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recxjake
07-03-2007, 03:50 PM
Giuliani Campaign Announces Second Quarter Fundraising Numbers Reports $18 Million Cash On Hand for Primary and General Election
The Rudy Giuliani Presidential Committee reported today it has outraised every other Republican campaign and has over $18 million cash on hand. The campaign raised over $17 million in the second quarter, for both the primary and general election, and ended the quarter with zero debt.
The second quarter fundraising totals highlighted the Giuliani campaign’s growing momentum and commitment to discipline and efficiency with campaign dollars.

The campaign both outraised first quarter totals by more than $2 million and doubled the number of individual donors. Contributions have been received from all fifty states, Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands and the District of Columbia.

“We are thrilled by our fundraising this quarter and are running a strong and efficient campaign. We are well positioned to win both the primary and the general elections,” said Giuliani Campaign Manager Michael DuHaime, “and we are serious about being good stewards with the money that has been entrusted to us.”

Deputy Campaign Manager Anne Dunsmore added, “Since joining Team Rudy, I have been increasingly encouraged by the response to Rudy’s message across the country. That strong support translates into an increase in the number of events, donors and dollars which will allow us not only to compete and win the primary, but to win the general election.”


Rudy 15 million COH for Primary, 3 Million for General
Mitt 12 Million COH (9 million in loans)
McCain 2 Million COH
Fred... ?? Doesn't have to report until 3Q is finished.


Republicans are way behind in the money race... my guess is that the money will start to flow in when Hillary becomes the nominee. McCain is being rumored to drop out of the race by the end of the week. Mitt Romney is polling well in Iowa and NH, but he has spent all his money on ads... he has run more ads then all the other candidates combined! Besides Iowa and NH, Mitt is not polling well.

The Iowa Straw Poll is August 11th, Tommy Thompson, Jim Gilmore, Tom Tancredo, Sam Brownback, Duncan Hunter will most likely drop out after this unless they win it.... Romney will, he is the only top tier candidate going... yet it is going to cost up 3 million bucks, and thats all he has if you don't cout his loans!

The Republican race will be down to....

Rudy
Romney
F. Thompson
Mike Huckabee
Ron Paul
Newt Gingrich?

recxjake
07-03-2007, 03:59 PM
I've been seeing more and more polling with McCain out of the race, and about 2/3 of his voters go to Rudy.

Romney reminds of Howard Dean.

The race is truly down to F. Thompson and Rudy Giuliani. I think a Rudy/Fred, Fred/Rudy ticket would be the best bet for Republicans.

If these terror scares keep popping up, it helps Rudy the most, and the Republican party.

I don't see how Democrats can run on higher taxes, pre 9/11 terror protection, and govt run health care. If there is any year that Democrats should win, it is 08..... yet it seems to me they are pissing it down the drain.

HolmeZz
07-03-2007, 04:23 PM
Hillary and Obama each raised more than Rudy, Obama almost twice as much.

recxjake
07-03-2007, 04:31 PM
Hillary and Obama each raised more than Rudy, Obama almost twice as much.

Captain obvious.

It doesn't matter what Republican it is, when Hillary is confirmed the nominee, the $$ will start pouring in.

jAZ
07-03-2007, 04:50 PM
We're #3!

We're #3!

We're #3!

jAZ
07-03-2007, 04:51 PM
And speaking literally, Romney won the money battle at $20M, thanks to his own $6M contribution.

recxjake
07-03-2007, 05:08 PM
And speaking literally, Romney won the money battle at $20M, thanks to his own $6M contribution.

Romney has 9 million in loans.... so he truly has only 3 million COH.

trndobrd
07-03-2007, 05:21 PM
Romney has 9 million in loans.... so he truly has only 3 million COH.

Loans from the candidate to his/her own campaign can be forgiven. It is in the form of a 'loan' so that the candidate can repay himself at a later point if more money comes in from contributions. Loans from the candidate to the campaign can be used for operational purposes.

recxjake
07-03-2007, 06:16 PM
Loans from the candidate to his/her own campaign can be forgiven. It is in the form of a 'loan' so that the candidate can repay himself at a later point if more money comes in from contributions. Loans from the candidate to the campaign can be used for operational purposes.

I agree, but it is deceptive.

Rudy shows that he is the true fiscal conservative in the race. He spends every dollar very wisely.

chiefforlife
07-03-2007, 07:05 PM
Good Job Rudy, 3rd place is still...well...3rd place. That puts him in the outhouse, not the whitehouse.

recxjake
07-03-2007, 07:34 PM
What They Are Saying … About Mayor Giuliani’s Second Quarter Fundraising
Fox News’ Shepard Smith Said Giuliani’s Fundraising “Far Outpaces” GOP Field. Fox News’ Shepard Smith: “We’ve often said that the amount of money you raise can be a good indicator of how things are going. Rudy Giuliani’s campaign just announced that he’s raised more than $17 million in the second quarter for both the primary and general elections, ended the quarter with no debt and $18 million cash on hand. That far outpaces the rest of the Republican candidates.” (Fox News’ “Studio B,” 7/3/07)
CNN’s Bill Schneider: “Now Giuliani is the only one of the top three Republicans whose total went up in the second quarter. He now leads the Republican field in fund-raising …” (CNN’s “The Situation Room,” 7/3/07)

American Spectator’s Philip Klein: “[L]ooks like a solid quarter for Rudy relative to his GOP rivals …” (Philip Klein, American Spectator Blog, “Rudy Raises $15 Mln (Primary), $17 Mln (Total),” www.spectator.org, Accessed: 7/3/07)

Klein: “So, by any monetary measure, Giuliani is now ahead of Romney.” (Philip Klein, American Spectator Blog, “Rudy Raises $15 Mln (Primary), $17 Mln (Total),” www.spectator.org, Accessed: 7/3/07)

Los Angeles Times’ Andrew Malcolm: “Rudy Giuliani's campaign reported … a whopping $18 million-plus in cash on hand now with zero debt.” (Andrew Malcolm, “Go Get $6.5 Million From The ATM, Will You Please?,” Los Angeles Times’ Blog, http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2007/07/go-get-65-milli.html, 7/3/07, Accessed 7/3/07)

Newsday’s Tom Brune: “[Giuliani] has put more money in the bank than he has spent so far on his campaign this year.” (Tom Brune, “Rudy Takes Lead In GOP Fundraising,” Newsday, 7/3/07)

National Review’s Yuval Levin: “[T]he GOP funding figures paint a picture of a strong Giuliani campaign …” (Yuval Levin, “GOP Money,” National Review’s “The Corner” Blog, http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZTJmZDgzZTMwOTI5YmU5NTVlNWE2OTE4MjcyZGM3MmY, 7/3/07, Accessed 7/3/07)

CBN’s David Brody: Giuliani “Continues To Defy The Odds.” “[A]t the end of the day, the story here is Giuliani. He continues to defy the odds. People want to write him off because as a Republican, his views are too liberal. Well, he's been pretty clear and public with his views and so far, financially at least, he's not taking a hit. … [C]learly, there seems to be an appetite for Giuliani out there.” (David Brody, CBN News’ “The Brody File” Blog, http://www.cbn.com/CBNnews/189113.aspx, 7/3/07)

Brody: Giuliani “Plays Well In Certain Evangelical Circles.” “His strength is in the ideological middle and his tough talk on terrorism and reputation as a crime fighting straight talking guy who gets things done plays well in certain Evangelical circles. Not to mention, these Evangelicals think he is the only Republican that can beat Hillary Clinton in the General Election.” (David Brody, CBN News’ “The Brody File” Blog, http://www.cbn.com/CBNnews/189113.aspx, 7/3/07)

Brody: ““It's a long road to The White House but Giuliani is beginning to prove he has staying power.” (David Brody, CBN News’ “The Brody File” Blog, http://www.cbn.com/CBNnews/189113.aspx, 7/3/07)

Bloomberg’s Kristen Johnson: “[R]udy Giuliani beat rivals by raising more than $17 million in the second quarter for his campaign, outpacing his take in the first three months.” (Kristen Johnson, “Giuliani Beats Rivals, Raises More Than $17 Million in Quarter,” http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=a4KZUgLO_kMo&refer=us, 7/3/07, Accessed 7/3/07)

New York Sun’s Ryan Sager: “The numbers are in, and Rudy Giuliani has taken the lead in the money race for 2008 …” (Ryan Sager, “Cash Chase: Rudy Takes The Lead,” New York Sun’s “Latest Politics” Blog, http://www.latestpolitics.com/blog/2007/07/cash-chase-rudy-takes-the-lead.html, 7/3/07, Accessed 7/3/07)

The Associated Press’ Jim Kuhnhenn: “[G]iuliani saw an increase in his fundraising over the first quarter …” (Jim Kuhnhenn, “Giuliani Raises $15 Million, Romney Collects $14 Million In Second Quarter,” The Associated Press, 7/3/07)

New York Observer’s Andrew Rice: “[I]t looks like Rudy Giuliani's going to be the second-quarter fundraising champ on the Republican side. This should cement his position as the frontrunner …” (Andrew Rice, “Rudy’s Out Front,” New York Observer’s “The Politicker” Blog, http://www.observer.com/2007/rudys-out-front, 7/3/07, Accessed 7/3/07)

CBS News’ David Miller: “[Giuliani] … the only one of the top three declared GOP candidates to see his receipts rise from one quarter to the next.” (David Miller, “Pure Horserace: Giuliani Leads The Way,” CBSnews.com, http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/07/03/politics/purehorserace/main3012959, 7/3/07, Accessed 7/3/07)

The Atlantic’s Marc Ambinder: “Only Rudy sustained his fundraising pace.” (Marc Ambinder, “Rudy’s 2nd Quarter: $15M+ For The Primary,” The Atlantic’s Blog, http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2007/07/rudys_2nd_quarter_15m_for_the.php, 7/3/07, Accessed 7/3/07)

The Wall Street Journal’s Amy Schatz: “The Rudy Giuliani Presidential Committee … has outraised every other Republican campaign and has over $18 million cash on hand.” (Amy Schatz, “McCain’s Competitors Report Money Results,” The Wall Street Journal’s “Washington Wire” Blog, http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2007/07/03/mccain%e2%80%99s-competitors-report-money-results/, 7/3/07, Accessed 7/3/07)

The Wall Street Journal’s Amy Schatz: “Not to be outdone, the Giuliani camp reported it received donations ‘from all 50 states, Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands and the District of Columbia.’” (Amy Schatz, “McCain’s Competitors Report Money Results,” The Wall Street Journal’s “Washington Wire” Blog, http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2007/07/03/mccain%e2%80%99s-competitors-report-money-results/, 7/3/07, Accessed 7/3/07)

NY1’s Lewis Dodley: “Rudy Giuliani is tops among the GOP presidential candidates when it comes to raising cash.” (NY1, 7/3/07)

The Politico’s Jonathan Martin: Giuliani’s “thrifty ways left him with $18 million in the bank.” (Jonathan Martin, “GOP Quickie Cash Wrap,” The Politico’s Blog, http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/0707/GOP_quickie_cash_wrap.html, 7/3/07, Accessed 7/3/07)

Martin: Giuliani’s “cash on hand … makes him the ostensible Republican money leader.” (Jonathan Martin, “GOP Quickie Cash Wrap,” The Politico’s Blog, http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/0707/GOP_quickie_cash_wrap.html, 7/3/07, Accessed 7/3/07)

RealClearPolitics Blog’s Tom Bevan: “Giuliani has $18 million cash on hand, which is $6 million more than Mitt Romney and $16 million more than John McCain.” (Tom Bevan, “Rudy Reports Q2 Numbers,” Real Clear Politics Blog, http://time-blog.com/real_clear_politics/2007/07/rudys_reports_q2_numbers.html?xid=rss-rcp, 7/3/07, Accessed 7/3/07)

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chiefforlife
07-03-2007, 07:41 PM
Even the Republicans realize they have no chance at winning the next election. That is why the leading Republican candidate is NO where near the top in fund raising.
I admire your intestinal fortitude there rex but it is a losing cause...

recxjake
07-03-2007, 07:54 PM
Even the Republicans realize they have no chance at winning the next election. That is why the leading Republican candidate is NO where near the top in fund raising.
I admire your intestinal fortitude there rex but it is a losing cause...

The hypothetical race between Clinton and Giuliani for the White House is essentially even among all registered voters interviewed in this June sample -- 49% of registered voters say they would vote for Giuliani; 47% for Clinton. Other recent polls have also shown the 2008 presidential race between these two front-runners to be close when the total voting population is taken into account.

http://www.galluppoll.com/content/default.aspx?ci=28024&VERSION=p




Comparing Dem and Repub money means nothing now..... Once there is a Republican nominee, all the Republican elite will give as much as they can to whoever the nominee is.

recxjake
07-03-2007, 07:55 PM
CNN 06/22 - 06/24 907 RV 48% 49% Clinton +1%
Gallup 06/04 - 06/24 2,039 RV 49% 47% Giuliani +2%
Cook/RT Strategies 06/21 - 06/23 844 RV 44% 45% Clinton +1%
Newsweek 06/20 - 06/21 831 RV 44% 51% Clinton +7%
Rasmussen 06/20 - 06/21 792 LV 46% 45% Giuliani +1%

trndobrd
07-03-2007, 08:12 PM
I agree, but it is deceptive.

Rudy shows that he is the true fiscal conservative in the race. He spends every dollar very wisely.

WTF is that supposed to mean? We're talking about raising money, not spending it. I assume you are working for free, huh?

trndobrd
07-03-2007, 08:16 PM
Even the Republicans realize they have no chance at winning the next election. That is why the leading Republican candidate is NO where near the top in fund raising.
I admire your intestinal fortitude there rex but it is a losing cause...

The fundraising pool is spread out over a larger number of Republican candidates. I don't know what the R vs. D totals look like. If you think a Presidential election is a done deal more than 17 months out, you need to head back to the FDR days.

patteeu
07-04-2007, 08:21 AM
Romney reminds of Howard Dean.

In what way?

Romney must have you Guilliani people scared or something the way you constantly attempt to demonize him.

recxjake
07-04-2007, 09:37 AM
In what way?

Romney must have you Guilliani people scared or something the way you constantly attempt to demonize him.


He tells people what they want to hear.... for instance yesterday he said he supports President Bush stepping in, and taking away the jail sentence.... yet when he was governor of MASS he went by the rule of absolutely no pardons for anyone.


Here's what the Brownback people had to say....

From NBC's Mark Murray and Eric Wexler
The Brownback camp is certainly flexing its muscles via press releases. This afternoon, it issued one body-slamming Romney for flip-flopping on guns. It's entitled: "Mitt Romney's Record on Gun Rights: Political Opportunism, Pandering and Flip-Flopping." Ouch.

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Romney means well, he just doesn't think before he talks I guess! I think people are finally starting to catch on.... His fundrasing dollars are down huge from Q1...

chiefforlife
07-04-2007, 10:05 AM
The fundraising pool is spread out over a larger number of Republican candidates. I don't know what the R vs. D totals look like. If you think a Presidential election is a done deal more than 17 months out, you need to head back to the FDR days.

I realize its early but also believe that GW has torn the party and country apart. I think the voters are ready for a big change, I am registered as a republican but will not be voting for any republican. Most of the people I talk to have the same view. A lot can happen over the next 17 months, most likely is that GW will continue to give the middle finger to the people and sour even more voters on his party, therefor electing a democratic president.

trndobrd
07-04-2007, 10:20 AM
I realize its early but also believe that GW has torn the party and country apart. I think the voters are ready for a big change, I am registered as a republican but will not be voting for any republican. Most of the people I talk to have the same view. A lot can happen over the next 17 months, most likely is that GW will continue to give the middle finger to the people and sour even more voters on his party, therefor electing a democratic president.

If GW was running again, he would not win. He is not. Because of their success last November, the Democrats are now in control of both the House and Senate. Thus far, they seem bound and determined to be part of the problem: more spending, bigger government, higher taxes, more earmarks, less openess, and generally the same crap they railed against in October...just more of it. By the time November 08 rolls around, it will be pretty clear that the Democrats are not "a big change".

Having said all that, Presidential politics is generally less about specific platforms and more about personality and values. A Fred Thompson or other Republican with no particular ties to the Bush administration, could have an advantage over a Democratic Senator with a recent series of questionable votes.

BucEyedPea
07-04-2007, 10:29 AM
I think the people are sufficiently po'd at the Dems for their pork and caving in to the WH. The partisans will say otherwise as in there's nothing they can do...but it's not really true. They're just as much international meddlers as the GOP...what with the calls for Dafur and all. Might as well don the blue helmets of the UN on this one. There is NO reason to believe those in Dafur will greet us as liberators either. It's also a war of words and propaganda as it's a civil war: Black Muslim vs Black Muslims. More troops would like draw more AQ to kill our troops.

I see, blowback coming for the Dems in the Congress with GOP taking it back and a Dem possibly in the WH as every Pub sounds just like Bush endorsing compassionate conservativism, troops remaining in Iraq, war with Iran and more international meddling.

chiefforlife
07-04-2007, 10:54 AM
You both make excellent points. The Dems have missed their opportunity to shine. Whats left...

recxjake
07-04-2007, 11:17 AM
I realize its early but also believe that GW has torn the party and country apart. I think the voters are ready for a big change, I am registered as a republican but will not be voting for any republican. Most of the people I talk to have the same view. A lot can happen over the next 17 months, most likely is that GW will continue to give the middle finger to the people and sour even more voters on his party, therefor electing a democratic president.

30% of this country is Republican, 30% Democrat...... The 40% in the middle are the ones that matter. They don't vote party, they vote for the person. In a generic R vs D presidential match Dems win big.... but then put names in it... specifically Rudy, and it is a dead heat.

HolmeZz
07-04-2007, 12:37 PM
The American people aren't enthralled with Rudy like you want to believe, Jake. New York didn't even like him. His kid doesn't even like him.

I think most see that despite his love of bringing up 9/11, he actually has no experience when it comes to combating or preventing terrorism.

As rotten a politician as Romney is for having absolutely no core values, Rudy's worse for the way he exploits the tragedy of September 11th.

Ugly Duck
07-04-2007, 09:32 PM
I am registered as a republican but will not be voting for any republican. Most of the people I talk to have the same view. At least do this much for America: Vote for Rudy in the primaries. If Rudy gets the nomination... Republicans will stay away in droves. I'm a Democrat, but I'm voting for Rudy in the Republican primary. I urge everyone to do the same.

recxjake
07-04-2007, 09:36 PM
At least do this much for America: Vote for Rudy in the primaries. If Rudy gets the nomination... Republicans will stay away in droves. I'm a Democrat, but I'm voting for Rudy in the Republican primary. I urge everyone to do the same.

ROFL...

Rudy > Hillary

patteeu
07-05-2007, 10:29 AM
He tells people what they want to hear.... for instance yesterday he said he supports President Bush stepping in, and taking away the jail sentence.... yet when he was governor of MASS he went by the rule of absolutely no pardons for anyone.

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Romney means well, he just doesn't think before he talks I guess! I think people are finally starting to catch on.... His fundrasing dollars are down huge from Q1...

You compared him to Howard Dean. While I'm no fan of Dean, I don't think flip flopping or telling people what they want to hear were defining traits of the Dean campaign. In fact, it sounds a lot more like Bill Clinton than Howard Dean. And Romney's presence is more Clinton-like too.

BTW, I didn't notice any contradiction/flipflop in the hunting video you attached.