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Count Alex's Wins
08-31-2007, 01:26 AM
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/chiefs/story/254910.html

Rams end Chiefs’ misery

By JASON KING
The Kansas City Star

ST. LOUIS | At least now it’s over.

At least now — after Thursday’s 10-3 loss to the Rams — the focus will be on what these Chiefs can become instead of what they’ve been throughout this winless preseason.

“Hard to watch,” was how coach Herm Edwards described a setback at Cleveland a few weeks ago. From there it only got worse.

The Chiefs scored a combined 32 points and a measly three touchdowns in four preseason losses — and one of those was on a fumble return. Brodie Croyle was so inconsistent that Damon Huard won the starting quarterback job despite hardly taking the field. At times, Kansas City looked better defensively. Other times it looked worse.

Still, despite their struggles, the Chiefs seemed upbeat and energized as they left the Edward Jones Dome on Thursday. For them, the regular-season opener at Houston can’t come fast enough.

“Nobody has seen the Kansas City Chiefs play yet,” tight end Tony Gonzalez said. “Nobody has. We’re a better football team than we were a year ago.”

Some would argue that their preseason performance suggests otherwise — but the Chiefs don’t care. It’d be foolish, they said, to read too much into the dismal statistics that seem to worsen with each defeat.

Especially considering their most potent offensive weapon played just one series in four games.

A contract holdout kept All-Pro running back Larry Johnson off the field until Thursday, when he carried on three straight plays during the Chiefs’ first offensive possession.

Two yards, 7 yards, 3 yards. First down.

“It was good to get in the game,” Johnson said. “That’s the toughest adjustment, getting back in the speed of the game and getting your timing down with your offensive linemen. I need to experience that again.”

That was all the action Johnson received, though, as Edwards pulled him from the game for to avoid injury. Heck, some of the Chiefs’ top players — Huard, Gonzalez, Ty Law, Patrick Surtain Donnie Edwards, Eddie Kennison — didn’t even suit up for the same reason.

That’s why the Chiefs didn’t take Thursday’s loss — or any of them, for that matter — all that hard.

“You haven’t seen the total package,” fullback Boomer Grigsby said. “All the wheels were never turning at once. We’ve got one of the best running backs in the league, and he only played three plays in the preseason. Part of our entire offense is putting pressure on the defense (with Johnson).

“There’s a plan behind everything. We’re not out to give away preseason games, but there’s more to the preseason than just winning.”

Namely developing younger players. A large chunk of the Chiefs who played the final three quarters of Thursday’s game will be hard-pressed to make the squad. Edwards noted that the team entered training camp last month with 42 first-year players or rookies.

“The purpose of the preseason is to evaluate players,” Edwards said. “Now we’ve got a good idea of (what they can do). When it comes time to make these cuts, we’ve got them on tape. We can evaluate it. We can see it. Some guys got better, some guys stayed the same.”

Those who improved the most have a chance to be on the 53-man, opening day roster. Edwards must cut 22 players by Saturday. After that, the Chiefs will begin channeling their attention toward Houston.

“We’ve got some guys that have won some football games,” Edwards said.

“They have to lead this team now.”

Kansas City’s players will have the weekend off before resuming practice Monday.

“You can’t dwell on the preseason record too much,” fullback Kris Wilson said. “When you do you either go into the season overconfident or not believing in yourself enough. I know a lot of teams in the past that went 4-0 in the preseason but didn’t end up doing well in the regular season.

“I feel good about the direction we’re going. Coming into work Monday, we’ll have a totally different mind-set. Guys will be totally focused on the objective at hand, and that’s to win the game. Plain and simple.”

Gonzalez is confident that will happen.

When talking about the Chiefs’ progress, Gonzalez cited roster additions such as linebacker Napoleon Harris, defensive tackle Alfonso Boone and offensive lineman Damion McIntosh.

He reminds you of Huard’s success in a relief role last season and talks about lineman Kyle Turley getting back to his normal weight.

Then there are veterans such as Johnson, Kennison, Law, Edwards, Surtain — and Gonzalez himself.

“All these guys haven’t even been on the field together yet,” Gonzalez said. “We’ve been very vanilla on offense and defense. We haven’t shifted, we haven’t moved, we haven’t motioned. We haven’t even gone with our top five plays.

“I think we’re a better football team than we were last year. I don’t care what anyone says. That’s what I think. All these critics that are predicting us to go four-and-whatever … they’re going to be in for a surprise.”

Guru
08-31-2007, 01:30 AM
4 and whatever? Did he forget how many games we have in a season or something.

'Hamas' Jenkins
08-31-2007, 01:38 AM
*cough*bullshit*cough*

Count Alex's Wins
08-31-2007, 01:44 AM
*cough*bullshit*cough*

Gonzalez is the biggest bullshit artist on the Chiefs. He's been doing this sort of thing for YEARS. EVERY YEAR: "This is the best team I've ever been on."

DenverChief
08-31-2007, 02:19 AM
Gonzalez is the biggest bullshit artist on the Chiefs.


Does that make you the biggest bullshit artist outside of the Chiefs?

bringbackmarty
08-31-2007, 03:31 AM
no he is just the biggest bullshit artist on the "planet"

ChiefaRoo
08-31-2007, 04:05 AM
Tony G. is right.

HonestChieffan
08-31-2007, 06:55 AM
And his wife is hot.

siberian khatru
08-31-2007, 07:28 AM
I'd like to believe him, but I think this is just a vet trying to lead. Saying the right things to deflect criticism and pump up the team (and fans).

InChiefsHell
08-31-2007, 07:36 AM
This confirms my suspicions that Herm is secretly running a completely different offense. He is luring the entire NFL RIGHT WHERE HE WANTS THEM!!

...They won't know what hit them until it's too late...

...genious I tell you...pure genious...:thumb:







...I might need to load up on bourbon this season...

Warrior5
08-31-2007, 07:50 AM
This confirms my suspicions that Herm is secretly running a completely different offense. He is luring the entire NFL RIGHT WHERE HE WANTS THEM!!

...They won't know what hit them until it's too late...

...genious I tell you...pure genious...:thumb:

...I might need to load up on bourbon this season...

print 'em.

Otter
08-31-2007, 07:53 AM
6-10

Micjones
08-31-2007, 08:14 AM
I think Gonzalez is right.

Whether or not that means this team ends the season with a winning record remains to be seen.

I do think this team is a lot better than what we've seen this pre-season.

The Rick
08-31-2007, 08:38 AM
Don't we seem to go through this charade every year? Doesn't every team?

Losing preseason record: "We're DOOMED!"

Winning preseason record: "Let's not get our hopes up...it's only the preseason"

DenverChief
08-31-2007, 08:47 AM
no he is just the biggest bullshit artist on the "planet"


LMAO my bad...nice save tho :)

Valiant
08-31-2007, 09:02 AM
ved, we haven’t motioned. We haven’t even gone with our top five plays.


Great we have good plays.. Hopefully the other teams do not pick up on our five top plays..

Chiefnj2
08-31-2007, 09:03 AM
"We haven’t shifted, we haven’t moved, we haven’t motioned."

= That means there will be lots of false start penalties the first few weeks.

"We haven’t even gone with our top five plays."

= The Chiefs have gone from an offensive playbook the size of a NYC telephone directory to the top "five" plays. Let me guess: (1) LJ run to the left, (2) LJ run to the middle, (3) LJ run to the right, (4) screen pass (it doesn't matter where because they can't execute it) and (5) punt on third down just to be safe.

FringeNC
08-31-2007, 09:13 AM
Perhaps Gonzalez is correct, but then the question becomes why do the Chiefs hold back so much more during the preseason than do other teams? Is it a good strategy? If so, why aren't other teams doing it?

Chiefnj2
08-31-2007, 09:21 AM
Perhaps Gonzalez is correct, but then the question becomes why do the Chiefs hold back so much more during the preseason than do other teams? Is it a good strategy? If so, why aren't other teams doing it?

What's the point in staying ultra vanilla on defense? The Chiefs play a base 4-3 cover 2. It's nothing new. It's been around for quite some time. Every OC in the league has seen it and millions of permutations of it. It's not like Herm is going to run some new twist on it that the league hasn't seen

htismaqe
08-31-2007, 09:23 AM
I can't wait for 8-8!

htismaqe
08-31-2007, 09:23 AM
What's the point in staying ultra vanilla on defense? The Chiefs play a base 4-3 cover 2. It's nothing new. It's been around for quite some time. Every OC in the league has seen it and millions of permutations of it. It's not like Herm is going to run some new twist on it that the league hasn't seen

Herm may not, but Gunther will. He's a ggeeeeennius...

Chiefnj2
08-31-2007, 09:25 AM
I can't wait for 8-8!

Dude, I thought you might have attempted to kill yourself last night when Herm yanked Croyle so quickly. Are you typing from a laptop in the ICU ward?

Valiant
08-31-2007, 09:29 AM
I can't wait for 8-8!


God I hope not.. Nothing worse then just being average especially when I believe the front office/coaches would try and continue the same the next year...

htismaqe
08-31-2007, 09:31 AM
Dude, I thought you might have attempted to kill yourself last night when Herm yanked Croyle so quickly. Are you typing from a laptop in the ICU ward?

Nah, I really don't give a shit at this point. There wasn't any reason to leave Croyle out there. He sucks.

Besides, that means we got to see more of the guy with the best QB mechanics on the team.

StcChief
08-31-2007, 09:55 AM
Talk is cheap. Let's see it on the 9th

FAX
08-31-2007, 10:14 AM
I really like the fact that we have 5 top plays.

FAX

DaKCMan AP
08-31-2007, 10:16 AM
I really like the fact that we have 5 top plays.

FAX

5. LJ run right
4. LJ run left
3. LJ run up the middle
2. Screen pass to LJ
1. Draw play to LJ

RustShack
08-31-2007, 10:17 AM
I agree with Tony, we will surprize a lot of people!

thehead
08-31-2007, 10:21 AM
God I hope not.. Nothing worse then just being average especially when I believe the front office/coaches would try and continue the same the next year...

Its every year !! I know
STFU

L.A. Chieffan
08-31-2007, 10:22 AM
What do you want him to say?
"I ****ing hate this team and I ****ing hate Carl and he wont give me that ****ing parking spot and I've been on this stupid ****ing team the longest and wasted my entire ****ing career with these ****ing joke-artists. Oh, by the way my wife is ****ing hot."?

Is that better?