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Taco John
08-14-2007, 10:53 AM
Looks like Bush-Cheney Light to me...


Hillary's White House Records Won't Be Released Until After Election
LA Times | Peter Nicholas | August 14, 2007 08:46 AM

Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton cites her experience as a compelling reason voters should make her president, but nearly 2 million pages of documents covering her White House years are locked up in a building here, obscuring a large swath of her record as first lady.

Clinton's calendars, appointment logs and memos are stored at her husband's presidential library, in the custody of federal archivists who do not expect them to be released until after the 2008 presidential election.

A trove of records has been made public detailing the Clinton White House's attempts to remake the nation's healthcare system, following a request from Bill Clinton that those materials be released first. Hillary Clinton led the healthcare effort in 1993 and 1994.

But even in the healthcare documents, at least 1,000 pages involving her work has been censored by archives staff because they include confidential advice and must be kept secret under a federal law called the Presidential Records Act. Political consultants said that if Hillary Clinton's records were made public, rivals would mine them for scraps of information that might rattle her campaign.

"Those files -- that's the mother lode of opposition research," said Ray McNally, a Republican political consultant in Sacramento. "Opposition researchers would be very hungry to see what's there." Robert Shrum, senior political strategist in Democratic Sen. John F. Kerry's 2004 presidential campaign, said: "In 2 million pieces of paper, would opposition researchers hope to find one where she wrote a memo saying, 'I wish I'd never gotten involved in healthcare?' Sure. That's what they'd love to find."

At the Clinton library overlooking the Arkansas River, federal archivists clad in protective smocks are sorting through 80 million pages of records and another 20 million e-mails from a Clinton presidency that ended in January 2001. About 2 million of those pages concern the first lady's office.

Entire story:
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-clintondocs14aug14,1,2600051,print.story

CHIEF4EVER
08-14-2007, 10:58 AM
How is this news? WJC has had his lackey stealing and destroying incriminating documents, not to mention applying dirty political tricks to silence opposition for decades. Why would his ugly assed wife be any different?

StcChief
08-14-2007, 01:10 PM
Do they have costs for the broken lamps, ashtrays etc. the witched winged around the residence

Cochise
08-14-2007, 01:24 PM
Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton cites her experience as a compelling reason voters should make her president...

LMAO What experience? Presiding over a failed policy initiative?

Chief Henry
08-14-2007, 01:52 PM
How is this news? WJC has had his lackey stealing and destroying incriminating documents, not to mention applying dirty political tricks to silence opposition for decades. Why would his ugly assed wife be any different?


You mean her thighness is hiding documents!!! You don't suppose her thighness had anything to with those FBI records that just
showed up on her coffee table do you ????

Bob Dole
08-14-2007, 02:02 PM
What? There's not enough public evidence from the Rose Law Firm crap to convince the average person that she's dishonest?

StcChief
08-14-2007, 02:29 PM
What? There's not enough public evidence from the Rose Law Firm crap to convince the average person that she's dishonest? the billing records alone.....lost .... oh no wait found in the back closet at white house when fixing ventalation system.

Taco John
08-14-2007, 03:01 PM
The thing that gets me is that I don't know a single person who says that they would vote for her, and I live in the Portland, Oregon region. How can she be so far ahead in the polls?

patteeu
08-14-2007, 03:03 PM
The thing that gets me is that I don't know a single person who says that they would vote for her, and I live in the Portland, Oregon region. How can she be so far ahead in the polls?

I know several people who say they won't vote for her, but in the end I suspect they will. I can't think of anyone who says they want to vote for her though.

Mi_chief_fan
08-14-2007, 03:04 PM
The thing that gets me is that I don't know a single person who says that they would vote for her, and I live in the Portland, Oregon region. How can she be so far ahead in the polls?


Perhaps you only hang out with men? I mean, you are a donkey fan.

Cochise
08-14-2007, 03:17 PM
I know several people who say they won't vote for her, but in the end I suspect they will. I can't think of anyone who says they want to vote for her though.

I suspect that every one of our left leaning posters will end up casting a vote for her.

oldandslow
08-14-2007, 03:37 PM
I suspect that every one of our left leaning posters will end up casting a vote for her.

Cochise - you are very WRONG here...

I will never, ever, vote for HRC. I have given money to the Obama campaign and will be donating more. Clinton is Bush-lite concerning foreign policy, dishonest, machiavellian, and would be, imo, a disaster as a President.

If she wins the democratic nomination, I hope that Mitt Romney wins the Repub nomination, because he is the only member of the current crop whom I could stomach.

Otherwise I will not be voting for President in the General

Cochise
08-14-2007, 03:46 PM
Cochise - you are very WRONG here...

I will never, ever, vote for HRC. I have given money to the Obama campaign and will be donating more. Clinton is Bush-lite concerning foreign policy, dishonest, machiavellian, and would be, imo, a disaster as a President.

If she wins the democratic nomination, I hope that Mitt Romney wins the Repub nomination, because he is the only member of the current crop whom I could stomach.

Otherwise I will not be voting for President in the General

That is very interesting to me. You could switch from Obama to Romney in a moment? What draws you to each? I can see the attraction to Barry based on your vision about foreign policy.

oldandslow
08-14-2007, 04:02 PM
I honestly agree with Obama - on everything from health care, to the environment, to the war. I also feel he is honest, forthright, and would be a great leader.

I left out the minority candidates (Mike Huckabee for example - whose economic policies I might find some agreement with) because they will not win the nomination. Rudy or Mitt or John or Fred will.

Of those four, Mitt has the most executive experience, dealt with health care in a positive way, and is at least open to environmental discussion. I also believe him to be honest and would be a better leader than the rest. That we disagree about the war in Iraq is one issue, but at least I can find some things to like about him.

Rudy is a disaster waiting to happen. I don't agree with him on most social issues (gay civil unions being the exception) and I certainly don't agree with him economically. He is Bush II when it comes to Iraq. I also believe that more civil liberties will be lost if he takes office.

John is a loose wire. I simply cannot trust him to be president.

Fred is, by all accounts, lazy. Further, I really disagree with his economic philosophy. He would be terrible on Iraq and on environmental issues. Other, than HRC, He is the candidate I like least.

I hope that clarifies.

StcChief
08-14-2007, 04:27 PM
The thing that gets me is that I don't know a single person who says that they would vote for her, and I live in the Portland, Oregon region. How can she be so far ahead in the polls?
People that answer polls takers questions lie.... I always do.

or the poll is so biased it's easy to skew the results.

BucEyedPea
08-14-2007, 04:30 PM
The thing that gets me is that I don't know a single person who says that they would vote for her, and I live in the Portland, Oregon region. How can she be so far ahead in the polls?
Powerful vested interest money from Pacs just like Juliet has.
These early polls are mostly name recognition right now...but according to USA Today ( I posted somewhere in another thread on Sun) her lead is illusory...she's actually in a dead heat with Obama.

Cochise
08-14-2007, 04:43 PM
Fred is, by all accounts, lazy. Further, I really disagree with his economic philosophy. He would be terrible on Iraq and on environmental issues. Other, than HRC, He is the candidate I like least.

I hope that clarifies.

Lazy? By all accounts? By what accounts?

go bowe
08-14-2007, 04:47 PM
would you prefer a checking or a savings account?

Calcountry
08-14-2007, 04:49 PM
I cannot WAIT for Hillary to get the nomination.

If anything can re-galvanize, AND re-energise the conservative base, it WILL be her condescending head bob as she pans her oversized skull from left to right while saying, "I'm doing it, for the Children."

oldandslow
08-14-2007, 04:51 PM
Lazy? By all accounts? By what accounts?


Here is one...I could post many.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18999838/site/newsweek/

BucEyedPea
08-14-2007, 05:03 PM
Lazy? By all accounts? By what accounts?
I've been reading the same thing about him....very lazy. He accomplished little as a senator. His wife is the hardworker and doing most of the work for his campaign or so I've read. He'd make an excellent empty suit for someone to animate from behind.