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Mr. Kotter
08-30-2007, 11:21 PM
I'm guessing Herm plays it safe. 26 Offense, 23 defense, 4 specialists.

However, Terrell could supplant Printers.

If decent OL prospects are available after 53 man roster cuts....expect our youngsters (and Terry) to get axed or moved to the PS.

If Herm decides to keep another defender, I'm guessing Sippio OR Hannon are gone--and we go with five WRs, plus Drummond.

Wesley makes the roster if, for no other reason, than experience and his ability to play both safety spots.

Grigsby may not make the team, if Herm decides to use the spot for D...and with Wilson as an adequate "fill-in" for the FB sets, OR if they decide not to expose Allan to waivers.

Don't be surprised to see Bowe move into a starting slot....soon. Maybe even Niswanger.

QB: Huard, Croyle, Printers
HB: LJ, Bennett, Smith
FB: Grigsby
TE: Gonzo, Dunn, and Wilson
WR1: Parker, Webb, Bowe
WR2: Kennison, Hannon, Sippio
RT: Turley, Terry--OR, more likely T.B.A. (Pending scouring of waivers)
RG: Wellbourne, Stallings
C: Wiegmann, Niswanger
LG: Waters, Taylor
LT: McIntosh, Svitek

RCB: Surtain, Sapp, (Phinisee or Scanlon at LB)
LCB: Law, Poole
SS: Pollard, Wesley
FS: Page, McGraw
ROLB: Edwards, Bell, (Scanlon or Phinisee at CB)
MLB: Harris, Kershaw
LOLB: Johnson, Fox
RDE: Allen, McBride
RDT: Boone, Tyler
LDT: Edwards, Reed
LDE: Hali, Wilkerson

LS: Phillipe-Duarte
P: Colquit
K: Medlock
PR/KR Specialist: Drummond

PS Candidates: Allan, Randolph, Hunt, O'Keith (Ekwerekwu, if he survives waivers...which I doubt.) on offense: Gonzalez, Murphy, Ried, Harris, and Phinisee on defense.

JMHO. :shrug:



What say you??? :hmmm:

Phobia
08-30-2007, 11:22 PM
Wait a minute - are you a combat veteran or a coach? If not, get to the back of the bus. We don't want any of your crap!

Douche Baggins
08-30-2007, 11:23 PM
Six wide receivers is two too many.

Mr. Kotter
08-30-2007, 11:24 PM
Wait a minute - are you a combat veteran or a coach? If not, get to the back of the bus. We don't want any of your crap!


I'm a non-combat veteran.

And I do like PIE.... :shrug:

:p

Mr. Kotter
08-30-2007, 11:25 PM
Six wide receivers is two too many.

Herm will keep five. Plus Drummond.

I'd bet on it. :)

Extra Point
08-30-2007, 11:25 PM
Mr. Kotter gets an A.

Douche Baggins
08-30-2007, 11:26 PM
Herm will keep five. Plus Drummond.

I'd bet on it. :)

Ray Farmer said four on hard knocks.

'Hamas' Jenkins
08-30-2007, 11:27 PM
Ray Farmer said four on hard knocks.

Is Ray Farmer the coach, GM, or a coordinator?

STFU

Douche Baggins
08-30-2007, 11:28 PM
Is Ray Farmer the coach, GM, or a coordinator?

STFU

Ray Farmer is the director of pro personnel. I'd say he knows as much as anyone.

TinyEvel
08-30-2007, 11:28 PM
I just want to see us score a TD.
DEEVEE

Mr. Kotter
08-30-2007, 11:30 PM
Ray Farmer said four on hard knocks.

I suspect...that notion is based on the unfounded belief, that we will RUN the ball 60-65% of the time (which seems prevalent among the sportswriters I'm reading.)

I don't think Herm will do that; thus, he will keep at least 5 WRs, plus Drummond. Don't be surprised by six WRs though.

JMHO

Douche Baggins
08-30-2007, 11:32 PM
I suspect...that notion is based on the unfounded belief, that we will RUN the ball 60-65% of the time (which seems prevalent among the sportswriters I'm reading.)


It's not a notion. Ray Farmer is the direct of player personnel. He dude knows what's going on.

The Chiefs only kept four wide receivers under Vermeil most of the time. That's because Tony Gonzalez and Priest Holmes caught so many passes. The same will happen this year with Gonzo and LJ.

The Chiefs don't need five wide receivers.

tk13
08-30-2007, 11:34 PM
If our director of player personnel doesn't know what's going on, our front office is seriously messed up.

DenverChief
08-30-2007, 11:36 PM
Is Ray Farmer the coach, GM, or a coordinator?

STFU


Better yet does he have combat experience?

Mr. Kotter
08-30-2007, 11:40 PM
It's not a notion. Ray Farmer is the direct of player personnel. He dude knows what's going on.

The Chiefs only kept four wide receivers under Vermeil most of the time. That's because Tony Gonzalez and Priest Holmes caught so many passes. The same will happen this year with Gonzo and LJ.

The Chiefs don't need five wide receivers.

Then he is bluffing.

If we keep four, it would have to be Kennison, Bowe, Webb, and Hannon. That WR lineup will not strike fear into ANYONE.

Teams will put NINE guys in the box against us; and LJ will average 3.2 yds per carry or less... :shake:

I just don't see them being THAT enamored with any of those guys to trust that they can carry the load. ALL four have questions; so you keep at least one more, to hedge your bets. Watch.

It will be at least 5 of them, PLUS Drummond.

Extra Point
08-30-2007, 11:42 PM
I'm good with Kennison, Bowe, Webb, and Hannon. But Chiefs mgmt isn't.

Douche Baggins
08-30-2007, 11:42 PM
If we keep four, it would have to be Kennison, Bowe, Webb, and Hannon. That WR lineup will not strike fear into ANYONE.

Why will adding some scrub make a difference? The Chiefs aren't gonna be running 4 wides every other play. They don't need more bodies at WR.

If teams put that many people in the box, Gonzalez will go to town and Bowe will take the short passes and break them for big gains all day. That's why he was drafted, after all.

Mr. Kotter
08-30-2007, 11:48 PM
Why will adding some scrub make a difference? The Chiefs aren't gonna be running 4 wides every other play. They don't need more bodies at WR.

If teams put that many people in the box, Gonzalez will go to town and Bowe will take the short passes and break them for big gains all day. That's why he was drafted, after all.

Possibility of injuries and lack of confidence in Webb and Hannon will force the issue....and cause them to hold onto at least one more WR, IMO.

Unless, some WR unexpectedly falls into their laps....after the cuts. Then expect Hannon to get the axe, and they MIGHT go with four. Otherwise, I'm betting on five WRs.

Douche Baggins
08-30-2007, 11:50 PM
Possibility of injuries and lack of confidence in Webb and Hannon will force the issue....and cause them to hold onto at least one more WR, IMO.

If someone gets hurt they'll promote Sippio or Eck from the practice squad.

Mr. Kotter
08-30-2007, 11:51 PM
If someone gets hurt they'll promote Sippio or Eck from the practice squad.

There is a good chance NEITHER of those guys would survive waivers.

DenverChief
08-30-2007, 11:52 PM
If someone gets hurt they'll promote Sippio or Eck from the practice squad.


Sippio is not going to the practice squad

Douche Baggins
08-30-2007, 11:52 PM
Sippio is not going to the practice squad

Why not?

Extra Point
08-30-2007, 11:53 PM
No matter how you slice it, we're still cutting the cheese with Parker.

Douche Baggins
08-30-2007, 11:54 PM
There is a good chance NEITHER of those guys would survive waivers.

Guys like Eck and Sippio are a dime a dozen. No team is gonna go OMG!!! AN UNDRAFTED FREE AGENT! AND AN AFL CASTOFF!!! SIGN SIGN SIGN!

If the Chiefs wanted to keep 5 wides, Rod Gardner would still be here.

TinyEvel
08-30-2007, 11:58 PM
WTF?
repost

DenverChief
08-31-2007, 12:00 AM
QB: Huard, Croyle, Printers
HB: LJ, Bennett, Smith
FB: Boomer, Wilson
TE: Gonzo, Dunn
WR1: Bowe, Parker, Webb
WR2: Kennison, Sippio
RT: Terry, Turley
RG: Wellbourne, Stallings
C: Wiegmann, Niswanger
LG: Waters
LT: McIntosh, Svitek

RCB: Surtain, Sapp,
LCB: Law, Patterson toss up between Brackenridge and Poole
SS: Pollard, Wesley
FS: Page, McGraw
ROLB: Edwards, Bell,
MLB: Harris
LOLB: Johnson, Fox
RDE: Allen, McBride
RDT: Boone, Tyler
LDT: Edwards, Reed
LDE: Hali, Wilkerson

LS: Phillipe-Duarte
P: Colquit
K: Medlock
PR/KR Specialist: Drummond

Just fyi I know we don't keep backups at ever position espciall on the line where one guy can play multiple positions...that allows us to keep more at another position like WR and CB

Mr. Kotter
08-31-2007, 12:00 AM
Guys like Eck and Sippio are a dime a dozen. No team is gonna go OMG!!! AN UNDRAFTED FREE AGENT! AND AN AFL CASTOFF!!! SIGN SIGN SIGN!

If the Chiefs wanted to keep 5 wides, Rod Gardner would still be here.

I understand your thinking, but the problem is you have convinced yourself the Chiefs are cutting Parker....they won't. Parker will get at least one more shot. That means keeping Kennison, Parker, Bowe, and Webb.

No way they rely on just THOSE guys, IMO. Kennison is slipping; and the the others each have BIG question marks. They'll keep the best one of Hannon/Sippio/Eck, too.

Otherwise, we become SO one-dimensional....it's a complete joke.

Mr. Kotter
08-31-2007, 12:04 AM
QB: Huard, Croyle, Printers
HB: LJ, Bennett, Smith
FB: Boomer, Wilson
TE: Gonzo, Dunn
WR1: Bowe, Parker, Webb
WR2: Kennison, Sippio
RT: Terry, Turley
RG: Wellbourne, Stallings
C: Wiegmann, Niswanger
LG: Waters
LT: McIntosh, Svitek

RCB: Surtain, Sapp,
LCB: Law, Patterson toss up between Brackenridge and Poole
SS: Pollard, Wesley
FS: Page, McGraw
ROLB: Edwards, Bell,
MLB: Harris
LOLB: Johnson, Fox
RDE: Allen, McBride
RDT: Boone, Tyler
LDT: Edwards, Reed
LDE: Hali, Wilkerson

LS: Phillipe-Duarte
P: Colquit
K: Medlock
PR/KR Specialist: Drummond

Just fyi I know we don't keep backups at ever position espciall on the line where one guy can play multiple positions...that allows us to keep more at another position like WR and CB

You saving money by only keeping 50 players---or you just have issues "counting?"

:hmmm:

Douche Baggins
08-31-2007, 12:05 AM
Otherwise, we become SO one-dimensional....it's a complete joke.

The Chiefs weren't one dimensional under Vermeil, were they?

They frequently only kept four wide receivers on the roster under him.

We'll be just fine.

Mr. Kotter
08-31-2007, 12:06 AM
The Chiefs weren't one dimensional under Vermeil, were they?

They frequently only kept four wide receivers on the roster under him.

We'll be just fine.

We'll see.... :shake:

DenverChief
08-31-2007, 12:14 AM
You saving money by only keeping 50 players---or you just have issues "counting?"

:hmmm:

too Tired to add em up....ya knw grad skewl rly tks it oot uv u

ChiefsCountry
08-31-2007, 01:13 AM
Here we go:

WR - Kennison, Bowe, Webb, Hannon, Drummond
LT - McIntosh, Svitek
LG - Waters, Taylor
C - Wiegmann, Niwesanger
RG - Welbourn, Stallings
RT - Turley, Terry
TE - Gonzalez, Dunn, Allan
QB - Huard, Croyle, Printers
RB - Johnson, Bennett, Smith, Ross
FB - Wilson, Grigsby

DE - Allen, Hali, McBride, Wilkerson
DT - Edwards, Reed, Boone, Tyler
LB - Johnson, Edwards, Harris, Kershaw, Fox, Bell
CB - Law, Surtain, Sapp, Breckeridge, Phinisee
SS - Pollard, Wesley
FS- Page, McGraw

K - Medlock
P - Colquitt
LS - Darche

Mr. Kotter
08-31-2007, 07:24 AM
Here we go:

WR - Kennison, Bowe, Webb, Hannon, Drummond
LT - McIntosh, Svitek
LG - Waters, Taylor
C - Wiegmann, Niwesanger
RG - Welbourn, Stallings
RT - Turley, Terry
TE - Gonzalez, Dunn, Allan
QB - Huard, Croyle, Printers
RB - Johnson, Bennett, Smith, Ross
FB - Wilson, Grigsby

DE - Allen, Hali, McBride, Wilkerson
DT - Edwards, Reed, Boone, Tyler
LB - Johnson, Edwards, Harris, Kershaw, Fox, Bell
CB - Law, Surtain, Sapp, Breckeridge, Phinisee
SS - Pollard, Wesley
FS- Page, McGraw

K - Medlock
P - Colquitt
LS - Darche

I think Ross is gone....and Breckenridge looked decent enough in camp sessions, but has been terrible in the Preseason games IMO.

dirk digler
08-31-2007, 07:31 AM
I can't remember but does Allen count against the 53 man roster for the first 2 games? If not a young guy will make this team at least for the first 2 games anyway.

Hog Farmer
08-31-2007, 07:49 AM
The only reason Ray Farmer said we were only keeping 4 receivers was because he had no better excuse to give Gardner, he was afraid Gardner was going to go mental on him. And he did say to Gardner that if the numbers change would you be willing to come back, indicating there is gonna be a fifth receiver.

Zouk
08-31-2007, 08:23 AM
I can't remember but does Allen count against the 53 man roster for the first 2 games? If not a young guy will make this team at least for the first 2 games anyway.

Last night Carl Peterson said that we have to cut to 53 including Allen on Saturday. Then on Monday Allen's suspension becomes active and the Chiefs will gain an additional roster spot.

Mr. Kotter
08-31-2007, 08:28 AM
I can't remember but does Allen count against the 53 man roster for the first 2 games? If not a young guy will make this team at least for the first 2 games anyway.

Good question.

Anyone know...

crazycoffey
08-31-2007, 08:33 AM
The only reason Ray Farmer said we were only keeping 4 receivers was because he had no better excuse to give Gardner, he was afraid Gardner was going to go mental on him. And he did say to Gardner that if the numbers change would you be willing to come back, indicating there is gonna be a fifth receiver.



Exactly, it was a test and Rod failed it. Goatboy hasn't a clue about reading people and how to use people skills. I thought it was clearly evident this is what Ray did.

Chiefnj2
08-31-2007, 08:34 AM
Do people really care if Sippio beats out Webb, or if Grigsby makes the roster, or if Patterson beats out Phinessee?

It's like buying a car and being excited it comes with a first aid kit.

carlos3652
08-31-2007, 02:13 PM
QB: Huard, Croyle, Printers
HB: LJ, Bennett, Smith
FB: Wilson, Grigsby
TE: Gonzo, Dunn, and Allen
WR1: Parker, Webb, Bowe
WR2: Kennison, Sippio
RT: Turley, Terry
RG: Wellbourne, Stallings
C: Wiegmann, Niswanger
LG: Waters
LT: McIntosh, Svitek

RCB: Surtain, Sapp, Phinisee
LCB: Law, Patterson, Breckenridge
SS: Pollard, Wesley
FS: Page, McGraw
ROLB: Edwards, Bell
MLB: Harris, Kershaw
LOLB: Johnson, Fox
RDE: Allen, McBride
RDT: Boone, Tyler
LDT: Edwards, Reed
LDE: Hali, Wilkerson

LS: Phillipe-Duarte
P: Colquit
K: Medlock
PR/KR Specialist: Drummond

Mr. Kotter
09-01-2007, 08:45 PM
Sippio bashers, suck my BAOWS.... :p



Right on Scanlon too. ;)

Surprised Printers AND Terrell were both cut. Not surprised Harris made it though; they must have thought he wouldn't clear waivers.

And I thought Poole and Stallings would make the cut.

Guess ST, RB, and DB needed more depth.... :hmmm:

Otherwise, it was a decent effort. :shrug: