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Jenson71
08-21-2007, 03:51 PM
... have too big of an importance factor in American politics?

Adept Havelock
08-21-2007, 04:44 PM
Yes, as do the nutters on the Left (Demo Underground, Kossacks, etc.)

Taco John
08-21-2007, 05:13 PM
No. Social interest groups gain their power through participation of people.

patteeu
08-21-2007, 08:18 PM
I voted "no."

I don't really think they have much influence. They have significant influence on what Republican politicians say, but not so much on what they end up doing AFAICT.

Mr. Kotter
08-21-2007, 08:27 PM
No. Social interest groups gain their power through participation of people.

Isaac puts up a trey.....and he scores!!!

Hell, even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in awhile.... ;)

Logical
08-21-2007, 08:34 PM
Yes and this applies to Muslim religious groups as well.

Taco John
08-21-2007, 08:58 PM
For what it's worth, I feel the same way about unions...

Mr. Kotter
08-21-2007, 09:01 PM
For what it's worth, I feel the same way about unions...

Yep. Damn, agreeing with Isaac twice in the same thread....surely Hell is freezing over. :)

Nightwish
08-21-2007, 09:44 PM
No. Social interest groups gain their power through participation of people.
Agreed 110%. I don't care for a lot of the conservative Christian special interest groups, but if they've got the numbers, the drive, and the means to effect influence, more power to 'em. To combat any given special interest, all anyone has to do is develop contrary groups with similar resources and resolve.

Taco John
08-21-2007, 10:14 PM
Yep. Damn, agreeing with Isaac twice in the same thread....surely Hell is freezing over. :)



Maybe you're losing your socialist streak... :)

SBK
08-22-2007, 12:13 AM
Why is it that in politics people would rather silence those that they oppose instead of stand up for what they believe?

Stupid. If you hate conservatives, stand up, don't try to tear em down. You'll never win crap doing things that way.

Nightwish
08-22-2007, 12:20 AM
Why is it that in politics people would rather silence those that they oppose instead of stand up for what they believe?

Stupid. If you hate conservatives, stand up, don't try to tear em down. You'll never win crap doing things that way.
Yet doesn't it seem to usually be the conservatives we hear most often whining about special interests?

SBK
08-22-2007, 01:31 AM
Yet doesn't it seem to usually be the conservatives we hear most often whining about special interests?

Haha, that's what the libs run on!!!

Either way it's retarded. People in this country need to stand up for what they believe, not tear down those that believe differently.

ClevelandBronco
08-22-2007, 02:10 AM
No matter whether the influence increases, decreases or remains the same, it will always be at the proper level.

Nightwish
08-22-2007, 02:38 AM
Haha, that's what the libs run on!!!

Either way it's retarded. People in this country need to stand up for what they believe, not tear down those that believe differently.
I agree, though I'm not sure where you're getting that it's "what the libs run on." Generally, it is the liberals who are most often accused of pandering to special interests, though it has also become more commonplace for conservatives to do the same during Bush's big government tenure.

SBK
08-22-2007, 08:51 AM
I agree, though I'm not sure where you're getting that it's "what the libs run on." Generally, it is the liberals who are most often accused of pandering to special interests, though it has also become more commonplace for conservatives to do the same during Bush's big government tenure.

Everytime there's an election we hear from the dems about how they won't cave to the special interest groups, and how they stand up for the common man and not big business (for instance).

I think I'm referring to the definition of special interests that dems use, and you're referring to the definition that repubs use. Same thing I guess. :hmmm:

StcChief
08-22-2007, 03:35 PM
same can be said about the 10-12% of all workers in labor unions.