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Woodrow Call
06-22-2007, 07:53 PM
http://rotoworld.com/

According to ESPN.com's Buster Olney, the Royals have acquired Milton Bradley from the A's for Leo Nunez.

Nunez is a nice relief prospect, but he's quickly running out of options after the previous regime rushed him to the majors and GM Dayton Moore didn't seem especially high on him anyway. Bradley figures to take over as the regular left fielder, leaving less playing time for Joey Gathright, especially once Mike Sweeney comes back. Emil Brown also loses out here and should be on his way out of Kansas City.

Woodrow Call
06-22-2007, 07:55 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2913711

The Oakland Athletics traded outfielder Milton Bradley to the Kansas City Royals for pitcher Leo Nunez, ESPN The Magazine's Buster Olney reports. The Royals will pay Bradley's entire salary as he is owed $2.3 million for the remainder of the season.

Bradley was designated for assignment Thursday, as Oakland cut ties with a player who was expected to play an important role on the team this season.

Bradley's designation was made to avoid a logjam in the outfield with the emergence of rookie Travis Buck and the return of other players from injuries.

Nick Swisher, Mark Kotsay, Jack Cust, Shannon Stewart and Buck are all competing for playing time in the outfield, and Chris Snelling and Bobby Kielty are expected to come off the disabled list soon.

"We ultimately were going to have a problem with all of our outfielders at some point," general manager Billy Beane said on a conference call Thursday. "Nobody was going to ultimately be happy. This is really as much as anything proactive instead of reactive to something that certainly was going to be there."

Bradley had been on the disabled list three times this year and was frustrated that the team waited two extra days to activate him this week because of uncertainty about third baseman Eric Chavez's health.

Asked Tuesday how he was feeling, Bradley curtly responded, "I'm healthy and on the bench." Bradley was activated from the DL the following day and went 0-for-3 with a walk.

The A's had 10 days to trade or release Bradley. Because he has more than three years of major-league service time, Bradley could have refused an assignment to the minor leagues.

"It's an unfortunate situation," said Bradley's agent, Sam Levinson. "Milton is healthy and looking forward to helping some club win many games this season."

In another move Thursday, the A's activated right-hander Rich Harden from the 15-day disabled list and optioned right-hander Shane Komine to Triple-A Sacramento.

Harden, who has been out since April 16 with a strained right shoulder, will initially pitch out of the bullpen as he tries to build up strength to eventually return to the rotation.

Bradley, who agreed to a one-year, $4 million deal with Oakland in the offseason, was first shelved from April 23 to May 10 with a strained left hamstring. He went on the DL a second time May 15-29 when the hamstring flared up again, before being sidelined a third time June 3 with a calf injury.

His missed 51 games in all with the injuries and has had five stints on the disabled list in two seasons with Oakland. He was hitting .292 with two homers and seven RBIs in 65 at-bats this season.

The A's were counting on much more out of Bradley, especially since he had a strong postseason to cap his first year in Oakland. He hit .276 with 14 homers in 52 RBIs in 96 regular-season games before hitting three homers and driving in seven runs in seven postseason contests.

But Bradley has always been known as much for his volatile behavior as his baseball skills. In 2005, he accused Dodgers teammate Jeff Kent of a lack of leadership and an inability to deal with black players.

Bradley was also suspended for the final five games of the 2004 season when he slammed a plastic bottle at the feet of a fan in the box seats in the right field corner at Dodger Stadium after someone threw it on the field. Nobody was injured.

Bradley had two run-ins with police during traffic stops in Ohio, one that landed him a three-day stay in jail and another that nearly sent him back for a second visit. When he was with the Dodgers, police responded three times to Bradley's home on domestic violence calls, but he wasn't arrested or charged.

Oakland recalled infielder Kevin Melillo from Sacramento to take Bradley's place on the roster. Melillo was hitting .267 with seven homers and 40 RBIs for the River Cats.

Thig Lyfe
06-22-2007, 07:56 PM
Milton Bradley, eh?

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Sure-Oz
06-22-2007, 07:56 PM
Isn't this guy an asshole

88TG88
06-22-2007, 07:57 PM
Be prepared for accusations of racism and domestic abuse. Thats all we got when he was with the Dodgers.

HolmeZz
06-22-2007, 07:57 PM
I don't see why Kansas City was even interested, unless they plan on signing him long term. He's a FA after this year.

Woodrow Call
06-22-2007, 07:58 PM
Isn't this guy an asshole

Pretty much.

Might be a good buy-low sell high guy at the deadline or maybe Moore has a deal for Brown or even DeJesus in place.

HolmeZz
06-22-2007, 07:59 PM
Maybe Bradley dinged Beane's car so he decided to exile him to Kansas City.

Sure-Oz
06-22-2007, 08:00 PM
Pretty much.

Might be a good buy-low sell high guy at the deadline or maybe Moore has a deal for Brown or even DeJesus in place.
There has to be something in the works, i do not see Bradley staying here unless someone is dealt. Lets hope he puts up #'s and is tradable as well. We gave up another pitcher for an OF'er though.

Mr. Laz
06-22-2007, 08:00 PM
i wasn't aware that we had room for another outfielder?

RJ
06-22-2007, 08:05 PM
Isn't this guy an asshole



Oh, yeah.

Don't know why the Royals would sign this type of player. They're not going anywhere so at this point he can only do harm. He has some talent but he won't be doing anything to win over the fans. I'd bet he's playing elsewhere by next April.

Mecca
06-22-2007, 08:06 PM
This guy can play........if they resign him and all that he's better than any of our current OF's.

tk13
06-22-2007, 08:09 PM
I think this is a great move. When I saw him cut I figured he might be worth a shot, but I'd heard the Yankees were very interested. Buster Olney mentioned a couple teams interested in him, then added the Royals as an afterthought. I'm surprised we went for it. Dayton is freaking aggressive, that's for sure.

Only problem is we need to find a way to ditch some of these outfielders. But Bradley can hit, and we can put him out there everyday and not worry about platooning everyone.

Woodrow Call
06-22-2007, 08:09 PM
This guy can play........if they resign him and all that he's better than any of our current OF's.

Yep. Good power, good speed, high average.

L.A. Chieffan
06-22-2007, 08:11 PM
Anther Dodger reject. Keep him away from sharp objects.

Sure-Oz
06-22-2007, 08:11 PM
Yep. Good power, good speed, high average.
And a fantasy sleeper. :p

Woodrow Call
06-22-2007, 08:11 PM
And a fantasy sleeper. :p
:)

Mr. Laz
06-22-2007, 08:12 PM
i wonder if this will just give us more room to trade come the all-star break?

KevB
06-22-2007, 08:15 PM
Bottom line, he's immediately one of our three best outfielders. I agree that this Royals team isn't winning any pennants this season, but if he's not blocking a young player, why not try to win some frickin' games? I don't think Nunez ever amounts to anything, so I'm happy with this trade. Once again, with the Thomson and Bradley acquisitions, Dayton is making the statement that status quo isn't going to fly anymore. This organization is going to make moves to better the team.

Sure-Oz
06-22-2007, 08:15 PM
I think this is a great move. When I saw him cut I figured he might be worth a shot, but I'd heard the Yankees were very interested. Buster Olney mentioned a couple teams interested in him, then added the Royals as an afterthought. I'm surprised we went for it. Dayton is freaking aggressive, that's for sure.

Only problem is we need to find a way to ditch some of these outfielders. But Bradley can hit, and we can put him out there everyday and not worry about platooning everyone.
I'll trust your judgement considering you are probably the baseball guru around the board amongst a few others here.

Infidel Goat
06-22-2007, 08:15 PM
And wouldn't we get a decent pick in next year's draft if he walks away at the end of the season?

KevB
06-22-2007, 08:17 PM
i wonder if this will just give us more room to trade come the all-star break?

You have to think that Brown and/or Sanders are done. Costa back to the minors, Gathright as your 4th/5th OF.

Sure-Oz
06-22-2007, 08:18 PM
You have to think that Brown and/or Sanders are done. Costa back to the minors, Gathright as your 4th/5th OF.
Sanders gets cut?

Mr. Laz
06-22-2007, 08:19 PM
Bottom line, he's immediately one of our three best outfielders. I agree that this Royals team isn't winning any pennants this season, but if he's not blocking a young player, why not try to win some frickin' games? I don't think Nunez ever amounts to anything, so I'm happy with this trade. Once again, with the Thomson and Bradley acquisitions, Dayton is making the statement that status quo isn't going to fly anymore. This organization is going to make moves to better the team.
so emil brown and gathright are done .... shane costa

reggie sanders is about to come back too


bradley,Dejesus and Teahen and backups

Mr. Laz
06-22-2007, 08:20 PM
Sanders gets cut?
so they are done with trying to trade sanders for anything then?

i thought he was playing pretty good before he got hurt.

Mecca
06-22-2007, 08:21 PM
Sanders and Brown are basically done with this team.....Costa blows he shouldn't be on a major league roster.....

Gathright should be a 4th OF just because he can play all 3 spots and has alot of speed which can be valuable.

Sure-Oz
06-22-2007, 08:21 PM
so they are done with trying to trade sanders for anything then?

i thought he was playing pretty good before he got hurt.
It's like trading trent green but no team is interested, yeah he was solid in 47 ab's batting .367 with 2 hr and 8 rbi's but that won't get crap for him, we'll be lucky for a player to be never heard of later.

Mr. Laz
06-22-2007, 08:24 PM
It's like trading trent green but no team is interested, yeah he was solid in 47 ab's batting .367 with 2 hr and 8 rbi's but that won't get crap for him, we'll be lucky for a player to be never heard of later.
everyone said we'd getting nothing for Green either


i don't like just cutting a guy that could get us a prospect since this year we aren't winning nothing.

Woodrow Call
06-22-2007, 08:25 PM
Sanders and Brown are basically done with this team.....Costa blows he shouldn't be on a major league roster.....

Gathright should be a 4th OF just because he can play all 3 spots and has alot of speed which can be valuable.

Pretty much how I see it as well.

RJ
06-22-2007, 08:27 PM
You have to think that Brown and/or Sanders are done. Costa back to the minors, Gathright as your 4th/5th OF.


That's my biggest problem with it. Gathright might be a real value long term as a leadoff man but they'll never know as long as he's on the bench. Why not send him back to Omaha if they're not going to play him? Hopefully they have a trade partner for Brown.

Seriously, this will be Bradley's fourth team in about as many years, right? There's a problem there and I see no reason why his time with the Royals will be different. I'd rather see more PT for Gatright and Butler, maybe even Mitch Maier. Again, I doubt Bradley will be around long but while he's there he'll keep others from getting AB's and probably do something to piss off the fans.

Sure-Oz
06-22-2007, 08:27 PM
everyone said we'd getting nothing for Green either


i don't like just cutting a guy that could get us a prospect since this year we aren't winning nothing.
I am sure we will do our best to trade him for something before the deadline, i just do not see that happening. He hasn't played much this year and is old as hell. Trent atleast had the dolphins interested, i guess if ARZ has someone from back when they won the WS or STL needs an OF'er that could be an option. I just don't expect much if anything.

KevB
06-22-2007, 08:28 PM
I don't think we cut Brown or Sanders outright. We'll get something for them. We'll probably have to pay some of Sanders salary, but he's a sunk cost at this point anyway. Brown could conceivably stay as 4th OF/DH depending on Sweeney's health and the front office's plan for Butler.

Mecca
06-22-2007, 08:30 PM
That's my biggest problem with it. Gathright might be a real value long term as a leadoff man but they'll never know as long as he's on the bench. Why not send him back to Omaha if they're not going to play him? Hopefully they have a trade partner for Brown.

Seriously, this will be Bradley's fourth team in about as many years, right? There's a problem there and I see no reason why his time with the Royals will be different. I'd rather see more PT for Gatright and Butler, maybe even Mitch Maier. Again, I doubt Bradley will be around long but while he's there he'll keep others from getting AB's and probably do something to piss off the fans.

Billy Butler can not play in the OF in the major leagues.........Joey Gathright is what he is....he's a backup..if you want him to start then you have to ditch DeJesus because you can't have 2 guys starting in the OF that hit less than 10 Hr's.

Mr. Laz
06-22-2007, 08:31 PM
i just hope Moore has a plan


cuz it's seemed a little cluster fookish lately


we could play Bradley and then move Brown to DH ..... but then what about Butler? Just send him back down after not playing much(again)

tk13
06-22-2007, 08:32 PM
I think Gathright and/or Butler could be in AAA getting AB's. I'm not ready to give up on Gathright either. I think he could at least one day be a 4th OF type. And I like Emil Brown, but right now he's only got 2 homers. That isn't gonna cut it, not for our cleanup hitter. He's hitting better but he needs to find that 15-20 HR power he had before.

Sure-Oz
06-22-2007, 08:32 PM
i just hope Moore has a plan


cuz it's seemed a little cluster fookish lately


we could play Bradley and then move Brown to DH ..... but then what about Butler? Just send him back down after not playing much(again)
I'd rather see Butler at DH but brown needs to play for value, kind've a rock and a hard place. Just need to quit juggling butler around and bring him up for good when they do.

KevB
06-22-2007, 08:33 PM
That's my biggest problem with it. Gathright might be a real value long term as a leadoff man but they'll never know as long as he's on the bench. Why not send him back to Omaha if they're not going to play him? Hopefully they have a trade partner for Brown.

Seriously, this will be Bradley's fourth team in about as many years, right? There's a problem there and I see no reason why his time with the Royals will be different. I'd rather see more PT for Gatright and Butler, maybe even Mitch Maier. Again, I doubt Bradley will be around long but while he's there he'll keep others from getting AB's and probably do something to piss off the fans.

I think the Royals know what they have in Gathright. Mediocre OBP, possibly league low Slugging, speed, and average defense. He's a prototypical 4th outfielder. We can agree to disagree on him I suppose. Bradley isn't taking plate appearances from Butler....he's a DH --- maybe a first baseman next season. Maier could be a guy you look at....but again, Moore is trying to put the best team on the field to begin to shift the losing spirit that haunts this franchise. Bradley probably isn't the long term answer, but he's in a contract year, so at least you have to figure he'll play hard for the remainder of the season.

KevB
06-22-2007, 08:34 PM
I think Gathright and/or Butler could be in AAA getting AB's. I'm not ready to give up on Gathright either. I think he could at least one day be a 4th OF type. And I like Emil Brown, but right now he's only got 2 homers. That isn't gonna cut it, not for our cleanup hitter. He's hitting better but he needs to find that 15-20 HR power he had before.

And even 15-20 HR power from a 32 year old corner OF with poor defense is no great shakes (as I know you recognize).

tk13
06-22-2007, 08:37 PM
And even 15-20 HR power from a 32 year old corner OF with poor defense is no great shakes (as I know you recognize).
Yeah, we should try to do better, but he's probably been the best power hitting OF we had, which isn't saying much. I'd probably rather see Brown as a 4th OF over Costa... Brown always strikes me as one of those guys who may not be great, but he could be an OF for a team like the Cardinals and LaRussa would throw him out there against the right matchups and he'd be really productive.

RJ
06-22-2007, 08:55 PM
Billy Butler can not play in the OF in the major leagues.........Joey Gathright is what he is....he's a backup..if you want him to start then you have to ditch DeJesus because you can't have 2 guys starting in the OF that hit less than 10 Hr's.



If manny Ramirez can be a major league outfielder so can Butler. Well, at least I think he can. Surely there have been worse gloves in left field.

Maybe you're right about Gathright but it's not been many years since he was one of the hottest prospects in baseball. If the guy learns how to get on base he could really do some damage on the base paths. I don't see any reason for the Royals to not give him that chance. What do they have to lose?

Good point about him and DeJesus in the same OF but I think DeJesus right now is about as good as he's gonna get......decent average and OBP but not much else to offer. I'd like to see them chase the potential in Gathright.

Coach
06-22-2007, 09:04 PM
Great. Another Juan Gone.

Mecca
06-22-2007, 09:05 PM
Butler is actually worse than Ramirez is.....and even if Butler pans out to potential I don't think he projects to be what Ramirez has been....

Pitt Gorilla
06-22-2007, 09:05 PM
I've liked just about all of Dayton's moves, but I don't get this one. Nunez has crazy arm motion, but he also has great stuff. It could be that he doesn't know how to pitch and is often injured, but I don't see how Bradley is the answer. Big question mark on this one, unless another trade is brewing.

Mecca
06-22-2007, 09:05 PM
Great. Another Juan Gone.

Uh what....

Sure-Oz
06-22-2007, 09:06 PM
I've liked just about all of Dayton's moves, but I don't get this one. Nunez has crazy arm motion, but he also has great stuff. It could be that he doesn't know how to pitch and is often injured, but I don't see how Bradley is the answer. Big question mark on this one, unless another trade is brewing.
We should trade for Elijah Dukes as well.

Mr. Laz
06-22-2007, 09:07 PM
read something in the paper the other day about how Dejesus has lost range lately.

i wonder if he could be traded ..... he would probably garner more attention that the other guys.

:shrug:

Coach
06-22-2007, 09:08 PM
Uh what....

Unless I'm mistaken for a different player, didn't Bradley went to the DL 3 times this year?

Deberg_1990
06-22-2007, 09:08 PM
Yep, this one puts us over the top....

God, what a sad sack this franchise has become....

Pitt Gorilla
06-22-2007, 09:09 PM
Yep, this one puts us over the top....

God, what a sad sack this franchise has become....I'd let things play out before coming to too many conclusions.

JBucc
06-22-2007, 09:19 PM
Looks like we're going for a Monopoly of outfielders. I just hope we can Connect Four decent bats in the lineup now and won't have to be playing Guess Who all the time. Now if our manager just had a good Stratego in place......It may not work out but hey, that's The Game of Life.

Jayhawkerman2001
06-22-2007, 09:20 PM
bradley isnt all that bad really. if plays to his potential

Coach
06-22-2007, 09:23 PM
bradley isnt all that bad really. if plays to his potential

That's the keyword "IF".

Two DL stints because of a hamstring issue, and one because of a calf issue.

I wouldn't bother with him. The chances that he will remain healthy are low, and when Buddy doesn't play him everyday, he will be upset.

VonneMarie
06-22-2007, 09:24 PM
OMFG!!! WTF were they thinking? Holy ****ing shit... I need a ****ing drink. Why am I a fan of this ****ing team? ****!!!! What the ****?

****!

Jayhawkerman2001
06-22-2007, 09:26 PM
OMFG!!! WTF were they thinking? Holy ****ing shit... I need a ****ing drink. Why am I a fan of this ****ing team? ****!!!! What the ****?

****!

yes my dear, you do need yourself a drink.

VonneMarie
06-22-2007, 09:27 PM
I don't like this. I don't like it one bit. That fool is a cancer. :mad:

Coach
06-22-2007, 09:29 PM
I don't like this. I don't like it one bit. That fool is a cancer. :mad:

As I stated on my previous post. Not to mention of his lame-assed excuse of a injuries. I believe one his DL stints was because of some shananigans that did not happen during an actual game.

Mecca
06-22-2007, 09:32 PM
I enjoy how people hate the move despite him being better than anyone that plays OF for the Royals currently.

VonneMarie
06-22-2007, 09:33 PM
As I stated on my previous post. Not to mention of his lame-assed excuse of a injuries. I believe one his DL stints was because of some shananigans that did not happen during an actual game.
Mary Mother of God... the Royals will learn.

Sure-Oz
06-22-2007, 09:39 PM
OMFG!!! WTF were they thinking? Holy ****ing shit... I need a ****ing drink. Why am I a fan of this ****ing team? ****!!!! What the ****?

****!
tweeked out much

Coach
06-22-2007, 09:39 PM
I enjoy how people hate the move despite him being better than anyone that plays OF for the Royals currently.

You don't get it, do you? The guy cannot stay healthy, for the life of him.

Bradley has been on the DL 3 different times this season and has only played 7 games in between stints (4 games after his first DL stint then went back on the DL for the second time, then came back and played 3 more before getting put on the DL for the third time, and now has come back and played 1 game).

Two DL stints because of a hamstring issue, and one because of a calf issue.

I believe one his DL stints was because of some shananigans that did not happen during an actual game.

I wouldn't bother with him. The chances that he will remain healthy are low, and when Buddy doesn't play him everyday, he'll blow a gasket. With that said, he is hurt more often than he's not. Why waste a roster spot for a guy who can't stay healthy?

Boy, he's fallen far since his days in Cleveland.

Mecca
06-22-2007, 09:44 PM
He was born in 78.....you'd think he was an old man falling apart the way people are acting....

When you are the Royals and a player of his talent can be had for very little you take the risk, the Royals need players in general. When you are in this spot beggers can't be choosers.....it'd be nice if the Royals could just go sign proven guys who are great but hey the organization doesn't work that way seeing as they aren't paying that kinda money...

In the Royals spot Milton Bradley is well worth the risk......people bitch they don't like what the Royals are doing they make a move for a guy who's actually better and they bitch about that too....

BigRock
06-22-2007, 10:06 PM
The Star says the deal is off due to Bradley having an oblique injury.

Coach
06-22-2007, 10:07 PM
The Star says the deal is off due to Bradley having an oblique injury.

For real?

If so, that doesn't surprise me.

Pitt Gorilla
06-22-2007, 10:08 PM
The Star says the deal is off due to Bradley having an oblique injury.I'll take it. I just hope it doesn't screw up a future deal that Dayton was planning.

Woodrow Call
06-22-2007, 10:09 PM
The Star says the deal is off due to Bradley having an oblique injury.

Dang. I was actually excited about this.

Mecca
06-22-2007, 10:10 PM
Lovely.......

I like how the Twins and Brewers can be good but the Royals are just forever shitty.

Fruit Ninja
06-22-2007, 10:10 PM
YOu all think LJ is bad, wait til you get a hold of this guy. He was a disaster when he was with my Dodgers. lol THis dude has anger problems big time

Fruit Ninja
06-22-2007, 10:12 PM
I enjoy how people hate the move despite him being better than anyone that plays OF for the Royals currently.
i dont hate him, but i seen what he can do in a game. He's got problems.

Coach
06-22-2007, 10:12 PM
YOu all think LJ is bad, wait til you get a hold of this guy. He was a disaster when he was with my Dodgers. lol THis dude has anger problems big time

Which I been trying to explain my old dear friend Mecca here, along with his injuries.

I don't want this Bradley anywhere near the Royals. Come on Dayton Moore, I expected you better than this.

ExtremeChief
06-22-2007, 10:12 PM
The Star says the deal is off due to Bradley having an oblique injury.

http://kansascity.royals.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20070622&content_id=2043699&vkey=news_kc&fext=.jsp&c_id=kc

MILWAUKEE -- Outfielder Milton Bradley was traded to the Royals -- almost. The deal was cancelled before it actually happened.
The Royals, on Friday, had agreed to a trade with the Oakland A's, sending them pitcher Leo Nunez in exchange for Bradley.

Then, according to a Royals spokesman, the A's learned that Bradley had suffered an oblique injury in his last game for them and the trade was called off.

"Obviously we tried to make the deal, but before the final phase was completed, there was a complication with the medical part and we had to pull out of it," Royals general manager Dayton Moore said.

The A's apparently did not know of the injury when they designated Bradley for assignment on Thursday.

"The A's were not at fault," Moore said.

Bradley, often injured this season, played just 19 games for the A's. He batted .292 (19-for-65) with two home runs and seven RBIs.

Although Bradley has been something of a controversial figure over the years, he had a good working relationship with Royals manager Buddy Bell when both men were in the Cleveland organization, Moore said.

Nunez began the season on the disabled list with a broken right wrist suffered in Spring Training. He's returned to go 1-0 with a 0.87 ERA in six games (20 2/3 innings) for Double-A Wichita.

Although it's unusual to acknowledge a trade that wasn't made, the Royals decided to go public when word of the deal leaked out.

Mecca
06-22-2007, 10:13 PM
Oh yes I'm heavily worried about team chemistry of the last place team.......

The Royals need talent above all else right now....Remember when the Brewers were as bad as the Royals? Now they're in first and ass raping them...

Coach
06-22-2007, 10:20 PM
Oh yes I'm heavily worried about team chemistry of the last place team.......

The Royals need talent above all else right now....Remember when the Brewers were as bad as the Royals? Now they're in first and ass raping them...

Excuse me? I know we have TALENT on this team. TALENT isn't the issue. The issue is the COACHING.

If you have a manager named Buddy "Dumb F**k" Bell, who can't fill out a goddamned lineup on a consistent basis? Or just keeps playing DeJesus in centerfield where it's obvious that DeJesus shouldn't really be playing CF?

No wait, are you telling me platooning Costa at DH and batting him in the 4th or 5th slot is somehow the fault of our talent level and not Buddy "Dumb F**k" Bell?

Why not Brown or German instead? Or fine put in Costa but why bat him 4th?

I'm sorry, and don't take this personally or anything, but your an idiot.

Mecca
06-22-2007, 10:25 PM
I'm sorry dude....call me an idiot all you want, but the difference in managers is 10-15 games I've heard Jayson Stark and numerous people discuss this multiple times. I'm sure it's some shocker that the best managers have the best players......this isn't football where you can gameplan this is baseball.....a manager doesn't mean that much.

I do not buy that this team has "talent" comparable to other most other teams.....unless you want to compare to like Baltimore or Washington......start looking at other teams and tell me where we are comparable.....Hell even Tampa Bay has more talent than we do.....

Woodrow Call
06-22-2007, 10:28 PM
Excuse me? I know we have TALENT on this team. TALENT isn't the issue. The issue is the COACHING.

If you have a manager named Buddy "Dumb F**k" Bell, who can't fill out a goddamned lineup on a consistent basis? Or just keeps playing DeJesus in centerfield where it's obvious that DeJesus shouldn't really be playing CF?

No wait, are you telling me platooning Costa at DH and batting him in the 4th or 5th slot is somehow the fault of our talent level and not Buddy "Dumb F**k" Bell?

Why not Brown or German instead? Or fine put in Costa but why bat him 4th?

I'm sorry, and don't take this personally or anything, but your an idiot.

The fact that we are discussing the likes of Brown, German, and Costa is exactly why talent is an issue. Bell is a huge problem but so is LF, 2B, 1B, DH and 3/5 of the rotation.

Mecca
06-22-2007, 10:29 PM
The fact that we are discussing the likes of Brown, German, and Costa is exactly why talent is an issue. Bell is a huge problem but so is LF, 2B, 1B, DH and 3/5 of the rotation.

Bell is a shitty manager no doubt but he isn't the only reason this team sucks.....like I said a manager is only so much...

I think the entire OF is a problem.......most of the pitching.....half the infield.....

Sure-Oz
06-22-2007, 10:55 PM
Well so much for that deal

Ultra Peanut
06-22-2007, 10:59 PM
Oh yes I'm heavily worried about team chemistry of the last place team.......

The Royals need talent above all else right now....Remember when the Brewers were as bad as the Royals? Now they're in first and ass raping them...Sure, they need talent. They're the ****ing Royals. But going after an extremely volatile, oft-injured talent on a team that's going to be terrible with or without him seems like a bad idea. From 2002-2006 he played in 63% of available games; shit, that's worse than Rondell White, who is a busted old man.

He's a slightly above average player with a ton of baggage. I would pass, and pass, and pass some more.

Mecca
06-22-2007, 11:02 PM
I'm still waiting for someone to show me where all this Royals talent is that compares to other teams....

Ultra Peanut
06-22-2007, 11:04 PM
Jesus, I just spent three minutes thinking about the Royals. Someone kill me.

VonneMarie
06-22-2007, 11:06 PM
The Star says the deal is off due to Bradley having an oblique injury.
Thank God.

Jayhawkerman2001
06-22-2007, 11:45 PM
yah, it says that on the royals website.

alanm
06-23-2007, 12:44 AM
I enjoy how people hate the move despite him being better than anyone that plays OF for the Royals currently.
It's mostly because Bradley is a douche bag. Guy's a good ball player. But he's a douche bag.

Miles
06-23-2007, 01:06 AM
I think this is a great move. When I saw him cut I figured he might be worth a shot, but I'd heard the Yankees were very interested. Buster Olney mentioned a couple teams interested in him, then added the Royals as an afterthought. I'm surprised we went for it. Dayton is freaking aggressive, that's for sure.

Only problem is we need to find a way to ditch some of these outfielders. But Bradley can hit, and we can put him out there everyday and not worry about platooning everyone.

I really like this move for you guys as well. Sure he has a load of recent injury issues but still produces well when healthy and is a young enough. Maybe the Oakland clubhouse is tight lipped about character issues but Bradly's total ass makeup has not made headlines for a while.

The best use for him may be to give him a chance to play and showcase him for a deadline trade. Scoring a prospect for him would be huge but you also have to wonder if there is something else going on with him for Beane not to be thinking along the same lines.

Miles
06-23-2007, 01:07 AM
Guess I should have read the 2nd page of this thread...

beavis
06-23-2007, 02:28 AM
Interesting move either way... I hope there is something else working, we have way too many outfielders without this guy.

beavis
06-23-2007, 02:37 AM
Heh, note to self, finish reading the thread before you post...

Miles
06-23-2007, 02:39 AM
Heh, note to self, finish reading the thread before you post...

Would have helped me too.

chiefqueen
06-23-2007, 08:02 AM
Looks like we're going for a Monopoly of outfielders. I just hope we can Connect Four decent bats in the lineup now and won't have to be playing Guess Who all the time. Now if our manager just had a good Stratego in place......It may not work out but hey, that's The Game of Life and you'll be Sorry!

fyp

Sure-Oz
06-23-2007, 08:52 AM
Makes me wonder if they'll attempt to get him when he's healthy but some things are def. in the works.