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Coach
06-18-2007, 07:10 PM
Game is at St. Louis. Royals have took 2 out of 3 at the K.

Kansas City
D. DeJesus cf
E. German 2b
M. Teahen rf
E. Brown lf
A. Gordon 3b
J. Buck c
R. Shealy 1b
T. Pena Jr.
O. Perez p

St. Louis
S. Taguchi cf
S. Spiezio 2b
A. Pujols 1b
J. Encarnacion rf
S. Rolen 3b
R. Ludwick lf
A. Miles ss
G. Bennett c
A. Wainwright p

Coach
06-18-2007, 07:15 PM
Nice throw. ROFL

Coach
06-18-2007, 07:15 PM
Another shitty throw! German to 3rd.

leviw
06-18-2007, 07:19 PM
Did Pujols just tap Brown on the junk when Emil got to first?

Coach
06-18-2007, 07:21 PM
Mid 1.

KC - 1
STL - 0

tk13
06-18-2007, 07:22 PM
Gordon put a good swing on that ball.

tk13
06-18-2007, 07:33 PM
Shows how much faith Buddy has in Perez right now. 2-1 count and he calls for the intentional walk.

Coach
06-18-2007, 07:34 PM
Shows how much faith Buddy has in Perez right now. 2-1 count and he calls for the intentional walk.

With Pujols on the plate? Hell, nobody wouldn't have any faith if a pitcher gave up 2 straight hits to begin with. Not to mention that Pujols does dominate Perez (statistically-wise)

While the game tied up, it did get the DP. And it could had been alot worse.

End of 1

KC - 1
STL - 1

Jayhawkerman2001
06-18-2007, 07:36 PM
god damn jackass got lucky in that inning. He'd better not ****ing be like this the entire game.... God damn i hate Fat ass Odalis....

sedated
06-18-2007, 07:36 PM
Shows how much faith Buddy has in Perez right now. 2-1 count and he calls for the intentional walk.
and it worked.

double play, 1 run. out of inning

Jayhawkerman2001
06-18-2007, 07:36 PM
yes, anybody would kill for a DP in that situation.

Jayhawkerman2001
06-18-2007, 07:37 PM
JOHNNNYYY B!!!! Damn hes mashing the **** out of the ball!!!

tk13
06-18-2007, 07:37 PM
John Buck is awesome. Killed that ball.

Coach
06-18-2007, 07:37 PM
Damn, that ball was smoked!

Coach
06-18-2007, 07:38 PM
SAFE!

VonneMarie
06-18-2007, 07:38 PM
DAMN

petegz28
06-18-2007, 07:39 PM
nice jack Buck...damn I wish I could watch

I am at the grand canyon....no Royals on TV here

Jayhawkerman2001
06-18-2007, 07:39 PM
when hes up i always say Johnny Be Good. Be damn good please

leviw
06-18-2007, 07:40 PM
The real home run "chase":

Buck 13
Balboni 36

Marcellus
06-18-2007, 07:41 PM
Pujols with a nice play.

VonneMarie
06-18-2007, 07:41 PM
If that punk didn't have his hand up, that's a base hit for fatty.

Jayhawkerman2001
06-18-2007, 07:41 PM
The real home run "chase":

Buck 13
Balboni 36

if he keeps it up, he very well could get close to that number. All that and he wont even get to sniff the allstar game.... I realy hate the allstar voting system...

Coach
06-18-2007, 07:41 PM
Perez can't pitch shit, but at least he moved the runner by himself with his bat.

Coach
06-18-2007, 07:42 PM
Come on DeJesus....

Coach
06-18-2007, 07:43 PM
That a boy DeJesus!

3-1 Royals!

petegz28
06-18-2007, 07:44 PM
nice RBI DD

Coach
06-18-2007, 07:44 PM
DeJesus stole 2nd.

Jayhawkerman2001
06-18-2007, 07:44 PM
even though its been against prety mediocre pitching, it is insanely encouraging how much the offense has been heating up lately. We just need som better pitchers than perez, eloarton and de la rosa(even though de la rosa has shown signs of brilliance).

VonneMarie
06-18-2007, 07:45 PM
DDJ is stealing alot of bases lately.

petegz28
06-18-2007, 07:46 PM
DDJ is stealing alot of bases lately.

I don't know about a lot since that was his 3rd of the season. But as a team we hace been stealing more.

Coach
06-18-2007, 07:46 PM
DDJ is stealing alot of bases lately.

Eh, it was 2 outs. I mean, if he gets caught, no big deal, since German would be leading off for Teahen, Brown, and Gordon.

Brianfo
06-18-2007, 07:46 PM
DDJ is stealing alot of bases lately.

He has 2 stolen bases on the year. A regular Vince Coleman.

Coach
06-18-2007, 07:47 PM
Wrainwright sounds like he's having some major issues...

Jayhawkerman2001
06-18-2007, 07:47 PM
He has 2 stolen bases on the year. A regular Vince Coleman.

actually that made it 3... jackass, lol

Coach
06-18-2007, 07:49 PM
Dammit....

Mid 2nd

Royals - 3
Cards - 1

leviw
06-18-2007, 07:50 PM
even though its been against prety mediocre pitching, it is insanely encouraging how much the offense has been heating up lately. We just need som better pitchers than perez, eloarton and de la rosa(even though de la rosa has shown signs of brilliance).

De La Rosa is young and has shown potential this year. Same cannot be said for Elarton or Perez.

petegz28
06-18-2007, 07:50 PM
well hopefully we can take this series and play like this against the AL

petegz28
06-18-2007, 07:52 PM
De La Rosa is young and has shown potential this year. Same cannot be said for Elarton or Perez.


Elarton sucks and I have no idea why we kept him and not Redman unless it would mean too many lefties. Jorge has been a huge improvement granted he has had a few rough outings but then all pitchers do.

Coach
06-18-2007, 07:54 PM
1,2,3 inning.

Kinda a little bit more easier to pitch when there's nobody named "Pujols", eh?

End 2nd.

3-1, Kansas City over St. Louis.

Jayhawkerman2001
06-18-2007, 07:54 PM
holy jesus!! 1-2-3!!! That must be a first for Odal this season, lol.

Jayhawkerman2001
06-18-2007, 07:56 PM
De La Rosa is young and has shown potential this year. Same cannot be said for Elarton or Perez.

yes, definitely. I am not yet willing to give up on him. He really has shown signs of being a really damn good pitcher.

Kraus
06-18-2007, 07:58 PM
Leadoff hit by Brown!

Coach
06-18-2007, 07:58 PM
Single for Brown.

Come on Gordon!

Coach
06-18-2007, 08:03 PM
LMAO Brown stole 2nd.

stlchiefs
06-18-2007, 08:03 PM
Brown has the smallest ears for a grown adult. Look at that little nub sticking out.

Demonpenz
06-18-2007, 08:03 PM
It's not a snack ITS EMIL!

Immaculate
06-18-2007, 08:07 PM
War John Buck!

Kraus
06-18-2007, 08:09 PM
Way to walk the pitcher, Perez....

Coach
06-18-2007, 08:09 PM
Gawd Dammit. Don't walk a lead off batter, especially if the bastard is a PITCHER!

Coach
06-18-2007, 08:10 PM
Holy cow!

Kraus
06-18-2007, 08:10 PM
Holy hell that was a great play by Gordon...

Demonpenz
06-18-2007, 08:11 PM
Wow what a play by gordon

luv
06-18-2007, 08:11 PM
Score?

CoMoChief
06-18-2007, 08:11 PM
God damnit, nothing pisses me off more than when you walk a pitcher. Thats almost a guaranteed out and the mother ****er walks the mother****er. **** YOU PEREZ!!!

Pitt Gorilla
06-18-2007, 08:12 PM
Why the f*ck do you walk the pitcher?

Coach
06-18-2007, 08:12 PM
Score?

3-1 Royals, bottom of 3rd.

Cardinals up to bat, runner on 2nd, 1 out.

CoMoChief
06-18-2007, 08:12 PM
Score?

3-1 KC leads bottom of 3rd.

Coach
06-18-2007, 08:13 PM
I'd IBB Pujols.

CoMoChief
06-18-2007, 08:15 PM
I'd IBB Pujols.

I would too but after what Perez said about Pujols this week I doubt he does that. Leave em on Juan is the best hitter to face if youre a pichter with runners in scoring position. lol

Coach
06-18-2007, 08:15 PM
What the hell is that Ump?

Kraus
06-18-2007, 08:15 PM
I'm not understanding why we aren't intentionally walking Pujols right now...

Coach
06-18-2007, 08:15 PM
I would too but after what Perez said about Pujols this week I doubt he does that. Leave em on Juan is the best hitter to face if youre a pichter with runners in scoring position. lol

Yeah, but Pujols can easily make a 3-1 game to a 3-3 with just one swing.

Coach
06-18-2007, 08:16 PM
Sit down Pujols....

End of 3rd.

KC - 3
STL - 1

Kraus
06-18-2007, 08:16 PM
Struck out Pujols!!!

kstater
06-18-2007, 08:17 PM
Wicked.

Pujols strikes out.

sedated
06-18-2007, 08:17 PM
I'm not understanding why we aren't intentionally walking Pujols right now...

they'll just take the out right now

Coach
06-18-2007, 08:19 PM
Pena Jr with a lead-off single.

Demonpenz
06-18-2007, 08:20 PM
base hit

Coach
06-18-2007, 08:20 PM
Heh, what a break there...

leviw
06-18-2007, 08:20 PM
The Cardinals are a bad baseball team. That's really all there is to it.

Coach
06-18-2007, 08:21 PM
Come on Marlins.... beat the White Sux.

Demonpenz
06-18-2007, 08:21 PM
thats the advantage odalles had from being in the nl he knows where to bunt it

Coach
06-18-2007, 08:21 PM
Great Sac bunt by DeJesus. Moves the runners to 3rd and 2nd with 1 out.

Coach
06-18-2007, 08:23 PM
The Cardinals are a bad baseball team. That's really all there is to it.

Shit, when you have a shortstop named Aaron Miles and your 2nd baseman as Scott Spiezio as well as the centerfielder Taguchi, you're more likely to be a shitty baseball team.

4-1 now for the Royals.

Coach
06-18-2007, 08:25 PM
5-1 Royals now.

leviw
06-18-2007, 08:25 PM
Booing the World Champs?

....greatest fans in baseball.

Al Bundy
06-18-2007, 08:26 PM
Good 5-1.

Fish
06-18-2007, 08:27 PM
Amazing they won a WS just last year....

Coach
06-18-2007, 08:27 PM
Booing the World Champs?

....greatest fans in baseball.

Heh, they don't boo! I mean, they're the greatest fans after all.

Coach
06-18-2007, 08:27 PM
Amazing they won a WS just last year....

Well, they just got hot at the right time when it mattered the most.

Demonpenz
06-18-2007, 08:28 PM
that staduim is awesome

Coach
06-18-2007, 08:30 PM
Damn Rolen.....

5-2.

Kraus
06-18-2007, 08:30 PM
If Brown were a little faster I think he would of had a chance at that HR.

sedated
06-18-2007, 08:32 PM
Booing the World Champs?

....greatest fans in baseball.

they weren't booing.

they were saying 'loooooosers'

Coach
06-18-2007, 08:33 PM
Come on Perez, you little....

Coach
06-18-2007, 08:34 PM
*whew* Warning track power by Ludwick.

2 outs.

End of 4th inning.

5-2 Royals leading.

Pitt Gorilla
06-18-2007, 08:35 PM
I wish the Royals would have taken a chance on Ludwick. That guy owned in EA's 2005 game.

SnakeXJones
06-18-2007, 08:35 PM
fatboy Perez got out of that

Coach
06-18-2007, 08:41 PM
Damned GIDP.

Coach
06-18-2007, 08:46 PM
Damn Perez, why are you getting owned by Wrainwright?

stlchiefs
06-18-2007, 08:46 PM
that staduim is awesome

Looks cool, in reality it sucks. They went cheap and just lined the seats in a row with nothing centered towards home = Site Lines SUCK. Bathrooms seem to be far apart (but they don't have troughs).

It looks pretty but in reality is nothing that great, no real memorable part of the stadium, just a red brick throwback.

Fish
06-18-2007, 08:47 PM
25 runs last 2 games? Wow......

CoMoChief
06-18-2007, 08:47 PM
Welp thats the 2nd time Perez couldnt get Wainwright out and now it's gonna **** us.

Coach
06-18-2007, 08:47 PM
Yank him, please.

Coach
06-18-2007, 08:48 PM
****. Scott F**king Spiezio.

CoMoChief
06-18-2007, 08:49 PM
Told ya Cards score and Pujols is gonna bat this inning.

****

Demonpenz
06-18-2007, 08:50 PM
I would swing at atleast 1 interninal ball to wear at the pitcher that must more

luv
06-18-2007, 08:52 PM
Still 5-2? What is it with the Cards lately? They can't win shit!

Coach
06-18-2007, 08:52 PM
Thank god for double plays.

End of the 5th inning, 5-3 Royals leading.

Coach
06-18-2007, 08:54 PM
Still 5-2? What is it with the Cards lately? They can't win shit!

It's 5-3. Bases were loaded in the 5th, with one out, and Encarnacion grounded into double play.

Encarnacion is the pitcher's best friend.

Fish
06-18-2007, 08:54 PM
bahhh... lead off bunt?

Coach
06-18-2007, 08:54 PM
2 ****ing pitches and already 2 ****ing outs?

Are you ****ing kidding me?

CoMoChief
06-18-2007, 08:55 PM
Encarnacion is the pitcher's best friend.

That he is. Good job, Leave em on Juan.

luv
06-18-2007, 08:55 PM
It's 5-3. Bases were loaded in the 5th, with one out, and Encarnacion grounded into double play.

Encarnacion is the pitcher's best friend.
Damn. He did pretty decent last year. We're still in there, though!

Fish
06-18-2007, 08:56 PM
Ha ha.... "what up dog".....

Announcers are hip as shit...

Coach
06-18-2007, 08:57 PM
Gawdamned Marlins are gettin punked by the White Sox.

8-2, end of 4th.

Damned fish.

Miles
06-18-2007, 08:59 PM
That he is. Good job, Leave em on Juan.

LOBster

Coach
06-18-2007, 09:02 PM
1,2,3 inning.

Note to Buddy Bell: Perez is finished for the night.

Coach
06-18-2007, 09:06 PM
Come on, take some pitches, for goodness sakes!

Coach
06-18-2007, 09:09 PM
Come on Gordon! Deposit one out in right field!

Damn Poojuls!

Fish
06-18-2007, 09:09 PM
Ahhh damn..... thought he was gonna catch the gap....

Coach
06-18-2007, 09:13 PM
Aw shit, Riske is in....

Coach
06-18-2007, 09:14 PM
*whew*

I thought that was gone. Warning track power.

Coach
06-18-2007, 09:19 PM
Great inning. End the inning w/o any runners on for Poo-juls.

End of 7th.

Royals - 5
Cards - 3

Demonpenz
06-18-2007, 09:20 PM
buck has 3 times as many home runs as beltran does right now

leviw
06-18-2007, 09:22 PM
Aw shit, Riske is in....

Dude, catch up with the times. He's only given up two runs in his last 11 appearances.

Coach
06-18-2007, 09:24 PM
Dude, catch up with the times. He's only given up two runs in his last 11 appearances.

Yes, I'm aware of that. However, it's a bad omen when someone's last name is "Riske"

It's just risky business.





























:p

leviw
06-18-2007, 09:25 PM
buck has 3 times as many home runs as beltran does right now

Teahen, Buck > Beltran

Simply Red
06-18-2007, 09:27 PM
Scoring update requested by yours -> Stuck in Atlanta where they don't expose us to that filth. Joking. Scoring update please...

Coach
06-18-2007, 09:27 PM
Pujols is so good, it's starting to annoy me a bit.

Now watch the bastard lit one for 450+ ft.

Fish
06-18-2007, 09:27 PM
WTF Shealy? Deer in the headlights...

Coach
06-18-2007, 09:27 PM
Scoring update requested by yours -> Stuck in Atlanta where they don't expose us to that filth. Joking. Scoring update please...

5-3 Royals leading, Mid 8th.

Miles
06-18-2007, 09:28 PM
Very nice play by Pujols.

leviw
06-18-2007, 09:28 PM
5-3 Royals, Bot. 8

Coach
06-18-2007, 09:30 PM
Pujols popped out harmlessly in shallow RF.

Miles
06-18-2007, 09:31 PM
Teahen, Buck > Beltran

Hardly, but it's definitely a hell of a lot better than a half season of Beltran. That trade is starting to look pretty good.

Simply Red
06-18-2007, 09:31 PM
Very nice play by Pujols.
How have you been Miles?

Coach
06-18-2007, 09:32 PM
Hardly, but it's definitely a hell of a lot better than a half season of Beltran. That trade is starting to look pretty good.

Especially when you need to factor in the cost as well. I mean, Beltran with that money? I think not, you know?

Miles
06-18-2007, 09:33 PM
How have you been Miles?

Pretty good and have been keeping busy.

Coach
06-18-2007, 09:34 PM
Heeeeeee struck his ass out.

2 down.

Fish
06-18-2007, 09:34 PM
Wow... nice pitch there...

Simply Red
06-18-2007, 09:35 PM
Pretty good and have been keeping busy.
Been a LONG time. I fired up Mulholland D. on Saturday night. Psst... Have you seen Inland Empire yet? (sorry to hijack.)

Coach
06-18-2007, 09:35 PM
End of 8th.

5-3, Royals.

BWillie
06-18-2007, 09:37 PM
A bucket of dog shit > National League

Miles
06-18-2007, 09:38 PM
Especially when you need to factor in the cost as well. I mean, Beltran with that money? I think not, you know?

If he could ever manage to stay healthy it's not a bad contract for a larger market team. Even for the sake of argument a contract like that would have handicapped KC for years.

Miles
06-18-2007, 09:39 PM
Been a LONG time. I fired up Mulholland D. on Saturday night. Psst... Have you seen Inland Empire yet? (sorry to hijack.)

No, I was a little surprised it was never shown in Denver. If it was I missed it.

Last I checked the DVD was out sometime in August. Looking forward to it.

Coach
06-18-2007, 09:39 PM
If he could ever manage to stay healthy it's not a bad contract for a larger market team. Even for the sake of argument a contract like that would have handicapped KC for years.

That's true, and I agree. I just don't think he'll stay healthy as much as I'd like for him to.

leviw
06-18-2007, 09:43 PM
If he could ever manage to stay healthy it's not a bad contract for a larger market team. Even for the sake of argument a contract like that would have handicapped KC for years.

Not to mention the two everyday starters with All-Star potential KC got in return.

Simply Red
06-18-2007, 09:46 PM
No, I was a little surprised it was never shown in Denver. If it was I missed it.

Last I checked the DVD was out sometime in August. Looking forward to it.

Very select viewing crowd (he avoided the mainstream.) May be a purchase reserved for Amazon. Like your town, (very eclectic) I have yet to see it announced it Atlanta. B-venues and all. Anyhow please stay in touch.

-SR(again sorry to hijack)

Miles
06-18-2007, 09:48 PM
Not to mention the two everyday starters with All-Star potential KC got in return.

Even if they just end up being good solid starters that was a very good deal for a rental player.

Coach
06-18-2007, 09:48 PM
I guess Dotel wants to make this game a little bit more interesting....

Coach
06-18-2007, 09:54 PM
1 more....

close the deal!

Coach
06-18-2007, 09:56 PM
Struck his ass out!

Royals win, 5-3.

tk13
06-18-2007, 09:57 PM
Dial it up, blew him away. Good win. Can't do any worse than a split of the season series now.

Anyong Bluth
06-18-2007, 09:58 PM
nice, something small to enjoy for the evening.

Fish
06-18-2007, 09:58 PM
Sweeeeet.... good win...

BWillie
06-18-2007, 09:59 PM
Can anybody tell me again why John Buck plays half of the time?

Miles
06-18-2007, 10:00 PM
It has been a really long time since I have seen Dotel pitch. After he gave up the first hit his stuff looked pretty damn good.

Mr. Laz
06-18-2007, 10:03 PM
:clap:

Coach
06-18-2007, 10:03 PM
Well, the good news, the Twinkies lost.

The bad news, Sux is winning 10-5 in the 7th.

'Hamas' Jenkins
06-18-2007, 10:04 PM
It has been a really long time since I have seen Dotel pitch. After he gave up the first hit his stuff looked pretty damn good.

I remember when Houston got rid of Wagner, I thought Dotel would step right in and not lose a step. I was really surprised when they jettisoned him to Oakland, and put Lidge in his stead. As their setup man in '02-'03, he was brutal.

Mr. Laz
06-18-2007, 10:05 PM
Can anybody tell me again why John Buck plays half of the time?
i wonder the same

LaRue should only be giving him a break


i think we should see what Brown can do as a daily too.


German seems to be struggling with a bunch of playing time ....... but we probably should find out about him too.

Miles
06-18-2007, 10:11 PM
I remember when Houston got rid of Wagner, I thought Dotel would step right in and not lose a step. I was really surprised when they jettisoned him to Oakland, and put Lidge in his stead. As their setup man in '02-'03, he was brutal.

I actually thought Lidge was really good in his setup role. He as a rookie and wore down in the 2nd half. Lidge in the 8th and Dotel in the 9th was a damn nice combo.

In '04 I remember Dotel getting off to a fairly shaky start and Lidge looking very dominate.

Pitt Gorilla
06-18-2007, 10:12 PM
The Royals could have ended up with just about everyone from that trade. Had we resigned Beltran, we just about would have. I've defended that trade all along and it's nice to see that it has worked out well for us.

PunkinDrublic
06-18-2007, 10:28 PM
Quality smack about tard fans that I found online

Cardinal Nation is ruining the Cards for me
June 21, 2006

"Hi, everybody!"

"Hi, Dr. (Cy)nic!"

OK, there's my first lame Simpsons reference; I promise not to do any more for at least a month. (Note: That doesn't exclude other lame references to TV shows and movies. Expect plenty of those.) I'm Shawn, I'm cynical and bitter, and this is my blog. Nice to meet you.

The first thing everyone should know about me: I'm a Kansas City Royals fan. They're my first baseball love. The Cardinals are my second . . . well, sort of. I've always liked them, but my feelings always fell just short of love. Forget all the St. Louis vs. KC drama -- why can't a native Missourian root for both teams?

But after living in St. Louis for a little more than a year, I can guarantee that my fond feelings for the Cardinals will never blossom into love. In fact, they might be withering into hate. There's one simple reason: I can't stand most Cardinals fans. Here are the two main reasons.

They don't realize how good they have it. There's a prevailing sentiment in this town, spearheaded by a few local sports personalities, that Cardinals owner Bill DeWitt and the organization in general is cheap. That they aren't spending enough on their team. Fans of the Cardinals complaining about their owner pinching pennies is about as ridiculous as Ashlee Simpson complaining about Lindsay Lohan being a no-talent hack. The Cardinals payroll hovers around $90 million, which puts it, at worst, in the top 20 percent of the league. You want to talk about cheap owners? Look in Kansas City, Pittsburgh, Tampa Bay, Florida, Minnesota, etc. There's nothing more obnoxious than a fan of a team whose payroll exceeds the GNP of Togo complaining about that team's owner being cheap.

They aren't the "best fans in baseball." If I had a nickel for every time I heard a Cardinals backer start talking about this as if it were a conceded fact, I'd be at the World Cup right now. I'm not trying to say they're the worst fans, but there's no way they're the best. To be the best in baseball, a fan base needs to show better-than-average knowledge of the game in addition to extreme loyalty. Cards fans definitely don't show the required baseball IQ -- unless you count booing about the same old things (the pitcher throwing to first, intentional walks of a dangerous hitter with a base open, etc.) every common fan boos about. Who's the best? I don't know -- Maybe Red Sox or Yankees' fans? I just know it isn't Cardinals fans. Don't believe me? Here are a couple examples of Cards fans being . . . well . . . dumb:

1) Every time an opposing player hits a home run, Budweiser-fueled fans in the outfield bleachers start screaming for the person who caught the ball to ''throw it back.'' What's so bad about that, you ask? ''Throwing it back'' is a Wrigley Field tradition; the Cubs are the Cardinals' biggest rivals. The ''best fans in baseball'' can't imitate the traditions of their most hated rivals. 2) Cardinals fans give out curtain calls like Busch Stadium is a Broadway stage. Curtain calls are not supposed to be a nightly occurrence in baseball, folks. So Taguchi hitting an RBI single with the bases loaded to win the game should NOT be a curtain-call worthy occurrence. But it still happens in St. Louis. Oh, and one last thing: Stop mentioning being named ''Best Sports City'' by Sporting News when claiming the ''best fans'' title. St. Louis indeed was named BSC -- in 2002. That was four years ago. SN has named three cities BSC since then. It's a yearly award. Get the picture?

The worst thing is that I want to love the Cardinals. I love the way they play, and how can you not love that tradition? (I'm talking about the tradition of hard-nosed play and devotion to the game, not necessarily about the winning) But if I start loving the Cardinals, then I become a member of a fan base I can't stand. And I can't do that. That leaves me watching the Royals lose a ton of games, waiting for their next pitching prospect to flame out and waiting for college football season. Thanks a lot, Cardinal nation. Oh well . . . at least I've got fantasy baseball!

So which team has the best fans? Anybody want to visit this debate

duncan_idaho
06-18-2007, 11:00 PM
Direckshun:
That's a great find.... I wrote that!

chiefqueen
06-18-2007, 11:08 PM
Can anybody tell me again why John Buck plays half of the time?

To have him play full-time wouldn't be fair to LaRue.

BWillie
06-18-2007, 11:08 PM
The Royals could have ended up with just about everyone from that trade. Had we resigned Beltran, we just about would have. I've defended that trade all along and it's nice to see that it has worked out well for us.

Allan Baird lives! I kinda thought we canned Allan Baird a little too soon. He was trying to build a good team through small market baseball about the only way he knew how. If only Allan had the persuasiveness to get Glass to allow him to pay someone like Gil Meche 55 Million we would probably better off than worse. Probalby wouldn't of traded Joey Gathright for JP Howell, among other things. Anybody who says Odalis Perez is a good pickup is a ****ing moron too.

luv
06-18-2007, 11:19 PM
So which team has the best fans? Anybody want to visit this debate
I root for the Cardinals, but I would say that the Royals (of the Missouri teams) have the better fans.

Cochise
06-18-2007, 11:49 PM
best sports city? I guess all those fans come dressed up as empty chairs to the other games in town..

Mr. Laz
06-19-2007, 12:49 AM
I root for the Cardinals
:sulk:



i'll never picture you in my mind the same way again. :shake:

luv
06-19-2007, 12:53 AM
:sulk:



i'll never picture you in my mind the same way again. :shake:
You act like I follow them enough to know more than five players names on the team. I don't. I went to see them as a kid a lot, and my favorite player of all time is Ozzie Smith. That's it.

Why am I defending myself?

Mr. Laz
06-19-2007, 12:56 AM
Why am I defending myself?
ROFL


cause you enjoy being the subject of my imagination? :hmmm:


you're very flexible btw.....

Frazod
06-19-2007, 01:00 AM
Why am I defending myself?

I've given up trying to understand the hatred. The Cardinals and Royals haven't played a meaningful game for nearly 22 years, and the Royals won it. But for some reason the Cardinals are teh debil.

I've always rooted for both of them, growing up in Jefferson City. They never played against each other until I was 20, so it wasn't a problem when I was kid.

I try not to partake in purported Cardinal fan arrogance, or get riled up by OBVIOUS Royal fan bitterness. When these teams play each other, I stay neutral.

luv
06-19-2007, 01:02 AM
I've given up trying to understand the hatred. The Cardinals and Royals haven't played a meaningful game for nearly 22 years, and the Royals won it. But for some reason the Cardinals are teh debil.

I've always rooted for both of them, growing up in Jefferson City. They never played against each other until I was 20, so it wasn't a problem when I was kid.

I try not to partake in purported Cardinal fan arrogance, or get riled up by OBVIOUS Royal fan bitterness. When these teams play each other, I stay neutral.
My sentiments exactly. I reserve my hatred for such teams as the Cubs and Yankees.

leviw
06-19-2007, 01:03 AM
Allan Baird lives! I kinda thought we canned Allan Baird a little too soon. He was trying to build a good team through small market baseball about the only way he knew how. If only Allan had the persuasiveness to get Glass to allow him to pay someone like Gil Meche 55 Million we would probably better off than worse. Probalby wouldn't of traded Joey Gathright for JP Howell, among other things. Anybody who says Odalis Perez is a good pickup is a ****ing moron too.

Come on, man. Baird had six years and three managers and did nothing. Yeah, he was doing it the only way he knew how, but that clearly wasn't going to be good enough.

There's no reason to think, to this point, that Gathright for Howell was a bad trade. It took Howell until the beginning of this month to even get back to the Bigs in the freakin' Tampa Bay organization. Gathright's speed is second to none in the league. He can play the corner outfield spots and get on base, and when he does get on, he's a virtual lock to get into scoring position.

Odalis Perez cost next to nothing. They gave up Elmer Dessens, a journey-man reliever, for a middle of the rotation starter with a history of success. There's no way that was a bad trade. None.

This franchise is fortunate to have parted with Baird, let alone hire Dayton Moore in return.

Mr. Laz
06-19-2007, 01:03 AM
I try not to partake in purported Cardinal fan arrogance,




or get riled up by OBVIOUS Royal fan bitterness.
LMAO

keg in kc
06-19-2007, 01:05 AM
I've given up trying to understand the hatred. I think you provide an answer to that later...I try not to partake in purported Cardinal fan arroganceI think there's also a general dislike here in KC for St. Loser in general.

Frazod
06-19-2007, 01:06 AM
My sentiments exactly. I reserve my hatred for such teams as the Cubs and Yankees.

Exactly. :thumb:

And BTW, when the Cardinals played the Royals in the '85 World Series, I rooted for the Royals. And if they would ever play in another World Series, I'd still root for the Royals. When push comes to shove, I will never root against a Kansas City team.

But that's not really an issue any more. And that has nothing to do with me or the Cardinals. It's not our fault Glass destroyed the team.

Frazod
06-19-2007, 01:10 AM
LMAO

If you could look at Cards/Royals posts objectively, you'd see that nasty shots by Royals fans outnumber nasty shots by Cards fans by a ratio of about 10 to 1.

I'm not responsible for some goober Cards fan you run into at the local QuickTrip that makes your life a living hell. I'm talking about Cards fans on this BB. And we get blasted nonstop by you f#ckers no matter what we do or say. And it's really getting old.

luv
06-19-2007, 01:15 AM
If you could look at Cards/Royals posts objectively, you'd see that nasty shots by Royals fans outnumber nasty shots by Cards fans by a ratio of about 10 to 1.

I'm not responsible for some goober Cards fan you run into at the local QuickTrip that makes your life a living hell. I'm talking about Cards fans on this BB. And we get blasted nonstop by you f#ckers no matter what we do or say. And it's really getting old.
I have found that they get rather defensive when you ask them how many World Series they've been in since 1985. I may have even been on the offensive when saying that. I won't lie.

leviw
06-19-2007, 01:16 AM
Exactly. :thumb:

And BTW, when the Cardinals played the Royals in the '85 World Series, I rooted for the Royals. And if they would ever play in another World Series, I'd still root for the Royals. When push comes to shove, I will never root against a Kansas City team.

But that's not really an issue any more. And that has nothing to do with me or the Cardinals. It's not our fault Glass destroyed the team.

I love all you idiots who seem to think that a bad season somehow erases a WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP.

Does it suck for me that the Cards are so bad this year? Of course. I won't deny that it's embarrassing. But until the final out of the 2007 World Series, they are THE CHAMPIONS. I got two tickets to a Cards/Cubs game at Wrigley in August for my birthday. When I go, I'll be wearing the colors of the defending champions. Win or lose, that can't be taken away.

Great. So you root for both. How convenient.

You're right. The Cardinals won the World Series fair and square last year. And no one can take that away. Just because the 2006 Cardinals will go down as one of the worst World Series champions of all time, but that sill doesn't take the trophy a way. But regardless, all that makes, or at least should make, this year that much more emarrassing.

You're also right that there should be no bitterness. Until the final out of the XXXX World Series if/when the two teams play again, the Royals own the Cardinals, no matter what happens in any other meeting between the two teams.

Frazod
06-19-2007, 01:21 AM
And another thing - I used to go watch the Royals play at least a couple of times a year - either at Comiskey or in Milwaukee back before the Brewers switched leagues. I finally quit going because I got sick of watching them LOSE EVERY SINGLE GODDAMN GAME I went to. Seriously, the only Royals game I've attended in person for the last decade that they didn't lose was a friggin rain out. Hell, the last time I went to a game at U.S. Cellular, the White Sox fans FELT SORRY FOR ME. Do you know how much you have to suck before those goons express sympathy? I just couldn't take it anymore.

I don't need my team to win a Championship every year - if that was the case, I wouldn't root for any of my teams (Chiefs, Cards, Royals, Tigers), who have between them won a combined ONE championship in the past two decades. But I do require them to show up. And they all generally show up except for the Royals.

SPchief
06-19-2007, 01:24 AM
The royals sure haven't shown up at all this year against the Cardinals.

luv
06-19-2007, 01:24 AM
And another thing - I used to go watch the Royals play at least a couple of times a year - either at Comiskey or in Milwaukee back before the Brewers switched leagues. I finally quit going because I got sick of watching them LOSE EVERY SINGLE GODDAMN GAME I went to. Seriously, the only Royals game I've attended in person for the last decade that they didn't lose was a friggin rain out. Hell, the last time I went to a game at U.S. Cellular, the White Sox fans FELT SORRY FOR ME. Do you know how much you have to suck before those goons express sympathy? I just couldn't take it anymore.

I don't need my team to win a Championship every year - if that was the case, I wouldn't root for any of my teams (Chiefs, Cards, Royals, Tigers), who have between them won a combined ONE championship in the past two decades. But I do require them to show up. And they all generally show up except for the Royals.
Actually, the Royals have been doing a pretty good job of 'showing up' the Cardinals lately.

Frazod
06-19-2007, 01:27 AM
Great. So you root for both. How convenient.

Blow me.

Some of you people act like New Yorkers. There is a whole vast f#cking state out there beyond the borders of Kansas City. And I happened to grow up right the middle of it.

BOTH TEAMS were on TV. Pretty much equally.
BOTH TEAMS got press coverage. Again, fairly equal.
BOTH TEAMS were good.
AND THEY NEVER PLAYED EACH OTHER.

UNTIL I WAS TWENTY YEARS OLD.

I feel like I'm trying to explain chess to my cat here. Why is this so difficult to understand?

Frazod
06-19-2007, 01:30 AM
The royals sure haven't shown up at all this year against the Cardinals.

21 years, no division titles, no playoff appearances = not showing up.

I wish it wasn't the case, but it is.

And again, this has nothing to do with the St. Louis Cardinals.

SPchief
06-19-2007, 01:32 AM
21 years, no division titles, no playoff appearances = not showing up.

I wish it wasn't the case, but it is.

And again, this has nothing to do with the St. Louis Cardinals.


I have no disrespect for the Cards or some of their fans. Hell one of my best friends is a Cards fans. But alot of cards fans are arrogant and jackasses. That fuels my hatred for the city because of it.

Frazod
06-19-2007, 01:35 AM
Well, I've beat my head against the blue wall enough for one night. Good night. Nobody's going to win jackshit this year, so everybody should be happy. :shake:

leviw
06-19-2007, 01:37 AM
Blow me.

Some of you people act like New Yorkers. There is a whole vast f#cking state out there beyond the borders of Kansas City. And I happened to grow up right the middle of it.

BOTH TEAMS were on TV. Pretty much equally.
BOTH TEAMS got press coverage. Again, fairly equal.
BOTH TEAMS were good.
AND THEY NEVER PLAYED EACH OTHER.

UNTIL I WAS TWENTY YEARS OLD.

I feel like I'm trying to explain chess to my cat here. Why is this so difficult to understand?

Let's answer your question with a question: Why is it so difficult to pick a team?

Your other posts on this thread and others have already pegged you as a Cardinals fan. That's fine. Stick with it. Nobody is going to hold it against you. You grew up in Missouri. It makes sense.

So why don't you do yourself a favor and drop the Royals as one of your favorite teams, instead of dragging them through the mud then rationalizing your insults with the "They suck. But it's OK, I can say that, I'm a fan!" bullshit?

shrek6849
06-19-2007, 01:40 AM
Let's answer your question with a question: Why is it so difficult to pick a team?

Your other posts on this thread and others have already pegged you as a Cardinals fan. That's fine. Stick with it. Nobody is going to hold it against you. You grew up in Missouri. It makes sense.

So why don't you do yourself a favor and drop the Royals as one of your favorite teams, instead of dragging them through the mud then rationalizing your insults with the "They suck. But it's OK, I can say that, I'm a fan!" bullshit?

I agree.

Frazod
06-19-2007, 02:14 AM
Let's answer your question with a question: Why is it so difficult to pick a team?

Your other posts on this thread and others have already pegged you as a Cardinals fan. That's fine. Stick with it. Nobody is going to hold it against you. You grew up in Missouri. It makes sense.

So why don't you do yourself a favor and drop the Royals as one of your favorite teams, instead of dragging them through the mud then rationalizing your insults with the "They suck. But it's OK, I can say that, I'm a fan!" bullshit?

Why should I? Because you and some dumbf#ck Bronco troll think I should? Not likely.

Yes, I did grow up in Missouri. And last time I checked, Kansas City is in Missouri. Really, I've seen maps and everything - it's true. When I have to choose between them, I have (I never lived anywhere near St. Louis, but I was born in Kansas City). The funny thing is that nobody has a problem with this except for bitter Royal fans. No Cardinal fan has ever given me grief about it. Of course, they don't suffer from a massive inferiority complex, which is the absolute root of all this bickering.

You sound like a typical White Sox fan (pre-2005) bitching about the Cubs. And yes, that is sad.

Pitt Gorilla
06-19-2007, 02:19 AM
I have found that they get rather defensive when you ask them how many World Series they've been in since 1985. I may have even been on the offensive when saying that. I won't lie.That's perfect coming from a Chiefs fan.

leviw
06-19-2007, 02:26 AM
Why should I? Because you and some dumbf#ck Bronco troll think I should? Not likely.

Yes, I did grow up in Missouri. And last time I checked, Kansas City is in Missouri. Really, I've seen maps and everything - it's true. When I have to choose between them, I have (I never lived anywhere near St. Louis, but I was born in Kansas City). The funny thing is that nobody has a problem with this except for bitter Royal fans. No Cardinal fan has ever given me grief about it. Of course, they don't suffer from a massive inferiority complex, which is the absolute root of all this bickering.

You sound like a typical White Sox fan (pre-2005) bitching about the Cubs. And yes, that is sad.

First of all, your logic is beyond lazy.

Secondly, I don't give a shit if your two teams are the Twins and Giants, having more than one favorite baseball team makes you look like a 9 year old. Having one of them because you can justify saying they suck and don't compete because you grew up near there is embarrassing.

But hey, if you're comfortable with it, have at it.

SPchief
06-19-2007, 02:27 AM
Of course, they don't suffer from a massive inferiority complex, which is the absolute root of all this bickering.




This may be the root of my hatred towards St. Louis. I think that a lot of St. louisians portray themselves as being superior to everybody else.

Bearcat
06-19-2007, 03:07 AM
Just got home from a day in St. Louis and an evening at Busch Stadium. It's a great looking stadium, but I like the feel to the K because you're more on top of the game. New stadiums are build with so much open space and the rows aren't as steep. Driving by the K a few hours later really confirmed it.

Concourses -- So THAT's why people complain about our stadiums!!! I knew they were bad in terms of traffic, but I always coped. We went to the 3rd level, and as silly as it sounds, I was in awe at what I saw. A WIDE open area where lots of people could freely walk around, or sit at a table and eat. Yeah, we need that here.

I was a little disappointed because of the empty seats, but they said there were over 42,000 (don't know what it holds)... it was still pretty loud, especially when booing the 2nd Pujols walk :) It was definitely a great atmosphere to watch a game. Even hours before it seemed like everyone we saw at Union Station and around downtown was wearing red. It would be cool to have that here 81 games a year.

Downtown -- Eh... We didn't spend a lot of time looking around, but I wasn't overly impressed. We parked at the arch, which I think made all the difference in getting out of downtown asap after the game.

And no Planeteer trip to St. Louis would be complete without...

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r143/bearcat2002/ArchPeeing2.jpg

SPchief
06-19-2007, 04:05 AM
Just got home from a day in St. Louis and an evening at Busch Stadium. It's a great looking stadium, but I like the feel to the K because you're more on top of the game. New stadiums are build with so much open space and the rows aren't as steep. Driving by the K a few hours later really confirmed it.

Concourses -- So THAT's why people complain about our stadiums!!! I knew they were bad in terms of traffic, but I always coped. We went to the 3rd level, and as silly as it sounds, I was in awe at what I saw. A WIDE open area where lots of people could freely walk around, or sit at a table and eat. Yeah, we need that here.

I was a little disappointed because of the empty seats, but they said there were over 42,000 (don't know what it holds)... it was still pretty loud, especially when booing the 2nd Pujols walk :) It was definitely a great atmosphere to watch a game. Even hours before it seemed like everyone we saw at Union Station and around downtown was wearing red. It would be cool to have that here 81 games a year.

Downtown -- Eh... We didn't spend a lot of time looking around, but I wasn't overly impressed. We parked at the arch, which I think made all the difference in getting out of downtown asap after the game.

And no Planeteer trip to St. Louis would be complete without...

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r143/bearcat2002/ArchPeeing2.jpg


Is that slayer pissing on the arch? Or you?

Anyong Bluth
06-19-2007, 07:36 AM
Why should I? Because you and some dumbf#ck Bronco troll think I should? Not likely.

Yes, I did grow up in Missouri. And last time I checked, Kansas City is in Missouri. Really, I've seen maps and everything - it's true. When I have to choose between them, I have (I never lived anywhere near St. Louis, but I was born in Kansas City). The funny thing is that nobody has a problem with this except for bitter Royal fans. No Cardinal fan has ever given me grief about it. Of course, they don't suffer from a massive inferiority complex, which is the absolute root of all this bickering.

You sound like a typical White Sox fan (pre-2005) bitching about the Cubs. And yes, that is sad.



St. Louis fans don't suffer from inferiority complex? I'd say that would be a major gripe I'd have w/ many a St. Louis fans. Going around puffing their chest wishing they were sweeter than they are. St. Louis may look down on KC or its fans, but it won't take back '85, but that town def. wishes it was Chicago or NY. I pretty sure there was a thread around here, where a St.L resident defended St.L by saying that its not like Chicago, but more like an east coast city like NY. I can't even make this sh!t up.

Growing up in KC, I never liked St.L, and I've gone out and been there plenty of times. The only thing that St.L has going for it is the fact they have Jeff. city eating out of the palm of their hand, while KC gets scraps in terms of funding.

'Hamas' Jenkins
06-19-2007, 08:12 AM
Great. So you root for both. How convenient.

You're right. The Cardinals won the World Series fair and square last year. And no one can take that away. Just because the 2006 Cardinals will go down as one of the worst World Series champions of all time, but that sill doesn't take the trophy a way. But regardless, all that makes, or at least should make, this year that much more emarrassing.

You're also right that there should be no bitterness. Until the final out of the XXXX World Series if/when the two teams play again, the Royals own the Cardinals, no matter what happens in any other meeting between the two teams.


I love how Frazod perfectly frames the bitterness of Royal fans, and then you launch forward with this post, directly afterward.

It's almost like you're a trained dog, or he was a tour guide pointing out obvious features of various landmarks.

"Over here we have a Royal fan. Watch their irrational hatred for St. Louis spring forth at the slightest mention."

"St. Louis"


Royal Fan: :bang: :bang: :bang:


It's like pulling a string, man.

'Hamas' Jenkins
06-19-2007, 08:15 AM
St. Louis fans don't suffer from inferiority complex? I'd say that would be a major gripe I'd have w/ many a St. Louis fans. Going around puffing their chest wishing they were sweeter than they are. St. Louis may look down on KC or its fans, but it won't take back '85, but that town def. wishes it was Chicago or NY. I pretty sure there was a thread around here, where a St.L resident defended St.L by saying that its not like Chicago, but more like an east coast city like NY. I can't even make this sh!t up.

Growing up in KC, I never liked St.L, and I've gone out and been there plenty of times. The only thing that St.L has going for it is the fact they have Jeff. city eating out of the palm of their hand, while KC gets scraps in terms of funding.

I swear to god you posted the exact same thing last week. Possibly verbatim.

Codered
06-19-2007, 08:17 AM
Another great game! Man why couldn't we play the Cards 19 x's a year! That defensive play by Alex Gordon was totally amazing!

Anyong Bluth
06-19-2007, 08:34 AM
I swear to god you posted the exact same thing last week. Possibly verbatim.


Probably. The stupid topic comes up every time the 2 teams play. It does get pretty cyclical and rehashed. So long as the Royals win. I just don't understand the duality of some Cards fans- never will. I don't have any hatred for St. Louis fans that I know personally, but I've heard enough random comments to be turned off. It doesn't help growing up being a Royals fan, and the Cubs being your NL team.

'Hamas' Jenkins
06-19-2007, 08:45 AM
Probably. The stupid topic comes up every time the 2 teams play. It does get pretty cyclical and rehashed. So long as the Royals win. I just don't understand the duality of some Cards fans- never will. I don't have any hatred for St. Louis fans that I know personally, but I've heard enough random comments to be turned off. It doesn't help growing up being a Royals fan, and the Cubs being your NL team.

Are you into masochism as well? :p

Codered
06-19-2007, 08:47 AM
Ok the Cards are bad enough, but how can anyone be a fan of the Cubs! UGH!

Frazod
06-19-2007, 09:12 AM
First of all, your logic is beyond lazy.

Secondly, I don't give a shit if your two teams are the Twins and Giants, having more than one favorite baseball team makes you look like a 9 year old. Having one of them because you can justify saying they suck and don't compete because you grew up near there is embarrassing.

But hey, if you're comfortable with it, have at it.

How is logic lazy? That may be the dumbest thing I've ever seen posted here. :spock: And that 9 year old crack is probably the second dumbest.

We're back to teaching the cat to play chess. It amazes me how you don't get this. Are you confused by sunrises as well? I root for the teams I always rooted for, same as you or anybody else. Simple concept here, but apparently only for the non-retarded.

Frazod
06-19-2007, 09:26 AM
St. Louis fans don't suffer from inferiority complex? I'd say that would be a major gripe I'd have w/ many a St. Louis fans. Going around puffing their chest wishing they were sweeter than they are. St. Louis may look down on KC or its fans, but it won't take back '85, but that town def. wishes it was Chicago or NY. I pretty sure there was a thread around here, where a St.L resident defended St.L by saying that its not like Chicago, but more like an east coast city like NY. I can't even make this sh!t up.

Growing up in KC, I never liked St.L, and I've gone out and been there plenty of times. The only thing that St.L has going for it is the fact they have Jeff. city eating out of the palm of their hand, while KC gets scraps in terms of funding.

When it comes to baseball, the last meaningful game St. Louis played in New York ended with 50,000 arrogant New York assholes crying like little girls while the Cardinals celebrated a pennant win in the middle of their field. Inferior to New York? Not at the moment.

StcChief
06-19-2007, 09:27 AM
When it comes to baseball, the last meaningful game St. Louis played in New York ended with 50,000 arrogant New York assholes crying like little girls while the Cardinals celebrated a pennant win in the middle of their field. Inferior to New York? Not at the moment.
:clap: :clap: F NYC

Saulbadguy
06-19-2007, 09:45 AM
Freaking hilarious.

OnTheWarpath58
06-19-2007, 10:20 AM
This may be the root of my hatred towards St. Louis. I think that a lot of St. louisians portray themselves as being superior to everybody else.

I think a lot of you have taken a few examples of this and turned it into something it is not. Now it's convenient for your argument, and justifies this supposed hatred.

I am a St. Louisan born and raised, 34 years living in this city. And I can tell you that EVERY, and I literally mean EVERY person I know here, friends, family, etc. has NOTHING but great things to say about KC. They prefer it to STL and would move there if the opportunity was there.

Whenever I wear Chiefs gear around town, it never fails that someone mentions it, and when I tell them I'm a STH, they talk about how great Arrowhead is, how they wish they had an atmosphere like that, etc. People always mention the Plaza, Nelson-Atkins, etc as well.

There are jackoff fans in EVERY city. I know I don't hold all Chiefs fans responsible for the bullshit I see at Arrowhead EVERY WEEK.

But , hey, if you want to label an entire city, be my guest.

StcChief
06-19-2007, 10:27 AM
I think a lot of you have taken a few examples of this and turned it into something it is not. Now it's convenient for your argument, and justifies this supposed hatred.

I am a St. Louisan born and raised, 34 years living in this city. And I can tell you that EVERY, and I literally mean EVERY person I know here, friends, family, etc. has NOTHING but great things to say about KC. They prefer it to STL and would move there if the opportunity was there.

Whenever I wear Chiefs gear around town, it never fails that someone mentions it, and when I tell them I'm a STH, they talk about how great Arrowhead is, how they wish they had an atmosphere like that, etc. People always mention the Plaza, Nelson-Atkins, etc as well.

There are jackoff fans in EVERY city. I know I don't hold all Chiefs fans responsible for the bullshit I see at Arrowhead EVERY WEEK.

But , hey, if you want to label an entire city, be my guest.

Agree.

I didn't grow up here but have been a Cards fan since following baseball from 60s on....

Lived in W suburbs since moving here in 1978.

I've Never really heard anyone say bad things about KC. They love Arrowhead, Football intensity, BBQ, plaza, etc.

Their are a##hole fans everywhere even here.... I take it with a grain of salt.

I don't see a superiority attitude about the town. State Rivalry sure, same as Chicago /Houston in MLB C divison Baseball.

'Hamas' Jenkins
06-19-2007, 10:46 AM
Agree.

I didn't grow up here but have been a Cards fan since following baseball from 60s on....

Lived in W suburbs since moving here in 1978.

I've Never really heard anyone say bad things about KC. They love Arrowhead, Football intensity, BBQ, plaza, etc.

Their are a##hole fans everywhere even here.... I take it with a grain of salt.

I don't see a superiority attitude about the town. State Rivalry sure, same as Chicago /Houston in MLB C divison Baseball.

Sorry dude. St Louis fans are the biggest jerk prick assholes in the world. They think the world revolves around them, when in reality all they are is a piss poor NYC wannabe town.

Bunch of east coast posuer pricks man.

Codered
06-19-2007, 10:48 AM
I know some Chiefs/Cards fans who trash Rams fans, but in the same breath talk about how Cardinals fans are the best in all of sports.

Aren't a lot of them the same people? :)

'Hamas' Jenkins
06-19-2007, 10:52 AM
I know some Chiefs/Cards fans who trash Rams fans, but in the same breath talk about how Cardinals fans are the best in all of sports.

Aren't a lot of them the same people? :)

Rams fans are definitely more bandwagon prone, but if you were a lifelong St. Louis fan and your dipshit owner whisked your other team away, you've definitely got an excuse for adopting a new football team, especially when they've just moved in town.

Codered
06-19-2007, 10:59 AM
I'm not saying you can't root for the Chiefs if you are a Cardinals fan. What I am saying is those fans who talk down on the "Rams" fans, but then say the Cardinals and St. Louis fans are great just don't make a whole lot of sense ya know?

gblowfish
06-19-2007, 11:04 AM
I have many dear friends from college who live in St. Louis. My sister moved there for work about 20 years ago.

You can't diss St. Louis baseball fans. They are up there with Boston fans for smarts, Cubs fans for loyalty, and they've won ten World Series. That's something to be proud of.

They can't touch KC for football fans. And Royals fans are incredibly loyal, the team ownership has crapped all over the fans for the last 20 years.

There's many great people in St. Louis. Both cities have their share of jerks. Most the ones in St. Louis live in west and south county, most in KC live in Johnson County.

Just avoid those areas, and you'll be fine!

StcChief
06-19-2007, 11:06 AM
Sorry dude. St Louis fans are the biggest jerk prick assholes in the world. They think the world revolves around them, when in reality all they are is a piss poor NYC wannabe town.

Bunch of east coast posuer pricks man. I've never seen that here. I 've never heard anyone wish they were NYC.

EC poser pricks.... I guess I don't know any "real" st.louisans like you....

Actually all of my friends are NOT FROM STL but live here now.

OnTheWarpath58
06-19-2007, 11:11 AM
I'm not saying you can't root for the Chiefs if you are a Cardinals fan. What I am saying is those fans who talk down on the "Rams" fans, but then say the Cardinals and St. Louis fans are great just don't make a whole lot of sense ya know?


Honestly, I think it's two very different groups of fans. Sure, there's some overlap, but honestly not a lot.

STL has ALWAYS been a baseball town. First and foremost. MOST (not all) are very knowledgeable when it comes to the game. The Cardinals draw over 3M fans even in bad years. They enjoy baseball period, and I've seen the crowd give an opposing player a standing ovation for a great play, pitching performance, or just reputation (Griffey Jr. after a HR moved him up the list.....as example) on numerous occasions.

Football has usually played 3rd fiddle while here, and probably still would had the Blues Hockey Team not taken a turn for the worse the past few years after the work stoppage.

Football fans here, for the most part ARE NOT knowledgeable, and it shows when you go to a game.

OnTheWarpath58
06-19-2007, 11:12 AM
I've never seen that here. I 've never heard anyone wish they were NYC.

EC poser pricks.... I guess I don't know any "real" st.louisans like you....

Actually all of my friends are NOT FROM STL but live here now.

Turn up the sarcasm meter......

Frazod
06-19-2007, 11:16 AM
I'm not saying you can't root for the Chiefs if you are a Cardinals fan. What I am saying is those fans who talk down on the "Rams" fans, but then say the Cardinals and St. Louis fans are great just don't make a whole lot of sense ya know?

I run into some problems with this. I detest the Rams, yet I love the Cardinals. But again, there's a simple reason for this - I didn't grow up in or near Los Angeles. I root for the teams I always rooted for, and that never included (or will ever include) the Rams. To me, they're just dome pussy interlopers. I wish they'd go back to LA.

Sure-Oz
06-19-2007, 11:17 AM
Honestly, I think it's two very different groups of fans. Sure, there's some overlap, but honestly not a lot.

STL has ALWAYS been a baseball town. First and foremost. MOST (not all) are very knowledgeable when it comes to the game. The Cardinals draw over 3M fans even in bad years. They enjoy baseball period, and I've seen the crowd give an opposing player a standing ovation for a great play, pitching performance, or just reputation (Griffey Jr. after a HR moved him up the list.....as example) on numerous occasions.

Football has usually played 3rd fiddle while here, and probably still would had the Blues Hockey Team not taken a turn for the worse the past few years after the work stoppage.

Football fans here, for the most part ARE NOT knowledgeable, and it shows when you go to a game.
It was funny seeing cards fans leave just before the 9th inning started and they were down just 2 runs.

crazycoffey
06-19-2007, 11:30 AM
It was funny seeing cards fans leave just before the 9th inning started and they were down just 2 runs.


I know, right. Half the damn stadium left. we had a shot, the starting lineup was coming back around. I was there with my boys (they are visiting for the summer) Great night, even with a loss.

I was surprised with Pujols glove, he made a couple good plays on defense including that catch and tag out. I'm just saying, for a big - home run hitter, he was surprisingly agile.

Sure-Oz
06-19-2007, 11:45 AM
I know, right. Half the damn stadium left. we had a shot, the starting lineup was coming back around. I was there with my boys (they are visiting for the summer) Great night, even with a loss.

I was surprised with Pujols glove, he made a couple good plays on defense including that catch and tag out. I'm just saying, for a big - home run hitter, he was surprisingly agile.
He's been pretty solid fielding for sure...i still thought gordon's play was insane. Replays definetly backed him up on that. Alot of people that it was initially safe, esp the fans there but the guy was out. Some good defense in that game, except rolens lack of range.

'Hamas' Jenkins
06-19-2007, 11:48 AM
I've never seen that here. I 've never heard anyone wish they were NYC.

EC poser pricks.... I guess I don't know any "real" st.louisans like you....

Actually all of my friends are NOT FROM STL but live here now.

ROFL

I suggest you read some of my other posts about St. Louis, and as Warpath said, check your meter.

StcChief
06-19-2007, 12:05 PM
ROFL

I suggest you read some of my other posts about St. Louis, and as Warpath said, check your meter.
meter? I don't park downtown, I take the Metro train. :p

Sully
06-19-2007, 12:07 PM
I "accidentally" stole a parking meter from St Louis a few years ago.
Messing around, I pulled up on it, and the damn thing wasn't even attached to the pole it was on. Couldn't get it back on the pole, so I threw it in the car.

duncan_idaho
06-19-2007, 01:50 PM
He's been pretty solid fielding for sure...i still thought gordon's play was insane. Replays definetly backed him up on that. Alot of people that it was initially safe, esp the fans there but the guy was out. Some good defense in that game, except rolens lack of range.

I've been shocked by Rolen's lack of range... he has to be banged up... it's not possible to go from the greatest defender of your generation to what he is now in one season, unless there's an injury.

Bearcat
06-19-2007, 02:00 PM
He's been pretty solid fielding for sure...i still thought gordon's play was insane. Replays definetly backed him up on that. Alot of people that it was initially safe, esp the fans there but the guy was out. Some good defense in that game, except rolens lack of range.

I don't care how "controversial" it was or if he was actually safe or out; I couldn't believe they didn't show a replay at the stadium. It really was insane and deserved to be seen a few more times.

Stewie
06-19-2007, 02:03 PM
I "accidentally" stole a parking meter from St Louis a few years ago.
Messing around, I pulled up on it, and the damn thing wasn't even attached to the pole it was on. Couldn't get it back on the pole, so I threw it in the car.

That sort of thing is what got "Cool Hand Luke" in trouble.

OnTheWarpath58
06-19-2007, 03:54 PM
It was funny seeing cards fans leave just before the 9th inning started and they were down just 2 runs.

When's the last time you've been to a game at Arrowhead?

It's become common to see fans leave a close game with the entire 4th quarter to go.....

StcChief
06-19-2007, 03:58 PM
It was funny seeing cards fans leave just before the 9th inning started and they were down just 2 runs.
what's more funny is Royals have trouble drawing any attendence after the all-star break when they are 15 out.

Yet the Cards still draw 30-45k every game.

Frazod
06-19-2007, 04:13 PM
BTW, were I a sports betting kind of guy, I'd put serious money on the Royals tonight. Kip GOD I SUCK ASS Wells is starting tonight.

Hopefully for the last time. :#

OnTheWarpath58
06-19-2007, 04:16 PM
BTW, were I a sports betting kind of guy, I'd put serious money on the Royals tonight. Kip GOD I SUCK ASS Wells is starting tonight.

Hopefully for the last time. :#

Actually, he's not. TLR just announced changes to the rotation within the past half-hour.

Brad Thompson tonight, Wellemeyer tomorrow (should be interesting) and Wells bumped to Sunday v. Phillies.

And the Cards just signed former Brewer/Blue Jay Tomo Ohka to a minor league deal today.....

Codered
06-19-2007, 04:21 PM
WOOT! Only guy worse then Wells is, Albie Wellemeyer!

tk13
06-19-2007, 04:24 PM
Haha, awesome. I'm going to tomorrow night's game. I hope we knock Wellemeyer into next month.

KcMizzou
06-19-2007, 04:24 PM
BTW, were I a sports betting kind of guy, I'd put serious money on the Royals tonight. Kip GOD I SUCK ASS Wells is starting tonight.

Hopefully for the last time. :#Looks like KC's going with Elarton, who's ERA is just under 9.

Sounds like we could see a lot of offense.

Sure-Oz
06-19-2007, 04:27 PM
what's more funny is Royals have trouble drawing any attendence after the all-star break when they are 15 out.

Yet the Cards still draw 30-45k every game.
Think cards fans would be there 15 games out? they did a great job supporting their team last night, esp staying in the 9th inning, i thought this was the WS champs?

'Hamas' Jenkins
06-19-2007, 04:36 PM
Think cards fans would be there 15 games out? they did a great job supporting their team last night, esp staying in the 9th inning, i thought this was the WS champs?

ROFL

In the last season that the Cardinals had where they were under .500 they drew half a million more than the Royals ever have.

OnTheWarpath58
06-19-2007, 04:37 PM
Think cards fans would be there 15 games out? they did a great job supporting their team last night, esp staying in the 9th inning, i thought this was the WS champs?

The last 2 times the Cardinals won LESS than 75 games, they drew 3.2M and 2.6M, respectively.

The Royals have never drawn more than 2.5M in their HISTORY.

OnTheWarpath58
06-19-2007, 04:38 PM
ROFL

In the last season that the Cardinals had where they were under .500 they drew half a million more than the Royals ever have.

Actually, a little more than 750K, but who's counting....

Jayhawkerman2001
06-19-2007, 04:47 PM
oh god. We won, no worries. you guys have traditionally been better than us, so there isnt any point for us fans to really come out much anymore. Well lately there has been.

Frazod
06-19-2007, 04:48 PM
Looks like KC's going with Elarton, who's ERA is just under 9.

Sounds like we could see a lot of offense.

I love high scoring games. One of the best games I ever attended was a 14-10 bloodletting between the Cubs and the Mets. The wind was blowing out at Wrigley. Gary Giaetti hit a grand slam, one of several homers hit that day. I can't even remember who won (like I'd give a shit between those two teams), but it was a fun day.

Adept Havelock
06-19-2007, 04:52 PM
, when in reality all they are is a piss poor Chicago wannabe town.


I don't know about NYC, but they sure seem to have an inferiority/wannabe complex when it comes to Chicago.

When I compare the Chi-town nightlife with STL, I can understand why.

Elarton starting? I'll be surprise if he lasts three innings.