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Taco John
07-25-2007, 11:52 PM
Just a little something for the growing number of Ron Paul fans in here to enjoy. :)

A great interview!

Part 1:
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Part2:
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Silock
07-26-2007, 09:23 AM
I'd rep you, but I have to spread it around more first.

recxjake
07-26-2007, 09:45 AM
The great Ron Paul.... who polls in the single digits.....

BucEyedPea
07-26-2007, 11:19 AM
The great Ron Paul.... who polls in the single digits.....
Well, the current Pub polls aren't that meaningful when viewed against polls claiming 57% Republicans are not satisfied with the field at this point.

Poll: Parties Differ on 2008 Prospects (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/03/12/opinion/polls/main2559478.shtml)
The Dems, on the other hand, are happy with their choices.

Paul is very slowly creeping up at 2-3% now, with 6% from Texas, a state with a lot of electoral votes. More money is coming in too. It's not completely unrealistic he could pass, slowly with more exposure over time, Romney who's national poll numbers are at 10% right now.

Here's the thing, Guiliani is an open borders guy and if that gets out forget it!
And if the GOP candidates keep using a terror and war message, they'll lose the main election. Only the base is in that camp...not the majority of American's right now. So GOP's candidates polls are not all that meaningful overall except possibly, to show how out of touch they are with Americans.

Taco John
07-26-2007, 11:38 AM
Did anyone notice that in the last month, Vegas moved Paul's odds from 200:1 to 15:1?

There's only one reason to do that: they don't want to risk losing money.

recxjake
07-26-2007, 01:20 PM
Well, the current Pub polls aren't that meaningful when viewed against polls claiming 57% Republicans are not satisfied with the field at this point.

Poll: Parties Differ on 2008 Prospects (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/03/12/opinion/polls/main2559478.shtml)
The Dems, on the other hand, are happy with their choices.

Paul is very slowly creeping up at 2-3% now, with 6% from Texas, a state with a lot of electoral votes. More money is coming in too. It's not completely unrealistic he could pass, slowly with more exposure over time, Romney who's national poll numbers are at 10% right now.

Here's the thing, Guiliani is an open borders guy and if that gets out forget it!
And if the GOP candidates keep using a terror and war message, they'll lose the main election. Only the base is in that camp...not the majority of American's right now. So GOP's candidates polls are not all that meaningful overall except possibly, to show how out of touch they are with Americans.



http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2007/7/26/102103.shtml?s=ic


http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/republican_presidential_nomination-192.html

jiveturkey
07-26-2007, 01:22 PM
Is he being included in most of the polls now?

recxjake
07-26-2007, 01:26 PM
Is he being included in most of the polls now?

NET LEANED VOTE:

7/21/07 6/1/07 4/15/07 2/25/07 1/19/07 12/11/06
Rudy Giuliani 34 32 33 44 34 34
John McCain 16 19 21 21 27 26
Fred Thompson 14 11 9 NA NA NA
Mitt Romney 8 9 9 4 9 5
Newt Gingrich 7 9 6 15 9 12
Tommy Thompson 3 1 2 2 1 2
Mike Huckabee 2 2 1 2 1 *
Duncan Hunter 2 1 1 * * 1
Ron Paul 2 1 1 1 1 NA
Sam Brownback 1 1 1 1 1 1
Tom Tancredo 1 1 1 * 1 *
Jim Gilmore NA 1 1 * 1 NA
Chuck Hagel NA NA * 1 * *
George Pataki NA NA 1 1 2 3
Other (vol.) * * 0 * * *
None of these (vol.) 5 3 4 2 2 6
Would not vote (vol.) 1 * * 1 1 *
No opinion 5 8 6 4 9 9

go bowe
07-26-2007, 01:46 PM
aarrrrrgh! my eyes!

hey, rex...

could you get somebody to show you how to insert tables without losing the formatting...

it's really hard to read it, at least for me...

otherwise, have a good day...

recxjake
07-26-2007, 01:55 PM
aarrrrrgh! my eyes!

hey, rex...

could you get somebody to show you how to insert tables without losing the formatting...

it's really hard to read it, at least for me...

otherwise, have a good day...

I posted it to show that Ron Paul has been in listed in polls, and he has gone from 1 % to 2%.

noa
07-26-2007, 01:58 PM
I posted it to show that Ron Paul has been in listed in polls, and he has gone from 1 % to 2%.

He doubled his support in just over a month

bkkcoh
07-26-2007, 02:06 PM
He doubled his support in just over a month

Thank god the election season only seems like it is 25 months, otherwise he may have a shot. :banghead:

Baby Lee
07-26-2007, 02:14 PM
Thank god the election season only seems like it is 25 months, otherwise he may have a shot. :banghead:
Doubling gets him a landslide in 7. :p

go bowe
07-26-2007, 02:44 PM
I posted it to show that Ron Paul has been in listed in polls, and he has gone from 1 % to 2%.i understand that part...

what i was talking about was the way your table appeared, all hunched together and very difficult for me to read...

i was talking about the formatting, not the subject...

and if your colums were in a straight lines, i would have had a much better chance of noticing ron paul's rise in the polls myself...

i'd love to see ron paul creep up on the leaders so he won't be left out of the rest of the debates...

he's a little loony at times, but i love his foreign policy ideas and some of his domestic agenda and i think people need to hear his views...

patteeu
07-26-2007, 03:37 PM
Did anyone notice that in the last month, Vegas moved Paul's odds from 200:1 to 15:1?

There's only one reason to do that: they don't want to risk losing money.

I didn't think Vegas took bets on political races. :shrug:

patteeu
07-26-2007, 03:40 PM
The things that make Ron Paul my favorite congressman (pretty much everything but his foreign policy views) are the things that will keep him from ever becoming President. Dick Cheney would even beat Ron Paul if Paul ever became enough of a candidate to warrant spending time exposing his strong libertarian views.

Taco John
07-26-2007, 03:43 PM
I didn't think Vegas took bets on political races. :shrug:



http://www.gambling911.com/Sportsbook.com-Online-Gambling.html

Taco John
07-26-2007, 03:44 PM
Dick Cheney would even beat Ron Paul if Paul ever became enough of a candidate to warrant spending time exposing his strong libertarian views.



You think people are inherently opposed to things like states rights, fiscal accountability, and freedom?

patteeu
07-26-2007, 03:46 PM
You think people are inherently opposed to things like states rights, fiscal accountability, and freedom?

When you get right down to it, yes I do.

patteeu
07-26-2007, 03:47 PM
http://www.gambling911.com/Sportsbook.com-Online-Gambling.html

Nice link. What's it mean?

Taco John
07-26-2007, 05:39 PM
Nice link. What's it mean?



From earlier in this thread:
I didn't think Vegas took bets on political races. :shrug:


Sportsbook.com Online Gambling offers the very best in online political betting including odds on each of the 2008 US Presidential candidates plus odds on all major sporting events and a nice selection of novelty bets.


Looks like it means that they do take bets on political races, but who can really tell...

BucEyedPea
07-26-2007, 06:25 PM
Does anyone know what the exact methodology is for conventional polls?
I heard it was only 100 persons surveyed. I just don't know....it'd be interesting to find out.

wazu
07-26-2007, 07:08 PM
Did anyone notice that in the last month, Vegas moved Paul's odds from 200:1 to 15:1?

There's only one reason to do that: they don't want to risk losing money.

Hmmm...those seem like unbelievably good odds for a guy who polls in the 1-2% range. Are those odds to win the general election, or the Republican primary? Neither seem that close. I'd place a bet against him if I wasn't such a fan.

|Zach|
07-26-2007, 07:19 PM
From earlier in this thread:






Looks like it means that they do take bets on political races, but who can really tell...
LMAO

wazu
07-26-2007, 07:47 PM
From TJ's gambling site....

Hillary Clinton at 2 to 1 odds for a Payout of $2 for Every $1 Bet or $200 for Every $100 Bet
Mayor Michael Bloomberg Goes From 150 to 1 Odds to 2 to 1 odds in just days Bet Here
Fred Thomas Betting Odds Open at 20 to 1 with a Payout Potential of $2000 for Every $100 Bet
Ron Paul Odds Slashed Dramatically From 200 to 1 to 15 to 1 in Just One Month - Payout $1500 for every $100 bet

Hillary Clinton gets the same odds as Michael Bloomberg? Ron Paul gets better odds than Fred Thomas? This seems fishy.

noa
07-26-2007, 07:49 PM
From TJ's gambling site....

Hillary Clinton gets the same odds as Michael Bloomberg? Ron Paul gets better odds than Fred Thomas? This seems fishy.

They got in their DeLorean and went to the future to get an almanac.

patteeu
07-27-2007, 09:18 AM
From earlier in this thread:






Looks like it means that they do take bets on political races, but who can really tell...

Doh. I don't know how I could have missed that. :redface:

OTOH, that's not a Vegas gambling site, it's Canadian (if I'm reading it right). I'm still thinking Vegas doesn't take these kinds of bets, but I could be wrong.