)

Great jazz bassist. I saw him with a reformed Return to Forever back in the early 80s. I have his album "School Daze." Great stuff.

Simply Red
05-24-2007, 03:14 PM
Les prolly is more interesting to watch than any of the others mentioned though. :)

Simply Red
05-24-2007, 03:15 PM
Fuggin redneck that jams.

chasedude
05-24-2007, 03:16 PM
"Primus sucks" doesn't literally mean they suck, it's supposed to be ironic bro.

Heh...

Simply Red
05-24-2007, 03:19 PM
Yeah, Victor Wooten is the best IMO, and I've seen both perform live. But that's just my taste. I can see why some would like Claypool more.


It is because of the mysterious swiftness.

chasedude
05-24-2007, 03:24 PM
It is because of the mysterious swiftness.

...and he walks across the stage like a chicken ROFL

BigChiefFan
05-24-2007, 03:31 PM
Billy Sheehan is one of the best ever.

Buddy Rich
05-24-2007, 03:34 PM
this is who all the bad ass bass players will tell you is the baddest-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25DXcFg1TFo

R.I.P.

Brock
05-24-2007, 03:39 PM
Derek Smalls is pretty good.

Stewie
05-24-2007, 04:10 PM
this is who all the bad ass bass players will tell you is the baddest-

R.I.P.

I agree. Jaco is bad-ass. I guess this is like a prettiest girl contest. Here's a little Stanley Clarke (yeah, SK I forgot the "e"... :))

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StcChief
05-24-2007, 04:15 PM
Victor Wooten
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Wooten

John Entwistle of the Who is dead.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Entwistle

Lzen
05-24-2007, 04:16 PM
LP is an incredible bassist, no doubt. Best bassist ever? I dunno.

I could think of a couple that I like better. John Myung is one of my favorites. ;)

Valiant
05-24-2007, 04:23 PM
http://www.nndb.com/people/576/000022510/johnentwhistle-crop.jpg

:harumph:


Looks like Ringo Starr in the movie caveman...

Nzoner
05-24-2007, 04:24 PM
Won't say the best but will always be one of my all time favs

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Simply Red
05-24-2007, 07:00 PM
LP is an incredible bassist, no doubt. Best bassist ever? I dunno.

I could think of a couple that I like better. John Myung is one of my favorites. ;)
who's LP?

Fairplay
05-24-2007, 07:41 PM
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TM

luv
05-24-2007, 07:49 PM
TOMMY THE CAT!!!!!

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Archie F. Swin
05-24-2007, 08:09 PM
Love Les...almost has a drummers approach to bass. Saw them live on the Bring Da Noize tour back in '91. He and Tim "Herb" Alexander had to be one of the tightest rhythm section in rock history. It was like the Bass and Kick drum were being played by the same person. I love the fact that Les is a great musician that doesn't take himself so seriously...hes's just a character. Those axes he plays are gorgeous!

Best bassist, probably not....

I witnessed a Vic Wooten solo from about 15 feet away during a Flecktones show. I simply could not believe what I was seeing and hearing

CanadaKC
05-24-2007, 11:23 PM
Geddy Lee...who also holds the dubious distinction as the ugliest guy in rock as well..

Ebolapox
05-24-2007, 11:59 PM
neil peart?

Sam Hall
05-25-2007, 01:13 AM
I had the misfortune of walking up to the Granada ticket window and being told the concert was sold out the last time he came here.

Gravedigger
05-25-2007, 01:18 AM
Tell us something we don't know. That video is good but trust me I've seen him do aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaalot better. He is definetly one of the best slap bassists but overall bassist I'd have to go with Victor Wooten.

Fishpicker
05-25-2007, 01:56 AM
Bootsy Collins #1

penguinz
05-25-2007, 07:08 AM
Geddy Lee...who also holds the dubious distinction as the ugliest guy in rock as well..
You have to be joking. How many albums did they put out where both the bass and guitar were played on a computer?

JimNasium
05-25-2007, 07:18 AM
What? No love for Willie Dixon?

KC Jones
05-25-2007, 07:36 AM
Love primus, and Claypool is awesome...

but only one man can claim the title greatest bassist to ever live.

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ChiefJustice
05-25-2007, 07:37 AM
Bootsy Collins #1

This post made me think a bit.


There will never be a single "best bassist".There will never be
a single "best band".


We can all agree that music as a whole,like any art,is subjective.

Knowing that,I present my top 3 bassists:

3:Cliff Burton(Metallica lost it's heart when he died)

2.Kim Deal(ummm...download "Into the White" by the Pixies)

1.Claypool (he reinvented what a bass guitar could do and meant)


Of course these are only recent R&R selections.If it was taken further,
Jazz,Funk,and BeBop old-schoolers need to be considered as well.


Bootsie Collins says":Let your funk flag wave high!"

Silock
05-25-2007, 08:09 AM
Sorry, Victor Wooten is hands-down the best. When I lived in Nashville, we'd always go down to 3rd and Lindsley on Wednesday nights to watch the Wooten brothers play. It was unreal.

No one compares.

cadmonkey
05-25-2007, 08:19 AM
When I opened this thread I thought to myself, if its not Les this thread is worthless.

To think he tried out for Metallica, after Burton died, and they turned him away saying "you are to good for our band"

http://youtube.com/watch?v=vlip3Lm_Iws&mode=related&search=

Archie F. Swin
05-25-2007, 08:31 AM
Sorry, Victor Wooten is hands-down the best. When I lived in Nashville, we'd always go down to 3rd and Lindsley on Wednesday nights to watch the Wooten brothers play. It was unreal.

No one compares.
un-fukcing believable
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Archie F. Swin
05-25-2007, 08:42 AM
One of my favorite early Primus tunes

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KC Jones
05-25-2007, 08:48 AM
un-fukcing believable
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He's awesome...

and he was taught the craft by this man...

Stanley Clarke
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Another guy to include in here, although his style isn't my favorite is Jaco Pastorius. Unfortunately embedding this clip isn't allowed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdY-KAmj5fU

Simply Red
05-25-2007, 08:51 AM
When I opened this thread I thought to myself, if its not Les this thread is worthless.

To think he tried out for Metallica, after Burton died, and they turned him away saying "you are to good for our band"

http://youtube.com/watch?v=vlip3Lm_Iws&mode=related&search=
I thinks the topic of discussion is still somewhat subjective. One who can stroke the strings faster may not indicate raw talent. I think Les puts on a good show with his unorthodox style that is anything but glam. However, He is one of the few that could/can appeal to people of Mississippi
as well as La/Hollywood (not that I care about Hollywood.)

Lastly, I hate to use this word because often it is used. But he never sold-out to commercial-> when he very easily could've.

All of the above is what makes him the best/most appealing bass player.


JMO

KC Jones
05-25-2007, 08:52 AM
Victor Wooten with Stanley Clarke (and Marcus Miller thrown in to boot - talk about a bass fest!!!)

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edit...

what's even more amazing to me about this, is that you have arguably 3 of the top 5 or so living bassists together sharing the stage. Wooten taking the high end, Miller on the low, and Clarke in the middle.

Simply Red
05-25-2007, 08:53 AM
When I opened this thread I thought to myself, if its not Les this thread is worthless.

To think he tried out for Metallica, after Burton died, and they turned him away saying "you are to good for our band"

http://youtube.com/watch?v=vlip3Lm_Iws&mode=related&search=
Thanks for the vid.

penguinz
05-25-2007, 09:24 AM
I was just looking at Claypool's Bio. I can;t believe it has been 14 years since Primus headlined Lollapalooza. Damn I feel old. Also sad that was the last decent Lollapalooza lineup.

Inspector
05-25-2007, 10:50 AM
My favorite bassist is Jason Douglas with Vedera.

That's some excellent music, I tell ya what.

joemama
05-25-2007, 11:18 AM
No one has brought the name Michael Balzary to this discussion. :hmmm:

FishingRod
05-25-2007, 11:18 AM
Chris Squire should be on this list

siberian khatru
05-25-2007, 11:45 AM
Chris Squire should be on this list

I just didn't want to be the one who said it. Too obvious. :)


In all fairness, I think he should be on the list, but he's not THE best. I still like The Ox better. He's No. 1 in my book.

Put Tony Levin on the list, too. I also like Noel Redding.

Simply Red
05-25-2007, 12:03 PM
When I opened this thread I thought to myself, if its not Les this thread is worthless.

To think he tried out for Metallica, after Burton died, and they turned him away saying "you are to good for our band"

http://youtube.com/watch?v=vlip3Lm_Iws&mode=related&search=
Cleaner bass work on that song by Les.

IMO.

penguinz
05-25-2007, 12:23 PM
One of the more impressive covers I have seen Primus perform was Thieves by Ministry.

Simply Red
05-25-2007, 12:25 PM
One of the more impressive covers I have seen Primus perform was Thieves by Ministry.
THIEVES!

THIEVES AND LIAR!

In case you didn't feel like showing up. Live is badazz album...

Simply Red
05-25-2007, 12:26 PM
THIEVES!

THIEVES AND LIAR!

In case you didn't feel like showing up. Live is badazz album...
Talk about multi-talented.

Jurgenson from Ministery has like 9-bands. lol.

chiefsfan1963
05-25-2007, 12:27 PM
definitely Jaco Pastorious! I saw him before he died amazing stuff!

I think he played for WeatherReport.

Simply Red
05-25-2007, 01:00 PM
Weather report? Please explain...

KC Jones
05-25-2007, 01:02 PM
Weather report? Please explain...

jazz/funk/fusion band from the 70's. Like I said earlier in the thread while I don't like Paco's style he'd definitely be among the top 10 bassists of all time in my opinion.

Simply Red
05-25-2007, 01:10 PM
K Thanks.

cadmonkey
05-25-2007, 01:38 PM
One of the more impressive covers I have seen Primus perform was Thieves by Ministry.


as much crap as Limp Bizkit gets, they do a great cover of Thieves. They only did it live and it was great. Their guitarist Wes Borland was a speed metal freak and loved that song.

AZORChiefFan
05-25-2007, 01:42 PM
I saw Primus at Lollapalooza in 93. For their encore they did a cover of Ministry's "Thieves" Les was going crazy on the bass till some asshole in the crowd threw a pigs foot or some such nonsense and hit Les. Shortly after that he walked off stage.

Simply Red
05-25-2007, 01:47 PM
I saw Primus at Lollapalooza in 93. For their encore they did a cover of Ministry's "Thieves" Les was going crazy on the bass till some asshole in the crowd threw a pigs foot or some such nonsense and hit Les. Shortly after that he walked off stage.
WOW. Dumbass ruined it ehh?

AZORChiefFan
05-25-2007, 01:50 PM
WOW. Dumbass ruined it ehh?Yep. I was like holy sh!t this is amazing and then 20-30 seconds later he gets hit. W

Simply Red
05-25-2007, 01:54 PM
Yep. I was like holy sh!t this is amazing and then 20-30 seconds later he gets hit. W
Fugazi if you've ever seen them live are an interesting band.

They'll stop playing and tell people to calm down if they get out of line.

Odd because they're a rocking band, but they do not allow pits (or whatever they are called) at their shows.

AZORChiefFan
05-25-2007, 01:58 PM
Fugazi if you've ever seen them live are an interesting band.

They'll stop playing and tell people to calm down if they get out of line.

Odd because they're a rocking band, but they do not allow pits (or whatever they are called) at their shows.
I drove 3-4 hours to Peony Park in Omaha to see them. They are a true DIY band/Label. I saw Ian give a spoken word at Coachella really interesting. Talked about how they did things their own way and went against the established music industry when putting together the record label. Cheap CD's, Shows no merch like Tshirts and so on.

Simply Red
05-25-2007, 02:10 PM
I drove 3-4 hours to Peony Park in Omaha to see them. They are a true DIY band/Label. I saw Ian give a spoken word at Coachella really interesting. Talked about how they did things their own way and went against the established music industry when putting together the record label. Cheap CD's, Shows no merch like Tshirts and so on.
Seems like that is the ingredients for mystique, and creating a following.

penguinz
05-25-2007, 02:43 PM
Fugazi if you've ever seen them live are an interesting band.

They'll stop playing and tell people to calm down if they get out of line.

Odd because they're a rocking band, but they do not allow pits (or whatever they are called) at their shows.If you like Fugazi i hope you also have the Minor Threat cd.

Simply Red
05-25-2007, 02:46 PM
If you like Fugazi i hope you also have the Minor Threat cd.
Not anymore.

I did when I had the Meat Puppets, Black Flag, Minutemen, Agent Orange, Suicidal, Social Distrotion, etc..

dtebbe
05-25-2007, 02:57 PM
Come on, Flea is the man!

DT

Simply Red
05-25-2007, 04:09 PM
Come on, Flea is the man!

DT
Come on now. You can't be serious. :shake:

Simply Red
05-25-2007, 07:59 PM
Not anymore.

I did when I had the Meat Puppets, Black Flag, Minutemen, Agent Orange, Suicidal, Social Distrotion, etc..
oops, I forgot Jello Biafra, with DK.

Pitt Gorilla
05-25-2007, 08:15 PM
I haven't read the entire thread, but I liked Claypool in Oysterhead.

Pitt Gorilla
05-25-2007, 08:32 PM
Cliff, John Paul, Bootsy. I like Reginald Arvizu.

Simply Red
05-25-2007, 09:12 PM
I haven't read the entire thread, but I liked Claypool in Oysterhead.
vaguely remember hearing about them. Heh, I think. Help. What year?

Simply Red
05-25-2007, 09:42 PM
vaguely remember hearing about them. Heh, I think. Help. What year?
He must have been with them 89-91 or so.

Simply Red
05-25-2007, 09:54 PM
I haven't read the entire thread, but I liked Claypool in Oysterhead.
Yeah, but did you like Biafra in Lard?

Mojo Rising
05-25-2007, 09:55 PM
1. Phil Lesh
2. John Paul Jones

Simply Red
05-25-2007, 09:55 PM
Yeah, but did you like Biafra in Lard?
Or, Jello in NoMeansNo!

Simply Red
05-25-2007, 10:15 PM
One of many of A.J.'s bands. He has nine total. Second to Ministry is The Revolting Cocks.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=abPUzRxNblg