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LapDog
05-08-2001, 11:57 PM
Did anybody read today's Chiefs article?

http://www.kcstar.com/item/pages/chiefs.pat,sports/3acca61a.506,.html

They're talking about training the QBs to throw long if the opportunity is there, or even if it's not. Let the receiver go to the ball and fight for it.

This is more confirmation that our offense is going to attempt to score quick and often. Even if they don't succeed, it'll be more fun to watch.

Collins was having a hard time adjusting since he's been throwing 'safe' for three years. Maybe that's why he looked bad in mini-camp.

LapDog

Frazod
05-09-2001, 12:00 AM
Wow. A thread about Chiefs football. Somebody pinch me....

TheFly
05-09-2001, 12:12 AM
[pinch!]

Frazod
05-09-2001, 12:14 AM
Hands off, bucko....

alanm
05-09-2001, 01:14 AM
Lapdog, Did you ever just consider the fact that Collins may just be bad period? And not just in mini camp? :D

LapDog
05-09-2001, 01:55 AM
Collins bad.....

Hmmh..

Interesting idea. I'll think about it and get back to you.
;)

alanm
05-09-2001, 02:14 AM
No, What I mean is maybe he's not suited to run more than your basic I formation play action passing. Maybe he's having a hard time throwing it long because he's never really had to consistently before.

LapDog
05-09-2001, 02:20 AM
I with you Alan. My last post was intended to be sarcasm.

I personally think he's a bad quarterback, mostly due to inexperience and too much time on the bench. What I meant in the original post is, when other board members were posting about how bad he looked, I got the impression he was even worse than usual. 'Bad' as opposed to his usual 'inadequate'.

BIG_DADDY
05-09-2001, 11:28 AM
Thank god. If I saw one more 2 yard pass on 3rd and 12 I think would PUKE.

BIG DADDY

Looking forward to a wide open offense.

KCTitus
05-09-2001, 11:33 AM
What about the 1 yard draw play on 3rd and 12, BD?

BIG_DADDY
05-09-2001, 11:39 AM
Those calls were freakin killing me. Throw the da*n thing 40 yrds down field and hope for the best. Even if they intercept the pass it would have been better than relying on our special teams the last couple years.

kcred
05-09-2001, 11:41 AM
BD - Agree 100%. Just got back from Vegas, made my usual 20 dollar bet on the Chiefs, got 25-1 at Caesars. Actually went for the Kentucky Derby, had a good winner there, but the rest of the weekend sucked.

BIG_DADDY
05-09-2001, 11:49 AM
It's almost like they are protecting their takeaway ratio. Who gives a flying rat's arse about that da*n ratio? Not me.

keg in kc
05-09-2001, 11:53 AM
Chiefs were only 25-1 at Caesar's?

Wow.

I figured they'd be 30-1 or worse.

BIG_DADDY
05-09-2001, 12:03 PM
Odds are 35-1 @ www.sportsbook.com

BIG_DADDY
05-09-2001, 12:22 PM
Odds are 35-1 @ www.sportsbook.com

milkman
05-09-2001, 06:43 PM
Although I have misgivings about whether this coaching staff is going to be successful in KC, I have to say this.

(Proctor, are you listening?)
Thank heaven MartyBall is dead in KC.
Thank heaven Martyball is now in DC.

Zebedee DuBois
05-09-2001, 06:51 PM
Martyball was pretty much fun back in the Okoye/DeBerg years. But it puttered out. I loved those years.

Zeb.
tryin' to keep SOME football threads in the top ten posts.

milkman
05-09-2001, 07:48 PM
Originally posted by Zebedee DuBois
Martyball was pretty much fun back in the Okoye/DeBerg years. But it puttered out.

The reason it was fun in those days was because of all the losing years that preceded Marty's arrival.
The reason it puttered out was because we came to realize that Martyball didn't attack the defense, and most importantly, became ultra-conservative in the 2nd half with only minimal leads.

I love maulball style offense, when it's played right. Maulball is not synonamous(sp) with passive ball. Maulball offenses can and should attack defenses and generate points. Green Bay did it under Lombardi. The Giants did it under Parcells. But Martyball is passive. That is the problem I always had with Marty.
If Marty realizes his mistake, he could make it to the SB someday. if he doesn't, and remains passive in his approach, he'll always be a coach that never gets there.

I wonder what coach holds the record for most regular season wins without ever having won a championship.
I'm betting Marty is approaching that dubious record.