Next VP?

[Frankie]

Aside from the characters already running for POTUS who do you think are legitimate possibilities for #2 on either ticket? Why?

[Frankie]

Nobody has done their homework?

[patteeu]

Let's see...

Dick Cheney says he's ready to go back to private life so he's out...

...

Nope, can't think of anyone. Sorry.

[HolmeZz]

Let's see...

Dick Cheney says he's ready to go back to private life so he's out...

Every 8 years he migrates north to lay his eggs.

[Adept Havelock]

Every 8 years he migrates north to lay his eggs.

Huh. You learn something new everyday.

I thought he reproduced asexually like all other bacteria.

[Taco John]

Nobody has done their homework?



Homework? Who even cares at this point?

It's like you're on the way to the strip club with some buddies, and someone asks what kind of pretzels we're going to eat once we get there. "F---, I don't know... Who cares?"

I mean, we talk about some stupid stuff on this board, but there are still *some* standards.

Homework... Vice president... :rolleyes:

[Frankie]

I think out of the current Dem non-potus candidates Wesley Clark and Evan Bayh might get serious consideration.

And yes, I find it interesting to speculate. All I'm asking is what do you know about someone's political resume that might qualify him/her.

[Taco John]

Clinton and Obama are going to battle it out on the floor of the Democratic National Convention. The winner will get the presidency, the loser will be selected by the delegates as the Vice President. It'll be a Clinton/Obama ticket or an Obama/Clinton ticket. Political reality will trump personal choice in the matter.

I can't believe people can't see this, but even Chris Matthews last night said that was a ticket that nobody expects. How can that be? It's obvious even a year out.

[Adam]

I can't believe people can't see this, but even Chris Matthews last night said that was a ticket that nobody expects. How can that be? It's obvious even a year out.

Chris Matthews is a Democrat. Naturally he wants it to be an "exciting surprise" when Obama is selected as Hillary's VP.

[patteeu]

Clinton and Obama are going to battle it out on the floor of the Democratic National Convention. The winner will get the presidency, the loser will be selected by the delegates as the Vice President. It'll be a Clinton/Obama ticket or an Obama/Clinton ticket. Political reality will trump personal choice in the matter.

I can't believe people can't see this, but even Chris Matthews last night said that was a ticket that nobody expects. How can that be? It's obvious even a year out.

I agree. It seems fairly obvious.

Has Obama said much about the Hsu fundraising deal that Hillary is tangled up in yet? I haven't heard much more than mild criticism of Hillary coming from the Obama camp for a few weeks now although I admit I don't follow the Obama camp that closely.

[oldandslow]

I agree. It seems fairly obvious.

Has Obama said much about the Hsu fundraising deal that Hillary is tangled up in yet? I haven't heard much more than mild criticism of Hillary coming from the Obama camp for a few weeks now although I admit I don't follow the Obama camp that closely.

No he hasn't.

John Edwards has been the attack dog from the left.

It is just one of the reasons why I believe HRC is going to get the nomination and Obama will probably be the VP.

[Hog Farmer]

Obama being President or VP is not good. He is head of a sleeper cell awaiting jihad.

[stevieray]

I think they did a great job in that Progressive Insurance commercial.

[Adept Havelock]

Obama being President or VP is not good. He is head of a sleeper cell awaiting jihad.

No big deal. He's only targeting pork-producers.

[Frankie]

Clinton and Obama are going to battle it out on the floor of the Democratic National Convention. The winner will get the presidency, the loser will be selected by the delegates as the Vice President. It'll be a Clinton/Obama ticket or an Obama/Clinton ticket. Political reality will trump personal choice in the matter.

I can't believe people can't see this, but even Chris Matthews last night said that was a ticket that nobody expects. How can that be? It's obvious even a year out.
I would like Obama as a VP under Gore but not under Clinton. I think the Dems realize that a ticket without a traditional white mail will not be elected. It's sad, but true.

[patteeu]

Who: Someone from this list (http://www.nga.org/portal/site/nga/menuitem.42b929b1a5b9e4eac3363d10501010a0/?vgnextoid=d54c8aaa2ebbff00VgnVCM1000001a01010aRCRD&vgnextfmt=curgov)

Why: Because they are governors. They don't have the high profile voting issues that a Senator or US Rep would have to defend. Someone selected off this list would presumably be popular in their home state and that home state (or region) would be one that the candidate wanted to put into play or lock up.

Here's a modified idea for this thread. How about people pick one candidate and then pick a reasonable choice for VP from this list of current governors.

I think Rudy Giuliani could do worse than picking Haley Barbour (http://www.nga.org/portal/site/nga/menuitem.29fab9fb4add37305ddcbeeb501010a0/?vgnextoid=67bc224971c81010VgnVCM1000001a01010aRCRD&vgnextchannel=d54c8aaa2ebbff00VgnVCM1000001a01010aRCRD) for his running mate. Barbour is a solid conservative from the south and he earned quite a bit of praise during the Katrina episode. I don't know what kind of baggage Barbour would bring.

[Taco John]

With apologies to Frankie, it turns out this conversation might actually be relevant (though not to me at this point)...



Republicans Considering Franks


Four-star veep



Three of the eight announced 2008 Republican presidential campaigns are considering retired Army Gen. Tommy Franks as their pick for vice presidential candidate, according to Republican Party operatives.



Gen. Franks, commander of U.S. Central Command until he retired in 2003, orchestrated the military campaign that ousted Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein.



The choice of Gen. Franks as vice president would be a direct affront to antiwar Democrats, who plan to make opposition to the Bush administration's handling of the war the main plank of their campaign platforms.



A staunch Republican, Gen. Franks hails from Oklahoma but considers Texas his home state. Having him on the ticket would boost Republican prospects in the must-win Lone Star state.



The sources, who are well placed in Republican circles, did not identify the campaigns that are considering Gen. Franks. They said Gen. Franks' consideration also is based on his potential to draw votes in the South, and his role as an eloquent spokesman for winning the global war against Islamist extremism.



All Democratic candidates overtly oppose the Iraq war and most favor ending the Bush administration's military and paramilitary emphasis on fighting global terrorism. A Democratic administration in 2009 likely would restore the approach of the Clinton administration, which favored law enforcement and diplomacy over military action.



Gen. Franks has been a target of liberals, including several journalists whose books criticized him for a lack of post-invasion planning, and for being close to former Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld, who backed and probably influenced Gen. Franks' Iraq war plan. That plan used smaller, flexible and speedier combined forces instead of large, massed ground troops.

Franks, who could not be reached for comment, stated in a 2006 speech that 35 years of military service showed him "no war is ever fought on time."


"Wars are always started too early or they're always started too late and it is unfortunate for the soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines who have to do the work in accordance with our Constitution," he said. "But you know what: We have a way, we have a history sometimes in spite of ourselves in this country, of winning the wars we start and this one will be no exception. America will get this done."

http://washingtontimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070831/NATION04/108310069/1008

[patteeu]

Republicans Considering Franks

He'd be a strong running mate for any pro-victory candidate who isn't a veteran, IMO.

[BIG_DADDY]

I would like Obama as a VP under Gore but not under Clinton. I think the Dems realize that a ticket without a traditional white mail will not be elected. It's sad, but true.


How come you never get shit for saying that?

[patteeu]

How come you never get shit for saying that?

Because he prefaced it by saying "I would like Obama as a VP under Gore" which makes him one of "them" where "them" is the group of people who always give you shit about it when you say something like that. Just a guess.

[Frankie]

I predict if Hillary gets the nomination her VP will be..... (Drumroll)...................................................






............former Virginia Governor Mark Warner.




















http://www.valleyleaguebaseball.com/Images/ForArticles/1245.jpg

I was actually trying to remember this guy from last year making very Prez-candidate-like speech appearances. Everybody was talking him up and speculating he would run, then he mysteriously dropped out before anybody announced their candidacy.

[patteeu]

I predict if Hillary gets the nomination her VP will be..... (Drumroll)...................................................






............former Virginia Governor Mark Warner.




I was actually trying to remember this guy from last year making very Prez-candidate-like speech appearances. Everybody was talking him up and speculating he would run, then he mysteriously dropped out before anybody announced their candidacy.

Good. Maybe that will mean that Virginia's soon-to-be-open Senate seat will be retained by the Republicans (and hopefully a more reliable Republican at that).

[HonestChieffan]

a Hillary Obama ticket is a Republican dream team. Obama would simply destroy her opportunity to be elected dead in place.

[Frankie]

Good. Maybe that will mean that Virginia's soon-to-be-open Senate seat will be retained by the Republicans (and hopefully a more reliable Republican at that).
Huh? What does that have to do with Virginia's former Gov?!

[go bowe]

Obama being President or VP is not good. He is head of a sleeper cell awaiting jihad.that's right...

hussein osama won't want the vp job...

he's young enough to try for the presidency again, at some point in the future...

as far as the sleeper cell stuff, you might be joking, but we need to keep a close eye on people with arabic/muslin names...

you never know when they might blow up the next building or burn repubicans at the stake (or maby just leave them in front of that nifty ray gun with the power switch glued down)...

[Frankie]

that's right...

hussein osama won't want the vp job...

he's young enough to try for the presidency again, at some point in the future...

as far as the sleeper cell stuff, you might be joking, but we need to keep a close eye on people with arabic/muslin names...

you never know when they might blow up the next building or burn repubicans at the stake (or maby just leave them in front of that nifty ray gun with the power switch glued down)...
ROFL

[a1na2]

Ahnold for Pres. Who cares about VP?

[Frankie]

I predict if Hillary gets the nomination her VP will be..... (Drumroll)......................................former Virginia Governor Mark Warner.

Runner up: Wesley Clark
2nd Runner up: Bill Richardson

[patteeu]

Huh? What does that have to do with Virginia's former Gov?!

He's the odds-on favorite to win the Virginia Senate seat that John Warner is about to vacate. I figure that if he's running for VP, the dems will have to get someone less attractive to run for the Senate which would probably mean that the Republicans would retain it.

[Frankie]

He's the odds-on favorite to win the Virginia Senate seat that John Warner is about to vacate. I figure that if he's running for VP, the dems will have to get someone less attractive to run for the Senate which would probably mean that the Republicans would retain it.
Thanks for the clarification. How many Warners are in Virginia?!

[patteeu]

Thanks for the clarification. How many Warners are in Virginia?!

I hadn't even noticed that both of them were named Warner until you said this. That's interesting. I wonder if they are related at all.