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dirk digler
08-24-2007, 01:39 PM
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GRETZ: An Ugly Evening
Aug 24, 2007, 8:19:28 AM by Bob Gretz - FAQ

Mark down the date and time. It was August 23rd. The time was 8:46 p.m Central Daylight Time.

Thatís when Brodie Croyle had his welcome to the NFL moment.

Croyleís pass intended for Eddie Kennison was picked off by New Orleans cornerback Jason David, ending yet another fruitless Chiefs offensive possession.

And the Arrowhead faithful, at least those that bothered to show up for pre-season game No. 3 let him have it. A full shower of boos followed Croyle off the field. No NFL quarterback has ever worked his way into a starting job without hearing from unhappy hometown fans.

The problem for Croyle is that the booing was deserved. It was also more than likely directed at the entire Chiefs offense, which was simply awful against the Saints. Thus, New Orleans walked away with a 30-7 victory that wasnít as close as the score indicates.

Croyle was awful; hitting just five of 17 passes. Plus, he threw another interception, his third in three games. But he also had no help. Right now, the Chiefs offense is in a shambles and it starts along the offensive line. The front wall is not getting the job done, whether in the running game or the passing game.

Saints DE Will Smith destroyed left tackle Will Svitek, blowing past him and through him all evening. This is no way to evaluate a quarterback.

Coming into the game it seemed pretty obvious that Croyle was going to be Herm Edwards starting quarterback in Houston. All he had to do was go out against the Saints and not spit the bit, as the horse folks would say.

Well, Croyle spit the bit and now you have to wonder if the head coach might be re-thinking his position. He and the coaching staff certainly have to be rethinking what they are doing on offense, because nothing is getting done. The Chiefs have scored just two offensive TDs in three games, are averaging 212.7 yards per game and have turned the ball over six times. Dustin Colquitt is going to need a vacation after this pre-season; heís already punted 20 times in three weeks.

Some holes got punched in the Chiefs defense as well, although itís hard to get riled up at this unit thatís gotten no support from its offense. The Saints ripped off 74 plays against the Chiefs and held the ball for more than 37 minutes. Still, they had just one touchdown in their first eight possessions.

Itís the pre-season. These games are just snapshots of a team. But put up the three offensive snapshots side-by-side and thereís something to worry about. The Chiefs offensive line is not getting the job done. Maybe itís what they are being asked to do, and more specifically, maybe they are being asked to do things they cannot do. Edwards hinted at that on Thursday evening.

Whatever is going on with that unit, itís not going to matter who the starting quarterback for this team is if the offensive line doesnít get itís stuff together and become a more cohesive and productive unit.

Without that, Brodie Croyle and the rest of the Chiefs are going to hear many more catcalls from the stands in Arrowhead.

HonestChieffan
08-24-2007, 01:43 PM
who wrote that...not Gretz

Bob Dole
08-24-2007, 01:46 PM
The offensive line is indeed being asked to do something they can't do: block.

Redrum_69
08-24-2007, 01:49 PM
Maybe Brodie's wife hit him.....

Mr. Laz
08-24-2007, 01:49 PM
The problem for Croyle is that the booing was deserved. It was also more than likely directed at the entire Chiefs offense,.
:hmmm:

now where have i heard this before

hehe


i know it's been said before already ..... but who wrote this???

Reerun_KC
08-24-2007, 01:52 PM
Dammit DownField Big Game, Get the sand out of your vagina and come save this city...

Huard you are our only hope, without you we are like a ship without sails, canoe without a paddle, dog without a bone, you are the water in our ice tray, fish without water, Hootie without your Fathead....

We need you Huard, you are the way, the truth the life, no one can play behind this line but you....

Crashride
08-24-2007, 02:48 PM
what a pointless article

ChiefsCountry
08-24-2007, 02:48 PM
Maybe Brodie's wife hit him.....

I would love for her to do that to me. :p

Spott
08-24-2007, 03:46 PM
Damn, I didn't know that game was in KC. I'd be pissed if I paid money to see that.

CupidStunt
08-24-2007, 04:33 PM
1) The website needs an editor. Grammar is just brutal.

2) I'm surprised they'd post such a negative, albeit truthful, article.

Fairplay
08-24-2007, 04:49 PM
I can't believe the offensive line was not addressed more in the off season.

Basically just got Mcintosh and lost Black.

I hope our QB's don't injured this year because of this stupidity.

MichaelH
08-24-2007, 06:09 PM
I can't believe the offensive line was not addressed more in the off season.

Basically just got Mcintosh and lost Black.

I hope our QB's don't injured this year because of this stupidity.

It's not in Hermie's interest or forte. He knows zilch about offense. He tore down the Jets O and is now doing it to KC. Prepare to be lopsided yet again folks. We might have the makings of a great defense but the offense even with Johnson is mediorce at best.

Halfcan
08-24-2007, 07:27 PM
Printers has looked like our best option. The guy can run!

Logical
08-24-2007, 07:41 PM
Dammit DownField Big Game, Get the sand out of your vagina and come save this city...

Huard you are our only hope, without you we are like a ship without sails, canoe without a paddle, dog without a bone, you are the water in our ice tray, fish without water, Hootie without your Fathead....

We need you Huard, you are the way, the truth the life, no one can play behind this line but you....Damn fine post. I really enjoy great sarcasm.

Skip Towne
08-24-2007, 07:41 PM
Printers has looked like our best option. The guy can run!
Strong arm too. A poor man's Michael Vick.

runnercyclist
08-25-2007, 12:39 AM
Strong arm too. A poor man's Michael Vick.


and fumble. He is not the answer.

Guru
08-25-2007, 12:41 AM
Typical of Gretz to bash the fans.

Phobia
08-25-2007, 12:50 AM
Classless and deranged. One would think a Chiefs staffer would have a little more patience with the QBOTF than just 5 preseason quarters.

Guru
08-25-2007, 12:53 AM
Classless and deranged. One would think a Chiefs staffer would have a little more patience with the QBOTF than just 5 preseason quarters.

Carl does want Huard. Part of the grand plan maybe?

sportsman1
08-25-2007, 12:53 AM
Printers has looked pretty good though ( as compared to the others). I think he is more capable of being coached up and has a better chance at being starting qb in a year or so ( maybe, im dreaming). Start Huard this year. Croyle IMO will never be better than a backup. Im sorry. I followed him at BAMA he wasnt great there, he was average and wont be in the NFL.

Guru
08-25-2007, 12:55 AM
Printers has looked pretty good though ( as compared to the others). I think he is more capable of being coached up and has a better chance at being starting qb in a year or so ( maybe, im dreaming). Start Huard this year. Croyle IMO will never be better than a backup. Im sorry. I followed him at BAMA he wasnt great there, he was average and wont be in the NFL.


If Printers could solve his fumbling problem in practice, I am sure the staff would give him more of a chance. We haven't seen enough of him to really know if he can handle himself.

kregger
08-25-2007, 12:57 AM
Problem with Printers is the hammy he strained or pulled. I can't believe the coaches didn't pull him when he came up lame.

LocoChiefsFan
08-25-2007, 12:59 AM
and fumble. He is not the answer.
yeah and someone that throws atleast one interception per game is.

Guru
08-25-2007, 01:00 AM
yeah and someone that throws atleast one interception per game is.
all of our QBs have big faults. I can live with rookie faults over veteran faults. I don't consider Printers a rook or a vet though. Fumbling snaps is a HUGE fault though.

sportsman1
08-25-2007, 01:02 AM
Surely something can be done if fumbles are the sole problem? I donno just seems kinda rookieish when he has played CFL ball that long.

kregger
08-25-2007, 01:04 AM
His improvement in the pocket from last year is nothing short of remarkable. When the pocket breaks down this year, he's really the only option we have that can still make a play with his feet.

Guru
08-25-2007, 01:06 AM
His improvement in the pocket from last year is nothing short of remarkable. When the pocket breaks down this year, he's really the only option we have that can still make a play with his feet.
Don't get me wrong. I really do like Printers and you are right his mobility makes him a strong candidate considering our weak ass line problems. But if he can't fix that fumble problem he will never get a chance.

Guru
08-25-2007, 01:06 AM
Surely something can be done if fumbles are the sole problem? I donno just seems kinda rookieish when he has played CFL ball that long.

We are all still trying to figure that out. How do you go from league MVP in canada to fumble prone in the NFL?

Bob Dole
08-25-2007, 01:07 AM
Don't get me wrong. I really do like Printers and you are right his mobility makes him a strong candidate considering our weak ass line problems. But if he can't fix that fumble problem he will never get a chance.

Come on...you know you want to play the Race Card.

Guru
08-25-2007, 01:08 AM
Come on...you know you want to play the Race Card.
Never even crossed my mind. I see where you stand now though. :hmmm:

How about we put Croyle's wife in there under center in a bikini?

Bob Dole
08-25-2007, 01:09 AM
Never even crossed my mind. I see where you stand now though. :hmmm:
Actually, Bob Dole is sitting.

Phobia
08-25-2007, 01:11 AM
We are all still trying to figure that out. How do you go from league MVP in canada to fumble prone in the NFL?
Taking snaps from different centers all the time? I'm not too worried about that. I think it can be resolved.

Guru
08-25-2007, 01:14 AM
Actually, Bob Dole is sitting.

Hmmm, no denial there.
:)

htismaqe
08-25-2007, 08:47 AM
Taking snaps from different centers all the time? I'm not too worried about that. I think it can be resolved.

Yeah, give him another 3 or 4 years. By then he'll only be like 45 or something. Casey Printers = Vince Evans.

milkman
08-25-2007, 09:33 AM
Yeah, give him another 3 or 4 years. By then he'll only be like 45 or something. Casey Printers = Vince Evans.

The big difference there is that Evans had a couple of productive games in the NFL here and there.

Printers will never step out onto the field in a regular seaosn game.

Edit:Except, of course, when the swinging doors on the edges get both Croyle and Huard killed.

HypnotizedMonkey
08-25-2007, 09:56 AM
I'd like to see Printers with the starters. He does have a fumbling problem... but Croyle has an interception problem.. at least your team has a chance to recover a fumble! Huard will be a very conservative QB with no hopes of scampering outside for a first down, and I can guarantee when Huard gets blindsided... he's going to fumble it anyway.

htismaqe
08-25-2007, 12:29 PM
I'd love to see Printers with the starters.

That way it would finally be proven that he's not a real QB and people could finally shut up about it.

Crashride
08-25-2007, 12:39 PM
i second brodies wife in a bikini under center

HolmeZz
08-25-2007, 12:48 PM
I thought this thread was going to be about RINGLEADER's lay.