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C-Mac
08-29-2007, 08:24 AM
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/chiefs/story/251562.html
Drummond gives Chiefs a veteran return threat
By JASON KING
The Kansas City Star

Eddie Drummond (right) wants to help out at wide receiver, but his biggest value to the Chiefs is returning kicks. The emcee requested that no one ask for autographs.

But as Eddie Drummond lingered outside a Hyatt Regency Crown Center ballroom Tuesday, the Chiefs’ new return specialist hardly seemed pestered by the throng of fans pleading for his signature on footballs, jerseys and helmets.

“I’m actually enjoying all this,” Drummond said after the team’s annual kickoff luncheon. “It feels great to have a fresh start. It feels great to be wanted again.”

Drummond hardly felt that a way a week ago. Less than 72 hours before he signed with the Chiefs on Sunday, Detroit Lions officials summoned Drummond into an office to tell him he’d been released.

Strange as it seemed to outsiders, the move wasn’t all that shocking to Drummond, who said his practice reps had decreased dramatically since Detroit changed special-teams coaches after last season.

“Let’s just say I didn’t exactly shed any tears,” Drummond said. “They had put in a whole new scheme up there. This was probably best for everyone that I move on.”

The Chiefs certainly aren’t complaining. The team seemed destined to open the season with an inexperienced return specialist following the offseason trade of Dante Hall.

Now, with Drummond, the Chiefs boast a player who may be even better than his predecessor.

During 2004-06, Drummond ranked first, 21st and eighth, respectively, in the NFL in punt-return average. Hall was eighth, 20th and 18th during that same span.

Drummond has also ranked among the league’s top five kickoff returners in two of the last five seasons. He made the Pro Bowl following a 2004 campaign that saw him tie an NFL record with four combined returns for touchdowns (two kickoffs and two punts).

A more straightforward runner, Drummond said it’d be a mistake to compare him to the shifty, elusive Hall, who is now with St. Louis.

“Just the opposite,” Drummond said. “I’ve got more of a running-back type of mentality. I’m going to make two moves, break a couple of tackles, and I’m gone. I’m not a guy that loses a lot of ground and then tries to gain it back, so you’re not going to see runs that last long. You’re going to see a lot of quick runs that break out.”

Another one of Drummond’s strengths is that he plays on all the special-teams units. When he’s not returning kicks and punts, Drummond said he’ll be contributing on the Chiefs’ coverage units.

That, coach Herm Edwards said, was one of the main reasons Kansas City signed the 5-foot-9, 190-pound Drummond.

“He’s a core guy,” Edwards said. “He’s done everything you can ask a guy to do on special teams as well as return.”

That apparently wasn’t good enough for Detroit. Lions coach Rod Marinelli said one of the main reasons Drummond was released was because he didn’t want to keep four players — including the kicker, punter and holder — who contributed solely on special teams.

Drummond, who doubles as a receiver, had hoped to play a bigger factor in the Lions’ offense. But he fell out of the good graces of offensive coordinator Mike Martz last season.

Lions president Matt Millen tried to trade Drummond during training camp but eventually released him when he couldn’t work out a deal. Marinelli told reporters in Detroit that the two sides parted on good terms.

“I didn’t want to keep waiting,” Marinelli said. “We’ve got to be fair to him, too. I thought (releasing Drummond) was the fair thing to do. He’s been a good player here. It’s nothing about him. He’s a heck of a returner.”

Drummond said Pittsburgh, Denver and Tampa Bay inquired about his services the same day he was cut by the Lions. Kansas City, though, seemed like the best fit.

Drummond attended Penn State and spent a summer rooming with Chiefs running back Larry Johnson. And Chiefs special teams coach Mike Priefer is the son of Chuck Priefer, who coached Detroit’s special teams before leaving after last season.

“Chuck Priefer was awesome,” Drummond said. “If (Mike) is anything like that then they’re going to have a special situation here.”

Drummond signed a one-year contract with Kansas City, but he hopes his time with the Chiefs extends well beyond 2007. He said he hopes to eventually work his way into the rotation at receiver, which could earn him a longer contract.

But for now Drummond is focused on bringing back the success the Chiefs once enjoyed in their return game with Hall.

“Usually I don’t get too excited during the preseason,” Drummond said, “but I can’t wait to play St. Louis Thursday.”

Inexperienced return specialists such as Ean Randolph and Justin Phinisee have shown promise this preseason. Drummond, though, doesn’t sound too concerned with anyone who may be behind him on the depth chart.

To lose his spot as a starter, Drummond said, he’d have to get in Thursday’s preseason finale and “try to screw something up.”

Drummond smiles.

“Hopefully,” he said, “nothing like that will happen.”

StcChief
08-29-2007, 08:36 AM
Bring it Eddie D.... starts with one in STL on their turf.

talastan
08-29-2007, 08:44 AM
A battle of Return specialist!! Will KC be able to stop Hall? Will the lambs be able to stop Drummond? Tune in same Chiefs time, same Chiefs channel. Tomorrow night.

BigChiefFan
08-29-2007, 08:45 AM
Nice move, Chiefs.

the Talking Can
08-29-2007, 08:48 AM
good pick up

siberian khatru
08-29-2007, 08:49 AM
A more straightforward runner, Drummond said it’d be a mistake to compare him to the shifty, elusive Hall, who is now with St. Louis.
“Just the opposite,” Drummond said. “I’ve got more of a running-back type of mentality. I’m going to make two moves, break a couple of tackles, and I’m gone. I’m not a guy that loses a lot of ground and then tries to gain it back, so you’re not going to see runs that last long. You’re going to see a lot of quick runs that break out.”

:clap:

Frosty
08-29-2007, 08:55 AM
he didn’t want to keep four players — including the kicker, punter and holder

So, Detroit keeps a guy just to hold? :spock: I'm thinking maybe he meant snapper.

I like this move. Drummond is an excellent returner and can be a reasonable receiver.

Woodrow Call
08-29-2007, 09:12 AM
Sounds like my type of returner. :clap:

talastan
08-29-2007, 09:15 AM
Wow running upfield through you blocking wedge. What a concept?! :clap:

htismaqe
08-29-2007, 09:16 AM
Another building block for our 9-7 season.

Redrum_69
08-29-2007, 09:19 AM
The Media always says what people like to hear


the real question is...how many pit bulls has he killed in the last 6 months?

Simply Red
08-29-2007, 09:25 AM
The Media always says what people like to hear


the real question is...how many pit bulls has he killed in the last 6 months?
Here I was all expecting a "Deep threat" mom joke. :(

StcChief
08-29-2007, 09:30 AM
Another building block for our 9-7 season.
Same Sh1t Different Decade.

Redrum_69
08-29-2007, 09:30 AM
Here I was all expecting a "Deep threat" mom joke. :(


Nah...players are now measured on ruthlessness...how many dogs they killed...how many times they have been arrested...how many dui's they have...etc


and of course how many people they killed.


In a few years...there will be an Off-season Fantasy Football league that will cover all arrests and other ways players make news during the offseason.

Simply Red
08-29-2007, 09:37 AM
Nah...players are now measured on ruthlessness...how many dogs they killed...how many times they have been arrested...how many dui's they have...etc


and of course how many people they killed.


In a few years...there will be an Off-season Fantasy Football league that will cover all arrests and other ways players make news during the offseason.
Put down the mouse and go get Redrum_69 please!

Redrum_69
08-29-2007, 09:40 AM
Put down the mouse and go get Redrum_69 please!


its funny you should mention that

El Jefe
08-29-2007, 09:55 AM
I love this move, Drummond is a above average returner, and sometimes down right spectacular. He can also complement our recieving corp very well, in the games I have watched of him, he is a solid #3 reciever. He is a whole lot better than Samie is.

KCChiefsFan88
08-29-2007, 10:01 AM
Looks like this is an admission by Dictator Carl that he made a massive error in trading away Dante Hall without having a proven return man to replace.

boogblaster
08-29-2007, 10:04 AM
He's got to be a improvement over what we have so far .....

TEX
08-29-2007, 10:13 AM
He's got to be a improvement over what we have so far .....

He is, but he's not better than Hall. So, we basically got Drummond + a late pick for Hall which is good.

Messier
08-29-2007, 10:15 AM
Looks like this is an admission by Dictator Carl that he made a massive error in trading away Dante Hall without having a proven return man to replace.


And yet things turned out great don't you think? We get a 5th for Hall, and then get a returner that might be better.

Great job by Carl. Right KCChiefsfan88?

StcChief
08-29-2007, 10:31 AM
King Carl works it out sometimes.

Millen just releasing Drummond from DET.....

no wonder they are the bottom of their Division/Conference yearly.

RustShack
08-29-2007, 10:35 AM
He is, but he's not better than Hall. So, we basically got Drummond + a late pick for Hall which is good.

I would have rather had Drummond last year than Hall.

SNR
08-29-2007, 10:39 AM
Another building block for our 9-7 season.Are you actually suggesting we draft and groom our own kick returner like we did Hall? :spock:

The Bad Guy
08-29-2007, 10:53 AM
So the Chiefs should have ignored a guy who's had success, is young enough to be around a while?

I don't get why someone would criticize this move.

It's almost like some of you really want to just go 0-16.

John_Wayne
08-29-2007, 11:03 AM
I like this:

A more straightforward runner, Drummond said it’d be a mistake to compare him to the shifty, elusive Hall, who is now with St. Louis.

“Just the opposite,” Drummond said. “I’ve got more of a running-back type of mentality. I’m going to make two moves, break a couple of tackles, and I’m gone. I’m not a guy that loses a lot of ground and then tries to gain it back, so you’re not going to see runs that last long. You’re going to see a lot of quick runs that break out.”

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He sounds more like the Vanover style. I really liked Vanover until he turned into a thug.

htismaqe
08-29-2007, 11:15 AM
Are you actually suggesting we draft and groom our own kick returner like we did Hall? :spock:

Nope.

This is a great move, really.

But I just can't get excited about a team that's still going nowhere, despite making this move...

Bob Dole
08-29-2007, 11:49 AM
It's almost like some of you really want to just go 0-16.

That would make for some great fun this winter!

Sure-Oz
08-29-2007, 11:49 AM
So the Chiefs should have ignored a guy who's had success, is young enough to be around a while?

I don't get why someone would criticize this move.

It's almost like some of you really want to just go 0-16.
I don't either, i would rather have him back there then some scrub that has no clue how to handle returns and fumbles here and there.

Mr. Laz
08-29-2007, 12:31 PM
yep ...... cause a veteran returner is exactly what you need on a team in a rebuilding youth movement.

htismaqe
08-29-2007, 12:34 PM
yep ...... cause a veteran returner is exactly what you need on a team in a rebuilding youth movement.

A true youth movement isn't conducive to winning 9 games and crawling into the playoffs...

Micjones
08-29-2007, 12:41 PM
The young guys got every opportunity to lock up the return duties.
None of them, according to the Staff, were good enough.

Youth doesn't always constitute more talent.

And a youth movement doesn't have to consist solely of young players.
After all, who better to groom them a few veterans sprinkled throughout the roster?

Drummond isn't a better returnman than Hall, but I think his return style is more conducive to consistency there.

HypnotizedMonkey
08-29-2007, 12:46 PM
Matt Millen is losing his mind.... and we're reaping all the benefits.... (sinister grin, hides behind curtain)

Nightfyre
08-29-2007, 12:47 PM
Field Position football requires a consistently good returner. Dante Hall was a great fit for the Vermeil Era. He could make huge plays that could be game shattering (and were.) However, I think Drummond is a better fit for the Edwards scheme.

Jmo.

htismaqe
08-29-2007, 12:48 PM
The young guys got every opportunity to lock up the return duties.
None of them, according to the Staff, were good enough.

Youth doesn't always constitute more talent.

And a youth movement doesn't have to consist solely of young players.
After all, who better to groom them a few veterans sprinkled throughout the roster?

Drummond isn't a better returnman than Hall, but I think his return style is more conducive to consistency there.

Gotta get to the playoffs!

The Bad Guy
08-29-2007, 12:55 PM
Looks like this is an admission by Dictator Carl that he made a massive error in trading away Dante Hall without having a proven return man to replace.

Only you would spin this into a negative Carl Peterson-PR move.

He traded away Dante because he was a whiner and had a big base salary.

We signed Drummond for half of what Dante Hall would have cost this year and received a 5th, but you want to spin this as a anti-Carl thing.

You have an obsession with Carl Peterson.

HypnotizedMonkey
08-29-2007, 01:03 PM
Only you would spin this into a negative Carl Peterson-PR move.

He traded away Dante because he was a whiner and had a big base salary.

We signed Drummond for half of what Dante Hall would have cost this year and received a 5th, but you want to spin this as a anti-Carl thing.

You have an obsession with Carl Peterson.


he's right.

htismaqe
08-29-2007, 01:05 PM
he's right.

No, really he's not.

We basically traded an ineffective kick returner for a more effective return man and 5th-round draft pick.

It's a good move.

Sure-Oz
08-29-2007, 01:16 PM
27 yr old effective kr and a 5th rnd pick, i dont see the issues, and i dont see how this hurts our youth movement.

dumbass argument

SNR
08-29-2007, 01:16 PM
So the Chiefs should have ignored a guy who's had success, is young enough to be around a while?

I don't get why someone would criticize this move.

It's almost like some of you really want to just go 0-16.No kidding. Is moving up ten or so places in the draft really going to give us that much more of an edge for years to come? :shake:

htismaqe
08-29-2007, 01:18 PM
No kidding. Is moving up ten or so places in the draft really going to give us that much more of an edge for years to come? :shake:

Of course not. But it COULD.

Which would be DIFFERENT from the last 18 years. That's all some of us are looking for -- real, tangible change.

Of course, the risk is that there's empty seats at Arrowhead. And we all know how Carl feels about that.

The Bad Guy
08-29-2007, 01:26 PM
Matt Millen is losing his mind.... and we're reaping all the benefits.... (sinister grin, hides behind curtain)

Thank you, Jon Lovitz.

siberian khatru
08-29-2007, 01:28 PM
27 yr old effective kr and a 5th rnd pick, i dont see the issues, and i dont see how this hurts our youth movement.

dumbass argument

Interestingly, Drummond is 2 years younger than Dante. So, we ARE getting younger. :D

TEX
08-29-2007, 01:29 PM
Field Position football requires a consistently good returner. Dante Hall was a great fit for the Vermeil Era. He could make huge plays that could be game shattering (and were.) However, I think Drummond is a better fit for the Edwards scheme.

Jmo.

How? Is he gonna run up someone's butt in the wedge?

'Hamas' Jenkins
08-29-2007, 01:33 PM
We got Tank Tyler out of the Dante deal as well. Let's not forget that.

And if you believe Hard Knocks, he should be our ROTY