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The Rick
08-30-2007, 11:01 AM
The very first time I read the name "Ron Paul" was on this very board. As a Christian, I consider myself a conservative Republican. I was pretty disheartened by the list of Republican candidates...until I began to learn more about Ron Paul. He's quickly becoming my candidate of choice. The more I read, the more I like.
I do have a question though. I absolutely understand and agree with his opinions on how it's not our job to police the world, and how we'd be better served to mind our own business for the most part in regards to our military.
What I'd like to see or hear though, are his thoughts on providing aid to foreign countries. Goodwill such as food, healthcare, etc. Not that it's going to entirely influence my decision, mainly just curious.
Does anyone know?
Taco John
08-30-2007, 11:12 AM
The very first time I read the name "Ron Paul" was on this very board. As a Christian, I consider myself a conservative Republican. I was pretty disheartened by the list of Republican candidates...until I began to learn more about Ron Paul. He's quickly becoming my candidate of choice. The more I read, the more I like.
I do have a question though. I absolutely understand and agree with his opinions on how it's not our job to police the world, and how we'd be better served to mind our own business for the most part in regards to our military.
What I'd like to see or hear though, are his thoughts on providing aid to foreign countries. Goodwill such as food, healthcare, etc. Not that it's going to entirely influence my decision, mainly just curious.
Does anyone know?
Rick, glad to see another Christian waking up to Ron Paul. It seems like every day we see a new person on this board posting questions and just discovering his candidacy. Others will try to tell you that he's not a viable candidate, but don't believe them. They're locked into what the world is telling them. Listen to Ron Paul, and listen to your heart. You don't need the media to tell you who is worthy of your vote.
I'm a big fan of Ron Paul and have listened to virtually every interview that he's had (you can find just about every one of them, no matter how obscure at www.ronpaulaudio.com). To answer your question, Ron Paul thinks that we should take care of the problems in America before we start trying to fix the problems of the world. He believes that if Americans had a significantly lesser tax burden, and the government operated within its strict Constitutional mandate, that Americans would have more money to donate to things like missionary causes and other third world outreach coming from the private sector. In Ron Paul's vision, it's not the role of the government to take money from the American worker in order to give as foriegn aid to other nations, as that creates insustainable International welfare.
Here is a very good interview with Ron Paul where, among other things, he addresses Humanitarian dilemmas vs Non-Intervention policy (http://www.ronpaulaudio.com/rpaudio/RonPaulLauraKnoyNewHampshirePublicRadio.mp3). It's definitely worth a listen.
BucEyedPea
08-30-2007, 11:21 AM
Mega Rep to you The Rick
I doubt Paul supports foreign aid to other countries as a conservative libertarian. Americans are generous enough to give for foreign humanitarian purposes and they do. In fact the total donations to the tsunami in Indonesia exceeded all the govt forced (taxed) ones from all of Europe by orders of magnitude. Unfortunately I don't have those numbers anymore and don't feel like re-googling them. I just remember it.
patteeu
08-30-2007, 11:52 AM
No foreign aid. Neo-isolationist means neo-isolationist, damnit. :p LMAO
patteeu
08-30-2007, 11:54 AM
You could do a lot worse than Ron Paul, The Rick. And if you're for capitulating in the GWoT (may God have mercy on you), you certainly can't do any better than the good doctor.
BucEyedPea
08-30-2007, 12:10 PM
You could do a lot worse than Ron Paul, The Rick. And if you're for capitulating in the GWoT (may God have mercy on you), you certainly can't do any better than the good doctor.
I thought you didn't believe in God?
I'm sure The Rick is not a neo-imperialist or neo-colonist conservative either.
BucEyedPea
08-30-2007, 12:12 PM
No foreign aid. Neo-fascism means neo-fascism, damnit. :p LMAO
FYP ROFL
Taco John
08-30-2007, 12:27 PM
You could do a lot worse than Ron Paul, The Rick. And if you're for capitulating in the GWoT (may God have mercy on you), you certainly can't do any better than the good doctor.
Ron Paul isn't for backing out of the war on terror. Ron Paul is in favor of focusing on it. What he's not in favor of is open ended wars with no objectives or plans for victory like yourself and other people who have invested our future in America's defeat in Iraq.
Remember, Ron Paul voted in favor of a vote to declare war on Iraq if we were going to war there, and winning that war swiftly. He wasn't in favor of soft-in-the-loafer proposals that didn't set clear objectives for victory, and thus extend on to long and lose the support of Americans.
Ron Paul isn't for backing out of the war on terror. Ron Paul is in favor of focusing on it. What he's not in favor of is open ended wars with no objectives or plans for victory like yourself and other people who have invested our future in America's defeat in Iraq.
Remember, Ron Paul voted in favor of a vote to declare war on Iraq if we were going to war there, and winning that war swiftly. He wasn't in favor of soft-in-the-loafer proposals that didn't set clear objectives for victory, and thus extend on to long and lose the support of Americans.Declaring war = neoisolationism = imperial Japan = Yamamoto, Nazi alliance, and nation full of tiny penises.
It's soooooooooooo obvious!
BucEyedPea
08-30-2007, 01:13 PM
LMAO
Pitt Gorilla
08-30-2007, 01:21 PM
Should it be the federal government's responsibility to help other nations?
The Rick
08-30-2007, 01:25 PM
Thanks guys...I thought that was the case and that answers my question. I'm OK with that answer too. A smaller government that puts less of tax burden on its citizens would result in more giving from those with a desire to give.
I'm not saying this necessarily as a blatant endorsement for Ron Paul, but I think the country in general is ready for a change...the type of change that Ron Paul represents: smaller government, smaller taxes, fiscal responsibility, civil liberties, etc.
Most important, I think the country in general is ready for a politician who consistently bases his position on core values and the basis of which our country was founded as opposed to being influenced by anything else.
Taco John
08-30-2007, 02:15 PM
Most important, I think the country in general is ready for a politician who consistently bases his position on core values and the basis of which our country was founded as opposed to being influenced by anything else.
You said a mouthful there Rick. The thing about Ron Paul is that he's not going to flounder or flip flop on issues based on how he thinks one constituency or the other is going to react. He's going to base his decisions on firm Constitutional footing, and let the chips fall where they may.
You're not going to see Ron Paul capitulating to corporate interests, or being influenced by trade unions. But because of that, he's not going to get the kind of dollars that the other Republicans or Democrats will see.
It's going to take a movement of the people to take back the Whitehouse. Ron Paul's campaign represents that movement. I hope you'll continue to consider his campaign, and if you buy on, I hope you "buy on" by sending the movement a contribution. I've committed myself to $20 bucks a month. I know Ron will spend it wisely.
Ron Paul is the only candidate I have ever actively campaigned for or made a contribution to. (Even though my contributions/campaigning are very minimal.) It's so refreshing to finally hear a presidential candidate that you know is sincerely committed to upholding the U.S. Constitution. What a noble concept, and what a great human being.
I think that if private charities had been the ones on the forefront after Katrina (and many were) that whole rebuilding effort wouldn't be such a complete joke.
The gov't sucks at that stuff, private sector charities should be where our donations come from. Not some "buy us off" bounties given out by our "thinking of my voters" politicians.
Should it be the federal government's responsibility to help other nations?
Depends on what "help out" means.
BigChiefDave
09-03-2007, 10:14 AM
The more I hear from this man, the more I wanna give him my vote...
Hydrae
09-03-2007, 10:36 AM
The more I hear from this man, the more I wanna give him my vote...
For once there is truely a man of the people running for POTUS. This is unique in my experience.
patteeu
09-03-2007, 11:58 AM
For once there is truely a man of the people running for POTUS. This is unique in my experience.
Wasn't Ron Paul a man of the people in 1988, the last time he ran for POTUS (or are you too young to consider that your experience, possibly)?
Hydrae
09-03-2007, 12:10 PM
Wasn't Ron Paul a man of the people in 1988, the last time he ran for POTUS (or are you too young to consider that your experience, possibly)?
Not too young, too stoned to pay attention to things like politics in those days. I honestly had no idea he had run before.
patteeu
09-03-2007, 12:13 PM
Not too young, too stoned to pay attention to things like politics in those days. I honestly had no idea he had run before.
He ran as the Libertarian candidate that year. I wasn't aware of it at the time either, fwiw.
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