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Taco John
06-28-2007, 02:27 PM
Senate Blocks Immigration Bill

Jun 28 01:09 PM US/Eastern
By CHARLES BABINGTON
Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) - The Senate drove a stake Thursday through President Bush's plan to legalize millions of unlawful immigrants, likely postponing major action on immigration until after the 2008 elections.
After the stinging political setback, Bush sounded resigned to defeat.

"Legal immigration is one of the top concerns of the American people, and Congress' failure to act on it is a disappointment," he said after an appearance in Newport, R.I. "A lot of us worked hard to see if we couldn't find common ground. It didn't work."

The bill's Senate supporters fell 14 votes short of the 60 needed to limit debate and clear the way for final passage of the legislation, which critics assailed as offering amnesty to illegal immigrants. The vote was 46 to 53 in favor of limiting the debate.

Some senators in both parties said the issue is so volatile that Congress is unlikely to revisit it this fall or next year, when the presidential election will increasingly dominate American politics. t

Bush appeared glum as he spoke. His negotiators had expressed optimism the vote would go their way—or, at least be closer.

"Congress really needs to prove to the American people that it can come together on hard issues," Bush said. He turned attention to other his other goals in Congress this year, including energy, health care and balanced-budget initiatives.

Last year a similar immigration effort collapsed in Congress, and the House has not bothered with an immigration bill this year, awaiting Senate action.

The vote was a defeat for a bipartisan group of lawmakers who advocated the bill as an imperfect but necessary fix of current immigration practices in which many illegal immigrants use forged documents or lapsed visas to live and work in the United States.

It was a victory for Republican conservatives who strongly criticized the bill's provisions that would have established pathways to lawful status for many of the estimated 12 million illegal immigrants. They were aided by talk radio and TV hosts who repeatedly attacked the bill and urged listeners to flood Congress with calls, faxes and e-mails.

Voting to allow the bill to proceed by ending debate were 33 Democrats, 12 Republicans and independent Joe Lieberman, Conn. Voting to block the bill by not limiting debate were 37 Republicans, 15 Democrats and independent Bernard Sanders, Vt. Tim Johnson, D-S.D., did not vote.

The bill would have toughened border security and instituted a new system for weeding out illegal immigrants from workplaces. It would have created a new guest worker program and allowed millions of illegal immigrants to obtain legal status if they briefly returned home.

Bush, making a last-ditch bid to salvage the bill, called senators early Thursday morning to urge their support. Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff and Commerce Secretary Carlos Gutierrez approached senators as they entered and left the chamber shortly before the vote.

But conservatives from Bush's own party led the opposition. They repeatedly said the government must secure the borders before allowing millions of illegal aliens a path to legal status.

Sen. Elizabeth H. Dole, R-N.C., said many Americans "don't have confidence" that borders, especially with Mexico, will be significantly tightened. "It's not just promises but proof that the American people want," Dole said.

But the bill's backers said border security and accommodations to illegal immigrants must go hand in hand.

"Year after year, we've had the broken borders," said Sen. Edward Kennedy, D-Mass. "Year after year, we've seen the exploitation of workers."

After the vote, he said: "It is now clear that we are not going to complete our work on immigration reform. That is enormously disappointing for Congress and for the country." Kennedy, a chief proponent of the bill, said, "we will be back. This issue is not going away."

But before the vote, Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., told colleagues the political climate almost surely would not allow a serious reconsideration until 2009 or later. It would be highly unlikely, she said, "in the next few years to fix the existing system ... . We are so close."

From the beginning, the bill's most forceful opponents were southern Republicans. GOP Sens. David Vitter of Louisiana, Jim DeMint of South Carolina and Jeff Sessions of Alabama led the charge, often backed by Texan John Cornyn.

Two southern Republicans—Lindsey Graham, S.C., and Mel Martinez, Fla., who was born in Cuba—supported it.

Also crucial to the bill's demise was opposition from three Democrats recently elected from GOP-leaning states: Jon Tester of Montana, Claire McCaskill of Missouri and Jim Webb of Virginia.

All the Democratic presidential candidates in the Senate voted to end debate and advance the bill. Among the Republican candidates, only Sen. John McCain of Arizona voted to keep the measure alive. Sen. Sam Brownback, R-Kan., at first voted with McCain, but switched his vote when it was clear the bid to end debate would fail.

Sessions said on the Senate floor after the vote that Americans "are not mean-spirited, but they are concerned about a lawful system of immigration."

DeMint told reporters, "I think the only victory here is for the American people and, symbolically, a government of the people and for the people. The people responded to this issue in a very emotional and just a very engaged way, which changed the minds of many people here in the Senate."

DeMint said he hoped "we'll proceed with the security and enforcement aspects of this bill, and that will pave the way of how we solve some of the other problems."

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The bill is S 1639.



http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8Q1UNF00&show_article=1

Taco John
06-28-2007, 02:29 PM
Among the Republican candidates, only Sen. John McCain of Arizona voted to keep the measure alive. Sen. Sam Brownback, R-Kan., at first voted with McCain, but switched his vote when it was clear the bid to end debate would fail.



Brownback has absolutely no spine.

Cochise
06-28-2007, 02:35 PM
Yea - 12 Republicans, 34 Democrats
Nay - 15 Democrats, 37 Republicans, 1 Ind.



hb

KC Dan
06-28-2007, 02:38 PM
"Year after year, we've had the broken borders," said Sen. Edward Kennedy, D-Mass. "Year after year, we've seen the exploitation of workers."
See Edward does get it, he just doesn't fix it because let's face it - this is entirely political. Fix the borders and enforce current US law first. Then address path to citizenship. There is no logical reason that the two issues must be linked, other than to pander...The majority of citizens understand this and that is why their bill failed and will continue to fail.

dirk digler
06-28-2007, 02:39 PM
Thanks Cochise. I am glad to see both Missouri Senators voted no. I guess they got my message.

:)

Pitt Gorilla
06-28-2007, 02:55 PM
Among the Republican candidates, only Sen. John McCain of Arizona voted to keep the measure alive. Sen. Sam Brownback, R-Kan., at first voted with McCain, but switched his vote when it was clear the bid to end debate would fail.



Brownback has absolutely no spine.Eh, he's from Kansas. I'm glad to see both Harken and Grassley vote against it.

caffeinated_virus
06-28-2007, 04:30 PM
"Year after year, we've had the broken borders," said Sen. Edward Kennedy, D-Mass. "Year after year, we've seen the exploitation of workers."
See Edward does get it, he just doesn't fix it because let's face it - this is entirely political. Fix the borders and enforce current US law first. Then address path to citizenship. There is no logical reason that the two issues must be linked, other than to pander...The majority of citizens understand this and that is why their bill failed and will continue to fail.

Kennedy is a joke. Makes me want to puke everytime I see him.

He could care less about Americans or America. He only cares about padding his pockets with money.

He is our modern day Benedict Arnold!

Taco John
06-28-2007, 04:43 PM
I'm not suprised to see that both Washington senators voted yes. I was suprised to see that Oregon's senators were split. I'm completely floored to see that Idaho's vote was split.

Personally, I'm a little ambivalent about this bill. I would prefer for us to enforce the border laws, to be sure... But it's the displacement of family that bothers me about this and how many innocent kids are caught in the middle of this thing. I think it's easy to be callous to this aspect because their parents might have broken the law. I just worry about what the fallout of that callousness will be.

Taco John
06-28-2007, 04:45 PM
He is our modern day Benedict Arnold!



The new black!

Apparently it's in fasion among extremists on the right to call folks "modern Benedict Arnolds." This is the second time I've seen this tactic in two days.

KC Dan
06-28-2007, 04:47 PM
I'm not suprised to see that both Washington senators voted yes. I was suprised to see that Oregon's senators were split. I'm completely floored to see that Idaho's vote was split.

Personally, I'm a little ambivalent about this bill. I would prefer for us to enforce the border laws, to be sure... But it's the displacement of family that bothers me about this and how many innocent kids are caught in the middle of this thing. I think it's easy to be callous to this aspect because their parents might have broken the law. I just worry about what the fallout of that callousness will be.
Agreed, but can't that be addressed separately? Why do our senators have to lump the issues into one big, out of control,no-one-knows-nothing-about bill?

a1na2
06-28-2007, 04:49 PM
Does this mean that Taco won't be granted amnesty?

When does he get deported back to Denver?

Taco John
06-28-2007, 04:57 PM
Agreed, but can't that be addressed separately? Why do our senators have to lump the issues into one big, out of control,no-one-knows-nothing-about bill?


That's just the way business is done in Washington these days. Just look at the Patriot Act.

KC Dan
06-28-2007, 05:02 PM
That's just the way business is done in Washington these days. Just look at the Patriot Act.
Doesn't make it right nor does it prevent us as citizens to bitch and moan and do everything in our power to shoot monstrosities like this down. These bills (immigration & Patriot Act) are made so huge and unreadable so they can pass quickly without proper investigative due diligence. And to provide a big signing party that can be put in election commercials the next go around. Makes me want to puke.

a1na2
06-28-2007, 05:47 PM
That's just the way business is done in Washington these days. Just look at the Patriot Act.

Or anything sponsored by the liberals.

ChiefaRoo
06-28-2007, 06:20 PM
Among the Republican candidates, only Sen. John McCain of Arizona voted to keep the measure alive. Sen. Sam Brownback, R-Kan., at first voted with McCain, but switched his vote when it was clear the bid to end debate would fail.



Brownback has absolutely no spine.

He's lost my support.

Brock
06-28-2007, 06:23 PM
Does this mean that Taco won't be granted amnesty?

When does he get deported back to Denver?

I hope your next 21 posts are better than your first 21.

ChiefaRoo
06-28-2007, 06:24 PM
I'm glad the bill was defeated. Message to Washington - Build the GD fence and get control of the borders and we'll talk about modifying the immigration policy after you've proven your serious about securing the nation.

a1na2
06-28-2007, 06:31 PM
I hope your next 21 posts are better than your first 21.


This is as good as it gets.

a1na2
06-28-2007, 06:33 PM
I'm glad the bill was defeated. Message to Washington - Build the GD fence and get control of the borders and we'll talk about modifying the immigration policy after you've proven your serious about securing the nation.

WooWoo


What he said!