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Direckshun
06-09-2007, 09:11 AM
What's your philosophy on this whole matter?

If you're King Carl, do you pay the man (and if so, how much) or trade the man (and if so, when)?

Poll forthcoming.

unothadeal
06-09-2007, 09:14 AM
He won't last 8 years at the top.

10 Years.

EDIT: Oops. Meant to say 10 Mil

kcfan82
06-09-2007, 09:14 AM
Offer him less than LT, but more than your average NFL back. Explain to him although he is a good back, he also had the pleasure of a great Oline which needs to be paid for too. Add a few incentives into his contract for # of carries, yards, YPC, etc.

el borracho
06-09-2007, 09:16 AM
Well, I don't have any specific suggestions about numbers but one thing I would like to see us do is front-load the contract. We have the cap room and it would be nice to have the option of cutting him in a few years if we need to.

Bowser
06-09-2007, 09:16 AM
5 year 48 mil with a 15.5 mil bonus

Splat420
06-09-2007, 09:17 AM
Top five money would be fine with me no more then top three.

CoMoChief
06-09-2007, 09:20 AM
Well, we can't really trade him now because he's in the last year in his deal and the draft has already passed up by. If we sign him to a long term deal, not many teams are gonna want to eat that contract up. I think Carl is backed into a corner on this one. Not only that but LJ has already paid his dues and Carl knows that it would be awfully hard to fill up Arrowhead if he leaves.

CoMoChief
06-09-2007, 09:22 AM
Offer him less than LT, but more than your average NFL back. Explain to him although he is a good back, he also had the pleasure of a great Oline which needs to be paid for too. Add a few incentives into his contract for # of carries, yards, YPC, etc.

Our Oline was horrible last season and he set the NFL record for carries in a season. LJ has more than paid his dues in KC.

blueballs
06-09-2007, 09:33 AM
it's not my money
this is Carl's problem
and media's bonanza

milkman
06-09-2007, 09:46 AM
8 years for a RB is insane.

4 years, tops.

OctoberFart
06-09-2007, 10:22 AM
He is worth 80 year 80 mil with 40 mil guaranteed.

KurtCobain
06-09-2007, 02:05 PM
I'd pay him 8 years/ 60 mill. And then cut/trade him when he gets older.

keg in kc
06-09-2007, 02:20 PM
8 years is nuts for a 27-/28-year old RB.

I think he has maximum of 4-5 peak years left, so I'd go a max of 6 years, with the typical 1-2 voidable years at the end.

It's a risk, but what isn't...

jlscorpio
06-09-2007, 02:24 PM
Bowser for GM

Cochise
06-09-2007, 02:44 PM
It all depends on how it's structured. If it's one of those deals where he'll never see the money at the back end anyway then maybe.

Since he turns 28 this season, you can reasonably predict 3 more productive seasons barring some sort of injury. 31 is about the time to cut bait on a running back, maybe past time for someone with that kind of a running style.

Maybe a 5 year deal that could end after 3?

chop
06-09-2007, 03:14 PM
Tomlinson got his 8 year 60 mil. dollar deal in '04. LT and LJ are the same age. If LJ is asking for 80 mil then it's only because he wants to play else where next year. The salary cap did go up this year but giving that much money to a guy that will most likely be done in fours years is not a good idea.

Logical
06-09-2007, 03:31 PM
I would tell him that his ass is being franchised for up to the three year maximum if does not sign a reasonable 3 to 4 year deal. I would tell him I was planning to sue his ass for breach of contract if he held out this year. Then I would tell him to march out of my office until he and his agent were ready to be serious.

Mr. Laz
06-09-2007, 03:53 PM
if we are going keep giving him all those carries then we don't give him a huge contract because he won't last.

i imagine if Bradie Croyle is the starter than LJ will carry the load again. so ride him hard and them tag and trade him.

btw - you can tag someone and then trade them.

crazycoffey
06-09-2007, 07:28 PM
pay him....

Direckshun
06-10-2007, 11:45 AM
He came in with a really high offer.

It's impossible to tell where this will end up.

Surely Herm wants him, no other RB in the league could have carried our team like LJ did last year, and surely Carl wants him.

But all practical signs point to "this isn't worth it."

htismaqe
06-10-2007, 12:34 PM
I would tell him that his ass is being franchised for up to the three year maximum if does not sign a reasonable 3 to 4 year deal. I would tell him I was planning to sue his ass for breach of contract if he held out this year. Then I would tell him to march out of my office until he and his agent were ready to be serious.

While the franchise tag only locks him up for a year, preventing the risk of him still getting paid after he's gone if he gets hurt, it guarantees him a salary cap number of somewhere around $9M for that year.