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Rooster
06-04-2007, 02:05 PM
This one is new to me. Sleepwalking that leads to sex.

June 11, 2007 issue -

When Jan Luedecke of Toronto was arrested and tried for sexual assault, he had an unusual defense—he did it in his sleep. Really. It may sound farfetched, but Luedecke, who was 33 at his 2005 trial, had a history of sleepwalking. On the night in question, he'd been drinking at a party and found himself sacked out on the couch with a woman he'd met there. Hours later, she jolted him awake and demanded to know what he was doing. Luedecke claimed he was unaware he was having sex with her. "Under the law, if there's no intent to commit a crime, you haven't committed a crime," says Dr. Colin Shapiro, director of the Youthdale Child and Adolescent Sleep Center in Toronto, who testified for the defense. Luedecke was acquitted (to the outrage of women's organizations in Canada), and the case is now on appeal.

Add sex to the roster of unlikely sleep behaviors known as parasomnias, which range from sleep driving to sleep eating. Last week psychiatrist Carlos Schenck and neurologist Mark Mahowald of the Minnesota Regional Sleep Disorders Center published a review article in the journal Sleep on what they call "sleepsex," or "sexsomnia." Think of it as a more advanced form of sleepwalking. It covers the full gamut of sexual activity, from fondling to intercourse, with one crucial difference. The patients apparently have no conscious awareness of what they're doing and, when wakened, have no recollection of it.

Is this for real? Reported cases are still rare—Schenck and Mahowald found only 31 in the medical literature. But they say that's partly because of the embarrassing nature of the problem and partly because there's so little public awareness of it. Sexsomnia was not even recognized by the American Academy of Sleep Medicine until 2005. Psychologist Michael Mangan at the University of New Hampshire, author of the 2001 book "Sleepsex: Uncovered," believes there are far more cases than the literature would indicate. He maintains a Web site on sleepsex that has registered comments from more than 1,000 sufferers.

Sleepsex is far different from your average sexual dream. Dreams occur during REM sleep, when the body is largely paralyzed. Sleepsex takes place during partial arousal from deep sleep, when one is free to move. Dreams can be remembered later, under the right circumstances. But sleepsex appears to belong to a mental netherworld in which brain regions devoted to higher thought, judgment and reasoning are shut down, while areas governing more primitive functions (such as locomotion, eating and sex) are still active. Put them together, and it can be a bad combination for someone who is already predisposed to sleepwalking or other parasomnias. For such a person, anything that induces more deep sleep—such as excessive alcohol consumption or persistent sleep deprivation—only increases the risk.

Granted, sleepsex sounds amusing—and some of the cases have their comical aspects. "One man had been initiating intercourse on almost a nightly basis," says Mangan. That was apparently fine with his wife, until "one night he started snoring." In another case, a female sexsomniac routinely groped her husband. Whenever he responded, says Schenck, "she would wake up and accuse him of forcing sex on her while she slept."

But doctors emphasize that sleepsex can lead to both physical and psychological damage. Bed partners have been known to suffer lacerations. (It's not uncommon, Schenck explains, for male sexsomniacs to display much rougher behavior during sleepsex than waking sex.) One man masturbated in his sleep with such energy that he suffered "repeated bruising of the penis" and avoided sexual intercourse for more than eight years. A man in Singapore masturbated in his sleep every night, leaving his wife feeling "cheated." "People experience real problems in relationships because of it," says Mangan.

Schenck and Mahowald hope that publicizing the existence of sexsomnia will cause more people to seek help. The condition is highly treatable with the generic anti-anxiety drug clonazepam. Seeking help can only work to a sufferer's advantage. After all, if you're going to have sex, you might as well enjoy it.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18999826/site/newsweek/

crazycoffey
06-04-2007, 02:11 PM
I think I'm getting ready to catch this "disease"

KurtCobain
06-04-2007, 02:12 PM
I think I'm getting ready to catch this "disease"

woah there big boy.

Rooster
06-04-2007, 02:14 PM
I think I'm getting ready to catch this "disease"

LOL... I don't think my wife would buy into this defense.

"No no honey, I wasn't cheating... I was sleepwalking..."

Mr. Plow
06-04-2007, 02:18 PM
One man masturbated in his sleep with such energy that he suffered "repeated bruising of the penis"

ROFL

Fish
06-04-2007, 02:18 PM
I think this happened to me one night......

Pushead2
06-04-2007, 02:29 PM
I think this happened to me one night......

SURE , That's what they all say!!! :)

eazyb81
06-04-2007, 03:13 PM
I actually have a friend that has this problem, but not to this extent. When we were in college he would stay at his girlfriend's house, then in the middle of the night he would sleepwalk and get into bed with one of her roommates. It happened a few times and he still swears to this day he didn't do it on purpose.

He also gets up almost every night and eats a candy bar while sleepwalking, and this past weekend he got up and peed outside on his back deck even though he has two bathrooms inside.

It's funny when we talk about it, but it's got to freak him out a bit.

Simplex3
06-04-2007, 03:30 PM
I actually have a friend that has this problem, but not to this extent. When we were in college he would stay at his girlfriend's house, then in the middle of the night he would sleepwalk and get into bed with one of her roommates. It happened a few times and he still swears to this day he didn't do it on purpose.

He also gets up almost every night and eats a candy bar while sleepwalking, and this past weekend he got up and peed outside on his back deck even though he has two bathrooms inside.

It's funny when we talk about it, but it's got to freak him out a bit.
My brother in law roams the house and will on occasion rearrange his closet according to my sister.

Mr. Laz
06-04-2007, 03:52 PM
a girlfriend used to tease me all the time of "jumping her bones" in the middle of the night.

i never remembered it ....


maybe i was "sleep boning" :shrug:

crazycoffey
06-04-2007, 03:56 PM
My brother in law roams the house and will on occasion rearrange his closet according to my sister.



You and teh ghey sexual innuendos.....

Reerun_KC
06-04-2007, 04:02 PM
You and teh ghey sexual innuendos.....
Only you would pick that up...

The Rick
06-04-2007, 04:12 PM
I'll have to show this to my wife. That way, the next time she wakes up in the middle of the night and says "what are you doing!", I can say that I was sleeping and had no idea! :)

crazycoffey
06-04-2007, 08:17 PM
Only you would pick that up...


bet I wasn't, I was just the first to say it.

CoMoChief
06-04-2007, 08:43 PM
this is funny. good read. lol

Fish
06-04-2007, 08:45 PM
OK... now that I'm drunk, I'll tell you my suspected incidnent. Back when I was living in Manhattan, we had a house guest for a monthl. We had an extra room so it was no big deal. We were flirty but i didn't know her that well. She awkwardly asked me one night if I remembered having sex with her. I had absolutely no memory of it at all. She said I came in her room one night and climbed in bed. And in her words as closely as I can remember "You came in and didn't say anythin and just ****ed me like a caveman. And when you were done, you got out of bed, and took a piss in the corner of the room, and left.

Honestly no memory of it.

crazycoffey
06-04-2007, 08:49 PM
OK... now that I'm drunk, I'll tell you my suspected incidnent. Back when I was living in Manhattan, we had a house guest for a monthl. We had an extra room so it was no big deal. We were flirty but i didn't know her that well. She awkwardly asked me one night if I remembered having sex with her. I had absolutely no memory of it at all. She said I came in her room one night and climbed in bed. And in her words as closely as I can remember "You came in and didn't say anythin and just ****ed me like a caveman. And when you were done, you got out of bed, and took a piss in the corner of the room, and left.

Honestly no memory of it.


I think the piss in the corner should have been her first clue....

Fire Me Boy!
06-04-2007, 08:49 PM
Dear Penthouse...

I was asleep and a sorority was having a slumber party next door.

Rain Man
06-05-2007, 12:33 AM
I actually have a friend that has this problem, but not to this extent. When we were in college he would stay at his girlfriend's house, then in the middle of the night he would sleepwalk and get into bed with one of her roommates. It happened a few times and he still swears to this day he didn't do it on purpose.


Your friend is a genius.