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Phobia
08-25-2007, 08:01 PM
So I wrote the following column Thursday night for a publication that will be sent out next week. I'm open to critiques.

Chiefs Preseason

The 2007 Kansas City Chiefs are rebuilding. If you pay attention to the Chiefs closely you've heard Carl Peterson repeatedly deny that fact. If Carl were calling all the personnel shots, Damon Huard would be the favorite quarterback to earn the starting role in Reliant Stadium for the season opener against the Texans. Based on the evidence presented by Herm Edwards, Brodie Croyle will be under center September 9th.

The Chiefs haven't successfully developed a starting quarterback since, well it really depends on your definition of “successful”. My definition would suggest they've never developed their own QB. If your definition is significantly more liberal than mine, you still have to go back to 1983's first round selection, Todd Blackledge to find a Chiefs developed QB who logged any amount of playing time for the team. For the record, Blackledge threw 26 touchdowns and 26 interceptions in 5 years with the Chiefs, hardly a “successful”development by any standard.

The point I'm trying to make is, Chief fans need to be prepared for growing pains and frequent disappointment in 2007. I'm no expert but I assure you that you won't see Tom Brady-like results out of Croyle this year. While both players sat their rookie seasons and saw (or will see) playing time in their sophomore efforts, Croyle doesn't have the personnel surrounding him to ease his insertion into the starting role. He's going to make poor decisions. He's going to be hurried into bad plays. We need to be patient and adjust our expectations of this team.

In the age of NFL parity, the difference between a 6-10 team and a 10-6 team is minuscule. While we're probably following a 6-10 squad, I wouldn't be surprised to see the Chiefs finish with the inverted record. Their defense would unquestionably lead the way if that were to occur.

I really don't think anybody can accurately predict how a team's regular season will play out simply by using preseason contests as an indicator. Bad teams have finished preseason undefeated and SuperBowl Champions have finished winless. However, I have learned a few things about the Chiefs (through the Aug 23rd Saints game – in no particular order):

1. Samie Parker can't be depended upon to catch a ball unless it's out of bounds or short of the first down marker. The Chiefs should cut their losses with this guy, but they probably won't. Fortunately, he'll be demoted far enough down the depth chart we won't be seeing much of him.
2. The two offensive tackle spots scare me. None of veterans or development prospects have distinguished themselves to date. Most preseason sacks can be traced back to a whiffed block by one of those two spots.
3. Tim Krumrie has made a huge difference in the attitude of the defensive line. Naturally, he has more talent there than his predecessor but if you've ever had the privilege of watching a Chiefs practice up close, you know that attitude is contagious.
4. The two young safeties are vastly superior athletes but they'll make mistakes along the way. Their situation isn't all that different than that of Brodie Croyle. They're all second year players subject to high expectations but they're still learning. Be prepared for the inevitable mistakes.
5. Jared Allen will be missed at Houston and Chicago. Let's hope Carl Peterson can get this kid locked up long-term during the season because he's a vital cog to this defense. While he probably isn't yet considered an elite defensive end, his playmaking ability cannot be questioned. What a steal he's been.
6. Casey Printers has proven to be a capable backup. While I don't follow the CFL, I've probably followed Printers more closely than most writers since his arrival in KC last spring. His agent sent me his highlight DVD and since watching that, I've had faith that he had the tools to develop into a capable NFL quarterback. I'm so frequently mistaken about prospects that you may see me tooting my horn when I hit on one in this space.
7. By all appearances, Kendrell Bell has been a mistake in Kansas City. But, why is he so frequently down the field in coverage? He's not a cover linebacker. Stop dropping him into coverage in passing situations. If he's not rushing into the backfield, he should be on the sidelines.
8. Just when I think a running back has the 3rd spot locked up, they do something to lose favor with the coaching staff. Priest Holmes is an absolute mystery. I won't event attempt a pontification towards his motives. Derrick Ross looks strong but can't hang onto the football. Kolby Smith seems unable to catch a ball out of the backfield. Marcus O'Keith appears to be a practice squad candidate by my estimation.
9. Kris Wilson finally looks as though he'll provide some productivity for the Chiefs. While it's strange to see #84 lined up as a fullback, he impressed with his first down carry in the Saints game.
10. How about the new linebacker corps? The two veteran additions paired with Derrick Johnson are going to provide some memorable moments this season.



All the preseason questions will be answered in the next few days. We'll be 3 games into the regular season by the time you see my next column in print. Let's hope they're on the plus side of .500 by that time.

Thig Lyfe
08-25-2007, 08:08 PM
I guess Carl's calling the shots, then.

Phobia
08-25-2007, 08:09 PM
I guess Carl's calling the shots, then.
I'm pleased to hear that reaction. It means I protected my credibility - I think.

DaFace
08-25-2007, 08:11 PM
Don't worry - you don't need an article like this to look dumb. [/middle school insult]

dj56dt58
08-25-2007, 08:17 PM
Do u really want me to answer that? :)

Skip Towne
08-25-2007, 08:20 PM
Good read. No errors I could see. Can you say who you are writing for?

Phobia
08-25-2007, 08:22 PM
Don't worry - you don't need an article like this to look dumb.
Oh, I'm well aware of that fact.

Phobia
08-25-2007, 08:23 PM
Good read. No errors I could see. Can you say who you are writing for?
The Greenwood Dispatch. It's a local monthly with a distribution of 9000.

Hoover
08-25-2007, 08:23 PM
Its a solid read. I wouldn't feel bad about predicting Croyle being the starter, I think most of us thought that would happen since we have not seen much of Huard in the preseason.

Good job.

Ultra Peanut
08-25-2007, 08:27 PM
Lee Corso has a baby arm.

Phobia
08-25-2007, 08:28 PM
Good read. No errors I could see.

Oh, BTW I'm glad to read that. I usually have a couple people edit prior to submission and this month's version is my rough.

Donger
08-25-2007, 08:31 PM
Perfunctory.

chagrin
08-25-2007, 08:32 PM
It's a good bit, I especially like the QB portion of it. It's so true, as far as I know KC hasn't even tried to draft and developed a new QB, except Blackledge - and he was a horrible choice, IMO.

That has been one of my biggest, if not my biggest concern about the Management of the franchise in the last 20+ years.

Donger
08-25-2007, 08:34 PM
Oh, BTW I'm glad to read that. I usually have a couple people edit prior to submission and this month's version is my rough.

Multiple comma errors.

Phobia
08-25-2007, 08:34 PM
Perfunctory.

Now you're just trying to piss me off.

Donger
08-25-2007, 08:35 PM
Now you're just trying to piss me off.

No, I'm really not.

Phobia
08-25-2007, 08:35 PM
Multiple comma errors.

I have little doubt. I trust the editor in chief hacked it up prior to publication. I let her know it probably wasn't up to usual standards due to the lack of eyes.

Phobia
08-25-2007, 08:36 PM
No, I'm really not.
Maybe I mistook the critique. Can you be more specific?

88TG88
08-25-2007, 08:37 PM
Lee Corso has a baby arm.
hmm I thought Lee Corso was a penis



solid article Phob

Donger
08-25-2007, 08:38 PM
Maybe I mistook the critique. Can you be more specific?

It was somewhat robotic in its tone, I suppose. It doesn't read like 'you.'

OnTheWarpath58
08-25-2007, 08:39 PM
Looked good, Phil.

Not your fault CP stuck his nose where it doesn't belong.....

Phobia
08-25-2007, 08:42 PM
It was somewhat robotic in its tone, I suppose. It doesn't read like 'you.'

You're right. I've been cognizent of not inserting too much personality into my articles too soon. These readers don't know a thing about my personality so I'm trying not to beat them over the head with my silliness factor too soon.

the Talking Can
08-25-2007, 08:43 PM
You're not dumb.

You got suckered by Carl like we all did.

We thought Carl wanted to be something other than a mediocrity loving coward. We were wrong.

We thought Herm had cojones. We were wrong.

We thought Chiefs fan were ready to take a risk after 13 years of abject failure. We were wrong.

Phobia
08-25-2007, 08:44 PM
Oh yeah, I removed this "prediction" from the final draft " I don't realistically expect him to make it onto the 53 man roster this year, so the point is probably moot." I'm not certain enough about that and I don't want wishful thinking to rule my predictions.

Donger
08-25-2007, 08:46 PM
You're right. I've been cognizent of not inserting too much personality into my articles too soon. These readers don't know a thing about my personality so I'm trying not to beat them over the head with my silliness factor too soon.

I would, if I were you. You have an effervescent personality. Let it show in your writing.

Oh, and you spelled cognizant incorrectly.

Manila-Chief
08-25-2007, 08:50 PM
Good article. Croyle let you down. One too many interceptions, I guess.

Phobia
08-25-2007, 08:51 PM
Heh. Okay, I'll let it through more next month. I know how to spell cognizant (I actually searched the archives for verification). My fingers took over that time.

Donger
08-25-2007, 08:55 PM
Heh. Okay, I'll let it through more next month. I know how to spell cognizant (I actually searched the archives for verification). My fingers took over that time.

I will look forward to it. I doubt that it will disappoint. The above was very solid. Use your personality and sell it.

mikey23545
08-25-2007, 09:32 PM
A team isn't serious about rebuilding unless they start 22 rookies and deliberately lose 16 games.

keg in kc
08-25-2007, 09:34 PM
A team isn't serious about winning unless they start veterans over rookies. Rookies mean losing. Veterans mean winning. Especially come playoff time.

milkman
08-25-2007, 09:34 PM
I would, if I were you. You have an effervescent personality.

Do you want us to leave you and Phil alone?

milkman
08-25-2007, 09:35 PM
It is a good article, Phil.

Skip Towne
08-25-2007, 09:41 PM
Do you want us to leave you and Phil alone?
That's just Donger looking for attention..............again.

Donger
08-25-2007, 09:48 PM
Do you want us to leave you and Phil alone?

Just a statement of opinion.

Donger
08-25-2007, 09:50 PM
That's just Donger looking for attention..............again.

Perhaps you missed this request?

I'm open to critiques.

What do you think of the piece?

Skip Towne
08-25-2007, 09:53 PM
Perhaps you missed this request?



What do you think of the piece?
I liked it. I did see a couple of syntax errors but they did not alter the content so I did not mention them.

Donger
08-25-2007, 09:58 PM
I liked it. I did see a couple of syntax errors but they did not alter the content so I did not mention them.

Indeed. And my biggest beef with the piece was that Phobia wasn't 'being Phobia,' hence my comment. His personality seems to 'sell' well here, why not sell it elsewhere?

I don't see how any logical person could conclude that my giving Phobia a requested critique equals me 'looking for attention.'

Skip Towne
08-25-2007, 10:02 PM
Indeed. And my biggest beef with the piece was that Phobia wasn't 'being Phobia,' hence my comment. His personality seems to 'sell' well here, why not sell it elsewhere?

I don't see how any logical person could conclude that my giving Phobia a requested critique equals me 'looking for attention.'
It's because you came to the board knowing nothing about football. And you're not even local. You seem to exist going from thread to thread looking to argue. I see you have made an attempt, lately, to try to talk football. Good for you.

Phobia
08-25-2007, 10:08 PM
I liked it. I did see a couple of syntax errors but they did not alter the content so I did not mention them.

I'd be interested in correcting future mistakes.

Phobia
08-25-2007, 10:09 PM
It's because you came to the board knowing nothing about football. And you're not even local. You seem to exist going from thread to thread looking to argue. I see you have made an attempt, lately, to try to talk football. Good for you.

This is why I like you. Even though you can be a dick, you don't become rooted in your agendas.

Donger
08-25-2007, 10:10 PM
It's because you came to the board knowing nothing about football. And you're not even local. You seem to exist going from thread to thread looking to argue. I see you have made an attempt, lately, to try to talk football. Good for you.

If you are concerned, go back and look. I grew up in KC. I've mentioned this many times to you before. I fully and openly admit that I know relatively little about football, and that is one of the reasons I like this site. It has taught me plenty. I have posted on, and started, many football threads, for that very reason. This isn't secret information; look it up if it concerns you.

I understand that you are bitter about me, for whatever reason. I don't really know why, and I don't particularly care. You would be more interesting if you were more accurate. Since you're not, you're nothing more to me than something sticky that I occasionally have to pull off my shoe.

StcChief
08-25-2007, 10:13 PM
Phil, Good choice of words. I think we've known for a long time CARL calls the shots there, it's a business and filling seats is more important. Projecting a winner is better than projecting a iffy team.

Skip Towne
08-25-2007, 10:15 PM
If you are concerned, go back and look. I grew up in KC. I've mentioned this many times to you before. I fully and openly admit that I know relatively little about football, and that is one of the reasons I like this site. It has taught me plenty. I have posted on, and started, many football threads, for that very reason. This isn't secret information; look it up if it concerns you.

I understand that you are bitter about me, for whatever reason. I don't really know why, and I don't particularly care. You would be more interesting if you were more accurate. Since you're not, you're nothing more to me than something sticky that I occasionally have to pull off my shoe.
You don't amount to that much to me. I'm not the first to call you argumentative.

Donger
08-25-2007, 10:19 PM
You don't amount to that much to me. I'm not the first to call you argumentative.

I am argumentative. But, there was nothing on this thread that would lead any rational person to conclude that.

Phobia asked for a critique and I gave it. He can take it or leave it.

Phobia
08-25-2007, 10:22 PM
This is hilarious. Donger is agreeing with nearly every barb Skip tosses his way. What is the issue again?

Donger
08-25-2007, 10:25 PM
This is hilarious. Donger is agreeing with nearly every barb Skip tosses his way. What is the issue again?

I'm argumentative. You got a problem with that? Do you? Huh!?

Skip's just pissed that I'm so 'argumentative,' I had to inform him that he really doesn't live in a 'seaport.' That's all.

Or, perhaps it's that I have more 100 post threads than he does.

Rain Man
08-25-2007, 10:35 PM
It's because you came to the board knowing nothing about football. And you're not even local. You seem to exist going from thread to thread looking to argue. I see you have made an attempt, lately, to try to talk football. Good for you.


Actually, he is local. He lives right here in Colorado.

Skip Towne
08-25-2007, 10:41 PM
I'm argumentative. You got a problem with that? Do you? Huh!?

Skip's just pissed that I'm so 'argumentative,' I had to inform him that he really doesn't live in a 'seaport.' That's all.

Or, perhaps it's that I have more 100 post threads than he does.
About the best way I can put it is with a match play golf match. Let's say you go out and beat a guy 10-8. The sporting thing to do is mark it on the board as a win 1 up. You get the win but you don't embarrass the other guy. I read Phob's article and noticed a couple of errors but they didn't affect the content of the article. So I didn't mention them. You, OTOH, noticed comma placement errors. They didn't affect the content either but you had to mention them to show how smart you are. I beat him 1 up. You beat him 10-8. It's called tact.

Donger
08-25-2007, 11:08 PM
About the best way I can put it is with a match play golf match. Let's say you go out and beat a guy 10-8. The sporting thing to do is mark it on the board as a win 1 up. You get the win but you don't embarrass the other guy. I read Phob's article and noticed a couple of errors but they didn't affect the content of the article. So I didn't mention them. You, OTOH, noticed comma placement errors. They didn't affect the content either but you had to mention them to show how smart you are. I beat him 1 up. You beat him 10-8. It's called tact.

I presumed that Phobia wouldn't mind an honest and accurate assessment, since he asked. I wasn't thinking about 'beating him' at all, since I didn't consider it a contest.

It's apparent that you have a massive chip on your shoulder, but you really shouldn't assume that others have the same.

elvomito
08-26-2007, 12:04 AM
Phobia, would you consider making a torrent of the Casey Printers highlight dvd available?

Chan93lx50
08-26-2007, 01:21 AM
Ehhh Gochiefs could have done better! ;)

Redcoats58
08-26-2007, 03:40 AM
Good read Phobia.

Otter
08-26-2007, 05:12 AM
As far as content I liked it Phil. I'm not a grammatical (case in point) expert myself but I think the content is more important than nit picking on where commas are placed.

Donger :D I know that's your personality and that's cool.

One suggestion I would offer, you have a lot of personality, don't be afraid to add some of that to future article content. It could make the difference between sounding like a instruction manual and an article that was written by someone who is involved and familar with the team.

Really liked the fact that you didn't fail to address the QB problem that's been lingering for years and you claimed the article being your own for better or worse.

I honestly don't know a team on the east coast that would tolerate being a ass smooch for Peterson and hiding behind a fake name like Rufus Dufus does in every article he's published.

Given the state of the team I'm literaly at an all time low with the decision not to find out what Brodie can do given the opportunity and again, thanks for addressing the matter.

My Sundays are going to be spent fly fishing this season. I really no longer care at this point.

Bob Dole
08-26-2007, 05:43 AM
My Sundays are going to be spent fly fishing this season. I really no longer care at this point.

Wood hippy.

htismaqe
08-26-2007, 06:03 AM
Concise, well-written article.

Too bad the content is out-of-date. :D

Phobia
08-26-2007, 07:34 AM
Phobia, would you consider making a torrent of the Casey Printers highlight dvd available?
I passed it along to another media member, sorry.

Phobia
08-26-2007, 07:38 AM
Thanks for all your comments, for better or worse. I was worried about the dated content and what I'm hearing is that you guys either think I worded it well or can't be held accountable for what happened.

NUMBER7
08-26-2007, 07:46 AM
Phobia, nice piece...I especially liked the statement,
"Bad teams have finished preseason undefeated and SuperBowl Champions have finished winless." At least we have some hope.

htismaqe
08-26-2007, 07:48 AM
Thanks for all your comments, for better or worse. I was worried about the dated content and what I'm hearing is that you guys either think I worded it well or can't be held accountable for what happened.

Exactly, on both counts.

patteeu
08-26-2007, 09:08 AM
Thanks for all your comments, for better or worse. I was worried about the dated content and what I'm hearing is that you guys either think I worded it well or can't be held accountable for what happened.

I agree. No need to worry on that count.

HypnotizedMonkey
08-26-2007, 09:23 AM
If i had 3 or 4 aging Grandmothers... this is exactly what it would be like.


Good job on the article.

stevieray
08-26-2007, 09:24 AM
Only in the thread title.

Mr. Laz
08-26-2007, 10:48 AM
How dumb do I look now?
normal amount :shrug:

















:p

ChiefaRoo
08-26-2007, 04:00 PM
I like Phobia. If Skip wasn't already my pet I'd like Phobia to be. Who's the good boy? Phobia is, yes he is. Fetch!

Phobia
08-26-2007, 10:21 PM
I like Phobia. If Skip wasn't already my pet I'd like Phobia to be. Who's the good boy? Phobia is, yes he is. Fetch!

Do you ever post anything that does not include your fantasies about Skip?

Deberg_1990
08-26-2007, 10:30 PM
Any chance Kendrell Bell gets cut?

Phobia
08-26-2007, 10:34 PM
Any chance Kendrell Bell gets cut?
I just don't see who replaces him at this point. For some reason Gunther still gives him opportunities. I just wish he'd start putting him in on running or blitz downs only.

Deberg_1990
08-26-2007, 10:36 PM
I just don't see who replaces him at this point. For some reason Gunther still gives him opportunities. I just wish he'd start putting him in on running or blitz downs only.


Agreed. Stop trying to put a square peg in a round hole.

Good article BTW.

I agree with everything. I just wish they would have started Croyle, but hopefully he will get his chance soon enough.

Phobia
11-25-2007, 12:16 PM
Wow. That guy's analysis is really spot on throughout. Brilliant.

StcChief
11-25-2007, 12:36 PM
So far just wish Croyle would have started by the GB game

ChiefButthurt
11-25-2007, 01:41 PM
Toot toot goes the horn.

Phobia
11-25-2007, 01:43 PM
Toot toot goes the horn.
If you people would remember and bump it, I wouldn't have to toot my own horn. What is wrong with you guys? I have a limited readership. I'm depending on you people to remember the few times I'm smart.