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Woodrow Call
08-25-2007, 01:29 PM
:banghead:

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/story/247259.html

Huard named as Chiefs starting quarterback
By ADAM TEICHER
The Kansas City Star
Damon Huard has won the Chiefs quarterback competition and will start the regular season opener Sept. 9 against the Texans in Houston.

Coach Herm Edwards seemed to be leaning toward starting Brodie Croyle. But Edwards apparently changed his mind after Croyle's disappointing play in Thursday night's preseason loss to New Orleans.

Huard, because of a sore calf muscle, did not play against the Saints. He did not lead the Chiefs to any touchdowns in either of the first two preseason games, but he had some success last season filling in for Trent Green.

pikesome
08-25-2007, 01:30 PM
The over/under on when he gets pulled?

Crashride
08-25-2007, 01:31 PM
WOW that just shut up pretty much everyone on this board

Otter
08-25-2007, 01:31 PM
My Sundays are free this season and I'll probably have more fun than caring what the **** happens to this ass backwards team.

cya

ChiefsCountry
08-25-2007, 01:31 PM
:banghead: :cuss: :banghead: :cuss: :banghead: :cuss: :banghead: :cuss: :banghead: :cuss: :banghead: :cuss: :banghead: :cuss:

BigMeatballDave
08-25-2007, 01:31 PM
WTF? He did absolutely NOTHING to earn it...

unothadeal
08-25-2007, 01:31 PM
Hootie in 3...2...1...

Crashride
08-25-2007, 01:32 PM
we need a crow eating thread.

Malcor
08-25-2007, 01:32 PM
Worst. Decision. EVAR!

cdcox
08-25-2007, 01:32 PM
eh. Brodie will get his chance this season. Hopefully, a little time on the bench will allow him to get a fresh perspective. Maybe the OL and WR play will be a little better when he gets back in.

the Talking Can
08-25-2007, 01:33 PM
Adios.

I quit.

BigMeatballDave
08-25-2007, 01:33 PM
I am so glad He got a chance to play with LJ...

Woodrow Call
08-25-2007, 01:33 PM
In about one second I lost all interest in this years team.

chefsos
08-25-2007, 01:33 PM
Print 'em...

Rain Man
08-25-2007, 01:33 PM
This is kind of like when Steve Young was named the starter over Joe Montana. Kind of.

88TG88
08-25-2007, 01:33 PM
and so it begins

CoMoChief
08-25-2007, 01:34 PM
WTF? He did absolutely NOTHING to earn it...
Either did Croyle.

I'm more than sure Carl had a say in this.

Crashride
08-25-2007, 01:34 PM
I am so glad He got a chance to play with LJ...

VERY good point. But he still was trying to be a badass and make ridiculous throws that led to ints. and we all know how much herm likes turnovers

luv
08-25-2007, 01:34 PM
Either did Croyle.

I'm more than sure Carl had a say in this.
Agreed. Everyone was leaning towards Croyle except for him.

BigMeatballDave
08-25-2007, 01:35 PM
In about one second I lost all interest in this years team.I'm with ya...

Mr. Laz
08-25-2007, 01:35 PM
Croyle by Green Bay

the Talking Can
08-25-2007, 01:36 PM
Carl won.

Mediocrity forever.

Nothing changes. 9-7.

this franchise EATS DICK

Skip Towne
08-25-2007, 01:37 PM
HOOTIE IS ALWAYS RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!

Crashride
08-25-2007, 01:38 PM
Croyle had a chance he just turned it over WAY to much IMO.

Direckshun
08-25-2007, 01:38 PM
Well, shit.

The Bad Guy
08-25-2007, 01:39 PM
Herm is full of shit too."Sometimes you gotta just pull the trigger."Since I have been a fan, we've had one QB in their 20s: Elvis Grbac. I was looking forward to seeing what Croyle could do, but I think the reason they didn't pull it on Brodie is because of the opening schedule.

luv
08-25-2007, 01:39 PM
Well, shit.
My sentiments, exactly.

BigMeatballDave
08-25-2007, 01:40 PM
Croyle had a chance he just turned it over WAY to much IMO.Jesus, he's a 2nd yr. QB. He is going to make mistakes. How many young QBs do not make mistakes?

OnTheWarpath58
08-25-2007, 01:40 PM
Wow.

They gave up on the kid after 3 preseason games.

I guess that means they think everything is fine with the OL and WR's, since it's all Brodie's fault....

Unreal.

the Talking Can
08-25-2007, 01:40 PM
my interest in this team just went to zero

and I now hate Herm...."9-7" Herm, the coward....

pikesome
08-25-2007, 01:41 PM
Croyle had a chance he just turned it over WAY to much IMO.

How many fumbles did Huard have last year?

Mr. Laz
08-25-2007, 01:42 PM
Wow.

They gave up on the kid after 3 preseason games.

I guess that means they think everything is fine with the OL and WR's, since it's all Brodie's fault....

Unreal.
where did that say this?



you think maybe they decided that with our OL/WR's being so bad that it might be bad for Croyle's development?

the Talking Can
08-25-2007, 01:43 PM
Croyle had a chance he just turned it over WAY to much IMO.

he had a chance??

how many NFL games did Croyle start?

0

we gave our QBOTF ZERO games to prove himself...that is awesome..

BigMeatballDave
08-25-2007, 01:43 PM
I kinda feel like I have been kicked in the nads...

Woodrow Call
08-25-2007, 01:44 PM
my interest in this team just went to zero

and I now hate Herm...."9-7" Herm, the coward....

This move has sent me from one of Herm's biggest supporters to a Reerun_KC level of hatred.

This is all Carl and Herm is his little puppet. 4321

Bwana
08-25-2007, 01:45 PM
Hmmm? I can't say I'm that broken up about this news. Yeah yeah, we need to develop a QB, but Croyle is still looking like hell. In time, I hope he is our QBOTF. Will Huard do better, I guess time will tell, but Croyle still needs A LOT of work at this point. In the big picture, it really doesn't matter who is behind center as long as our line can't block. Croyle will get his chance by game 3 IMHO, because Huard is going to get killed by opposing defenses. Printers should have his shot by game 7 after Croyle gets killed as well if the trend continues of the “no block scheme.” Who’s next? Can Boomer play QB??

BigMeatballDave
08-25-2007, 01:45 PM
where did that say this?



you think maybe they decided that with our OL/WR's being so bad that it might be bad for Croyle's development?Uh, NOT PLAYING is GOOD for development?

Bill Lundberg
08-25-2007, 01:45 PM
Hootie in 3,2, ...

OnTheWarpath58
08-25-2007, 01:46 PM
where did that say this?



you think maybe they decided that with our OL/WR's being so bad that it might be bad for Croyle's development?

Tell that to Manning, Aikman, etc.

The kid can't gain the experience he needs by holding a ****ing clipboard.

Part of that experience is facing adversity. They can sit him for 5 years, he's NEVER gonna be in a perfect situation.

All this does is puts the franchise another year behind.

MTG#10
08-25-2007, 01:46 PM
where did that say this?



you think maybe they decided that with our OL/WR's being so bad that it might be bad for Croyle's development?


Bingo. The last thing a young, developing QB needs is a terrible line and bad WR's. Starting Croyle now would hurt him more than it would help.

Skip Towne
08-25-2007, 01:47 PM
We don't need a good QB. We'll just use LJ as a battering ram. Like hooking up Secretariat to a plow.

BigMeatballDave
08-25-2007, 01:47 PM
Hootie in 3,2, ...He and TEX are busy jerking each other off at the moment...

Frazod
08-25-2007, 01:47 PM
Bingo. The last thing a young, developing QB needs is a terrible line and bad WR's. Starting Croyle now would hurt him more than it would help.

Sadly, I'd have to agree with that. We don't need Croyle to turn into David Carr.

luv
08-25-2007, 01:47 PM
Hmmm? I can't say I'm that broken up about this news. Yeah yeah, we need to develop a QB, but Croyle is still looking like hell. In time, I hope he is our QBOTF. Will Huard do better, I guess time will tell, but Croyle still needs A LOT of work at this point. In the big picture, it really doesn't matter who is behind center as long as our line can't block. Croyle will get his chance by game 3 IMHO, because Huard is going to get killed by opposing defenses. Printers should have his shot by game 7 after Croyle gets killed as well if the trend continues of the “no block scheme.” Who’s next? Can Boomer play QB??
In time? How much time are you talking?

Baby Lee
08-25-2007, 01:48 PM
Well that's about the shittiest news since Roaf retired. This team is not gonna be over .500 at any point in the next 5 years.

LJ is gonna get a ton of $$ doing something nobody gives a shit about, running the ball for the worst team in the league. Good for him.

BigMeatballDave
08-25-2007, 01:48 PM
Bingo. The last thing a young, developing QB needs is a terrible line and bad WR's. Starting Croyle now would hurt him more than it would help.Yey! Thanks for playing, "I know nothing about football"

RJ
08-25-2007, 01:49 PM
Croyle not being the opening day starter doesn't mean he'll never be the starter. Personally, if the guy isn't ready I'd rather see him on the bench for a few more games. I'm afraid if he starts and has a couple of games like this last one he'll be ruined forever. My guess is Croyle has the job permanently by November 1st.

MTG#10
08-25-2007, 01:49 PM
Yey! Thanks for playing, "I know nothing about football"

I have more football knowledge in my left nut than you, jackass.

the Talking Can
08-25-2007, 01:49 PM
This move has sent me from one of Herm's biggest supporters to a Reerun_KC level of hatred.

This is all Carl and Herm is his little puppet. 4321

Herm is my sworn enemy.

Now I have to watch Huard throw 5 yard swing passes on 3rd and 20. Because even the coaches have admitted that Huard can't make the throws that Croyle can.

We're going to run a conservative, up-the-butt, swing pass offense with a weak armed career back-up.

Yea!

I want season tickets!

This reeks of fear and mediocrity. It reeks of Carl.

Baby Lee
08-25-2007, 01:50 PM
They can sit him for 5 years, he's NEVER gonna be in a perfect situation.
And if you throw a newbie into a 'perfect situation' all you're doing is wasting the productive years of the rest of the team.

blueballs
08-25-2007, 01:51 PM
Croyle was given every op to earn it -he didn't
giving it to him after his preseason would be a mistake
Kudos to Huard for being the opening day starter -it only took him 11 seasons

BigMeatballDave
08-25-2007, 01:51 PM
Herm is my sworn enemy.

Now I have to watch Huard throw 5 yard swing passes on 3rd and 20. Because even the coaches have admitted that Huard can't make the throws that Croyle can.

We're going to run a conservative, up-the-butt, swing pass offense with a weak armed career back-up.

Yea!

I want season tickets!

This reeks of fear and mediocrity. It reeks of Carl.LMAO I have to laugh to keep from crying...

StcChief
08-25-2007, 01:52 PM
Mid season Croyle as QB

BigMeatballDave
08-25-2007, 01:52 PM
I have more football knowledge in my left nut than you, jackass.That must be one huge nut...

Bowser
08-25-2007, 01:53 PM
Bingo. The last thing a young, developing QB needs is a terrible line and bad WR's. Starting Croyle now would hurt him more than it would help.

Quoted for truth.

Bwana
08-25-2007, 01:53 PM
Sadly, I'd have to agree with that. We don't need Croyle to turn into David Carr.

Bingo, or Ryan Leaf.

MTG#10
08-25-2007, 01:53 PM
Mid season Croyle as QB

Hopefully by then our line will be playing better and our receivers will learn to catch.

Chris Meck
08-25-2007, 01:53 PM
Very disappointing.

the Talking Can
08-25-2007, 01:54 PM
so, we wait until our OL is "good"...at which point Gonzo , Dunn, and Kennison have retired and LJ is broken down.

The we'll have to wait until we have someone for Croyle to thow to....then....blah blah blah...

Medocrity loving Franchise serving it up for its mediocrity loving fans.

A Carl special.

John_Wayne
08-25-2007, 01:55 PM
Why did Herm make this decision?

Two words:

CARL PETERSON

Bowser
08-25-2007, 01:55 PM
Uh, NOT PLAYING is GOOD for development?

Maybe, when our supposed "QBotF" has an injury history and our offensive line could be a sieve. What good is it going to do if we give Croyle the David Carr treatment?

JBucc
08-25-2007, 01:55 PM
My intersest in the Chiefs just died by about half.

blueballs
08-25-2007, 01:56 PM
Croyle is too much like Pennington
for Herm not to annoint him starter
he just needs to brake a collarbone on the sideline

Mr. Laz
08-25-2007, 01:56 PM
Yey! Thanks for playing, "I know nothing about football"
he's right ... you might wanna check yourself


playing in a bad situation can kill a young QB

Baby Lee
08-25-2007, 01:56 PM
Hopefully LJ is training full time to pick up Huard's fumbles and try to get some gain out of them.

Mr. Laz
08-25-2007, 01:57 PM
so, we wait until our OL is "good"...at which point Gonzo , Dunn, and Kennison have retired and LJ is broken down.

The we'll have to wait until we have someone for Croyle to thow to....then....blah blah blah...

Medocrity loving Franchise serving it up for its mediocrity loving fans.

A Carl special.
hi chicken little ... my name is Laz




never got to say that before ..... it's not as much fun as i thought.

Bowser
08-25-2007, 01:57 PM
Hopefully LJ is training full time to pick up Huard's fumbles and try to get some gain out of them.

At least Huard can throw the ball AND catch it, too!

the Talking Can
08-25-2007, 01:58 PM
This franchise deserves Huard.

blueballs
08-25-2007, 01:58 PM
At least Huard can throw the ball AND catch it, too!

HA
HAHA
HAHAHA

the Talking Can
08-25-2007, 01:59 PM
hi chicken little ... my name is Laz




never got to say that before ..... it's not as much fun as i thought.

hi laz, why do you love mediocrity so much?

is it fear or just habit?

Crashride
08-25-2007, 01:59 PM
Croyle was given every op to earn it -he didn't
giving it to him after his preseason would be a mistake
Kudos to Huard for being the opening day starter -it only took him 11 seasons

Thank you. My only regret is he didnt get a chance to play with LJ other than that he got a good amount of time in preseason. Besides whos to say they wont pull huard

Baby Lee
08-25-2007, 01:59 PM
he's right ... you might wanna check yourself


playing in a bad situation can kill a young QB
So what's the official line.
Brodie's so bad he can't take the job from a fumbling career backup, or
the whole team's so bad we're gonna just give up and hope nobody important for the future gets hurt.

OnTheWarpath58
08-25-2007, 01:59 PM
And if you throw a newbie into a 'perfect situation' all you're doing is wasting the productive years of the rest of the team.

Exactly.

If Herm really wants a youth movement, there's no reason not to let this team grow TOGETHER.

For every David Carr, there's a Peyton Manning.

For every Ryan Leaf, there's a Troy Aikman.

Guys who had jack-shit around them and became better because of it. They faced adversity and won.

Instead, we're gonna sit the kid until Week 4, 8, whatever. THEN the rebuilding starts ALL OVER AGAIN because he has NO EXPERIENCE.

This team gains nothing by sitting Croyle.

Fruit Ninja
08-25-2007, 02:00 PM
I knew he would be the starter. There is no way they put Brodie behind that line.

Mr. Laz
08-25-2007, 02:00 PM
So what's the official line.
Brodie's so bad he can't take the job from a fumbling career backup, or
the whole team's so bad we're gonna just give up and hope nobody important for the future gets hurt.
how dare you doubt Carl Peterson


prove he's making a mistake

Bowser
08-25-2007, 02:01 PM
On a brighter note, Steve McNair sat on the bench for two seasons behind Chris ****ing Chandler, so there may be hope yet for young Mr. Croyle.*









*and no, I'm not saying Croyle is the next McNair, so stop typing it.

Malcor
08-25-2007, 02:01 PM
Is there any chance that this is a bad joke? Or a nightmare? ~sigh~

blueballs
08-25-2007, 02:02 PM
Thank you. My only regret is he didnt get a chance to play with LJ other than that he got a good amount of time in preseason. Besides whos to say they wont pull huard

Hootie
-rimshot-

Crashride
08-25-2007, 02:02 PM
how dare you doubt Carl Peterson


prove he's making a mistake
ROFL

Guru
08-25-2007, 02:02 PM
What a dumbass move.

MTG#10
08-25-2007, 02:03 PM
This team gains nothing by sitting Croyle.

Maybe not but the team gains nothing if Croyle is in a body cast either.

Baby Lee
08-25-2007, 02:04 PM
Is there any chance that this is a bad joke? Or a nightmare? ~sigh~
I keep refreshing this to see ONE word, . . . Nuthooks.

Praying little prayers [dontbetruedontbetruedontbetrue] in between.

blueballs
08-25-2007, 02:05 PM
you do know who radio callers wanted
the mighty Casey -by a landslide

Crashride
08-25-2007, 02:05 PM
Hootie
-rimshot-

LOL true. I wish brodie could have started but I guess the team upstairs isnt willing to take a chance on a bad season or two where as the fans are ready

ChiefsFan4Life
08-25-2007, 02:06 PM
This just confirms that we have the dumbest ****ing front office in the league - I know Carl did this

Mr. Laz
08-25-2007, 02:06 PM
the team might not gain anything by sitting Croyle ... BUT Croyle might gain a ton by not getting shredded.

the development of Croyle is more important imo


and besides people ..... i imagine they are only talking about delaying Croyle start by half a season unless Huard lights it up.

Rain Man
08-25-2007, 02:06 PM
Croyle was given every op to earn it -he didn't
giving it to him after his preseason would be a mistake
Kudos to Huard for being the opening day starter -it only took him 11 seasons

Carl didn't want to rush his development.

16-0, baby! Carl is pulling out all of the stops to make this the magic season for us. He sees the window starting to close, and he's diving through it like a pasty, pudgy, bird-legged Indiana Jones.

the Talking Can
08-25-2007, 02:06 PM
Maybe not but the team gains nothing if Croyle is in a body cast either.

this is the NFL

any player can get hurt on any play....holding him out for fear of injury is absurd....an absurd excuse for remaining mediocre....

MTG#10
08-25-2007, 02:06 PM
The fans arent ready for a bad season, did you hear them booing Brodie after his INT against the Saints?

Baby Lee
08-25-2007, 02:07 PM
Maybe not but the team gains nothing if Croyle is in a body cast either.
I love the mental image of Herm presenting this to the team.

Let's not get this twisted, you guys suck entirely to much to risk a guy with a possible future playing with you, so . . . well, last time I checked, Damon's on the backside of his career, and his kids will love him, be he able bodied or drooling moron. Brodie's bride, she still has options, so we're gonna play [stifled snicker] to win the game, with Damon.

blueballs
08-25-2007, 02:08 PM
If you dis like Huard so much -I do
you know Croyle will get the job
fumbled into his lap -no more controversy

MTG#10
08-25-2007, 02:08 PM
this is the NFL

any player can get hurt on any play....holding him out for fear of injury is absurd....an absured excuse for remaining mediocre....

Its not just in fear of injury. HE CANT LEARN AND GET BETTER IF HE DOESNT HAVE TIME TO MAKE READS.

Rain Man
08-25-2007, 02:08 PM
and besides people ..... i imagine they are only talking about delaying Croyle start by half a season unless Huard lights it up.

Yeah. Huard's playoffs start today, because the first or second bad outing and he's out of there. Let's see how he plays under pressure.

OnTheWarpath58
08-25-2007, 02:08 PM
Maybe not but the team gains nothing if Croyle is in a body cast either.

He could get hurt in the 6th game just as easy as the 1st game.

If we're waiting until the time when he can't get hurt, we're gonna be waiting forever......

Fruit Ninja
08-25-2007, 02:08 PM
he had a chance??

how many NFL games did Croyle start?

0

we gave our QBOTF ZERO games to prove himself...that is awesome..
If he cant do it in preseason what makes you think he can do it during live games when every play out there is usually number 1's? He's not ready. He also cannot play behind a horrible Oline. Huard showed he can do it.


I dont know what more people want, they gave Brodie ever chance in the preseason to win it, and he couldnt do it. He had 1 good drive in 3 games. 3 stupid mental turn overs that he should have never thrown. He doesnt make them stupid 3 throws and maybe he would have stood a chance.

Bowser
08-25-2007, 02:08 PM
I wonder if Dick Curl cried a little today..... :hmmm:

tk13
08-25-2007, 02:09 PM
Eh, I can honestly say I don't have a problem with it. Croyle needs to play sometime this year though.

the Talking Can
08-25-2007, 02:09 PM
I love the mental image of Herm presenting this to the team.

Let's not get this twisted, you guys suck entirely to much to risk a guy with a possible future playing with you, so . . . well, last time I checked, Damon's on the backside of his career, and his kids will love him, be he able bodied or drooling moron. Brodie's bride, she still has options, so we're gonna play [stifled snicker] to win the game, with Damon.


Team, we're going to waste your careers by delaying the progress of our QBOTF. Tony, buy the time we actually play Brodie you will be retired.

LJ, you will have blown out both knees.

All right, now lets go out there and give them a 9-7 season! Who's with me!!

Guru
08-25-2007, 02:10 PM
If he cant do it in preseason what makes you think he can do it during live games when every play out there is usually number 1's? He's not ready. He also cannot play behind a horrible Oline. Huard showed he can do it.


I dont know what more people want, they gave Brodie ever chance in the preseason to win it, and he couldnt do it. He had 1 good drive in 3 games. 3 stupid mental turn overs that he should have never thrown. He doesnt make them stupid 3 throws and maybe he would have stood a chance.
His receivers catch the damn ball and we could be saying the same

Bwana
08-25-2007, 02:11 PM
Fastest thread to reach 100 posts ever.

the Talking Can
08-25-2007, 02:11 PM
If he cant do it in preseason what makes you think he can do it during live games when every play out there is usually number 1's? He's not ready. He also cannot play behind a horrible Oline. Huard showed he can do it.


I dont know what more people want, they gave Brodie ever chance in the preseason to win it, and he couldnt do it. He had 1 good drive in 3 games. 3 stupid mental turn overs that he should have never thrown. He doesnt make them stupid 3 throws and maybe he would have stood a chance.

uh, you do understand there is a difference between preseason and regular season don't you?

Thew Chiefs are the only team in history who develop, and then give up on, their QBs based only on preseason.

Like I said...awesome.

So who should we draft next year for our preseason QBOTF development plan?

the Talking Can
08-25-2007, 02:13 PM
Its not just in fear of injury. HE CANT LEARN AND GET BETTER IF HE DOESNT HAVE TIME TO MAKE READS.

HE CAN'T LEARN AND GET BETTER IF HE DOESN'T ****ING PLAY


for the love of god HE HAS TO PLAY TO DEVELOP....OSMOSIS DOESN'T WORK IN FOOTBALL..

Fruit Ninja
08-25-2007, 02:13 PM
His receivers catch the damn ball and we could be saying the same
but they didnt. still, he made 3 bad bad plays. Them is what Herm always talks about. In his stupid style of offense you cannot commit turnovers. Thats exactly what Brodie did. Now if it was a tipped ball interception or something then maybe Brodie could have started, Throwing off his back foot. Throwing the ball directly to the other team Neil O'Donnell style isnt going to get you a starting job in the NFL.

Baby Lee
08-25-2007, 02:13 PM
Team, we're going to waste your careers by delaying the progress of our QBOTF. Tony, buy the time we actually play Brodie you will be retired.

LJ, you will have blown out both knees.

All right, now lets go out there and give them a 9-7 season! Who's with me!!
New mental image, Herm driving the Chiefs' bus, only he's never heard of a clutch and is flailing the shifter hither and yon, grinding every gear, eventually wearing the shift selector to a nub.

JBucc
08-25-2007, 02:13 PM
I can see it now. Huard plays kinds eh, but the team does decent and wins a couple games. Now they can't just "give up on the season" and put in Croyle, so Huard plays more. Then we'll miss the playoffs by a game or two and next year we'll hear the "We just need a few more pieces to be a really good team and win this year" shit. And then I jump off a bridge. But it was only a small bridge over a creek so then I go buy a gun and hold up a rope store so I can hang myself.

irishjayhawk
08-25-2007, 02:14 PM
uh, you do understand there is a difference between preseason and regular season don't you?

Thew Chiefs are the only team in history who develop, and then give up on, their QBs based only on preseason.

Like I said...awesome.

So who should we draft next year for our preseason QBOTF development plan?

Kerry Meier would fit well.

Fruit Ninja
08-25-2007, 02:15 PM
uh, you do understand there is a difference between preseason and regular season don't you?

Thew Chiefs are the only team in history who develop, and then give up on, their QBs based only on preseason.

Like I said...awesome.

So who should we draft next year for our preseason QBOTF development plan?
Ok answer me this. Why throw in a young guy who makes bad choices behind a 2006 Raiders offensive line? What good would that do Brodie? Give him the Harrington effect? Thats exactly what would happen if they named him the starter. Its like putting a rat in a snake cage, its only going to end up horrible.

Malcor
08-25-2007, 02:15 PM
Because we all know that first year quarterbacks can't be allowed to make mistakes. Peyton surely had zero INTS in his first year as a starter, right?

OnTheWarpath58
08-25-2007, 02:15 PM
If he cant do it in preseason what makes you think he can do it during live games when every play out there is usually number 1's? He's not ready. He also cannot play behind a horrible Oline. Huard showed he can do it.


I dont know what more people want, they gave Brodie ever chance in the preseason to win it, and he couldnt do it. He had 1 good drive in 3 games. 3 stupid mental turn overs that he should have never thrown. He doesnt make them stupid 3 throws and maybe he would have stood a chance.

Holy Christ.

I'll mention 2 names again.

Manning. Aikman.

I guess they weren't ready either, considering they won 4 games COMBINED in their rookie seasons.

ping2000
08-25-2007, 02:16 PM
I've seen 9-7 about five times in this thread. Who in the hell thinks we can win 9? Really?

Mr. Laz
08-25-2007, 02:16 PM
I love the mental image of Herm presenting this to the team.

Let's not get this twisted, you guys suck entirely to much to risk a guy with a possible future playing with you, so . . . well, last time I checked, Damon's on the backside of his career, and his kids will love him, be he able bodied or drooling moron. Brodie's bride, she still has options, so we're gonna play [stifled snicker] to win the game, with Damon.
how about this...

Herm "Croyle is a young guy who will get his chance but right now the veteran Huard gives us the best chance to win ... and this team wants to win"



but hey ... your fantasy shit is so much more melodramatic, lets go with it. ROFL

Spott
08-25-2007, 02:16 PM
Now we'll finish 6-10 instead of 5-11.

Woodrow Call
08-25-2007, 02:17 PM
I can see it now. Huard plays kinds eh, but the team does decent and wins a couple games. Now they can't just "give up on the season" and put in Croyle, so Huard plays more. Then we'll miss the playoffs by a game or two and next year we'll hear the "We just need a few more pieces to be a really good team and win this year" shit. And then I jump off a bridge. But it was only a small bridge over a creek so then I go buy a gun and hold up a rope store so I can hang myslef.

Yep. That is exactly what is going to happen. I can see it now Huard starts for the rest of the Herm tenure because we're so "close" and Croyle waste away on the bench till he explodes with another team.

OnTheWarpath58
08-25-2007, 02:18 PM
So who should we draft next year for our preseason QBOTF development plan?

Brian Brohm.

But if he doesn't light it up in the first two PS games, we shitcan his sorry ass.

Rain Man
08-25-2007, 02:18 PM
I bet Brodie's wife is adorable when she's crying, her chest heaving, her lower lip quivering, a big tear welling up in her eye and rolling down her cheek.

Skip Towne
08-25-2007, 02:18 PM
Seriously, I'd rather see Printers start than Huard. He at least has the tools to overcome our shit line. Run a lot of bootlegs a la Denver.

Baby Lee
08-25-2007, 02:19 PM
And then I jump off a bridge. But it was only a small bridge over a creek so then I go buy a gun and hold up a rope store so I can hang myslef.
ROFL ROFL - that's true art, paging Bartletts.

Bald but Beautiful
08-25-2007, 02:20 PM
To me, this is similiar to when the Giants started Kurt Warner over Eli Manning and then the job eventually went to Manning. Evn then Eli has not exactly been tremendous as a starter, I think this is the direction the franchise is going.

BIG_DADDY
08-25-2007, 02:20 PM
I've seen 9-7 about five times in this thread. Who in the hell thinks we can win 9? Really?


3-13, I called that before the season began. Raiders unfortunately looked decent last night as well. :cuss:

Dayze
08-25-2007, 02:21 PM
extremely diappointmed with this decision; however, completely unsurprised by it.

The Chiefs as an organization (Carl, the Hunts, et al) are scared to death to start a young QB; they are not scared by the possibilty of losing, only by it's bi-product ; lowered fan support. Period..

The Chiefs as an organization are delusional to think they have a 'shot' at anything other than a .500 or slightly better season.

As some have already stated, this is only delaying the inevitable; you must start a young QB to keep up with your counterparts in the AFCW at this point. So, say Croyle starts the last 6 or so games of the season....wow.....nice job. Just another season behind the other teams who aren't scared to see what they've got.

In poker, there are those players who you know you can bluff, because they will NEVER call; regardless of it they have a good hand. The Chiefs are this player.

Spott
08-25-2007, 02:22 PM
To me, this is similiar to when the Giants started Kurt Warner over Eli Manning and then the job eventually went to Manning. Evn then Eli has not exactly been tremendous as a starter, I think this is the direction the franchise is going.


Except for the fact that both of those QB's are better than Huard & Croyle.

ChiefsCountry
08-25-2007, 02:22 PM
Maybe the Rams, Texans, or Bears can do us a big favor.

OnTheWarpath58
08-25-2007, 02:23 PM
To me, this is similiar to when the Giants started Kurt Warner over Eli Manning and then the job eventually went to Manning. Evn then Eli has not exactly been tremendous as a starter, I think this is the direction the franchise is going.

No disrespect, but not even close.

Warner won a Super Bowl and an MVP for Christ sake.

Huard went 5-3 last year, chewed up some shitty defenses (Arizona, STL) and shit down his leg against the good ones. (Pittsburgh, Miami)

Guru
08-25-2007, 02:23 PM
extremely diappointmed with this decision; however, completely unsurprised by it.

The Chiefs as an organization (Carl, the Hunts, et al) are scared to death to start a young QB; they are not scared by the possibilty of losing, only by it's bi-product ; lowered fan support. Period..

The Chiefs as an organization are delusional to think they have a 'shot' at anything other than a .500 or slightly better season.

As some have already stated, this is only delaying the inevitable; you must start a young QB to keep up with your counterparts in the AFCW at this point. So, say Croyle starts the last 6 or so games of the season....wow.....nice job. Just another season behind the other teams who aren't scared to see what they've got.

In poker, there are those players who you know you can bluff, because they will NEVER call; regardless of it they have a good hand. The Chiefs are this player.

Carl has no idea where the fan support lies.

Baby Lee
08-25-2007, 02:23 PM
how about this...

Herm "Croyle is a young guy who will get his chance but right now the veteran Huard gives us the best chance to win ... and this team wants to win"



but hey ... your fantasy shit is so much more melodramatic, lets go with it. ROFL
So, you apparently choose,

Brodie's so bad he can't take the job from a fumbling career backup, OVER

the whole team's so bad we're gonna just give up and hope nobody important for the future gets hurt.

CHIEF4EVER
08-25-2007, 02:25 PM
uh, you do understand there is a difference between preseason and regular season don't you?

Thew Chiefs are the only team in history who develop, and then give up on, their QBs based only on preseason.

Like I said...awesome.

So who should we draft next year for our preseason QBOTF development plan?

Do you have ANY empirical evidence to support your clam? If not, your claim is nothing more than an "I think the decision making at 1 Arrowhead Drive sucks" rant.

Woodrow Call
08-25-2007, 02:25 PM
3-13, I called that before the season began. Raiders unfortunately looked decent last night as well. :cuss:

I may just be bitter right now but IMO the Raiders might just be better than the Chiefs right now. :Lin:

QB-Raiders
RB-Chiefs
WR-Raiders
TE-Chiefs
OL-Tie
DL-Oak
LB-Tie
CB-Tie
S-Oak

Baby Lee
08-25-2007, 02:25 PM
To me, this is similiar to when the Giants started Kurt Warner over Eli Manning and then the job eventually went to Manning. Evn then Eli has not exactly been tremendous as a starter, I think this is the direction the franchise is going.
You're right!! I'd forgotten all about Huard's SB MVP trophy.

ChiefsCountry
08-25-2007, 02:25 PM
Maybe its some kind of mind game that Herm is playing with Brodie. The LJ effect, piss him off so he plays well.

FAX
08-25-2007, 02:26 PM
Now I've been gloomy lately, thinking about the bad things to come
And I believe it could be, something awful has begun

Oh I've been drinking lately, and dreaming that we might win one
And I believe it could be, last place has finally come

Cause out on the edge of darkness,
There rides a Doom Train
Oh Doom Train takin' this franchise,
To 4 and 12 again

Now I've been suicidal lately, thinking about the losses to come
And I believe it could be, we'll take it up the bum.

Oh Doom Train sounding louder
Glide on the Doom Train
Come on now Doom Train
Yes, Doom Train holy roller

Everyone jump upon the Doom Train
Come on now Doom Train

Get your lube together, go bring your vasoline too
Cause we're getting Huard, who knows, he might win two

Now come and join the o-line, Lord know they won't block you
Cause we're getting Huard, who knows, he might win two

Now I've been crying lately, thinking about the team as it is
Why must we go on losing, why must we play like piss

Cause out on the edge of darkness,
There rides a Doom Train
Oh Doom Train takin' this franchise,
To 4 and 12 again

FAX

OnTheWarpath58
08-25-2007, 02:26 PM
So, you apparently choose,

Brodie's so bad he can't take the job from a fumbling career backup, OVER

the whole team's so bad we're gonna just give up and hope nobody important for the future gets hurt.

The press conference to announce we're sitting Tank, Turk, Tamba, Pollard, Page and Bowe will be tomorrow......

Can't risk them getting hurt, seeing as how we suck so much.......

Rain Man
08-25-2007, 02:27 PM
Herm is setting up a scenario for a moment when Mrs. Brodie Croyle comes into his office in a light, wispy sundress and says, "Mistah Edwahds, mah husband Brodah jus' gotta staht. He just gotta. What cain Ah do ta make shuh that happ'ins. Ah'll do anahthang."

Guru
08-25-2007, 02:29 PM
Herm is setting up a scenario for a moment when Mrs. Brodie Croyle comes into his office in a light, wispy sundress and says, "Mistah Edwahds, mah husband Brodah jus' gotta staht. He just gotta. What cain Ah do ta make shuh that happ'ins. Ah'll do anahthang."
Herm is too stupid to fall for that.

Rain Man
08-25-2007, 02:29 PM
Maybe its some kind of mind game that Herm is playing with Brodie. The LJ effect, piss him off so he plays well.

The only flaw with that theory is that he won't be playing. The pissing him off part should work well, though.

Malcor
08-25-2007, 02:29 PM
Do you have ANY empirical evidence to support your clam? If not, your claim is nothing more than an "I think the decision making at 1 Arrowhead Drive sucks" rant.
How about the fact that we have never developed a QB?

Skip Towne
08-25-2007, 02:31 PM
Herm is setting up a scenario for a moment when Mrs. Brodie Croyle comes into his office in a light, wispy sundress and says, "Mistah Edwahds, mah husband Brodah jus' gotta staht. He just gotta. What cain Ah do ta make shuh that happ'ins. Ah'll do anahthang."
Herm: That's OKaaaaay!

ping2000
08-25-2007, 02:31 PM
Herm is setting up a scenario for a moment when Mrs. Brodie Croyle comes into his office in a light, wispy sundress and says, "Mistah Edwahds, mah husband Brodah jus' gotta staht. He just gotta. What cain Ah do ta make shuh that happ'ins. Ah'll do anahthang."

Herm would have her suit up at left tackle.

FAX
08-25-2007, 02:32 PM
Hermoine has his reasons. Downfield clearly won this based on performance.

When you total up the quarterback rankings for all the pre-season games so far, Downfield came out on top 25 to 20.

FAX

tk13
08-25-2007, 02:32 PM
Carl has no idea where the fan support lies.
I don't know. I'll get shot in the face for saying this... I'm not saying it's true, might not be, but it's not a stretch to think Carl sat there and watched the home fans boo the offense the other night in a flippin' preseason game and decided to put his foot down. I'm surprised they made this decision.

I don't think they were just booing Croyle, but if Huard comes in and plays well again at home, like he did last year, the fans will go nuts and cheer for him again. And to Carl that's gonna be the "fan support".

Fairplay
08-25-2007, 02:36 PM
The news of Huard being the starter doesn't surprise me. I look at it that Croyle will eventually start eventually this season. If Huard does good then that means he stays in and we win games. He Huards does bad Croyle is in anyway. People around here need to have a little more patience with this decision.

Skip Towne
08-25-2007, 02:38 PM
The news of Huard being the starter doesn't surprise me. I look at it that Croyle will eventually start eventually this season. If Huard does good then that means he stays in and we win games. He Huards does bad Croyle is in anyway. People around here need to have a little more patience with this decision.
We can only hope Croyle "eventually starts eventually".

keg in kc
08-25-2007, 02:38 PM
"Won" roflmao.

This really is martyball now, no other way to look at it. They're so afraid of the QB making a mistake that they're going with the guy who can't possibly win a game for the Chiefs. Not because he's better, but because he's (maybe) less likely to throw a pick. And we'll see how true that holds, now that for the first time, he really is the starter, with all of that entails in terms of pressure and expectations.

It's going to be really, really painful watching an offense with 20 pass attempts a game, all of them floading out there like wounded ducks.

Things had been looking up, roster-wise, but this is a huge step back.

I hope you enjoyed your August in the sun, Croyle, because now you get to watch a martyocre career backup start in front of you, while your own development is thrown to the wayside.

Now it's official: welcome to the 90s! I wonder which SF qb we're scouting now.

the Talking Can
08-25-2007, 02:39 PM
how about this...

Herm "Croyle is a young guy who will get his chance but right now the veteran Huard gives us the best chance to win ... and this team wants to win"




thank you

that is the perfect illustration of Carl-ism

we must "win now"....we must be 9-7....and we will, as we have forever, not do anything to risk being 9-7

win now! win now!

Chiefs get what the want. And what they want is 9-7.

sportsman1
08-25-2007, 02:39 PM
Im glad Huard is starting, Croyle has a lot of work to do.Huard aint a Montana but he got the job done last year, only problem is Herm will probably now shoulder the brunt of the work on LJ like last year.

the Talking Can
08-25-2007, 02:40 PM
Do you have ANY empirical evidence to support your clam?


ROFL


i love clam

OnTheWarpath58
08-25-2007, 02:40 PM
I don't know. I'll get shot in the face for saying this... I'm not saying it's true, might not be, but it's not a stretch to think Carl sat there and watched the home fans boo the offense the other night in a flippin' preseason game and decided to put his foot down. I'm surprised they made this decision.

I think that's EXACTLY what happened.

Boy is Carl gonna be surprised when Damon plays like shit and the fans boo the bejesus out of him......

Hell, the fans booed a guy who had thrown for over 4,000 yards 3 seasons in a row. They'll have no problem booing WHOEVER steps behind center.

CHIEF4EVER
08-25-2007, 02:40 PM
I don't know. I'll get shot in the face for saying this... I'm not saying it's true, might not be, but it's not a stretch to think Carl sat there and watched the home fans boo the offense the other night in a flippin' preseason game and decided to put his foot down. I'm surprised they made this decision.

I don't think they were just booing Croyle, but if Huard comes in and plays well again at home, like he did last year, the fans will go nuts and cheer for him again. And to Carl that's gonna be the "fan support".

Sounds plausible but even Carl isn't THAT myopic. The kid has to fall on his face a few times like everyone else. He will get his shot in due time. Patience..........

BigMeatballDave
08-25-2007, 02:40 PM
Im glad Huard is starting, Croyle has a lot of work to do.Huard aint a Montana but he got the job done last year, only problem is Herm will probably now shoulder the brunt of the work on LJ like last year.Got the job done? How many playoff games did we win?

FAX
08-25-2007, 02:44 PM
One thing is certain. The fans deserve better than this.

Like having a red-hot poker shoved up our asses, for example.

FAX

the Talking Can
08-25-2007, 02:46 PM
One thing is certain. The fans deserve better than this.

Like having a red-hot poker shoved up our asses, for example.

FAX

I'm not sure they do.

I think there are a lot of fans who want 9-7. And they won't accept any risk at all. They'd rather root for a mediocre team than a rebuilding team.

BigRock
08-25-2007, 02:47 PM
Holy Christ.

I'll mention 2 names again.

Manning. Aikman.

I guess they weren't ready either, considering they won 4 games COMBINED in their rookie seasons.
Does anyone want to post the list of inexperienced QBs who got thrown into bad situations and never panned out? Of course not, because nobody even remembers half of them. Hell, just this offseason, 2 high first-round pick QBs who got thrown into the fire from Day 1 signed with new teams as backups.

People can say Manning and Aikman until the cows come home, but looking at the overall history of QBs getting shoved into bad spots, the odds are slightly more in favor of Brodie ending up a backup for the Titans in 4 years than they are of him getting a bust in Canton.

I'm not even saying I agree with the decision, but some of you are acting like no QB has ever sat for a year or two and ended up being a good player. Like the only way for them to get good is to throw them on the field, even if it's a bad situation for them.

OnTheWarpath58
08-25-2007, 02:47 PM
Someone should Photoshop a headstone:

Brodie Croyle

April 29, 2006 - August 25, 2007

"We hardly knew thee"

the Talking Can
08-25-2007, 02:49 PM
Someone should Photoshop a headstone:

Brodie Croyle

Preseason: April 29, 2006 - August 25, 2007

"We hardly knew thee"

keg in kc
08-25-2007, 02:49 PM
Does anyone want to post the list of inexperienced QBs who got thrown into bad situations and never panned out? Well, you can throw a young QB into the fire and see if he'll pan out. Or you can start a career backup instead and guarantee he won't. Nobody completes passes from the bench.

It probably wouldn't be an issue if they hadn't been talking since April about how good he looked and how they thought he was ready. As it stands now, the only reason they're not starting him is because the whole direction of the organization is "play not to lose". Period.

It's pathetic.

Woodrow Call
08-25-2007, 02:49 PM
I'm not sure they do.

I think there are a lot of fans who want 9-7. And they won't accept any risk at all. They'd rather root for a mediocre team than a rebuilding team.

They don't. Most of the casual fans I know love Huard and think he gives the Chiefs the best chance to win. All they care about is this year despite the fact that this team has no chance to win a Super Bowl. They love 9-7.

Heck a couple of the other boards are praising this move.

OnTheWarpath58
08-25-2007, 02:49 PM
I'm not sure they do.

I think there are a lot of fans who want 9-7. And they won't accept any risk at all. They'd rather root for a mediocre team than a rebuilding team.

Bingo.

And I think that represents the OVERWHELMING MAJORITY.

patteeu
08-25-2007, 02:52 PM
I'd have loved to see Croyle make it impossible not to name him the starter for the season opener, but he didn't.

Huard earned the position as starter-by-default with his play last year, IMO. I hope he does well, and if he doesn't they can always do what Denver did last year when they gave up on Plummer and decided to get their young QB some experience.

Fruit Ninja
08-25-2007, 02:54 PM
They don't. Most of the casual fans I know love Huard and think he gives the Chiefs the best chance to win. All they care about is this year despite the fact that this team has no chance to win a Super Bowl. They love 9-7.

Heck a couple of the other boards are praising this move.
I dont think people love 9-7. Its more of the Chiefs have been crappy for the last 35 years and want to win in all now. They dont want next year, or 2 years down the line. They want to win now. Huard pretty much is the one that got us to the play offs last year by playing smart.

I have no idea if they can get their this year. I know i will be watching though.

FAX
08-25-2007, 02:54 PM
I'm not sure they do.

I think there are a lot of fans who want 9-7. And they won't accept any risk at all. They'd rather root for a mediocre team than a rebuilding team.

Point taken, Mr. the Talking Can. However, I honestly didn't see much difference between Brodie and Downfield in pre-season play. If anything, Downfield excelled by displaying a phenomenal ability to consistently overthrow receivers.

Besides, Downfield certainly doesn't guarantee us 9 wins. He is a "game manager", in my view. Nothing more, nothing less. Sure, he'll get the doom train to the station on time, but the ride will be far less entertaining for the "average" fan.

FAX

HolyHandgernade
08-25-2007, 02:55 PM
This is actually what I predicted before training camp opened. Three of our first four are on the road. Brodie would have had to have taken the job, and he didn't. I suspect he will be starting sometime this season if we are not in the chase late. If Huard can lead this team to the playoffs, more power to him!

-HH

Chiefaholic
08-25-2007, 02:56 PM
I'de rather Brodie wait to become the starter after our O-Line gets Mac back. Give the kid time to make the best decision and see exactly what kind of skills the kid has. Let Huard start while the line gells and split the snaps in practice 60/40 till that point.

Croyle hopefully is our QBOTF, but he shouldn't be thrown to the wolves. With our current inability to block, we're not going to win with Manning under center.

PunkinDrublic
08-25-2007, 02:56 PM
My God I can't believe some of you sandy vaginas. Why is this such a big suprise? Herm said he would give the job to the QB who gives them the best chance to win. At this moment in time it happens to be Huard. Croyle may be ready and step in at mid season or down the stretch but right now he's clearly not.

There are plenty of examples of QBs that waited a little while before stepping into the starting spot at QB. Tony Romo with Dallas, Phillip Rivers with the Chargers and Jay Cutler in Denver. Jake Plummer was mediocre at best and Cutler had way more potential long term but the Rat thought Cutler wasn't ready at the beginning of the season so he went with Plummer. The point is the current decision isn't set in stone and Brody will get his shot.

the Talking Can
08-25-2007, 02:59 PM
I dont think people love 9-7. Its more of the Chiefs have been crappy for the last 35 years and want to win in all now. They dont want next year, or 2 years down the line. They want to win now. Huard pretty much is the one that got us to the play offs last year by playing smart.

I have no idea if they can get their this year. I know i will be watching though.

win now


....it's always "win now"....

sigh

Hoover
08-25-2007, 03:00 PM
I guess I'm the minority here.

I'm glad Haurd is the qb for the start of the season, especially if McIntocsh is out or just coimging back. If Haurd does well and the team jells around him great, lets see what happens, if that doesn't happen and the Chiefs with Haurd are a .500 team then bring in Brodie and give him the keys to this team.

I think we need to be a little careful with Croyle at the start of this season, we don't want the entire team to quit.

Chiefaholic
08-25-2007, 03:00 PM
My God I can't believe some of you sandy vaginas. Why is this such a big suprise? Herm said he would give the job to the QB who gives them the best chance to win. At this moment in time it happens to be Huard. Croyle may be ready and step in at mid season or down the stretch but right now he's clearly not.

There are plenty of examples of QBs that waited a little while before stepping into the starting spot at QB. Tony Romo with Dallas, Phillip Rivers with the Chargers and Jay Cutler in Denver. Jake Plummer was mediocre at best and Cutler had way more potential long term but the Rat thought Cutler wasn't ready at the beginning of the season so he went with Plummer. The point is the current decision isn't set in stone and Brody will get his shot.

I agree.. Like I said, split the carries 60/40 in practive till the line gells and Brodie shows inmprovement in decision making.

Dr. Facebook Fever
08-25-2007, 03:01 PM
WOW that just shut up pretty much everyone on this board
Actually...... I predicted it... Heh.

I'll shut up now.

OnTheWarpath58
08-25-2007, 03:01 PM
My God I can't believe some of you sandy vaginas. Why is this such a big suprise? Herm said he would give the job to the QB who gives them the best chance to win. At this moment in time it happens to be Huard. Croyle may be ready and step in at mid season or down the stretch but right now he's clearly not.

There are plenty of examples of QBs that waited a little while before stepping into the starting spot at QB. Tony Romo with Dallas, Phillip Rivers with the Chargers and Jay Cutler in Denver. Jake Plummer was mediocre at best and Cutler had way more potential long term but the Rat thought Cutler wasn't ready at the beginning of the season so he went with Plummer. The point is the current decision isn't set in stone and Brody will get his shot.

It could be argued that Denver wasted a season by NOT playing Cutler right away.

There was no benefit to sitting Cutler, since they didn't make the playoffs anyway.

I'd be much more concerned about Denver this year if Cutler had more than 5 games experience.

Same with Dallas. They'd be in a much better position had they pulled the trigger earlier.

Rivers wasn't and isn't a better QB than Drew Brees. I'd be fine with Croyle sitting another year if we had a Brees-type-QB, but we don't.

OnTheWarpath58
08-25-2007, 03:04 PM
I agree.. Like I said, split the carries 60/40 in practive till the line gells and Brodie shows inmprovement in decision making.

He's made one bad decision a game.

Big deal.

I'd love to see an adjusted stat line for Brodie this PS, taking into account the dropped passes and balls he had to throw away because of coverage or pressure.

luv
08-25-2007, 03:05 PM
I'm not sure they do.

I think there are a lot of fans who want 9-7. And they won't accept any risk at all. They'd rather root for a mediocre team than a rebuilding team.
Hit the nail on the head. A lot of people are just impatient. I'm a new fan, so I still have my patience.

PunkinDrublic
08-25-2007, 03:07 PM
win now


....it's always "win now"....

sigh

That's bullshit. It's not like they're going strictly vetran on this team and benching all the young players. What about guys like Bowe who are going to get plenty of playing time and develop. What about our young defensive secondary or Turk and Tank who will most certainly be getting some valuable playing time. Just because Brody isn't going into the season as a starter doesn't mean our team has absolutely no shot at developing.

Sure-Oz
08-25-2007, 03:09 PM
I am kinda pissed about this but not so much. Maybe he will come in midseason, he just needs to develop a bit more but I wouldve liked to start him this season from the gate. We'll see how long huard lasts. Croyle HAS to be the starter next year if he isn't put in this year.

sportsman1
08-25-2007, 03:10 PM
Got the job done? How many playoff games did we win?

Did he ever get a chance at the playoff game? All I remember is Trent Green and the offense sucking it up. Just saying Huard seemed to have what it takes to pass as a qb in the NFL. Everyone else was impressed with his 5 wins as well this time last year.

ChiefsCountry
08-25-2007, 03:12 PM
Just saying Huard seemed to have what it takes to pass as a qb in the NFL.

Yeah as all the rest of the NFL was waiting to grap him up as a free agent. :rolleyes:

sportsman1
08-25-2007, 03:13 PM
Well he didnt go on the free agent market, so its hard to say noone didnt wanna take the chance. I mean come on the Dolphins are starting Trent Green after what happened last year.

PunkinDrublic
08-25-2007, 03:14 PM
It could be argued that Denver wasted a season by NOT playing Cutler right away.

There was no benefit to sitting Cutler, since they didn't make the playoffs anyway.

I'd be much more concerned about Denver this year if Cutler had more than 5 games experience.

Same with Dallas. They'd be in a much better position had they pulled the trigger earlier.

Rivers wasn't and isn't a better QB than Drew Brees. I'd be fine with Croyle sitting another year if we had a Brees-type-QB, but we don't.

Oh really were you there practice after practice to see their development and knowledge of the playbook. So you know better than guys who have won multiple Superbowls (excluding Marty).

I know watching a handful of Hard Knocks episodes makes you feel like an expert at QB development but c'mon.

Valiant
08-25-2007, 03:15 PM
And if you throw a newbie into a 'perfect situation' all you're doing is wasting the productive years of the rest of the team.


How did that work out for pittsburg a few years ago...

NUMBER7
08-25-2007, 03:16 PM
Go back and watch Hard Knocks (discussion of quarterbacks). When everyone in the room is discussing giving Brodie the starting job; Carl states in the room exactly what is going to happen. The bottom line is he has always felt Huard gives the Chiefs a better chance to win.

Sure-Oz
08-25-2007, 03:16 PM
another good reason is they may not want brodie to get killed this season. We better get some lineman next year. oh well lets see what happens, i expect many 5-10 yard routes

Valiant
08-25-2007, 03:18 PM
I'm not sure they do.

I think there are a lot of fans who want 9-7. And they won't accept any risk at all. They'd rather root for a mediocre team than a rebuilding team.


I will agree with that.. There are quite a few happy with just winning, building a team for a championship be damned...

Dr. Facebook Fever
08-25-2007, 03:19 PM
This doesn't surprise me at all. Yes Croyle has the tools... but he doesn't know how to use them yet. Huard hasn't had a good camp but he was the best we had last year. I think this was probably a very, very difficult descision for Herm and Carl. I don't have a real problem with it considering how bad we look like we could be anyway. I certainly trust Huard more than Croyle over all.

Yes I also understand the mentality of getting Croyle experience now to shorten his learning curve later.

Either QB being named the starter would have been ok with me. Herm knows a lot more about it than I do so I'll go with it. I/we have no choice anyway.

Go Chiefs.

the Talking Can
08-25-2007, 03:19 PM
That's bullshit. It's not like they're going strictly vetran on this team and benching all the young players. What about guys like Bowe who are going to get plenty of playing time and develop. What about our young defensive secondary or Turk and Tank who will most certainly be getting some valuable playing time. Just because Brody isn't going into the season as a starter doesn't mean our team has absolutely no shot at developing.

which makes my point...

we're going young at other positions, and no one is making these stupid excuses about how we can't play Page (who has been terrible in preseason!) or can't play Pollard...but not at the most important position on the team....we're playing Huard because "he gives us the best chance to win now".....

the same old 9-7 mediocre bullshit....

BigMeatballDave
08-25-2007, 03:20 PM
I'm not even saying I agree with the decision, but some of you are acting like no QB has ever sat for a year or two and ended up being a good player. Like the only way for them to get good is to throw them on the field, even if it's a bad situation for them.He has sat for a year...

Ari Chi3fs
08-25-2007, 03:21 PM
This will give Brodie some time to settle down, **** his new wife a bit, get his head on straight, wait for Huard to **** up, due to the pathetic OL we have.

Brodie will be in by game 5.

jeffery
08-25-2007, 03:22 PM
you people make me sick Damon did a pretty good job last year. you guys act like this is a permanet thing and brodie will never start another game he will in due time...obviously we are not experts or we would be coaching. the the EFFFING Herm alone. because he is an expert

Valiant
08-25-2007, 03:23 PM
Go back and watch Hard Knocks (discussion of quarterbacks). When everyone in the room is discussing giving Brodie the starting job; Carl states in the room exactly what is going to happen. The bottom line is he has always felt Huard gives the Chiefs a better chance to win.

Screw winning enough games to be .500 or barely better.. Croyle needs the experience.. Hell Aikmen sucked ass his first year, you have to give your future star the chance...


(this is only if Croyle does not get the shot after a few games scenario)
If he sucks we get great draft position and hopefully get a better shot at getting some guys who help for a championship team the next year..

If he does alright then it cements him hopefully as our starter the next 4-7 years..

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Huard gives us jack shit if he is the starter for the season, he is not future.. An 8-8 or 9-7 record that gets us a winning record or a 6th seed where we get trounced again out of the playoffs means shit...

ChiefsCountry
08-25-2007, 03:24 PM
you people make me sick Damon did a pretty good job last year.

Yeah beating up on the NFC West was so great. :rolleyes:

Sure-Oz
08-25-2007, 03:25 PM
you people make me sick Damon did a pretty good job last year. you guys act like this is a permanet thing and brodie will never start another game he will in due time...obviously we are not experts or we would be coaching. the the EFFFING Herm alone. because he is an expert
what have you been up to since the fresh prince of bel-air?

Mr. Laz
08-25-2007, 03:25 PM
This will give Brodie some time to settle down, **** his new wife a bit, get his head on straight, wait for Huard to **** up, due to the pathetic OL we have.

Brodie will be in by game 5.
yep ..... don't know about game 5, but he'll be in there at least for Green bay after the bye week.

OnTheWarpath58
08-25-2007, 03:26 PM
Oh really were you there practice after practice to see their development and knowledge of the playbook. So you know better than guys who have won multiple Superbowls (excluding Marty).

I know watching a handful of Hard Knocks episodes makes you feel like an expert at QB development but c'mon.

You're missing the point.

What did any of those other teams accomplish by NOT starting the young QB?

Absolutely nothing.

Had they started the young guys back when they'd have more experience NOW that they have a more complete team around them.

Instead, the other pieces of the puzzle are in place, but they are going through the growing pains of a young QB.

The Chiefs aren't going to the playoffs, much less a SB with Croyle, Huard or Jesus Christ himself at QB.

I guess it's much better for the future of this franchise to wait until LJ is on the wrong side of 30, Gonzo, Waters, Weigmann and Kennison are gone, etc to get the kid some experience. :rolleyes:

He plays the entire year this year, you have a better idea of what you have at QB for the future. That year of experience gives you a better chance to be successful BEFORE the above guys are gone.

Otherwise, the whole process starts over again NEXT year, still without a playoff appearance or win.

A completely wasted season.

Whoo-hoo. Everyone aboard the 8-8 train. You're conductor today is Damon Huard. Our final destination is the 2008 NFL Draft where we'll be selecting 18th overall.

Dr. Facebook Fever
08-25-2007, 03:27 PM
you people make me sick Damon did a pretty good job last year. you guys act like this is a permanet thing and brodie will never start another game he will in due time...obviously we are not experts or we would be coaching. the the EFFFING Herm alone. because he is an expert
Don't you know that we all know better than the professionals? It's not like we were screaming for Huard in the playoff game last year because he gave us the best chance to win.

Why shouldn't we now shit can the guy that saved our season last year for a totally green, unproven "rookie" who can't even get his mechanics down?

Get with the program.

Mr. Flopnuts
08-25-2007, 03:31 PM
Bingo. The last thing a young, developing QB needs is a terrible line and bad WR's. Starting Croyle now would hurt him more than it would help.



I've been saying this exact thing since the Green threads started. Croyle will be RUINED if he gets behind center of this team. We need some improvement around him if we want anything great from him.

Fairplay
08-25-2007, 03:31 PM
This will give Brodie some time to settle down, **** his new wife a bit, get his head on straight, wait for Huard to **** up, due to the pathetic OL we have.

Brodie will be in by game 5.



I agree. I hope that no one expects Brodie to be the savior behind this sad OL. Just playing experience. Getting a top ten pick in the draft next year would be cool. lol

Logical
08-25-2007, 03:32 PM
Don't you know that we all know better than the professionals? It's not like we were screaming for Huard in the playoff game last year because he gave us the best chance to win.

Why shouldn't we now shit can the guy that saved our season last year for a totally green, unproven "rookie" who can't even get his mechanics down?

Get with the program.

Because this decision is all about filling seats not winning a championship someday.

PunkinDrublic
08-25-2007, 03:34 PM
which makes my point...

we're going young at other positions, and no one is making these stupid excuses about how we can't play Page (who has been terrible in preseason!) or can't play Pollard...but not at the most important position on the team....we're playing Huard because "he gives us the best chance to win now".....

the same old 9-7 mediocre bullshit....

Now you're comparing apples and oranges. Developing a QB is completely different from a free safety or defensive lineman.

BigMeatballDave
08-25-2007, 03:36 PM
What I worry about is another 9-7 season where Huard plays OK. Its just wasting Croyle's development.

PunkinDrublic
08-25-2007, 03:37 PM
You're missing the point.

What did any of those other teams accomplish by NOT starting the young QB?

Absolutely nothing.

Had they started the young guys back when they'd have more experience NOW that they have a more complete team around them.

Instead, the other pieces of the puzzle are in place, but they are going through the growing pains of a young QB.

The Chiefs aren't going to the playoffs, much less a SB with Croyle, Huard or Jesus Christ himself at QB.

I guess it's much better for the future of this franchise to wait until LJ is on the wrong side of 30, Gonzo, Waters, Weigmann and Kennison are gone, etc to get the kid some experience. :rolleyes:

He plays the entire year this year, you have a better idea of what you have at QB for the future. That year of experience gives you a better chance to be successful BEFORE the above guys are gone.

Otherwise, the whole process starts over again NEXT year, still without a playoff appearance or win.

A completely wasted season.

Whoo-hoo. Everyone aboard the 8-8 train. You're conductor today is Damon Huard. Our final destination is the 2008 NFL Draft where we'll be selecting 18th overall.

A closer comparison would be David Carr. Hey he had a young team to develop around him. Hey how did that turnout? Romo and Rivers are both on teams that have a good mix of veterans around them. Dungver I think is overrated but I think they did the right think with Cutlers development. The point is you can develop your team without throwing the QB to the wolves and like it or not we are still building a supporting cast.

BigMeatballDave
08-25-2007, 03:38 PM
Whoo-hoo. Everyone aboard the 8-8 train. You're conductor today is Damon Huard. Our final destination is the 2008 NFL Draft where we'll be selecting 18th overall.LMAO

KCChiefsMan
08-25-2007, 03:40 PM
we did do pretty well with Huard last year

BigMeatballDave
08-25-2007, 03:40 PM
Because this decision is all about filling seats not winning a championship someday.
:clap: What he said...

SBK
08-25-2007, 03:41 PM
I think Croyle will be in by game 6. Starting his career with games at San Diego and Chicago (after playing a D2 game in Houston) are a good way to wreck his confidence.

Chicago and San Diego will each have 10+ sacks against us.....

BigMeatballDave
08-25-2007, 03:41 PM
we did do pretty well with Huard last year



Whoo-hoo. Everyone aboard the 8-8 train. You're conductor today is Damon Huard. Our final destination is the 2008 NFL Draft where we'll be selecting 18th overall.

chagrin
08-25-2007, 03:42 PM
Another Marty type decision, thanks Carl, no really, I appreciate you bringing in yet another friend of yours and disregarding all common sense.

KCChiefsMan
08-25-2007, 03:42 PM
It's Brodie's 2nd year for Christ's sake. Even Rivers didn't start till his 3rd

Tribal Warfare
08-25-2007, 03:43 PM
Well, King Carl's little hard knocks talk that he wants asses in the seats overruled Herm's opinion.

Fairplay
08-25-2007, 03:44 PM
A mother bird will push its young out of the nest to teach it to fly.

Now get out on the field Brodie.

Sure-Oz
08-25-2007, 03:45 PM
It's Brodie's 2nd year for Christ's sake. Even Rivers didn't start till his 3rd
drew brees>damon huard

keg in kc
08-25-2007, 03:45 PM
It's Brodie's 2nd year for Christ's sake. Even Rivers didn't start till his 3rd...sitting behind Drew Brees who was leading one of the league's top offenses.

suds79
08-25-2007, 03:45 PM
Huard named the starter..... :shake:

And the rebuilding term just keeps getting pushed off more & more for mediocre seasons.

With as bad as this team is, it's the perfect time to let Brodie learn on the job.

This just means we get to wait to see if Brodie is the guy next year or if we have to go QB shopping the year after that. Tack on the few years it takes for that guy to develop and we could really be looking towards a strong 2010 season.

Let's hope Huard gets pulled by week two.

greg63
08-25-2007, 03:46 PM
Herm is now officially AND IDIOT!

the Talking Can
08-25-2007, 03:46 PM
Now you're comparing apples and oranges. Developing a QB is completely different from a free safety or defensive lineman.

you're right

apparently QB's are developed on the bench....

luv
08-25-2007, 03:47 PM
Where the hell is Hootie? I wanna get the "I told you so" speech in all caps over with.

Tactical Funky
08-25-2007, 03:47 PM
Wow, I just stumbled across this announcement. :banghead:

Good gawd. No risk, no reward is usually how it goes, but the Chiefs organization doesn't seem to notice that mediocrity is simply unacceptable after so long.

This team NEEDS to rebuild but never seems to be willing to do so. Free Agency plug-ins for life. Woo hoo. :shake:

I think I may have just gotten ill...

Messier
08-25-2007, 03:47 PM
Because this decision is all about filling seats not winning a championship someday.


Yeah, it seems really popular with the fans.

the Talking Can
08-25-2007, 03:48 PM
It's Brodie's 2nd year for Christ's sake. Even Rivers didn't start till his 3rd


River's wouldn't have sat on the bench behind Damon Huard for one ****ing day.

Tribal Warfare
08-25-2007, 03:48 PM
Huard named the starter..... :shake:





I'm really pulling for a losing season now

Woodrow Call
08-25-2007, 03:48 PM
River's wouldn't have sat on the bench behind Damon Huard for one ****ing day.

Bingo

stevieray
08-25-2007, 03:48 PM
Well, King Carl's little hard knocks talk that he wants asses in the seats overruled Herm's opinion.

you do realize that season tickets are already paid for, don't you?


I was shocked when I heard the news...I really thought that the conversion to youth(QB) was finally going to happen... :shake:

The ghost of Len dawson thrives again...

Coach
08-25-2007, 03:49 PM
What a ****ing failure this organization has been. What a ****ing lack of direction/guidance this organization has been.

It's ****ing idiotic moves like this that ****ing drives me to the ****ing edge of the ****ing wall. Damon went 4-0 against the medicore ****ing NFC West, and 1-3 against decent teams. He was humiliated by Pittsburgh, and I think I saw him almost crying like a little bitch in Miami.

Also, should I mention that he had about 8 interception that were dropped by baffled defensive backs who had a "he threw it right to me?" look on their faces?

This is a ****ing disgraceful move. There's no reason to get rid of an old Pro-Bowl quarterback to start an old guy who's never had a starting gig in the NFL in his 11 years. At least if we play Brodie this year we'll know if we need to draft another QB early next year or not.

Mark my words: Chiefs fans will be calling for Damon to be benched by week 4, guaranteed. He got lucky last season, and only played well when Trent was calling his plays. Am I the only one who noticed that he played WORSE than Brodie in his two preseason appearances? He also posted a lower QB rating for christ sakes. We don't need a ****ing rocket scientist to figure that out.

What a ****ing joke of a head coach Herman ****ing Edwards is.

Dr. Facebook Fever
08-25-2007, 03:50 PM
I'm really pulling for a losing season now
Don't worry, you were going to get it either way.

Coach
08-25-2007, 03:50 PM
River's wouldn't have sat on the bench behind Damon Huard for one ****ing day.

Jesus ****ing Christ, even Croyle shouldn't have to sit on the bench behind Damon Huard for whatever reason.

Woodrow Call
08-25-2007, 03:50 PM
What a ****ing failure this organization has been. What a ****ing lack of direction/guidance this organization has been.

It's ****ing idiotic moves like this that ****ing drives me to the ****ing edge of the ****ing wall. Damon went 4-0 against the medicore ****ing NFC West, and 1-3 against decent teams. He was humiliated by Pittsburgh, and I think I saw him almost crying like a little bitch in Miami.

Also, should I mention that he had about 8 interception that were dropped by baffled defensive backs who had a "he threw it right to me?" look on their faces?

This is a ****ing disgraceful move. There's no reason to get rid of an old Pro-Bowl quarterback to start an old guy who's never had a starting gig in the NFL in his 11 years. At least if we play Brodie this year we'll know if we need to draft another QB early next year or not.

Mark my words: Chiefs fans will be calling for Damon to be benched by week 4, guaranteed. He got lucky last season, and only played well when Trent was calling his plays. Am I the only one who noticed that he played WORSE than Brodie in his two preseason appearances? He also posted a lower QB rating for christ sakes. We don't need a ****ing rocket scientist to figure that out.

What a ****ing joke of a head coach Herman ****ing Edwards is.

:clap: :holdman: :bravo:

Coach
08-25-2007, 03:50 PM
Don't worry, you were going to get it either way.

Losing season with Croyle > Losing season with Huard.

It's not even close.

NUMBER7
08-25-2007, 03:50 PM
Where the hell is Hootie? I wanna get the "I told you so" speech in all caps over with.

Most likely celebrating.

Dr. Facebook Fever
08-25-2007, 03:50 PM
Because this decision is all about filling seats not winning a championship someday.
Yea ok... no one fills the seats like the great Damon Huard.

PunkinDrublic
08-25-2007, 03:51 PM
you're right

apparently QB's are developed on the bench....

Jesus Christ man he's not ready and he doesn't have the supporting cast yet. If you started Croyle at this point it would be a David Carr situation in the making I guarantee it.

Tribal Warfare
08-25-2007, 03:52 PM
you do realize that season tickets are already paid for, don't you?



Yes, and this keeps revenue coming in for next year too if KC goes 9-7 again.

Logical
08-25-2007, 03:53 PM
you do realize that season tickets are already paid for, don't you?


I was shocked when I heard the news...I really thought that the conversion to youth(QB) was finally going to happen... :shake:

The ghost of Len dawson thrives again...This is not about this year, this is about Carl's fear that the seats won't be filled next year Stevie.

stevieray
08-25-2007, 03:54 PM
I look at it like this....

if brodie struggles, you've got a decent back up to come in....

if huard struggles, you've got an inexperienced player that you've just put behind the eight ball.

it really makes no sense...

BigMeatballDave
08-25-2007, 03:55 PM
It's Brodie's 2nd year for Christ's sake. Even Rivers didn't start till his 3rdI'd be fine with sitting Croyle til he's 30 if we had Brees...

the Talking Can
08-25-2007, 03:55 PM
Jesus Christ man he's not ready and he doesn't have the supporting cast yet. If you started Croyle at this point it would be a David Carr situation in the making I guarantee it.

you're right

Chiefs QBs are groomed in preseason...we don't let them play ACTUAL games to develop...

Cjanz
08-25-2007, 03:55 PM
I was really looking to see Croyle start, but I suppose his performance wasn't exactly top notch against the Saints.

Messier
08-25-2007, 03:55 PM
Jesus Christ man he's not ready and he doesn't have the supporting cast yet. If you started Croyle at this point it would be a David Carr situation in the making I guarantee it.


I agree. Thursday against the Saints was kind of a preview I feel. There will probably be alot of games like that this season, and if Croyle gets pummeled like that on a regular basis his career will be over before it begins.

stevieray
08-25-2007, 03:56 PM
This is not about this year, this is about Carl's fear that the seats won't be filled next year Stevie.


I think this town was ready to go through the tough times with Brodie.

Logical
08-25-2007, 03:56 PM
Yeah, it seems really popular with the fans.You realize that the passionate fans on a BB are not representative of the public in general?

BigMeatballDave
08-25-2007, 03:56 PM
Herm is now officially AND IDIOT!No, just a guttless turd...

Fairplay
08-25-2007, 03:56 PM
This is not about this year, this is about Carl's fear that the seats won't be filled next year Stevie.




Anyone know how long the wait is for season tickets are now for the Chiefs?

alanm
08-25-2007, 03:57 PM
Herm is setting up a scenario for a moment when Mrs. Brodie Croyle comes into his office in a light, wispy sundress and says, "Mistah Edwahds, mah husband Brodah jus' gotta staht. He just gotta. What cain Ah do ta make shuh that happ'ins. Ah'll do anahthang."
Reminds me of the scene in Forrest Gump where his teacher come out on the porch and tells Forrest that his Mama sure wants him to get a education and Forrest(Brodie) starts grunting. ROFL

Logical
08-25-2007, 03:57 PM
I think this town was ready to go through the tough times with Brodie.

I do to, sad that we will never develop a QB.

luv
08-25-2007, 03:58 PM
This is not about this year, this is about Carl's fear that the seats won't be filled next year Stevie.
Or he's dillusional to the point of thinking that Huard will get us to the post season.

mikey23545
08-25-2007, 03:58 PM
Man, some of you sad-ass ****ers need to get on some medication....

All Brodie had to do was not piss down his leg Thursday night and he would have been the starter. He choked like a dog swallowing a chicken bone. He'll have another shot later.

Also, I actually didn't see anywhere in that article that Edwards said he had "given up" on Croyle.

Logical
08-25-2007, 03:58 PM
Anyone know how long the wait is for season tickets are now for the Chiefs?

No wait that ended a couple of years ago. You won't get great seats right away but you can get them.

BigMeatballDave
08-25-2007, 04:00 PM
Man, some of you sad-ass ****ers need to get on some medication....

All Brodie had to do was not piss down his leg Thursday night and he would have been the starter. He choked like a dog swallowing a chicken bone. He'll have another shot later.

Also, I actually didn't see anywhere in that article that Edwards said he had "given up" on Croyle.How are dropped passes choking?

Messier
08-25-2007, 04:01 PM
Man, some of you sad-ass ****ers need to get on some medication....

All Brodie had to do was not piss down his leg Thursday night and he would have been the starter. He choked like a dog swallowing a chicken bone. He'll have another shot later.

Also, I actually didn't see anywhere in that article that Edwards said he had "given up" on Croyle.


This is true. I remember hearing it from everyone, the only thing that could unseat Croyle as the starter was a terrible performance Thursday against the Saints. Well....

PunkinDrublic
08-25-2007, 04:02 PM
you're right

Chiefs QBs are groomed in preseason...we don't let them play ACTUAL games to develop...

How's that going to help him if he doesn't have the supporting cast? It would be David Carr part II.

runnercyclist
08-25-2007, 04:02 PM
Oh ye of little faith.

Did we give up when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

Who's with me?


Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.......................

Woodrow Call
08-25-2007, 04:02 PM
Man, some of you sad-ass ****ers need to get on some medication....

All Brodie had to do was not piss down his leg Thursday night and he would have been the starter. He choked like a dog swallowing a chicken bone. He'll have another shot later.

Also, I actually didn't see anywhere in that article that Edwards said he had "given up" on Croyle.

I'd like to have seen what Damon would have done with Will Smith up his ass every play and the worst WR play I've ever seen.

Its all Croyle fault.

Coach
08-25-2007, 04:03 PM
Man, some of you sad-ass ****ers need to get on some medication....

All Brodie had to do was not piss down his leg Thursday night and he would have been the starter. He choked like a dog swallowing a chicken bone. He'll have another shot later.

Also, I actually didn't see anywhere in that article that Edwards said he had "given up" on Croyle.

**** no. Number one, Huard is freaking hurt. He has a calf strain and lets face it, he is gonna need to be mobile the way our tackles have been looking. So we take a banged up Huard and make him the starter, doesnt say much.

Two, if Croyle is/or gonna be good enough to start, let him. I am a trial be fire guy I guess, I dont wanna see him get to play because of an injury, or due to bad play. If he is supposed to be our QB of the future we need to find out now instead of in the future, letting him sit now kinda defeats the purpose, does it?

BigMeatballDave
08-25-2007, 04:04 PM
How's that going to help him if he doesn't have the supporting cast? It would be David Carr part II.I would've liked to have seen Croyle get some playing time with LJ.

Fairplay
08-25-2007, 04:04 PM
The first game on this forum against the Texans should be a hoot.

You think people are pissed now just wait.

runnercyclist
08-25-2007, 04:04 PM
So what is the QB rotation for next week? I'm guessing it will be a lot of Printers and the Prince.

Huard will start week 1 and Croyle may be the starter by the second quarter.