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Eric
06-30-2007, 08:52 PM
http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/0531/p01s02-usmi.html


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MRAP_%28armored_vehicle%29

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMen9oymDgA&mode=related&search=

Logical
06-30-2007, 09:24 PM
The issue as to why these are not more widely available is an issue of misplaces priorities. Wasting billions on Haliburton but not being able to allocate sufficient funding to obtaining and getting these vehicles to Iraq and Afghanistan.

go bowe
07-02-2007, 09:54 PM
misplaced priorities?

that's putting it very diplomatically...

since it's the ied's that are killing most of our men, it would be handy to have vehicles that can keep them alive...

why weren't those vehicles available 3 or 4 years ago?

Eric
07-02-2007, 09:58 PM
Humvee contractors?

Logical
07-02-2007, 10:24 PM
misplaced priorities?

that's putting it very diplomatically...

since it's the ied's that are killing most of our men, it would be handy to have vehicles that can keep them alive...

why weren't those vehicles available 3 or 4 years ago?In fairness I don't think they were designed 3 years ago. I think they have only been available for a year or two at most.

trndobrd
07-03-2007, 05:40 PM
The article seems fairly clear that it is a procurement and manufacturing issue more than a funding issue. A couple thoughts on these vehicles....

The technology (a "V" shaped hull) has been around for decades on various armored vehicles. The South Africans developed one in the early 70's. The M1117 and Buffalo both feature "V" hull designs.

They do offer additional protection against mines that detonate directly under the vehicle. IEDs are generally detonated 3-5 meters away from the target vehicle, not directly under it so more of the blast is directed at the sides that the bottom.

I don't know if that makes a difference or not (I suspect it does), but the Army has been burned enough times with new equipment to learn to test new equipment thoroughly before fielding it. For instance, it doesn't matter how much blast protection it has on bottom if the sides can't stand up, or if the transmission is prone to failure, or brakes don't always work.

As far as the claim that "no Soldier has ever been killed in one of these vehicles", that is the logical equivalent of changing every Soldier's name to Billy-Bob Goldstein because no one named Billy-Bob Goldstein has been killed in Iraq. Soldiers in M1s have been killed by IEDs. Put enough of any vehicle on the road and someone will get hurt.