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Reerun_KC
06-06-2007, 07:12 PM
Well we make the list for the most frustrated sports city... Were in the top 10! DAMMIT CARL :cuss:

http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/6889548?MSNHPHCP&GT1=10136

9. Kansas City
With an assist from umpire Don Denkinger, the Royals rallied to upset Cardinals in the 1985 World Series. But that was the last gasp from the great George Brett Era; the Royals haven't been back to the playoffs since.

The Chiefs haven't won the big prize since the 1969 season, the Scouts were just a blip on the NHL radar screen and the Kings left town just before the NBA went big. Now the city has a sparkling new downtown arena awaiting new tenants.

RECURRING NIGHTMARES: Jan Stenerud's playoff disaster against the Dolphins; Elvis Grbac getting the playoff call over Rich Gannon; the Kemper Arena roof collapse; the Royals' cocaine era; Dick Howser's fatal illness, Bo Jackson's hip injury; Derrick Thomas' fatal car wreck.

DEPARTURES: Athletics, Scouts, Kings, Otis Birdsong, Hank Stram, Bret Saberhagen, Rich Gannon, Johnny Damon, Jermaine Dye, Carlos Beltran, Marty Schottenheimer, Dick Vermeil.

pikesome
06-06-2007, 07:14 PM
Elvis Grbac getting the playoff call over Rich Gannon

I didn't need to be reminded.

siberian khatru
06-06-2007, 07:15 PM
With an assist from umpire Don Denkinger,

Go **** yourself, Fox.

KcMizzou
06-06-2007, 07:17 PM
"the Royals' cocaine era"

Now there's something you don't hear much about. Anyone care to fill me in?

I must have been a kid and missed it.

siberian khatru
06-06-2007, 07:18 PM
"the Royals' cocaine era"

Now there's something you don't hear much about. Anyone care to fill me in?

The early 80s -- Willie Aikens, Willie Wilson, Jerry Martin and Vida Blue were cokeheads. Aikens went to prison for conspiracy to distribute or something like that.

Fairplay
06-06-2007, 07:20 PM
"the Royals' cocaine era"

Now there's something you don't hear much about. Anyone care to fill me in?



Heres a link.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willie_Aikens


Also....Aikens presently serves his prison sentence in a United States Penitentiary located in Atlanta, Georgia. He is scheduled for release in 2012.


Kind of sad about that guy.

siberian khatru
06-06-2007, 07:21 PM
I looked it up -- I forgot Wilson went to prison too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Kansas_City_Royals

The second scandal of the 1983 season was far more serious, involving a truly illegal substance and several Royals players. Leadoff hitter and center fielder Willie Wilson, power-hitting first baseman Willie Aikens, power-hitting outfielder Jerry Martin, and starting pitcher Vida Blue, who had been released on August 5, were charged with attempting to purchase cocaine. The four were charged in October 1983, pled guilty, spent three months in prison, and were suspended by commissioner Bowie Kuhn for the entire 1984 season. The four appealed and were permitted to return on May 15. In response to the scandal, owner Ewing Kauffman founded the Ewing Marion Kauffman foundation to give back to the community, allowed Martin to depart via free agency, and traded Aikens, retaining only Wilson's services.

KcMizzou
06-06-2007, 07:21 PM
The early 80s -- Willie Aikens, Willie Wilson, Jerry Martin and Vida Blue were cokeheads. Aikens went to prison for conspiracy to distribute or something like that.Hmm.. I was born in 74, so I guess I wasn't paying much attention yet. I've heard references to it, now that I think about it. Thanks.

Ebolapox
06-06-2007, 07:25 PM
sh*t, what baseball team DIDN'T have at least a player or two that had problems with blow back in the 80's...

KcMizzou
06-06-2007, 07:26 PM
sh*t, what baseball team DIDN'T have at least a player or two that had problems with blow back in the 80's...Heh, yeah. I think that was "America's cocaine era"

Reerun_KC
06-06-2007, 07:28 PM
I didn't need to be reminded.

That truly cost Marty one of his best and most likely only shot at a superbowl...

What moron would do something like that? Pathetic at best...

Mr. Laz
06-06-2007, 07:30 PM
coke for the Royals

pot for the chiefs

Reerun_KC
06-06-2007, 07:31 PM
Well we have really it rock bottom recently. So the Royals and Chiefs have no where to go but up...

Ebolapox
06-06-2007, 07:33 PM
reerun, we've been saying that (check that: mumbling) to ourselves that very thing since the early 90's... there's no relief in site

so with that in mind, I post this samuel l. jackson picture.

<img src="http://www.theweeklydonut.org/wp-content/donuts/2006/03/Snakes_On_A_Plane.jpg">

Fairplay
06-06-2007, 07:40 PM
Well we have really it rock bottom recently. So the Royals and Chiefs have no where to go but up...



The Chiefs are by no means rock bottom. If so they would have winning percentages consistent like Detroit and Arizona. Those teams i would consider rock bottom.

Thig Lyfe
06-06-2007, 07:43 PM
How the hell do they not mention Lin Eliot?

Bearcat
06-06-2007, 07:50 PM
I'd bump us up to #7, past Cincinnati and San Diego, but that's just me...

Mile High Mania
06-06-2007, 07:56 PM
San Diego shouldn't be on the list... how can you live there and be frustrated about anything?

milkman
06-06-2007, 07:56 PM
I was delighted with the departures of both Marty and Dick.

I was frustrated by their arrivals.

KcMizzou
06-06-2007, 07:57 PM
How the hell do they not mention Lin Eliot?Mercy?

ChiefaRoo
06-06-2007, 07:58 PM
NEVER MENTION THAT KICKERS NAME. EVER!!! DO YOU HEAR ME?!! EVERRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

CoMoChief
06-06-2007, 08:05 PM
Well we make the list for the most frustrated sports city... Were in the top 10! DAMMIT CARL :cuss:

http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/6889548?MSNHPHCP&GT1=10136

9. Kansas City
With an assist from umpire Don Denkinger, the Royals rallied to upset Cardinals in the 1985 World Series.


People who actually watched that game will tell you (if they're smart) that, that call had nothing to do with the outcome of the series.

CoMoChief
06-06-2007, 08:06 PM
How the hell do they not mention Lin Eliot?


You should get banned for using that name.

milkman
06-06-2007, 08:09 PM
NEVER MENTION THAT KICKERS NAME. EVER!!! DO YOU HEAR ME?!! EVERRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lin Elliot

Lin Elliot

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I find this whole obsession with Elliot to be absolutely ridiculous.

Lin Elliot ****ed up, but Marty is far more responsible for that loss.

Bearcat
06-06-2007, 08:12 PM
People who actually watched that game will tell you (if they're smart) that, that call had nothing to do with the outcome of the series.

I'm going to St. Louis in a couple of weeks for a Royals game, and I'm going to count the number of '85 references thrown our way. Maybe I'll just save myself some time and wear a sign that says "11-0" :shrug:

Bearcat
06-06-2007, 08:16 PM
Lin Elliot ****ed up, but Marty is far more responsible for that loss.


Actually, it's the Dallas Cowboys. They paid Lin Elliot (former Cowboy) to miss those field goals, because Jerry Jones is on record saying that particular Chiefs team was the only team that scared him, and was the only team he didn't want to play in or on the way to the Super Bowl that year.


No, I don't actually believe it

milkman
06-06-2007, 08:18 PM
Actually, it's the Dallas Cowboys. They paid Lin Elliot (former Cowboy) to miss those field goals, because Jerry Jones is on record saying that particular Chiefs team was the only team that scared him, and was the only team he didn't want to play in or on the way to the Super Bowl that year.


No, I don't actually believe it

:)

ChiefaRoo
06-06-2007, 08:50 PM
Lin Elliott ='s Anti-Christ

ChiefsCountry
06-06-2007, 08:55 PM
Actually, it's the Dallas Cowboys. They paid Lin Elliot (former Cowboy) to miss those field goals, because Jerry Jones is on record saying that particular Chiefs team was the only team that scared him, and was the only team he didn't want to play in or on the way to the Super Bowl that year.


No, I don't actually believe it

Phil Simms actually says that at the end of the Super Bowl for that year. Not the paying off Elliott stuff but the Chiefs were the team the Cowgirls didnt want to play.

Demonpenz
06-06-2007, 08:57 PM
Bo diaz died by gettingg crushed by a freaking satilite dish how does that not get on the cincinati reds list

Tribal Warfare
06-06-2007, 08:59 PM
Lin Elliot

Lin Elliot

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Lin Elliot

Lin Elliot

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Lin Elliot



Good Christ, I'm Blinded!!!! Wait, I see Adriana Lima in my avy to keep my eyes off the sacreligous post. I'm good now :D

Deberg_1990
06-06-2007, 09:00 PM
Lin Elliot ****ed up, but Marty is far more responsible for that loss.

Too many names to go around....what about Paul "cant" Hackett and Steve "I hate BBQ" Bono??

You could make an argument for both....

At least Gannon came in on the very last drive of the game and moved the ball down the field a little..

big nasty kcnut
06-06-2007, 09:00 PM
I have i 85 world series champion hat right now found it in all places spokane washington i rarely wear it.

Logical
06-06-2007, 09:05 PM
People who actually watched that game will tell you (if they're smart) that, that call had nothing to do with the outcome of the series.


I was a Royals fan and was delighted to see the Cardinals get screwed, but it is nonsense to say that call had nothing to do with the outcome of the series.

Deberg_1990
06-06-2007, 09:07 PM
I was a Royals fan and was delighted to see the Cardinals get screwed, but it is nonsense to say that call had nothing to do with the outcome of the series.

It wasnt even game 7!


Its not like that ended the Cards hopes.....

Logical
06-06-2007, 09:10 PM
It wasnt even game 7!


Its not like that ended the Cards hopes.....

Oh please, the Cardinals were up 3 games to 2, that play would have been the final out in their 4th win. That play was friggen huge for us.

Deberg_1990
06-06-2007, 09:14 PM
Oh please, the Cardinals were up 3 games to 2, that play would have been the final out in their 4th win. That play was friggen huge for us.

Agreed, but the Cards IMO really choked the next night when they failed to show up in game 7.

Logical
06-06-2007, 09:54 PM
Agreed, but the Cards IMO really choked the next night when they failed to show up in game 7.Tis true they fell apart after that.:clap:

CosmicPal
06-06-2007, 09:57 PM
I was a Royals fan and was delighted to see the Cardinals get screwed, but it is nonsense to say that call had nothing to do with the outcome of the series.

If I recall the game correctly- the Cards had a couple of chances early to put the game away, but they failed to capitalize. I also remember a couple of errors. The Cards had every chance handed to them to win that game, but they didn't. And then, of course, the famous *****-up with the call at first base and everyone seems to think they got robbed by that call ALONE.

Funny how they all seem to have easily forgotten the rest of the game.

Bearcat
06-06-2007, 09:59 PM
There was a bad call on a stolen base earlier in the game that cost the Royals a run, but no on ever mentions that :harumph:

Deberg_1990
06-06-2007, 10:00 PM
If I recall the game correctly- the Cards had a couple of chances early to put the game away, but they failed to capitalize. I also remember a couple of errors. The Cards had every chance handed to them to win that game, but they didn't. And then, of course, the famous *****-up with the call at first base and everyone seems to think they got robbed by that call ALONE.

Funny how they all seem to have easily forgotten the rest of the game.

Didnt Jack Clark miss a foul popup by Dane Iorg?? Or was that Jorge Orta's pop up??

ChiefsCountry
06-06-2007, 10:04 PM
Oh please, the Cardinals were up 3 games to 2, that play would have been the final out in their 4th win. That play was friggen huge for us.

Umm I thought Orta got out right after that.

greg63
06-06-2007, 10:17 PM
Well we make the list for the most frustrated sports city... Were in the top 10! DAMMIT CARL :cuss:...

This is news?

Valiant
06-06-2007, 10:17 PM
Oh please, the Cardinals were up 3 games to 2, that play would have been the final out in their 4th win. That play was friggen huge for us.


If I recall the game correctly- the Cards had a couple of chances early to put the game away, but they failed to capitalize. I also remember a couple of errors. The Cards had every chance handed to them to win that game, but they didn't. And then, of course, the famous *****-up with the call at first base and everyone seems to think they got robbed by that call ALONE.

There was a bad call on a stolen base earlier in the game that cost the Royals a run, but no on ever mentions that


So Logical is this true??? The royals got screwed a run early?? Did the umps give back a call in their favor to even it up???

Thig Lyfe
06-06-2007, 10:19 PM
Phil Simms actually says that at the end of the Super Bowl for that year. Not the paying off Elliott stuff but the Chiefs were the team the Cowgirls didnt want to play.

If the Chiefs beat the Colts that year we'd have another Lombardi trophy in this town.

:banghead:

SPchief
06-06-2007, 10:35 PM
Funny how they all seem to have easily forgotten the rest of the game.



And they conviently forget about game 7.

Bearcat
06-06-2007, 10:40 PM
So Logical is this true??? The royals got screwed a run early?? Did the umps give back a call in their favor to even it up???

The next guy up got a basehit, which would have driven home the run and the game would have been tied in the bottom of the 9th.

Also, Orta was the first batter of the 9th, and was the first out of the 9th... it just so happened to be at 3rd base instead of first. Had Orta been out at first, who knows... Balboni singles, passed ball sends him to 2nd, basehit, and it's tied.. with only 1 out. And had the aforementioned bad call not happened earlier in the game, we would have won anyway. Him being at first obviously changed the Royals' strategy and obviously flustered the Cards, but it really wasn't as huge as people make it out.

Even I know that, and I was 5 at the time.

Valiant
06-06-2007, 11:55 PM
The next guy up got a basehit, which would have driven home the run and the game would have been tied in the bottom of the 9th.

Also, Orta was the first batter of the 9th, and was the first out of the 9th... it just so happened to be at 3rd base instead of first. Had Orta been out at first, who knows... Balboni singles, passed ball sends him to 2nd, basehit, and it's tied.. with only 1 out. And had the aforementioned bad call not happened earlier in the game, we would have won anyway. Him being at first obviously changed the Royals' strategy and obviously flustered the Cards, but it really wasn't as huge as people make it out.

Even I know that, and I was 5 at the time.


I was at a few of the games but I do not remember anything except all the cheering... I was 7 at the time...

Guru
06-07-2007, 01:14 AM
I'm going to St. Louis in a couple of weeks for a Royals game, and I'm going to count the number of '85 references thrown our way. Maybe I'll just save myself some time and wear a sign that says "11-0" :shrug:
What is sad is that they will know exactly what that sign means after 22 years.

Logical
06-07-2007, 01:19 AM
So Logical is this true??? The royals got screwed a run early?? Did the umps give back a call in their favor to even it up???

On the stolen base call it is a definite maybe, but that is much more a judgement call not so much a missed call. I will also agree that the Cardinals had chances earlier to increase their margin and did not capitalize. All true, still does not change they were 1 out from the WS championship that out happened but was clearly blown by Denkinger.

'Hamas' Jenkins
06-07-2007, 01:22 AM
It was rated the worst call in sports history by ESPN :banghead:

Guru
06-07-2007, 01:25 AM
And they conviently forget about game 7.
There was a game 7? :)

SPchief
06-07-2007, 01:28 AM
There was a game 7? :)



Well a game was played, but only one team showed up.

Guru
06-07-2007, 01:29 AM
Well a game was played, but only one team showed up.
Oh yeah. That's right. Darrel Motley started us off if I remember right.

Bearcat
06-07-2007, 01:37 AM
I was at a few of the games but I do not remember anything except all the cheering... I was 7 at the time...

Maybe I should have phrased that better.... I don't remember any of it as it happened. But I'd think those who were old enough to remember it would remember all of it ;)


All true, still does not change they were 1 out from the WS championship that out happened but was clearly blown by Denkinger.

They were 3 outs away. The call was on the leadoff guy, who ended up being the 1st out of the inning at 3rd base.

Logical
06-07-2007, 01:47 AM
....


They were 3 outs away. The call was on the leadoff guy, who ended up being the 1st out of the inning at 3rd base.At 22 years ago I am not going to argue it, I am suprised you could remember this and I am wondering if you looked it up or are just telling me something someone else told you?

Anyway I apologize if I got it wrong.

Bearcat
06-07-2007, 01:59 AM
At 22 years ago I am not going to argue it, I am suprised you could remember this and I am wondering if you looked it up or are just telling me something someone else told you?

Anyway I apologize if I got it wrong.

I've had the conversation so many times, I know the situation pretty well... but, after you had said "one out away" twice, I looked it up just to be sure.

I'm just warming up for my roadtrip :)

big nasty kcnut
06-07-2007, 03:17 AM
Also you got to remember that the royals neeed to win cause it was to prove that kansas city was one of the top team of the late 70s early 80s.

Fruit Ninja
06-07-2007, 03:24 AM
The Chiefs are by no means rock bottom. If so they would have winning percentages consistent like Detroit and Arizona. Those teams i would consider rock bottom.
Yet, our Chiefs have like 2-3 play of more wins then they do in 30 years. :(

ChiefsFanatic
06-07-2007, 03:50 AM
Well we make the list for the most frustrated sports city... Were in the top 10! DAMMIT CARL :cuss:

http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/6889548?MSNHPHCP&GT1=10136

9. Kansas City
With an assist from umpire Don Denkinger, the Royals rallied to upset Cardinals in the 1985 World Series. But that was the last gasp from the great George Brett Era; the Royals haven't been back to the playoffs since.

The Chiefs haven't won the big prize since the 1969 season, the Scouts were just a blip on the NHL radar screen and the Kings left town just before the NBA went big. Now the city has a sparkling new downtown arena awaiting new tenants.

RECURRING NIGHTMARES: Jan Stenerud's playoff disaster against the Dolphins; Elvis Grbac getting the playoff call over Rich Gannon; the Kemper Arena roof collapse; the Royals' cocaine era; Dick Howser's fatal illness, Bo Jackson's hip injury; Derrick Thomas' fatal car wreck.

DEPARTURES: Athletics, Scouts, Kings, Otis Birdsong, Hank Stram, Bret Saberhagen, Rich Gannon, Johnny Damon, Jermaine Dye, Carlos Beltran, Marty Schottenheimer, Dick Vermeil.


Put this in a folder, and file it under Shit I Already Know

Deberg_1990
06-07-2007, 03:50 AM
It was rated the worst call in sports history by ESPN :banghead:

hard to argue against it. He was clearly out.

SPchief
06-07-2007, 03:52 AM
Also you got to remember that the royals neeed to win cause it was to prove that kansas city was one of the top team of the late 70s early 80s.


Sorry nut, but does anybody have a TK decoder ring handy?

SPchief
06-07-2007, 03:53 AM
hard to argue against it. He was clearly out.


Bad calls happen every once in awhile.

CHIEF4EVER
06-07-2007, 06:18 AM
Sorry, but the 'Denkinger lost the series for St Louis' is a complete non starter. If St Louis had been a true champion team, they wouldn't have melted down like they did in game 7. Regardless of what happened in game 6. 11-0? Are you kidding me?

StcChief
06-07-2007, 09:51 AM
Sorry, but the 'Denkinger lost the series for St Louis' is a complete non starter. If St Louis had been a true champion team, they wouldn't have melted down like they did in game 7. Regardless of what happened in game 6. 11-0? Are you kidding me?
There would not have been a game 7. Changed the whole thing.

and that would have moved KC up a few notches on the bad luck list.

ChiefsFan4Life
06-07-2007, 10:05 AM
I'm going to St. Louis in a couple of weeks for a Royals game, and I'm going to count the number of '85 references thrown our way. Maybe I'll just save myself some time and wear a sign that says "11-0" :shrug:

Yes! Another Royals fan at the game. I went to the Cards-Royals series last year (Royals won) in St. Louis and I was wearing a Royals shirt of course and it was funny because I could glance around and every once and a while would see a blue spot. Few and far between though.

duncan_idaho
06-07-2007, 10:06 AM
There would not have been a game 7. Changed the whole thing.

and that would have moved KC up a few notches on the bad luck list.

Why does Jack Clark's dropped popup get overlooked? If he catches that ball, it completely changes the situation of the game. The Royals can still try to bunt the runner into scoring position, but then there are two outs.

And let's not forget the blown call at second base earlier in the game, when Frank White was as clearly safe stealing second as Orta was out. The next batter got a hit.

Blown calls happen. Championship teams make the plays (and catch pop-ups) to overcome them.

Cardinals' fans need to stop whining about it.

HemiEd
06-07-2007, 10:07 AM
San Diego shouldn't be on the list... how can you live there and be frustrated about anything?

Traffic, earhquakes and brush fires. They couldn't pay me enough to live out there.
I spend a week out there on business every year, that is enough.

Codered
06-07-2007, 10:11 AM
I figured since they finally won the Series last year they would finally get over the 85 series. I guess we will find out soon enough.

SAAAFFFFEEE!!!!