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Logical
08-01-2007, 10:48 PM
Car bomb kills 71 in divided Iraqi oil city

KIRKUK, Iraq -- A suicide bomber slaughtered at least 71 people and wounded scores more as he slammed his booby-trapped car into a Kurdish political office in Iraq's northern oil city of Kirkuk Monday.


http://www.metimes.com/storyview.php?StoryID=20070716-065723-8566r

Fishpicker
08-01-2007, 10:52 PM
thats a high casualty count but it's a single incident. I'd be interested to know if the # of attacks has dropped.

Logical
08-01-2007, 10:58 PM
thats a high casualty count but it's a single incident. I'd be interested to know if the # of attacks has dropped. The Number of attacks across all of Iraq has dropped by 1/3 but that is mainly due to a huge drop in Baghdad where the surge is occuring.

This was a smart strategy by Cheney as the news organizations are based in Baghdad so they knew this would give them the most PR bang for the buck.

ClevelandBronco
08-01-2007, 10:58 PM
Repost.

ChiefaRoo
08-01-2007, 10:58 PM
It was to be expected.

Logical
08-01-2007, 11:05 PM
Repost.Link? It could be but I did not see any other threads on it in the first page. I feel it deserves a thread just as much as the Patteu good news thread.

ChiefaRoo
08-01-2007, 11:15 PM
Link? It could be but I did not see any other threads on it in the first page. I feel it deserves a thread just as much as the Patteu good news thread.

Not really.

Logical
08-02-2007, 12:48 AM
Not really.Your opinion.

ChiefaRoo
08-02-2007, 01:12 AM
Your opinion.

What else would it be.

Direckshun
08-02-2007, 01:28 AM
Wow, that's bizarre.

The northernmost regions of Iraq has been trumpeted as largely, if not entirely, nonviolent.

Whack a mole? Perhaps. For sure there have been swarms of the insurgents spurned from Baghdad, so I guess there's a chance we'll start seeing a lot of insurgent activity in places we normally never see it.

Logical
08-02-2007, 01:30 AM
What else would it be.This is the best you can do to create controversy. How about discussing wack a terrorist mole as a more stimulating discussion.

ChiefaRoo
08-02-2007, 01:53 AM
This is the best you can do to create controversy. How about discussing wack a terrorist mole as a more stimulating discussion.

Ok, I enjoy watching our guys whack the terrorists. I hope more of them pop up and I hope we exterminate them all even if it takes 100 years.

StcChief
08-02-2007, 10:39 AM
Whack a mole will go on for a long time all over the world. likely coming to your backyard as well.

BucEyedPea
08-02-2007, 10:44 AM
thats a high casualty count but it's a single incident. I'd be interested to know if the # of attacks has dropped.
Per my sources attacks are down, but casualties are higher.
They're getting more efficient with practice I guess.
Think how efficient they're gonna be if we stay based on Bush claiming the Korean model.

Duck Dog
08-02-2007, 11:58 AM
Optimism? Pessimism? It will be years before we know if we were successful. The surge has slowed the terrorists down, but my gut says they are just moving themselves around and they'll regroup. Besides they have an endless supply of Muslims ready to die.

Retreating every soldier out of the ME will not stop terrorism. It will stop our men from dying everyday (in Iraq), but it won't stop Muslims from being the violent backward ass culture they are.

Taco John
08-02-2007, 12:36 PM
Retreating every soldier out of the ME will not stop terrorism. It will stop our men from dying everyday (in Iraq), but it won't stop Muslims from being the violent backward ass culture they are.



So then what's the point in staying? We've accomplished our mission: removing Saddaam Hussein. It's up to the Iraqis to do the rest.

Dallas Chief
08-02-2007, 10:59 PM
Car bomb kills 71 in divided Iraqi oil city

KIRKUK, Iraq -- A suicide bomber slaughtered at least 71 people and wounded scores more as he slammed his booby-trapped car into a Kurdish political office in Iraq's northern oil city of Kirkuk Monday.


http://www.metimes.com/storyview.php?StoryID=20070716-065723-8566r

Ooooooh! I bet you just couldn't wait to post this. Filled with glee you were. "Hip hip horray, things really aren't getting better!!!" Fuggin snoopy dancing in your gazebo, wearing your Birkenstock's, sippin on some 2 Buck Chuck. Great source too, btw.

Logical
08-03-2007, 03:27 PM
Ooooooh! I bet you just couldn't wait to post this. Filled with glee you were. "Hip hip horray, things really aren't getting better!!!" Fuggin snoopy dancing in your gazebo, wearing your Birkenstock's, sippin on some 2 Buck Chuck. Great source too, btw.

Do you prefer CNN
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/12/12/iraq.main/index.html

Here is 85 dead I did not put up a thread about it.
http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/0716/iraq.html
85 killed in Iraq bomb blasts

Monday, 16 July 2007 20:43


At least 85 people have been killed and 185 wounded in a suicide bomb blast in northern Iraq.
An explosive-laden truck was driven into the offices of the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan, the party of Iraqi President Jalal Talabani, in the northern Iraqi city of Kirkuk.

Baby Lee
08-03-2007, 03:42 PM
Tell the truth Logical, is optimism EVER the right approach? :p

mikey23545
08-03-2007, 03:46 PM
The Number of attacks across all of Iraq has dropped by 1/3 but that is mainly due to a huge drop in Baghdad where the surge is occuring.

This was a smart strategy by Cheney as the news organizations are based in Baghdad so they knew this would give them the most PR bang for the buck.

The difference between you and MeMeMe has diminished to an almost microscopic degree....

Logical
08-03-2007, 04:02 PM
Tell the truth Logical, is optimism EVER the right approach? :p

Probably not.

Baby Lee
08-03-2007, 04:11 PM
The difference between you and MeMeMe has diminished to an almost microscopic degree....
I was in the POOL!!!!!

Adept Havelock
08-03-2007, 04:24 PM
Tell the truth Logical, is optimism EVER the right approach? :p

Never.

Optimists do nothing but set themselves up for disappointment.

Since they always expect the worst, all the surprises in a Pessimists life are pleasant ones. :)

BucEyedPea
08-03-2007, 04:28 PM
Ya' know the United States military having to leave Iraq, and our not putting in a stable democracy in there ( if that's what one considers a "victory there) may just be the best thing for America. I think it would humble any wanna-be empire/nation builder, or meddling social engineers and cure them or at least more of them. Pride cometh before a fall.

Polls are showing the American people do not support more meddling in other nations this way. It's comes with a price...not a good one imo. Of course this bad precedent began at the turn of the last century. This practice was constantly fought by the classical liberals at that time and was not implemented without stuggle.

Once upon a time in America, there were no rogue states or failed nations. We did not pass judgement on a nation's morality, theology or trump up threats because we didn't like them and wanted to give them therapy. We did business as a nation with the Ottoman Empire and Czarist Russia. These govts always existed...it's no different than any other time in history. We became an economic powerhouse, the likes the world had never seen before because of this non-interventionist policy.

The downside is that our wealth attracted govt bureaucrats, capitalists interests intermingled with govt and elites who reveled in the idea of being a superpower because that very wealth provided the means ( through taxation and debt) to go abroad "seeking monsters to destroy." Unfortunately, it also leads to a superpower's demise too.

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

We may not get what we want in Iraq, but we may regain ourselves.

CHIEF4EVER
08-03-2007, 04:50 PM
So then what's the point in staying? We've accomplished our mission: removing Saddaam Hussein. It's up to the Iraqis to do the rest.

Ding ding ding! Ladies and Gentlemen, we have a winner!

The Iraqi Parliament has agreed on NONE of the legislation that it would take to bring all sides closer to peace. If the Iraqis want peace, they are going to have to fight for it themselves both politically and militarily.

Taco John
08-03-2007, 05:00 PM
Hey, you don't want to throw your lot in with me... I'm a fringe extremist who believes in extreme things... Like using our military conservatively, and getting them home to their families once their mission is completed.

ChiefaRoo
08-03-2007, 05:03 PM
Hey, you don't want to throw your lot in with me... I'm a fringe extremist who believes in extreme things... Like using our military conservatively, and getting them home to their families once their mission is completed.

Naw, Taco we believe your heart is in the right place and you are a good American. You're just stupid that's all.

Pitt Gorilla
08-03-2007, 05:04 PM
Ooooooh! I bet you just couldn't wait to post this. Filled with glee you were. "Hip hip horray, things really aren't getting better!!!" Fuggin snoopy dancing in your gazebo, wearing your Birkenstock's, sippin on some 2 Buck Chuck. Great source too, btw.I'm trying to figure out why any of what you wrote matters.

CHIEF4EVER
08-03-2007, 05:07 PM
Naw, Taco we believe your heart is in the right place and you are a good American. You're just stupid that's all.

LMAO

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Dallas Chief
08-03-2007, 11:11 PM
Do you prefer CNN
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/12/12/iraq.main/index.html

Here is 85 dead I did not put up a thread about it.
http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/0716/iraq.html
85 killed in Iraq bomb blasts

Monday, 16 July 2007 20:43


At least 85 people have been killed and 185 wounded in a suicide bomb blast in northern Iraq.
An explosive-laden truck was driven into the offices of the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan, the party of Iraqi President Jalal Talabani, in the northern Iraqi city of Kirkuk.
Much better. Thank you very much.

Ugly Duck
08-04-2007, 12:56 AM
I was in the POOL!!!!!

Hey.... I thought that was pretty dang funny! Baby Lee gets in a great line & nobody cares....