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Saulbadguy
07-03-2007, 09:08 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,287953,00.html



WICHITA, Kan. As stabbing victim LaShanda Calloway lay dying on the floor of a convenience store, five shoppers, including one who stopped to take a picture of her with a cell phone, stepped over the woman, police said.

The June 23 situation, captured on the store's surveillance video, got scant news coverage until a columnist for The Wichita Eagle disclosed the existence of the video and its contents Tuesday.

Police have refused to release the video, saying it is part of their investigation.

"It was tragic to watch," police spokesman Gordon Bassham said Tuesday. "The fact that people were more interested in taking a picture with a cell phone and shopping for snacks rather than helping this innocent young woman is, frankly, revolting."

The woman was stabbed during an altercation that was not part of a robbery, Bassham said. It took about two minutes for someone to call 911, he said.

Calloway, 27, died later at a hospital.

Two suspects have been arrested. A 19-year-old woman was charged with first-degree murder. Another suspect who turned himself in had not been charged as of Tuesday, the Sedgwick County prosecutor's office said.


The district attorney's office will have to decide whether any of the shoppers could be charged, Bassham said.

It was uncertain what law, if any, would be applicable. A state statute for failure to render aid refers only to victims of a car accident.

Eagle columnist Mark McCormick told The Associated Press he learned about the video when he called Wichita Police Chief Norman Williams to inquire about a phone call he had received from a reader complaining about a Police Department policy that requires emergency medical personnel to wait until police secure a crime scene before rendering aid. McCormick said Williams then unloaded on him about the shoppers in the stabbing case.

"This is just appalling," Williams told the newspaper. "I could continue shopping and not render aid and then take time out to take a picture? That's crazy. What happened to our respect for life?"

Coach
07-03-2007, 09:10 PM
I sure hope they charge the shoppers for failure to assist the victim.

One would wonder, if they actually assisted, would the victim be alive?

PinkFloyd
07-03-2007, 10:15 PM
Thats just sad... People are simply worthless for not having any compassion for peoples well being..

Rain Man
07-03-2007, 10:19 PM
It seems revolting, but depending on the amount of blood, it's possible that some of these people just thought she was drunk or something. I bet if you take a knife right to the heart, your bleeding might be mostly internal.

I know nothing about this, though, so maybe I'm wrong.

Brock
07-03-2007, 10:24 PM
No one who has ever been to Wichita will be surprised.

PinkFloyd
07-03-2007, 10:26 PM
No one who has ever been to Wichita will be surprised.


Yeah --- you got that right...

KCChiefsMan
07-03-2007, 10:31 PM
No one who has ever been to Wichita will be surprised.

I second that, my good friends' mom was murdered there last year. I mean a 30 yr old guy stabbed this wonderful elderly woman to death for nothing and they caught him at least and he's going to be spending the rest of his life in a prison while our tax dollars are gonna pay for him to be alive, I mean why the **** can't they just kill people like that.

ChiTown
07-03-2007, 10:35 PM
Yes.

This sort of thing happens at least 15x's a week in Wichita. I'm amazed I can make it down my driveway to grab the paper and return to my kitchen alive...............

shakesthecat
07-03-2007, 10:37 PM
I never realized Wichita was such a hellhole.

I know Dez Moinez has some shady neighborhoods, but you almost have to go looking for trouble.

trndobrd
07-03-2007, 10:37 PM
No one who has ever been to Wichita will be surprised.

Which QT was it? Seriously, there a a couple stores where someone lying on the floor is a fairly common occurance.

sedated
07-03-2007, 10:48 PM
A clear violation of the Good Samaritan law. They should be sentenced to one year in prison.

Coach
07-03-2007, 10:51 PM
I never realized Wichita was such a hellhole.

I know Dez Moinez has some shady neighborhoods, but you almost have to go looking for trouble.

That's not the case in Wichita. Usually, trouble goes looking for you.

trndobrd
07-03-2007, 11:02 PM
A clear violation of the Good Samaritan law. They should be sentenced to one year in prison.

In the U.S. there is no affirmative duty to render aid to anyone, unless you were the cause of the injury. Even then all you really have to do is call 911.

Good Samaritan is a protection under the civil code, not criminal law. Good Samaritan laws protect people giving first aid from lawsuit if they attempt to render aid and the victim dies or is further injured.

trndobrd
07-03-2007, 11:05 PM
That's not the case in Wichita. Usually, trouble goes looking for you.

But when it's not out looking for you, Trouble is often at the 13th and Oliver or Broadway and Murdock QT getting a cold fountain drink and 0.99 hot dog.

ChiTown
07-03-2007, 11:07 PM
But when it's not out looking for you, Trouble is often at the 13th and Oliver or Broadway and Murdock QT getting a cold fountain drink and 0.99 hot dog.

You mean to tell me that there's no trouble on the mean streets of Central and 127th Street (Northeast side) Conoco?

trndobrd
07-03-2007, 11:24 PM
You mean to tell me that there's no trouble on the mean streets of Central and 127th Street (Northeast side) Conoco?


Did the Cappacino machine go out?

kcfanXIII
07-03-2007, 11:28 PM
A clear violation of the Good Samaritan law. They should be sentenced to one year in prison.

and their show should be canceled.

Chief Chief
07-03-2007, 11:52 PM
Eagle columnist Mark McCormick told The Associated Press he learned about the video when he called Wichita Police Chief Norman Williams to inquire about a phone call he had received from a reader complaining about a Police Department policy that requires emergency medical personnel to wait until police secure a crime scene before rendering aid. McCormick said Williams then unloaded on him about the shoppers in the stabbing case.

"This is just appalling," Williams told the newspaper. "I could continue shopping and not render aid and then take time out to take a picture? That's crazy. What happened to our respect for life?"[/QUOTE]


RESPECT FOR LIFE WENT OUT THE WINDOW WHEN OUR LEGAL SYSTEM ALLOWED SO-CALLED 'VICTIMS' TO SUE THE LIVIN' DAYLIGHTS OUT OF OUR GOOD SAMARITANS.

Cochise
07-04-2007, 01:31 AM
There is generally no duty to rescue, trndobrd is right.

Still appalling that some people would put their funyuns over someone sprawled out dying on the floor.

Ari Chi3fs
07-04-2007, 01:35 AM
Go Shockers! Right ChiefaRoo... Yay Wichita!!

HemiEd
07-04-2007, 02:42 AM
It is a sad story for sure, one isolated to only Wichita!

You people should stay away, or you might get a cap in your ass!

http://www.primacy.com/resources/PRIM-5472.pdf

http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/05/its_true_wichit.html

Smed1065
07-04-2007, 02:54 AM
It is a sad story for sure, DAMN JAYHAWKERS

SPchief
07-04-2007, 03:00 AM
In the U.S. there is no affirmative duty to render aid to anyone, unless you were the cause of the injury. Even then all you really have to do is call 911.

Good Samaritan is a protection under the civil code, not criminal law. Good Samaritan laws protect people giving first aid from lawsuit if they attempt to render aid and the victim dies or is further injured.


I believe Sedated was making a joke.

CoMoChief
07-04-2007, 03:02 AM
I sure hope they charge the shoppers for failure to assist the victim.

One would wonder, if they actually assisted, would the victim be alive?

You can't charge anyone for that.

ChiefaRoo
07-04-2007, 03:12 AM
Go Shockers! Right ChiefaRoo... Yay Wichita!!

Ari, how's your new business in Gay Porn going? I bet you've got the Fraternity guys lined up to make some extra coin. I'm sure you'll do well as you've got a nose for business and personal auditions. (Or should I have said mouth?)

Seriously, I'd like to know what part of town it happened in. I live in Old Town (core of the city) and I see some pretty dodgy types at the QT from time to time when I'm in there picking up my Doritos. Then again isn't that what you would expect to see in a convenience store almost anywhere?

Saul. I never met more druggies, dumb shits and black out drunks looking for a fight types in my life than when I used to go visit my buds in Manhattan back in the day. Ari, you and the KU/KC/Chicago/St. Louis element that make up the majority base of your alma mater are kidding yourselves if you think those cities don't have their own problems.

I always find it funny that KC guys like to tell BTK jokes when KC has had it's fair share of killers (like this guy known as the Kansas City Vampire) and of course Illinois was home to good old John Wayne Gacy who as I've read spent some time in Iowa as well. It is sad that someone got stabbed and no one helped but to indict all the people of a city for a few callous a-holes is stupid. Hell, they were probably Okies passing through town and had to stop for some WD-40 and a slurpee before heading over to Skips for some sheep "dating".

KC Vampire
http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/weird/sappington/1.html

John Wayne Gacy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Wayne_Gacy


Now, school is adjourned........goodnight.

Saggysack
07-04-2007, 04:32 AM
Anyone from the KC Metro area that is being critical of Wichita, it's crime and it's citizens really should look in the mirror.

When KC can get its murder rate below Oakland, then, maybe, you will have the high horse to sit upon. Until that time...

stevieray
07-04-2007, 09:29 AM
...and we call it progress.

HemiEd
07-04-2007, 03:50 PM
...and we call it progress.

Crack has set us back a long way, in some areas of these towns.

T-post Tom
07-05-2007, 12:02 AM
In the U.S. there is no affirmative duty to render aid to anyone, unless you were the cause of the injury. Even then all you really have to do is call 911.

Good Samaritan is a protection under the civil code, not criminal law. Good Samaritan laws protect people giving first aid from lawsuit if they attempt to render aid and the victim dies or is further injured.

I am outraged! Fabulous, Stupendous, Outrageous! Of course a bra's not going to fit on over a leotard. A bra's got to fit right up against a person's skin...like a glove! By the way, Jerry, they're real, and they're spectacular.

Otter
07-05-2007, 04:28 AM
Ah, that mid-western hospitality we east coasters always hear about.

Lzen
07-05-2007, 09:17 AM
It seems revolting, but depending on the amount of blood, it's possible that some of these people just thought she was drunk or something. I bet if you take a knife right to the heart, your bleeding might be mostly internal.

I know nothing about this, though, so maybe I'm wrong.

I'm thinking Kevin may be right. I worked in C-stores for years and saw a lot of things like this (no, not someone who actually was stabbed). People may not have realized that this woman was injured.

Of course, if there was a lot of blood....... I take it all back.

Dallas Chief
07-05-2007, 10:50 AM
Ari, how's your new business in Gay Porn going? I bet you've got the Fraternity guys lined up to make some extra coin. I'm sure you'll do well as you've got a nose for business and personal auditions. (Or should I have said mouth?)

Seriously, I'd like to know what part of town it happened in. I live in Old Town (core of the city) and I see some pretty dodgy types at the QT from time to time when I'm in there picking up my Doritos. Then again isn't that what you would expect to see in a convenience store almost anywhere?

Saul. I never met more druggies, dumb shits and black out drunks looking for a fight types in my life than when I used to go visit my buds in Manhattan back in the day. Ari, you and the KU/KC/Chicago/St. Louis element that make up the majority base of your alma mater are kidding yourselves if you think those cities don't have their own problems.

I always find it funny that KC guys like to tell BTK jokes when KC has had it's fair share of killers (like this guy known as the Kansas City Vampire) and of course Illinois was home to good old John Wayne Gacy who as I've read spent some time in Iowa as well. It is sad that someone got stabbed and no one helped but to indict all the people of a city for a few callous a-holes is stupid. Hell, they were probably Okies passing through town and had to stop for some WD-40 and a slurpee before heading over to Skips for some sheep "dating".

KC Vampire
http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/weird/sappington/1.html

John Wayne Gacy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Wayne_Gacy


Now, school is adjourned........goodnight.

That is some of the funniest stuff I've ever read on the Planet!!! Wichita homerism. Now I have seen it all...
:LOL: :LOL: :LOL:

ct
07-05-2007, 10:54 AM
Yes.

This sort of thing happens at least 15x's a week in Wichita. I'm amazed I can make it down my driveway to grab the paper and return to my kitchen alive...............

Seriously, I live in fear just to roll out of my safe and cozy bed. I should move to one of those utopia places I've heard so much about, hear they're nice. John Lennon gave a concert there once.

ROYC75
07-05-2007, 11:17 AM
In all fairness, dumbass's rome the face of the earth, everywhere.

BFTR, When I was a cop in Derby and interviewed a police job in Wichita, I decieded right away I wanted to stay in Derby.Wichita has always been know as a tough town to live in....

FTR, KC has alot of crime, Denver, Dallas, OKC, you can go anywhere to find it.

ChiTown
07-05-2007, 11:43 AM
In all fairness, dumbass's rome the face of the earth, everywhere.

BFTR, When I was a cop in Derby and interviewed a police job in Wichita, I decieded right away I wanted to stay in Derby.Wichita has always been know as a tough town to live in....

FTR, KC has alot of crime, Denver, Dallas, OKC, you can go anywhere to find it.

Completely agree.

Baby Lee
07-05-2007, 11:52 AM
That is some of the funniest stuff I've ever read on the Planet!!! Wichita homerism. Now I have seen it all...
:LOL: :LOL: :LOL:
Did they ever get a people train, or do you still hafta be a hog or a cattle?

Chief Chief
07-05-2007, 11:53 AM
At times it finds you.

trndobrd
07-05-2007, 11:58 AM
Did they ever get a people train, or do you still hafta be a hog or a cattle?


That's kind of a cheap shot, don't you think? We do have people trains. In fact, they recently started putting them in front of the cattle cars.

ChiefaRoo
07-05-2007, 12:34 PM
That is some of the funniest stuff I've ever read on the Planet!!! Wichita homerism. Now I have seen it all...
:LOL: :LOL: :LOL:


It's not that. I've lived in Atlanta, Memphis and L.A. and have been to every major US city in the US and all I am saying is for people from Manhattan, small town KS, KC, anywhere in Mizzery or from Ioway to take shots at Wichita is a delusional on their part and makes me laugh.

Duck Dog
07-05-2007, 01:27 PM
I'll call 911 but I'm not touching any stranger who is bleeding without protection.

KC Kings
07-05-2007, 02:11 PM
I'll call 911 but I'm not touching any stranger who is bleeding without protection.

I was eating lunch downtown, and a waiter passed out on the other side of the restaraunt. With Westport being close by and the metro-sexual style being popular, just about every waiter in KC looks gay. He was out for a little while and the manager asked for somebody that knew CPR. I know CPR, but I am not going to put my lips on some guy that looks gay that passed out for some unknown reason. I kind of felt bad for it later, but decided that if help was not on the way, (somebody already called 911), or if he would of passed out for a known reason, that I would have helped.

This doesn't sound like some random stabbing of an innocent bystander. Some people deserve a good whipping, and while this case is a little extreme, I think a lot of people have been in cases where a loud mouthed punk gets his tail whipped, and you laugh at him as his is laying on the floor in pain.

CoMoChief
07-05-2007, 03:01 PM
just about every waiter in KC looks gay.


ROFL

HemiEd
07-05-2007, 04:05 PM
http://video.msn.com/v/us/v.htm?g=e40fe58a-ff45-480c-b560-fc08a863d57f&t=m10&f=06/64&p=hotvideo_m_edpicks&fg=&GT1=10150

HemiEd
07-05-2007, 04:07 PM
Did they ever get a people train, or do you still hafta be a hog or a cattle?

They used to have people trains, but so many people had their own cars, nobody rode on them.

Saulbadguy
07-05-2007, 07:26 PM
http://video.msn.com/v/us/v.htm?g=e40fe58a-ff45-480c-b560-fc08a863d57f&t=m10&f=06/64&p=hotvideo_m_edpicks&fg=&GT1=10150
25th and Hillside? That's just a few blocks away from Wichita State University.

HemiEd
07-05-2007, 09:33 PM
25th and Hillside? That's just a few blocks away from Wichita State University.

4 blocks, in a 10 block stretch that I wouldn't travel. It sure isn't the very worst part of town though.
I think there may be more to this story, I have my suspicions.
Would be helpers feared reprisal from:
1) Drug Dealer
2) gangs
3) pimp

trndobrd
07-05-2007, 09:35 PM
4 blocks, in a 10 block stretch that I wouldn't travel. It sure isn't the very worst part of town though.
I think there may be more to this story, I have my suspicions.


It wasn't in a QT as previously mentioned.

HemiEd
07-05-2007, 09:38 PM
It wasn't in a QT as previously mentioned.

No, it might be classified as a convenience store, but it looks more like a converted Sinclair station from the 60s.

WilliamTheIrish
07-05-2007, 09:43 PM
It's not that. I've lived in Atlanta, Memphis and L.A. and have been to every major US city in the US and all I am saying is for people from Manhattan, small town KS, KC, anywhere in Mizzery or from Ioway to take shots at Wichita is a delusional on their part and makes me laugh.

But it didn't make you laugh. It made you react like a 13 year old girl who couldn't understand her first cycle.

The only thing missing was you stamping your foot. Sally.

ChiefaRoo
07-05-2007, 09:50 PM
But it didn't make you laugh. It made you react like a 13 year old girl who couldn't understand her first cycle.

The only thing missing was you stamping your foot. Sally.

Doo-dah needs its props Bill. Saul is just taking a shot because he knows KSU has the third best B-Ball program and the fourth best coach in the State.