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CoMoChief
08-30-2007, 09:10 PM
Good god it's getting to the point where I would rather have Hackett running this PoS offense.

This is the worst Chiefs offense I have seen in God knows how long.

Wanna know how to stop the Chiefs from ever scoring?
- Put 8 people in the box. We never throw the ball past the first down marker anyways so who gives a ****?!?!

cdcox
08-30-2007, 09:17 PM
Preseason. It's not like we ran this offense in the playoff game...

Oh, wait, yes we did.

kcfanintitanhell
08-30-2007, 09:21 PM
Can an OC be fired during the season? I don't believe this guy has the slightest clue even after a year.

MGRS13
08-30-2007, 09:21 PM
Wanna know how to stop the Chiefs from ever scoring?
Give them the ball?

FAX
08-30-2007, 09:26 PM
Cheer up, Mr. CoMoChief. At least we don't have to watch that stupid, circus offense any more.

We have the new, county fair, taffy-pulling offense.

FAX

Reerun_KC
08-30-2007, 09:36 PM
Well everyone was so stoked that Herm was coming to revive the defense and he wasnt going to mess with the offense..... ROFL...

Welcome to Hermie shit ball... Funny part about it all was watching Chiefs fans dog NYJ fans for them coming to our board to warn us... We acted like we stole their coach and they were thrilled to give him to us for a 4th... I guess our high and almight 14 year playoff drought looked really tough...

And you wonder why the NYJ fans were glad to see him go... We are eating crow and they can tell us they told us so... We have been so pwned!

milkman
08-30-2007, 09:44 PM
Cheer up, Mr. CoMoChief. At least we don't have to watch that stupid, circus offense any more.

We have the new, county fair, taffy-pulling offense.

FAX

I think that probably should be "Johnson Pulling".

Ugly Duck
08-30-2007, 09:47 PM
This is the worst Chiefs offense I have seen in God knows how long.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=168866

ptlyon
08-30-2007, 09:50 PM
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=168866

Ha Ha. Best thing to know is we play you twice UD.

dj56dt58
08-30-2007, 09:51 PM
I'd take DV any day. At least you knew they had a chance to win every game, and it was fun to watch every game regardless of the outcome and I looked forward to each and every Sunday, where now I already dread them

SNR
08-30-2007, 09:54 PM
One season of playoffs, a shitty preseason and that's all Herm gets?

I realize Missouri is the Show Me State, but I didn't realize the deadline was so strangling.

Give the offense some time. We'll be good next year.

Micjones
08-30-2007, 09:54 PM
There was no reason for him to make such alterations to this offense. The defense is what needed fixing.

Bad front office work is finally coming back to haunt this football team.

Ugly Duck
08-30-2007, 09:56 PM
Ha Ha. Best thing to know is we play you twice UD.Raiders 1st team looking good against Seattle in the 1st quarter.... up only 7-0 because we had some scrub attempt an easy field goal. Mike Williams is looking really good. Buncha scrubs in for the 2nd quarter...

Reerun_KC
08-30-2007, 09:56 PM
One season of playoffs, a shitty preseason and that's all Herm gets?

I realize Missouri is the Show Me State, but I didn't realize the deadline was so strangling.

Give the offense some time. We'll be good next year.

And for some, he was never welcome here anyway...

Count Alex's Losses
08-30-2007, 09:56 PM
Preseason. I urge you, no I BEG YOU, to shut the **** up.

ptlyon
08-30-2007, 09:56 PM
One season of playoffs, a shitty preseason and that's all Herm gets?


Yes. He sucks. At least admit it. He doesn't want to win games, for whatever ****ing reason I do not know.

Count Alex's Losses
08-30-2007, 09:57 PM
There was no reason for him to make such alterations to this offense.

Are you a ****ing moron?

Dick Vermeil's vaunted offense collapsed because of TALENT ISSUES. Not Herm.

Direckshun
08-30-2007, 09:57 PM
I think it'll change after a few games, but Croyle is looking entirely like a bust.

Reerun_KC
08-30-2007, 09:58 PM
Are you a ****ing moron?

Dick Vermeil's vaunted offense collapsed because of TALENT ISSUES. Not Herm.


Herm's vaunted playoff game plan and adjustmets collapsed because he is a moron, not because of the players on the field...

ptlyon
08-30-2007, 09:58 PM
Raiders 1st team looking good against Seattle in the 1st quarter.... up only 7-0 because we had some scrub attempt an easy field goal. Mike Williams is looking really good. Buncha scrubs in for the 2nd quarter...


We will see when we play each other. Last few years have been entertaining. We will see how bad our coach sucks tho...

KcMizzou
08-30-2007, 09:59 PM
I think it'll change after a few games, but Croyle is looking entirely like a bust.He looked scared tonight.

Needs to get his confidence back.

Reerun_KC
08-30-2007, 09:59 PM
I think it'll change after a few games, but Croyle is looking entirely like a bust.


I agree, he really doesnt have a fair chance.. look at the coaches he is surrounded by....

TN_Chief
08-30-2007, 10:00 PM
We'll be good next year.Ah, yes...the motto of the loser. "Just wait until next year". You might want to familiarize yourself with the Chicago Cubs and the Boston Red Sox and how well that little nugget worked out for them.

EDIT

BTW...Herm isn't getting "one year and the preseason". Those of us who've paid attention saw what Herm did with the Jets. They trended down every season he was there, and the only reason they were any good when he got there was that Parcells had left things in decent shape. It's not like Herm just materialized in KC...he's got a track record.

Spott
08-30-2007, 10:00 PM
Well everyone was so stoked that Herm was coming to revive the defense and he wasnt going to mess with the offense..... ROFL...

Welcome to Hermie shit ball... Funny part about it all was watching Chiefs fans dog NYJ fans for them coming to our board to warn us... We acted like we stole their coach and they were thrilled to give him to us for a 4th... I guess our high and almight 14 year playoff drought looked really tough...

And you wonder why the NYJ fans were glad to see him go... We are eating crow and they can tell us they told us so... We have been so pwned!

These threads are pretty funny to read now.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=145822

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=145560

milkman
08-30-2007, 10:00 PM
There was no reason for him to make such alterations to this offense. The defense is what needed fixing.

Bad front office work is finally coming back to haunt this football team.

The offensive line is the only reason that offense was any good.

Other than Gonzalez, there wasn't any reliable receiver.

Priest was talented, but he would not have put up the numbers that he did behind the inferior line that is on the field now.

LJ's productivity decreased behind the line last year.

With Roaf's retirement, the O-Line began it's decline, and by extention, the offense.

Ugly Duck
08-30-2007, 10:01 PM
We will see when we play each other. Last few years have been entertaining. We will see how bad our coach sucks tho...

I'm tellin' ya... Kid Kiffin is the next Gruden - he's got this team playing like they belong in the NFL. Oakland is no longer a "gimme"

kcfanintitanhell
08-30-2007, 10:02 PM
I think it'll change after a few games, but Croyle is looking entirely like a bust.

Yea, could be, but I think the fallout from Huard being named starter could have contributed. Jeezuz-I hope so, cuz from what I heard he better hope that he doesn't wind up on the PS.

milkman
08-30-2007, 10:03 PM
Herm's vaunted playoff game plan and adjustmets collapsed because he is a moron, not because of the players on the field...

You're right about Herman ****ing Edwards, but the fact is, if the O-Line hadn't began deteriorating at the same time, smashmouth with LJ would have been very effective.

ptlyon
08-30-2007, 10:04 PM
I'm tellin' ya... Kid Kiffin is the next Gruden - he's got this team playing like they belong in the NFL. Oakland is no longer a "gimme"

YA YA

Reerun_KC
08-30-2007, 10:05 PM
These threads are pretty funny to read now.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=145822

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=145560


OMG, those are actually freaking funny... Classic threads that should be bumped.... Guys calling NYJ fans Trolls, etc.... Bashing them telling them Herm is the best coach at this, that and they are just bitter fans.... LMAO...

MY God Chiefs fans looked like total toolbox's the way they were stroking off Herm...

How pathetic has or team, fans and organization become? So desperate we were praising the hire of Herm... ROFL....

FAX
08-30-2007, 10:05 PM
He looked scared tonight.

Needs to get his confidence back.

I can't really blame him, Mr. KcMizzou. Herm might as well load him into a cannon and shoot his ass into a pile of razor wire.

FAX

Reerun_KC
08-30-2007, 10:07 PM
I can't really blame him, Mr. KcMizzou. Herm might as well load him into a cannon and shoot his ass into a pile of razor wire.

FAX

ROFL....

Can Herm control the clock and field position that way?

Valiant
08-30-2007, 10:08 PM
Ah, yes...the motto of the loser. "Just wait until next year". You might want to familiarize yourself with the Chicago Cubs and the Boston Red Sox and how well that little nugget worked out for them.

EDIT

BTW...Herm isn't getting "one year and the preseason". Those of us who've paid attention saw what Herm did with the Jets. They trended down every season he was there, and the only reason they were any good when he got there was that Parcells had left things in decent shape. It's not like Herm just materialized in KC...he's got a track record.



Uhh?? We have been saying that for 19 years and counting... Trust me Carl and the Hunts will get the message when the sellouts end..

Fish
08-30-2007, 10:08 PM
http://pizdaus.com/pics/BPiUvgVmBKFU.jpg

Hooray despair!

Count Alex's Losses
08-30-2007, 10:08 PM
I'm tellin' ya... Kid Kiffin is the next Gruden - he's got this team playing like they belong in the NFL. Oakland is no longer a "gimme"

Shut the **** up.

Reerun_KC
08-30-2007, 10:09 PM
Uhh?? We have been saying that for 19 years and counting... Trust me Carl and the Hunts will get the message when the sellouts end..


9-7 will keep the butts in the stands....

dirk digler
08-30-2007, 10:12 PM
Damn we only scored 32 whole points in 4 freaking games. I remember 2 years ago we averaged 32 pts a game.

Of course it is preseason so our savior QB is going to save us against Houston along with LJ.

dj56dt58
08-30-2007, 10:16 PM
Are you a ****ing moron?

Dick Vermeil's vaunted offense collapsed because of TALENT ISSUES. Not Herm.
Talent? That offense was full of scrubs from other teams that fit perfectly in DVs system. Even if Edwards had ever player DV had it still wouldn't be that great because of Edwards style of play on offense. DV would still have this offense in the top 10 if he was here. Granted the Defense would suck but at least this team would be competitive.

Count Alex's Losses
08-30-2007, 10:17 PM
DV would still have this offense in the top 10 if he was here.

:shake:

Oh my god. I cannot believe this argument is still being presented.

KC Tattoo
08-30-2007, 10:19 PM
Roaf retired

The Bad Guy
08-30-2007, 10:22 PM
Herm's vaunted playoff game plan and adjustmets collapsed because he is a moron, not because of the players on the field...

You were never willing to give him a shot to begin with, so I don't know why you would ever start now.

I think the preseason is the most overrated tool in the NFL for fans to watch. I don't watch the preseason because it's fluff and bullshit. It's like going to the opening auditions of a play and proclaiming how good or bad the play is going to be.

People get far too worked up over preseason football. I root for one thing in the preseason: zero injuries. If that happens, it's a success.

Redcoats58
08-30-2007, 10:25 PM
Well everyone was so stoked that Herm was coming to revive the defense and he wasnt going to mess with the offense..... ROFL...

Welcome to Hermie shit ball... Funny part about it all was watching Chiefs fans dog NYJ fans for them coming to our board to warn us... We acted like we stole their coach and they were thrilled to give him to us for a 4th... I guess our high and almight 14 year playoff drought looked really tough...

And you wonder why the NYJ fans were glad to see him go... We are eating crow and they can tell us they told us so... We have been so pwned!
I dont know who you speak of but I sure as shit wasnt excited when I learned they hired Herm.

ChiefEd
08-30-2007, 10:25 PM
Amen!

The Bad Guy
08-30-2007, 10:25 PM
Talent? That offense was full of scrubs from other teams that fit perfectly in DVs system. Even if Edwards had ever player DV had it still wouldn't be that great because of Edwards style of play on offense. DV would still have this offense in the top 10 if he was here. Granted the Defense would suck but at least this team would be competitive.

Do you get dizzy?

I bet you do.

Scrubs? DV had arguably the greatest offensive line in NFL history to build his offense around. Willie Roaf was the MVP of this team because of his ability to completely shitbeat any DE around him. He was the ultimate security blanket.

Vermeil hardly had scrubs at positions that mattered in his offense. QB, LT, TE, RB.

Vermeil's team gave us ZERO playoff wins. I'm willing to see how this alternative works out.

Fish
08-30-2007, 10:26 PM
Talent? That offense was full of scrubs from other teams that fit perfectly in DVs system. Even if Edwards had ever player DV had it still wouldn't be that great because of Edwards style of play on offense. DV would still have this offense in the top 10 if he was here. Granted the Defense would suck but at least this team would be competitive.

:shake:

wow... that's just.... wow....

ChiefEd
08-30-2007, 10:27 PM
. I root for one thing in the preseason: zero injuries. If that happens, it's a success.


Amen!


That's what I meant..

Ugly Duck
08-30-2007, 10:27 PM
Damn we only scored 32 whole points in 4 freaking games. I remember 2 years ago we averaged 32 pts a game.

This is probably the one time that you should listen to GoatCheese. Most of the game was played by scrubs that won't be on the team. Thats why they call it "preseason." Only the time when your #1s played their #1s means anything at all... which doesn't amount to much anyway...

KcMizzou
08-30-2007, 10:29 PM
This is probably the one time that you should listen to GoatCheese. Most of the game was played by scrubs that won't be on the team. Thats why they call it "preseason." Only the time when your #1s played their #1s means anything at all... which doesn't amount to much anyway...Niether team had many starters in tonight.

It's bad, but it aint THAT bad.

blaise
08-30-2007, 10:34 PM
Tim Donaghy had 5 G's on the game.

Simplex3
08-30-2007, 10:39 PM
Preseason. I urge you, no I BEG YOU, to shut the **** up.
When they still suck out loud after game 4 will YOU STFU?

TEX
08-30-2007, 10:42 PM
:shake:

Oh my god. I cannot believe this argument is still being presented.

Why not. Because YOU didn't write it? Tell us again how good Croyle is.

Redcoats58
08-30-2007, 10:42 PM
Were people seriously expecting us to be good this year? I was under the impression we are rebuilding. Did that just fly out the window when the preseason started?

TEX
08-30-2007, 10:43 PM
Damn we only scored 32 whole points in 4 freaking games. I remember 2 years ago we averaged 32 pts a game.

Of course it is preseason so our savior QB is going to save us against Houston along with LJ.

Nothing can save us from Herm's vision. :shake:

KcMizzou
08-30-2007, 10:44 PM
Were people seriously expecting us to be good this year? I was under the impression we are rebuilding. Did that just fly out the window when the preseason started?Yeah... People are all about rebuilding until the quality of play declines.

It's to be expected. Especially with a fan base as rabid as ours.

dirk digler
08-30-2007, 10:44 PM
I am willing to give this offense a chance. I mean through the whole pre season we were missing our QB, LT and RB.

88TG88
08-30-2007, 10:45 PM
wow

The planet is in full crisis lockdown tonight

Simplex3
08-30-2007, 10:45 PM
Were people seriously expecting us to be good this year? I was under the impression we are rebuilding. Did that just fly out the window when the preseason started?
I was prepared for the Chiefs to suck. No problems there.


HOWEVER, I wasn't prepared for them to suck while the young guys sat on the bench rotting and we trotted career backups out to try and eek out an extra couple of wins. F**k that.

Redcoats58
08-30-2007, 10:45 PM
Yeah... People are all about rebuilding until the quality of play declines.

It's to be expected. Especially with a fan base as rabid as ours.
Yeah thats true.

KcMizzou
08-30-2007, 10:46 PM
I was prepared for the Chiefs to suck. No problems there.


HOWEVER, I wasn't prepared for them to suck while the young guys sat on the bench rotting and we trotted career backups out to try and eek out an extra couple of wins. F**k that.I COMPLETELY agree with you there.

If we're gonna suck anyway... PLAY THE YOUNG GUYS!

Redcoats58
08-30-2007, 10:46 PM
I was prepared for the Chiefs to suck. No problems there.


HOWEVER, I wasn't prepared for them to suck while the young guys sat on the bench rotting and we trotted career backups out to try and eek out an extra couple of wins. F**k that.
Oh I agree with you there, I want Croyle to start also, he needs to be in there.

KcMizzou
08-30-2007, 10:48 PM
That's what'll happen...

If Huard goes out there, and we're pretty good... we'll play out the season and hope for a playoff spot.

If we lose 3 of the first 4, it's Croyle time.

TEX
08-30-2007, 10:49 PM
Were people seriously expecting us to be good this year? I was under the impression we are rebuilding. Did that just fly out the window when the preseason started?

Let's look at that question for a minute. Didn't we upgrade at every position where we added players? Didn't we draft pretty well? The only place where we lost something on paper is a Guard and some feel that Welbourn is only a slight drop off from how Shields played last year. So, why then would we be worse?

Possible Answer: Because it's Herm year 2 ?

Count Alex's Losses
08-30-2007, 10:51 PM
Real answer: Chiefs fans love to bitch.

chiefsfan1963
08-30-2007, 10:51 PM
I'd take DV any day. At least you knew they had a chance to win every game, and it was fun to watch every game regardless of the outcome and I looked forward to each and every Sunday, where now I already dread them


:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

chiefsfan1963
08-30-2007, 10:52 PM
One season of playoffs, a shitty preseason and that's all Herm gets?

I realize Missouri is the Show Me State, but I didn't realize the deadline was so strangling.

Give the offense some time. We'll be good next year.

I'm glad you realize that all we have to look forward to this season is next year's draft what took you? :)

chiefsfan1963
08-30-2007, 10:54 PM
There was no reason for him to make such alterations to this offense. The defense is what needed fixing.

Bad front office work is finally coming back to haunt this football team.

So when is CP and his group going to leave? 2 more seasons?

Come on KC fans who live in KC start protesting Carl must GO! Carl must Go! Don't stop until he leaves!

chiefsfan1963
08-30-2007, 10:57 PM
Raiders 1st team looking good against Seattle in the 1st quarter.... up only 7-0 because we had some scrub attempt an easy field goal. Mike Williams is looking really good. Buncha scrubs in for the 2nd quarter...


Raiders could sweep us this year! Pretty sad to have to wait for this to ultimately happen, but it's coming soon. Kinda get the feeling how one must feel on death row.

chiefsfan1963
08-30-2007, 10:58 PM
I think it'll change after a few games, but Croyle is looking entirely like a bust.

ANy good QB's available in next year's draft we'll have a Top 5?

TEX
08-30-2007, 11:00 PM
Real answer: Chiefs fans love to bitch.

True. But Herm does $UCK.

chiefsfan1963
08-30-2007, 11:01 PM
Do you get dizzy?

I bet you do.

Scrubs? DV had arguably the greatest offensive line in NFL history to build his offense around. Willie Roaf was the MVP of this team because of his ability to completely shitbeat any DE around him. He was the ultimate security blanket.

Vermeil hardly had scrubs at positions that mattered in his offense. QB, LT, TE, RB.

Vermeil's team gave us ZERO playoff wins. I'm willing to see how this alternative works out.


keep kidding yourself........... :shake:

chiefsfan1963
08-30-2007, 11:03 PM
I was prepared for the Chiefs to suck. No problems there.


HOWEVER, I wasn't prepared for them to suck while the young guys sat on the bench rotting and we trotted career backups out to try and eek out an extra couple of wins. F**k that.


Are you prepared for KC to get the #1 pick in next year's draft?

Count Alex's Losses
08-30-2007, 11:03 PM
keep kidding yourself........... :shake:

Keep kidding YOURself. In one year, Herm Edwards accomplished what it took Dick FIVE YEARS to do.

KcMizzou
08-30-2007, 11:04 PM
Are you prepared for KC to get the #1 pick in next year's draft?Hell yes. Beats 7-9.

OnTheWarpath58
08-30-2007, 11:10 PM
Keep kidding YOURself. In one year, Herm Edwards accomplished what it took Dick FIVE YEARS to do.

No shit. With way less talent.

Why are people bitching and moaning. This was the 4th PS game.

For God's sake, our 4th string QB played 75% of the game.

People get WAY too ****ing uptight over a meaningless game.

DaneMcCloud
08-30-2007, 11:12 PM
Oh I agree with you there, I want Croyle to start also, he needs to be in there.

Yeah, Croyle's really proved during this preseason that he should be the starting QB of the Chiefs football team. :rolleyes:

dirk digler
08-30-2007, 11:12 PM
Keep kidding YOURself. In one year, Herm Edwards accomplished what it took Dick FIVE YEARS to do.

Cmon gochiefs in 2005 the CHiefs were 10-6 and were a fluke for not getting into the playoffs.

This was basically DV's team minus Roaf but we gained Ty Law.

DaneMcCloud
08-30-2007, 11:13 PM
Real answer: Chiefs fans love to bitch.

Quoted for truth.

MyChiefConcern
08-30-2007, 11:14 PM
The problem is that the offense, for all Herm's talk of a youth movement, hasn't really gotten all that much younger. We're still old, the offense looks incredibly predictable and disorganized, which is a combo that I would have never thought possible. We have no fullback, we have no WRs outside of our aging TE and an even older WR who, while vastly underrated during his time in KC, is going to start backsliding eventually.

This offense is a trainwreck waiting to happen. Last year's playoff game should have tipped even the most rabid Chiefs fan off to that little bit of info. The cries of "it's the preseason" just ring incredibly hollow to me. If this offense was going to be effective in the least, it would have scored more than one touchdown in the entire f*cking 4 games.

Damien McIntosh is not Willie Roaf, no matter how badly some want that to be the case. He's not going to make that much of a difference, people.

It's not like any of us are going to stop supporting the team completely, and you're kidding yourself if you think you will. Let go of your season tickets? Maybe. But you'll still tune in, and your thoughts will still be directed towards 1 Arrowhead Drive every Sunday.

But a 3-13 season wouldn't be the worst thing to happen to this franchise.

Brian Brohm, come on down.

OctoberFart
08-30-2007, 11:14 PM
Preseason. I urge you, no I BEG YOU, to shut the **** up.
The only thing that this preseason proved is that you are a terrible talent evaluator and just write fluff articles. I have been saying all offseason that KC will suck this year on Offense and you guys just said I was being a troll. Enjoy the bottom of AFC west.

chiefsfan1963
08-30-2007, 11:15 PM
Keep kidding YOURself. In one year, Herm Edwards accomplished what it took Dick FIVE YEARS to do.

again keep kidding yourself....


if you think the Chiefs last year getting to the playoffs was an accomplishment after the abortion they presented when they actually played. there is no use arguing with you.

that might be the all time worst performance by a playoff team ever!

DV is just plain better.

Bearcat
08-30-2007, 11:15 PM
I play against the Chicago D in my fantasy league in week 2. That sucks.

DaneMcCloud
08-30-2007, 11:16 PM
Enjoy the bottom of AFC west.

We know you're used to it so thanks for the welcome!

chiefsfan1963
08-30-2007, 11:17 PM
No shit. With way less talent.

Why are people bitching and moaning. This was the 4th PS game.

For God's sake, our 4th string QB played 75% of the game.

People get WAY too ****ing uptight over a meaningless game.


we'll check back with you a little later in the season.....

perhaps then you'll finally get it.

Ugly Duck
08-30-2007, 11:18 PM
Raiders could sweep us this year! Pretty sad to have to wait for this to ultimately happen, but it's coming soon. Kinda get the feeling how one must feel on death row.

Buck up... remember this - Oakland is just barely rejoining the NFL again after a total joke of a season.... Chiefs are just now dipping down to our level. Our games will be a total toss-up.

chiefsfan1963
08-30-2007, 11:19 PM
The problem is that the offense, for all Herm's talk of a youth movement, hasn't really gotten all that much younger. We're still old, the offense looks incredibly predictable and disorganized, which is a combo that I would have never thought possible. We have no fullback, we have no WRs outside of our aging TE and an even older WR who, while vastly underrated during his time in KC, is going to start backsliding eventually.

This offense is a trainwreck waiting to happen. Last year's playoff game should have tipped even the most rabid Chiefs fan off to that little bit of info. The cries of "it's the preseason" just ring incredibly hollow to me. If this offense was going to be effective in the least, it would have scored more than one touchdown in the entire f*cking 4 games.

Damien McIntosh is not Willie Roaf, no matter how badly some want that to be the case. He's not going to make that much of a difference, people.

It's not like any of us are going to stop supporting the team completely, and you're kidding yourself if you think you will. Let go of your season tickets? Maybe. But you'll still tune in, and your thoughts will still be directed towards 1 Arrowhead Drive every Sunday.

But a 3-13 season wouldn't be the worst thing to happen to this franchise.

Brian Brohm, come on down.


welcome aboard. Now how do we get rid of CP and Herm sooner?

MyChiefConcern
08-30-2007, 11:25 PM
welcome aboard. Now how do we get rid of CP and Herm sooner?

It's just not going to happen, brother. It's simple economics. Carl Peterson makes the Hunt family far, far too much money.

The thing that pisses me off the most is that it's pretty clear where this team's ceiling stands. We're not going to win more than 9 games at the most, and that's being generous. Even if McIntosh is the second coming of Willie Roaf, John Tait and Will Shields aren't rejoining this squad, and the defense is average. They may have the talent and ability to be pretty good, though that's hardly a given, but the amount of time they'll spend on the field in relation to the offense this year will take care of that.

9-7 pretty much sums up the life of a Chiefs fan. Not bad enough to be truly God-awful. Not good enough to matter to anyone worth a shit.

Loving the Chiefs is masochism in the extreme.

FAX
08-30-2007, 11:31 PM
Troubled, and with no small amount of trepidation, I polished my crystal martyballs and gazed fearfully into the future.

Through tortured, grieving mists of agony, I saw the enemy dink and dunk their way downfield against our C2 because the safeties are young. With a sickening, horrifying realization that even the most malevolent dreams can come true, I saw the enemy deploy the run and the short pass to nullify pressure from our DEs. In between press conferences, I saw Herm standing dully on the sidelines praying weakly and desperately for turnovers or denial in the redzone. But his prayers are not answered. We don't get the turnovers, teams eat up the clock, and when we do hold, we give up field goals.

Through the fog of despair, Herm makes fantastical demands on LJ and safe passes to carry the offense to victory. But enemy defenses know his mind, they flood the box and, therefore, easily defend his fruitless, futile efforts. A paralytic gloom envelopes the offense as our o-line and new fullback struggle helplessly with outside runs, screens, stretches, sweeps, and the 7-step drop. We do not stretch the field to the sidelines or vertically and the fans weep stinging tears.

I see thousands of empty seats and manic thunder called down by the media as we lose game after game by a field goal. I see hopelessness and desperation rise, as our kicker proves inconsistent and undependable. The team that scores first in most of our games wins and, through the gloom of 4th and long, I see that it is not us. There is misery. There is dread. And there is despondency throughout the kingdom. May God help us all.

FAX

jettio
08-31-2007, 12:02 AM
Ah, yes...the motto of the loser. "Just wait until next year". You might want to familiarize yourself with the Chicago Cubs and the Boston Red Sox and how well that little nugget worked out for them.

EDIT

BTW...Herm isn't getting "one year and the preseason". Those of us who've paid attention saw what Herm did with the Jets. They trended down every season he was there, and the only reason they were any good when he got there was that Parcells had left things in decent shape. It's not like Herm just materialized in KC...he's got a track record.

What those of you who've paid attention really ought to do is actually check the Jets history.

Parcells 1998 team was 12-4 and lost in the AFC championship.

Parcells 1999 team started 4-8 with Testaverde hurt and won last 4 to finish 8-8. Parcells then stepped down as head coach.

Al Groh's 2000 team started 9-4 and lost last three to finish 9-7 and missed playoffs. He left to coach at Virginia. Parcells quit his front office job.

Herm Edwards 2001 team finished 10-6 and lost in playoffs to Raiders.

Herm Edwards 2002 team startd 1-4, he switches to Pennington wins 8 of 11, then crushes Indy in the playoffs before losing at Oakland.

Herm Edwards 2003 team starts the year without Pennington because of an arm fracture in the pre-season and starts 1-6 and finishes 6-10.

Herm Edwards 2004 team starts 6-1 before Pennington tears a rotator cuff, misses three games and plays hurt the rest of the year. Team finishes 10-6 wins a road playoff game at San Diego and almost beats the 15-1 Steelers on the road for a chance at the AFC championship.

Herm Edwards 2005 team starts with Pennington's arm not really right and he aggravates the rotator cuff injury and the team finishes 4-12.

Mangini's team with a healthy Pennington finishes 10-6 and makes the playoffs.

The facts are that Parcells last team was impacted by a QB injury and did not make the playoffs. His last team as GM collapsed down the stretch under his handpicked successor and both quit.

Herm's and Mangini's teams have done fine when they have a healthy QB. No thanks at all to Parcells, who really did not do so much in Dallas other than to make enough money to build his retirement back up after his divorce.

stevieray
08-31-2007, 12:08 AM
DV is just plain better.

And that has absolutely nothing to do with this season.

alanm
08-31-2007, 12:17 AM
I'm tellin' ya... Kid Kiffin is the next Gruden - he's got this team playing like they belong in the NFL. Oakland is no longer a "gimme"
It's PRE Season. Do not be fooled by the smokescreen that it is for all teams.

SNR
08-31-2007, 12:20 AM
Raiders could sweep us this year! Pretty sad to have to wait for this to ultimately happen, but it's coming soon. Kinda get the feeling how one must feel on death row.Guess the last coach to allow the Chiefs to be swept by the Raiders. TWICE.

You know the answer...

Redcoats58
08-31-2007, 12:29 AM
Yeah, Croyle's really proved during this preseason that he should be the starting QB of the Chiefs football team. :rolleyes:
And Huard has?

milkman
09-01-2007, 12:03 AM
DV is just plain better.

That's like saying that falling into a pile of dogshit is better than falling into a pile of cow shit.

Who gives a rat's ass what kind of shit you land in, it's still shit.

Chiefnj2
09-01-2007, 12:06 AM
Herm's and Mangini's teams have done fine when they have a healthy QB. No thanks at all to Parcells, who really did not do so much in Dallas other than to make enough money to build his retirement back up after his divorce.

Yeah, Herm didn't benefit from those 4 1st round draft picks Parcells obtained and used.