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SLAG
09-12-2007, 08:35 PM
I would like to share this Great news with everyone!

Wife is Pregnant with Pregnancy # 4... If God is willing he/she will make it to full term and be Child #3...
Life is good

Adept Havelock
09-12-2007, 08:36 PM
Congrats.

Skip Towne
09-12-2007, 08:37 PM
You're 23 and have 3 kids? You'd better find out what is causing that.

cdcox
09-12-2007, 08:38 PM
Congrats.

gblowfish
09-12-2007, 08:39 PM
How the Hell did that Happen???

Extra Point
09-12-2007, 08:40 PM
Peace be to you and yours. Best wishes for a healthy Mom and newborn! And a sane Dad!!!

ChiefsCountry
09-12-2007, 08:41 PM
You're 23 and have 3 kids? You'd better find out what is causing that.

I'm the same age and cant even imagine having one let alone 3.

DomerNKC
09-12-2007, 08:41 PM
we know what your favorite indoor sport is. Congrats. My wife found out what caused that and then stopped.

Ultra Peanut
09-12-2007, 08:43 PM
I bet they were all conceived in the missionary position.

SLAG
09-12-2007, 08:45 PM
I bet they were all conceived in the missionary position.


This would be a bet you would loose

ENDelt260
09-12-2007, 08:46 PM
Are you offering any sort of reward for whoever delivers the man responsible?

Ultra Peanut
09-12-2007, 08:51 PM
This would be a bet you would looseGIVE ME THE ROPES YOU GETTIN' WRAPPED UP

Count Alex's Wins
09-12-2007, 08:57 PM
Sounds like you need a snip.

SLAG
09-12-2007, 09:00 PM
Sounds like you need a snip.


Never..

Heres why (http://www.catholicherald.com/saunders/04ws/ws040115.htm)

Ultra Peanut
09-12-2007, 09:01 PM
Sounds like you need a snip.You see what happens when you drill abstinence-only education into a kid, Larry?

Never..

Heres why (http://www.catholicherald.com/saunders/04ws/ws040115.htm)OH FOR GOD'S SAKE

Count Alex's Wins
09-12-2007, 09:01 PM
Never..

Heres why (http://www.catholicherald.com/saunders/04ws/ws040115.htm)

You poor brainwashed bastard.

SLAG
09-12-2007, 09:02 PM
You poor brainwashed bastard.

Brainwashing is something Cults do..

Religion is something that I freely choose to follow.

Logical
09-12-2007, 09:09 PM
I think you are being irresponsible, but I wish you and the misses all the best and a healthy child.

Skip Towne
09-12-2007, 09:18 PM
I hate to rain on your parade but you have f*cked yourself into a corner. If your wife should decide to pack up and leave you are looking at $800-$1000 per month child support. 50% of them do it. Do you make enough money to do that and still support yourself? Very few do.

Simply Red
09-12-2007, 09:22 PM
Congratulations.

FAX
09-12-2007, 09:25 PM
Congratulations, Mr. SLAG. Here's to everything going perfectly.

Now consider holstering that weapon.

FAX

SLAG
09-12-2007, 09:26 PM
I hate to rain on your parade but you have f*cked yourself into a corner. If your wife should decide to pack up and leave you are looking at $800-$1000 per month child support. 50% of them do it. Do you make enough money to do that and still support yourself? Very few do.

We dont Believe in Divorce

infact we just got our marriage Convalidated "Blessed" by the Church in June

Shes not going anywhere

"What God has Joined together let NO man put Asunder"

Ozark Ozzy
09-12-2007, 09:27 PM
Show us a picture of your wife. I want to rub one out.

Braincase
09-12-2007, 09:34 PM
I hope you and your wife have a happy and healthy third child.

Logical
09-12-2007, 09:36 PM
We dont Believe in Divorce

infact we just got our marriage Convalidated "Blessed" by the Church in June

Shes not going anywhere

"What God has Joined together let NO man put Asunder"Please don't make me laugh that hard, I don't know how many devoted Catholics and other religious folks ended up divorced. I hope you are right but you have only slight better than a 50% chance of being right.

ChiefsLV
09-12-2007, 09:38 PM
Never..

Heres why (http://www.catholicherald.com/saunders/04ws/ws040115.htm)

Hey just think, if everyone did this we'd run out of resources, have chaos from overpopulation, and reach our self fullfilling prophecy that much faster! But that's just the common sense in me talking, or as you might like to call it, Da Debil!

Count Alex's Wins
09-12-2007, 09:40 PM
Show us a picture of your wife. I want to rub one out.

Just look at porn.

Mr. Plow
09-12-2007, 09:41 PM
I would like to share this Great news with everyone!


Congrats!! Just had baby #4. Hope the baby is healthy and happy!!!

ChiefsLV
09-12-2007, 09:41 PM
Just look at porn.

Maybe he wants some true amateur MILF, better yet preggers MILF

Mr. Plow
09-12-2007, 09:41 PM
You're 23 and have 3 kids? You'd better find out what is causing that.

My wife and I discovered that it was alcohol and internet porn.

SLAG
09-12-2007, 09:53 PM
Hey just think, if everyone did this we'd run out of resources, have chaos from overpopulation, and reach our self fullfilling prophecy that much faster! But that's just the common sense in me talking, or as you might like to call it, Da Debil!

Overpopulation is a myth


In fact, when I was in high school, we had posters of globes with human beings falling off the globe, it was so crowded. But there actually have been no two people who have been more wrong than Malthus and Paul Ehrlich. I recommend books, one by a man named Julian Simon, and another named Ben Wattenburg, who are demographers. And there are many others such as Jacqueline Kasun, who have looked at their work.

Malthus said that the population would increase geometrically and the food supplies would only, at best, increase arithmetically. The population has increased enormously. That's not necessarily bad news. That's just a fact. It has increased enormously. The good news is that the food supply is wildly better off than Malthus ever dreamed. The United States could quite easily feed the rest of the globe. It's not a problem. Modern agricultural techniques have exponentially increased our food supply. And they say we haven't even begun to mine the ocean for food. And as for limited mineral resources, and that sort of thing, Malthus thought we certainly would run out of coal and copper and these sorts of things, but we actually have more coal and more copper now per person on the globe than Malthus thought we'd have at his time. We've discovered more resources, and we need them less because we have such things as atomic energy.

So I'm not here to argue against the population scare. I'm just here to tell you that there is good reason to doubt it. And you might wonder why we see these emaciated children on TV starving. And we must be overpopulated-look at all these starving children. It has little to do with population. It has a great deal to do with one tribal or ethnic group hating and starving out another tribal and ethnic group. It has a great deal to do with corrupt governments and a failure to distribute food. It has a great deal to do with natural disasters that we can have little control over. But that was one of the reasons that we thought the Pill was going to be a great thing. It was going to help us with population problems.

SOURCE (http://www.janetsmith.excerptsofinri.com/)

SLAG
09-12-2007, 09:54 PM
Please don't make me laugh that hard, I don't know how many devoted Catholics and other religious folks ended up divorced. I hope you are right but you have only slight better than a 50% chance of being right.

Then they were not Devoted Catholics

ChiefsLV
09-12-2007, 10:16 PM
Overpopulation is a myth

SOURCE (http://www.janetsmith.excerptsofinri.com/)

Nice try but the resources on this planet aren't in infinite supply. It becomes a question of "when will it happen" rather than "will it happen". I believe the world will not end in the sense that is destroyed, but rather humans will cease to exist on the planet by our own doing long before the earth goes into the sun.

You're just expediting the process.

Ultra Peanut
09-12-2007, 10:19 PM
Overpopulation is a myth

SOURCE (http://www.janetsmith.excerptsofinri.com/)Oh my ****ing God.

But that was one of the reasons that we thought the Pill was going to be a great thing. It was going to help us with population problems.Or -- and I'm aware that this is a wacky concept to those who believe sex is diiiirty and immoral and people should be punished for having it and enjoying it -- it could be a great thing because you don't have to worry about babies popping out when you don't want them to!

ChiefaRoo
09-12-2007, 10:21 PM
Catholic Town
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Skip Towne
09-12-2007, 10:21 PM
Then they were not Devoted Catholics
You are exceptionally stupid. Even for a 23 year old.

SLAG
09-12-2007, 10:22 PM
Oh my ****ing God.

Or -- and I'm aware that this is a wacky concept to those who believe sex is diiiirty and immoral and people should be punished for having it and enjoying it -- it could be a great thing because you don't have to worry about babies popping out when you don't want them to!


Good thing I work in a specialty pharmacy so you can give me a call when you need your AIDS cocktail or Hepatitis C Drugs

Braincase
09-12-2007, 10:23 PM
Oh my ****ing God.

Or -- and I'm aware that this is a wacky concept to those who believe sex is diiiirty and immoral and people should be punished for having it and enjoying it -- it could be a great thing because you don't have to worry about babies popping out when you don't want them to!

Sorry, but I don't think you ought to be attacking the beliefs of others. Of all people, you ought to be promoting the acceptance of others regardless of what they choose to belief and how they live their lives.

Count Alex's Wins
09-12-2007, 10:25 PM
Seriously. I'm absolutely shocked and appalled that someone two years younger than me has three ****in' kids. WTF?

Demonpenz
09-12-2007, 10:26 PM
congrats dude!

ChiTown
09-12-2007, 10:31 PM
Seriously. I'm absolutely shocked and appalled that someone two years younger than me has three ****in' kids. WTF?

As long as he's a good Father, wtf do you care? You're 25, still living at home and bangin' your sister. Yeah, that sounds responsible, and normal.........

BTW, Congrat's Slag.

Mr. Kotter
09-12-2007, 10:32 PM
Congrats, Slag. :thumb:

Saulbadguy
09-12-2007, 10:33 PM
Please don't make me laugh that hard, I don't know how many devoted Catholics and other religious folks ended up divorced. I hope you are right but you have only slight better than a 50% chance of being right.
Catholics do not get divorced, they get an annulment. It's the same thing but they call it something different.

Mr. Kotter
09-12-2007, 10:33 PM
Sorry, but I don't think you ought to be attacking the beliefs of others. Of all people, you ought to be promoting the acceptance of others regardless of what they choose to belief and how they live their lives.

No shit....


LMAO

Saulbadguy
09-12-2007, 10:34 PM
Congratulations. Children seem fun, and useful. Maybe i'll have one some day.

Reaper16
09-12-2007, 10:38 PM
Shes not going anywhere

That sounds like a threat :p

Congrats, dude. I guess. I know I couldn't handle three kids, let alone one.

ChiTown
09-12-2007, 10:42 PM
Congratulations. Children seem fun, and useful. Maybe i'll have one some day.

Saul

Children are a true blessing. One day, after you and your bride have had enough of each other, you'll decide to bring an addition to the family that will make your marriage stronger.

Being a Father is the absolute best, most rewarding job in the world......especially after they get old enough to mow the grass

:)

blueballs
09-12-2007, 10:44 PM
After this one is past teething
she will move in with me
and I will never have to work again -thanks

Iowanian
09-12-2007, 11:09 PM
Congratulations.

Don't listen to any of these dickbags who need not worry about impregnating anything except a tube sock.

DomerNKC
09-12-2007, 11:11 PM
You are exceptionally stupid. Even for a 23 year old.

Guru
09-12-2007, 11:15 PM
There is something in the water then. We have number 4 on the way.

ROYC75
09-12-2007, 11:18 PM
I would like to share this Great news with everyone!

As parents, Enjoy them while they are small, they step on your toes, but as they grow up they step on your hearts ........

Congrats , here's to a healthy baby.

Iowanian
09-12-2007, 11:19 PM
There is something in the water then. We have number 4 on the way.

I realize Kansas might be a little behind on science education, but I think it has more to do with "something being in the vagina" than in the water.



Though some are picking a funny(not hahaha) thread to be pricks about a topic......this would be a funny thread to insert the "vagina, its not a clown car" inspirational poster.

greg63
09-12-2007, 11:42 PM
Congrats SLAG!!! :toast:

Guru
09-13-2007, 12:05 AM
I realize Kansas might be a little behind on science education, but I think it has more to do with "something being in the vagina" than in the water.



Though some are picking a funny(not hahaha) thread to be pricks about a topic......this would be a funny thread to insert the "vagina, its not a clown car" inspirational poster.

We can always count on you for something original. LMAO

Jenson71
09-13-2007, 12:23 AM
Congratulations, SLAG.

greg63
09-13-2007, 12:29 AM
There is something in the water then. We have number 4 on the way.

It ain't what's in the water. LMAO

burt
09-13-2007, 12:33 AM
Congratulations. Children seem fun, and useful. Maybe i'll have one some day.

mosty when you lose the remote

burt
09-13-2007, 12:33 AM
Hey slag, congrats....and how does it feel to be 23 and know everything?

Guru
09-13-2007, 12:36 AM
It ain't what's in the water. LMAO
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

REAAAAAALY???????

I had no idea. :rolleyes: :)
http://www.kradolfer.com/FPS_Doug%5E%5E.jpg

ChiefaRoo
09-13-2007, 12:38 AM
Iowa should be nuked and then renamed the State of Jiffy Pop.

Ari Chi3fs
09-13-2007, 12:44 AM
w00t.

KCChiefsMan
09-13-2007, 01:02 AM
Hey just think, if everyone did this we'd run out of resources, have chaos from overpopulation, and reach our self fullfilling prophecy that much faster! But that's just the common sense in me talking, or as you might like to call it, Da Debil!


ya I don't get why so many feel that they need or have to reproduce. It's not like it takes any talent and the one's who seem to reproduce the most aren't exactly the brightest. Not saying anything about the thread starter, but that just seems to be the norm. Watch the movie Idiocracy, I predict that movie will become a reality

big nasty kcnut
09-13-2007, 01:22 AM
Slag you pimp daddy congrat may your child be happy and healthy and not a dungver fan.

Phobia
09-13-2007, 01:22 AM
ya I don't get why so many feel that they need or have to reproduce. It's not like it takes any talent and the one's who seem to reproduce the most aren't exactly the brightest. Not saying anything about the thread starter, but that just seems to be the norm. Watch the movie Idiocracy, I predict that movie will become a reality
You have no idea how happy I am to read this post. Perhaps there's hope afterall. Have you ever considered a vascectomy?

KCChiefsMan
09-13-2007, 01:42 AM
You have no idea how happy I am to read this post. Perhaps there's hope afterall. Have you ever considered a vascectomy?

actually at first I thought I never would want to have children. But I will eventually just for society's sake. The intelligent need to breed eventually

Jilly
09-13-2007, 07:30 AM
Congratulations

StcChief
09-13-2007, 07:34 AM
Congrats. Hope it works out.

Seriously consider the snip.

bkkcoh
09-13-2007, 07:39 AM
Congrats. Hope it works out.

Seriously consider the snip.


I would chip in for the bag of frozen peas to help with the pain after... :)

InChiefsHell
09-13-2007, 08:21 AM
Slag...congrats brutha! Don't sweat all the dimwits who are unable to understand...

Pax!

Iowanian
09-13-2007, 08:21 AM
actually at first I thought I never would want to have children. But I will eventually just for society's sake. The intelligent need to breed eventually

In that case...hopefully those like you and chiefaroo will still be humping peniculum folds and your genetics will remain contained.

Ultra Peanut
09-13-2007, 10:11 AM
Sorry, but I don't think you ought to be attacking the beliefs of others. Of all people, you ought to be promoting the acceptance of others regardless of what they choose to belief and how they live their lives.Why the hell shouldn't I be calling out crazy people for peddling crazy bullshit about how others should be subject to their own ****ed up standards?

If anything, that's EXACTLY the sort of thing I should be talking about. I'm sorry if you're too ignorant about my circumstances to realize that.

No shit....


LMAO"Yeah, boss! Get 'em, boss!"

http://i7.tinypic.com/4lf5g76.jpg

Ultra Peanut
09-13-2007, 10:21 AM
actually at first I thought I never would want to have children. But I will eventually just for society's sake. The intelligent need to breed eventuallyDon't you ****ing dare. SLAG is doing enough damage to the gene pool.

el borracho
09-13-2007, 10:22 AM
You're 23 and have 3 kids? You'd better find out what is causing that.
God is causing it. Duh.

phobia's skidmark
09-13-2007, 10:24 AM
bunch of classy guys posting on this thread....

el borracho
09-13-2007, 10:24 AM
Brainwashing is something Cults do..

Religion is something that I freely choose to follow.
Please elaborate on the difference(s) between a religion and a cult.

carlos3652
09-13-2007, 10:26 AM
congrats!

Brock
09-13-2007, 10:29 AM
I hate to rain on your parade

Then why do it?

bobbything
09-13-2007, 10:33 AM
Never..

Heres why (http://www.catholicherald.com/saunders/04ws/ws040115.htm)
It looks as if you have to weigh your options: Are you willing to sacrifice the streets that are paved in gold to avoid a "hell on earth?"

morphius
09-13-2007, 12:35 PM
Congrats SLAG!

I'm not making a comment against your religion, but don't trust the rhythm method, as it really doesn't work which I am an example.

irishjayhawk
09-13-2007, 12:43 PM
Congrats.

Though I have a question (it relates to another thread in the DC.), is god still "willing" if it doesn't come to term?

SLAG
09-13-2007, 01:08 PM
Congrats.

Though I have a question (it relates to another thread in the DC.), is god still "willing" if it doesn't come to term?

If its his well that it does not come to term then its his will... we will do everything we can ( well visits-- Prenatal vitimans.. etc..) but if the unborn baby miscarries then we will have to accept that..

She has had a miscarriage before as well, we Accept God's will be done in everything we do...(see my sig)

"Fiat Voluntas Tua"

irishjayhawk
09-13-2007, 01:13 PM
You poor brainwashed bastard.

Ultra Peanut
09-13-2007, 01:16 PM
If its his well that it does not come to term then its his will... we will do everything we can ( well visits-- Prenatal vitimans.. etc..) but if the unborn baby miscarries then we will have to accept that..Why do the vitamins and stuff, though?

HemiEd
09-13-2007, 01:18 PM
Mucho congrats and I hope everything turns out great for you and your family. :thumb:

BIG_DADDY
09-13-2007, 01:20 PM
Why do the vitamins and stuff, though?

Because people who do have lower rates of problems. What do you care?

BIG_DADDY
09-13-2007, 01:21 PM
I would like to share this Great news with everyone!
Congratulations bro, kids rule.

Jenson71
09-13-2007, 01:22 PM
I want small people of my own someday. About 5-6 would be nice. I've never heard of anyone considering that irresponsible.

sedated
09-13-2007, 01:22 PM
are condoms a sin too?

Jilly
09-13-2007, 01:24 PM
are condoms a sin too?

yes because it blocks a potential baby from being conceived.... :rolleyes:

Thou shalt not spill semen!

Saulbadguy
09-13-2007, 01:25 PM
are condoms a sin too?
Only if they are ribbed, for "her pleasure".

Saulbadguy
09-13-2007, 01:26 PM
yes because it blocks a potential baby from being conceived.... :rolleyes:

Thou shalt not spill semen!
Every sperm is sacred...

SLAG
09-13-2007, 01:26 PM
are condoms a sin too?

Yes any form of contraception is wrong

even using Natural Family planing as strictly NOT to have children is wrong withough Grave reason

Count Alex's Wins
09-13-2007, 01:27 PM
I want small people of my own someday. About 5-6 would be nice. I've never heard of anyone considering that irresponsible.

Who the **** would want six ****ing kids? Are you ****ing kidding me?

Saulbadguy
09-13-2007, 01:28 PM
Yes any form of contraception is wrong

even using Natural Family planing as strictly NOT to have children is wrong withough Grave reason
What is natural family planning?

Jilly
09-13-2007, 01:28 PM
Every sperm is sacred...

That's probably how The Fall happened...Eve and Adam got a little over zealous one evening, spilled some sacred sperm and the apple story is just one big cover up for it.

sedated
09-13-2007, 01:29 PM
"Take away self-will and there will be no hell"

Take away self-will and you are in hell

Ultra Peanut
09-13-2007, 01:29 PM
Yes any form of contraception is wrong

even using Natural Family planing as strictly NOT to have children is wrong withough Grave reasonJesus ****ing Christ.

Jilly
09-13-2007, 01:31 PM
Jesus ****ing Christ.

eh eh eh eh eh.... no sir... I am sure if spilling sperm is wrong then so is Jesus ****ing Christ. Thou shalt not masturbate either.

Braincase
09-13-2007, 01:32 PM
Please elaborate on the difference(s) between a religion and a cult.

A cult will tell you that you can only have friends that are members of the cult, abandon family that is not a member of the cult, and that the cult is the only way you can get to heaven.

I'm Catholic, but I have friends that are Jewish, Muslim, Hindu, and even a couple of Baptists.

If your church demands that you abandon your non-church friends and family, that's a cult, and a cult can seriously fawk you up for life.

sedated
09-13-2007, 01:32 PM
Yes any form of contraception is wrong

even using Natural Family planing as strictly NOT to have children is wrong withough Grave reason

are you saying God's will is not more powerful than a thin layer of rubber?

Jenson71
09-13-2007, 01:33 PM
are condoms a sin too?

The Catholic Church considers condoms wrong. Actually, there's a lot of controversy about condom use in Africa, where, of course, AIDs is a huge concern there. No doubt, all forms of contraception are a big issue of debate in the Vatican. In America, I doubt many people follow the Church's teaching on this. And probably not just in America either.

sedated
09-13-2007, 01:34 PM
If your church demands that you abandon your non-church friends and family, that's a cult, and a cult can seriously fawk you up for life.

the church doesn't demand it, they just encourage it.

if you were devote enough, you would do it of your own free will (which apparently doesn't exist, so...I've just brain-f*cked myself)

luv
09-13-2007, 01:34 PM
eh eh eh eh eh.... no sir... I am sure if spilling sperm is wrong then so is Jesus ****ing Christ. Thou shalt not masturbate either.
If masturbating is a sin, then the world is full of sinners. If they say they dont, well, lying is a sin too.

Count Alex's Wins
09-13-2007, 01:34 PM
are you saying God's will is not more powerful than a thin layer of rubber?

Let's see him spin this one...

Jilly
09-13-2007, 01:34 PM
no, no, no, It's God's "Will" for people in Africa to get AIDS, who are we to prevent it??? For f-ing freaking ridiculous.

luv
09-13-2007, 01:35 PM
the church doesn't demand it, they just encourage it.

if you were devote enough, you would do it of your own free will (which apparently doesn't exist, so...I've just brain-f*cked myself)
You better not have used a condom.

Ultra Peanut
09-13-2007, 01:37 PM
The Catholic Church considers condoms wrong. Which is absolutely ****ing disgusting.

no, no, no, It's God's "Will" for people in Africa to get AIDS, who are we to prevent it??? For f-ing freaking ridiculous.To carry this over from another thread, they're getting AIDS in order to glorify God.

Braincase
09-13-2007, 01:37 PM
Who the **** would want six ****ing kids? Are you ****ing kidding me?

I would. But then again, I'm a good dad. Some assholes should never breed in the first place. But enough about your parents...

Calcountry
09-13-2007, 01:37 PM
Congrats, dude.

chasedude
09-13-2007, 01:38 PM
Every sperm is sacred...

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Saulbadguy
09-13-2007, 01:39 PM
I would. But then again, I'm a good dad. Some assholes should never breed in the first place. But enough about your parents...
http://www.duggarfamily.com/

These guys up are to #17.

luv
09-13-2007, 01:42 PM
http://www.duggarfamily.com/

These guys up are to #17.
They aired a couple of shows about them on TLC while they were building their own house.

chasedude
09-13-2007, 01:42 PM
http://www.duggarfamily.com/

These guys up are to #17.

:hmmm: No privacy in that house

Braincase
09-13-2007, 01:44 PM
no, no, no, It's God's "Will" for people in Africa to get AIDS, who are we to prevent it??? For f-ing freaking ridiculous.

If people were practicing monogamy, that would probably aid in the prevention of STD's, dontcha think?

Jenson71
09-13-2007, 01:45 PM
http://www.duggarfamily.com/

These guys up are to #17.

Wow. That's . . . old school. My grandma was one of 13, but that wasn't so uncommon around the time.

I always thought though, that if you have more kids, there's more of a chance that something bad, like a death, could happen. That'd be pretty tough. I wonder if all 17 will make it to adulthood. Without checking any facts, I'd guess that that would be beating the odds. I also guess they don't/can't think about that.

Count Alex's Wins
09-13-2007, 01:46 PM
I'd like to share a revelation that I've had, during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species. I realized that you're not actually mammals. Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You move to an area and you multiply, and multiply until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus.

Ultra Peanut
09-13-2007, 01:48 PM
If people were practicing monogamy, that would probably aid in the prevention of STD's, dontcha think?Monogamy's awesome and all, but I think condoms are just a weeee bit better than hoping your partner's as faithful as you are.

But yeah, let's just hold them ****in' savages to our arbitrary cultural standards, and actively work to keep information on how to avoid HORRIFIC diseases from them.

Saulbadguy
09-13-2007, 01:48 PM
Wow. That's . . . old school. My grandma was one of 13, but that wasn't so uncommon around the time.

I always thought though, that if you have more kids, there's more of a chance that something bad, like a death, could happen. That'd be pretty tough. I wonder if all 17 will make it to adulthood. Without checking any facts, I'd guess that that would be beating the odds. I also guess they don't/can't think about that.
Someone's gotta push the plow.

Jenson71
09-13-2007, 01:52 PM
Who the **** would want six ****ing kids? Are you ****ing kidding me?

Well, I know lots of families with that many or more kids. My girlfriend is one of 8 children. My mom is one of 6. My dad is one of 5. Vito Corleone, another Catholic, had 4 kids. :)

ChiTown
09-13-2007, 01:52 PM
Who the **** would want six ****ing kids? Are you ****ing kidding me?

Well.....

My Mom was the oldest of 7 kids. My Dad was the youngest of 10 kids. My oldest brother has 8 kids, and my sister has 6. My two other brothers have 4 kids apiece, and I'm the black sheep with 3 kids.

Count Alex's Wins
09-13-2007, 01:53 PM
Well.....

My Mom was the oldest of 7 kids. My Dad was the youngest of 10 kids. My oldest brother has 8 kids, and my sister has 6. My two other brothers have 4 kids apiece, and I'm the black sheep with 3 kids.

Congratulations on breaking the cycle of irresponsibility.

Fish
09-13-2007, 01:54 PM
Well.....

My Mom was the oldest of 7 kids. My Dad was the youngest of 10 kids. My oldest brother has 8 kids, and my sister has 6. My two other brothers have 4 kids apiece, and I'm the black sheep with 3 kids.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/161/430185008_e95eff8ff6_o.jpg

Jilly
09-13-2007, 01:54 PM
If people were practicing monogamy, that would probably aid in the prevention of STD's, dontcha think?

That's ****ing ridiculous if you think that we can get the WHOLE world to practice monogamy! ....tell that to a woman in Africa being raped or a woman in Africa practicing prostitution so that she can feed her ****ing family who's starving to death. "sorry, we're working on it. Sure there will be some casualties in the process. We just got to get dumb ass Joe here at Tanner's to not bang this hot chick, who then bangs this other guy and gives him Joe's AIDS right before he goes to Africa and has sex with a prostitute while he's working in the mines". SHIT, THAT's it! Let's get everyone to be monogamous.

For ****'s sake though, let's not hand out condoms.... it wouldn't be God's will.

Saulbadguy
09-13-2007, 01:55 PM
Congratulations on breaking the cycle of irresponsibility.
Hey, I dislike kids as much as the next child-less guy, but you can support them, why not?

Saulbadguy
09-13-2007, 01:56 PM
That's ****ing ridiculous if you think that we can get the WHOLE world to practice monogamy! ....tell that to a woman in Africa being raped or a woman in Africa practicing prostitution so that she can feed her ****ing family who's starving to death. "sorry, we're working on it. Sure there will be some casualties in the process. We just got to get dumb ass Joe here at Tanner's to not bang this hot chick, who then bangs this other guy and gives him Joe's AIDS right before he goes to Africa and has sex with a prostitute while he's working in the mines". SHIT, THAT's it! Let's get everyone to be monogamous.
Who the hell cares about some dumb ****ing whore in Africa? Let her and her family die for all I care.

Jilly
09-13-2007, 01:57 PM
Who the hell cares about some dumb ****ing whore in Africa? Let her and her family die for all I care.

Please tell me you're being sarcastic.

Ultra Peanut
09-13-2007, 01:57 PM
And hey, it's easy for dudes in white robes to say shit when they're not the ones living in a disease-riddled hellhole/getting pregnant because their abstinence-only education failed to keep them from acting on their natural urges that one night.

HemiEd
09-13-2007, 01:58 PM
I would. But then again, I'm a good dad. Some assholes should never breed in the first place. But enough about your parents...

Yep, it is probably a good idea to be able to sustain yourself prior to having dependents.

ChiTown
09-13-2007, 02:00 PM
Congratulations on breaking the cycle of irresponsibility.

I often forget, here at the Planet, that I'm speaking with a great number of mindless, jobless children. So, I'll excuse your comment as just immaturity.

Skip Towne
09-13-2007, 02:05 PM
I have a buddy who has 6 kids. Just before the 6th was born he called and asked me to help him move. He said he f*cked himself out of his house.

Braincase
09-13-2007, 02:13 PM
That's ****ing ridiculous if you think that we can get the WHOLE world to practice monogamy! ....tell that to a woman in Africa being raped or a woman in Africa practicing prostitution so that she can feed her ****ing family who's starving to death. "sorry, we're working on it. Sure there will be some casualties in the process. We just got to get dumb ass Joe here at Tanner's to not bang this hot chick, who then bangs this other guy and gives him Joe's AIDS right before he goes to Africa and has sex with a prostitute while he's working in the mines". SHIT, THAT's it! Let's get everyone to be monogamous.

For ****'s sake though, let's not hand out condoms.... it wouldn't be God's will.

Hey, I'm just sayin' that if you practice monogamy, you have a reduced risk of getting an STD. If not, you assume the risk.How the hell are you going to get a rapist to use a condom?

InChiefsHell
09-13-2007, 02:18 PM
The world would be done with accidental pregnancy and sexually transmitted diseases if people would be monogamous. This has always been the case. In today's modern world, we try to find ways around this truth, but in the end, it's the Truth, and it don't change...

...here's to hoping that one of you anti-religious types replies to this post with the most ignorant, lunatic, profanity filled rants as you can muster. I don't want to feel alone...

Jilly
09-13-2007, 02:23 PM
Hey, I'm just sayin' that if you practice monogamy, you have a reduced risk of getting an STD. If not, you assume the risk.How the hell are you going to get a rapist to use a condom?

And I'm saying women in Africa cannot practice monogamy because they have no choice for their livelihood. However, condoms might seem a more logical solution, but the catholic church seems to say otherwise. I was not so much speaking to those women who are raped, which is another topic all together.

Ultra Peanut
09-13-2007, 02:25 PM
The world would be done with accidental pregnancy and sexually transmitted diseases if people would be monogamous. And if dirt was nutritious, nobody would starve!

Ultra Peanut
09-13-2007, 02:26 PM
Hey, I'm just sayin' that if you practice monogamy, you have a reduced risk of getting an STD. If not, you assume the risk.How the hell are you going to get a rapist to use a condom?Maybe if the rapist didn't have AIDS in the first place, his victim wouldn't suffer from it. Someone may be more concerned with his own wellbeing than that of others... if his people were allowed to understand the risks in the first place.

But no, it's far more reasonable to say TRUST ME DUDE JUST BE MONOGAMOUS IF NOT SUKS TO B U

InChiefsHell
09-13-2007, 02:27 PM
And if dirt was nutritious, nobody would starve!

Bad analogy. It is not possible for dirt to be nutritious. But it IS possible for people to be monogamous. They just choose not to. (Rape notwithstanding...) Sex is just too much fun, I guess it's worth the risk...

InChiefsHell
09-13-2007, 02:28 PM
Maybe if the rapist didn't have AIDS in the first place, his victim wouldn't suffer from it. Someone may be more concerned with his own wellbeing than that of others... if his people were allowed to understand the risks in the first place.

But no, it's far more reasonable to say TRUST ME DUDE JUST BE MONOGAMOUS IF NOT SUKS TO B U

His people?

Ultra Peanut
09-13-2007, 02:29 PM
Bad analogy. It is not possible for dirt to be nutritious. But it IS possible for people to be monogamous.And it IS possible to have sex without getting an STD. It's called a condom, and it's eeeeeeevil.

Sex is just too much fun, I guess it's worth the risk...SEX IS ICKY EWWWWWWW

Jilly
09-13-2007, 02:29 PM
The world would be done with accidental pregnancy and sexually transmitted diseases if people would be monogamous. This has always been the case. In today's modern world, we try to find ways around this truth, but in the end, it's the Truth, and it don't change...

...here's to hoping that one of you anti-religious types replies to this post with the most ignorant, lunatic, profanity filled rants as you can muster. I don't want to feel alone...


I get passionate, I'm sorry. But it is not up to you or to the gov't or any person to TELL another person how to live their life and more importantly, WHO to have sex with or how many partners one can have. It is up to us to educate as to the options available and to make resources available.

Ultra Peanut
09-13-2007, 02:30 PM
His people?You know, the people in Africa who are refused the opportunity to be provided with sex education that lets them know there are ways to avoid diseases that are currently ravaging the populace?

Thanks, Vatican! Your moral stand has made them so much closer to God (because they're all gonna die in their 20s!). Radical, dudes!

BucEyedPea
09-13-2007, 02:31 PM
Congratulations!
May you be blessed with ten more.

SLAG
09-13-2007, 02:31 PM
And I'm saying women in Africa cannot practice monogamy because they have no choice for their livelihood. However, condoms might seem a more logical solution, but the catholic church seems to say otherwise. I was not so much speaking to those women who are raped, which is another topic all together.
Thats a weak argument

They are not forced into prositution.. and if they are then they are a weak human that is not willing to stand up for themselfs they have the option to say NO

Like I posted earlier in this thread... they are starving because of wars between tribes... they starve because of courrput governments..

America could feed the rest of the world if we really tried or wanted to

Ultra Peanut
09-13-2007, 02:35 PM
Thats a weak argument

They are not forced into prositution.. and if they are then they are a weak human that is not willing to stand up for themselfs they have the option to say NOYour ignorance is staggering. Absolutely staggering.

It takes a special brand of moron to pretend to know better than everyone else while being incapable of understanding the simplest situations and predicaments that others around the globe are faced with.

I'm shocked, absolutely shocked, that you're so insular and ethnocentric.

Jilly
09-13-2007, 02:35 PM
Thats a weak argument

They are not forced into prositution.. and if they are then they are a weak human that is not willing to stand up for themselfs they have the option to say NO

Like I posted earlier in this thread... they are starving because of wars between tribes... they starve because of courrput governments..

America could feed the rest of the world if we really tried or wanted to

says the white guy living in America.

Who the hell are you to even presume to know the stature and strength of a woman in Africa?

Jenson71
09-13-2007, 02:35 PM
Which is absolutely ****ing disgusting.

A lot of people disagree with their thinking. I bet many Catholics even want the Church to "get with the times" or just be more open. For centuries, people have thought the Church was often too strict on issues dealing with sexuality. And many people point to Saint Augustine for the real origin of a lot of the thinking. And some people don't really like Saint Augustine.

It is a common fight. No one really disputes Catholic teaching on stealing or loving your enemy (which is a pretty bold idea). Everyone seems to see the idea in not lying, or not killing, or giving to the poor, or respecting your parents or attending mass. These are values everyone can get behind. But when it comes to sexuality, I think there will be conflict for a long time - because there always has been.

Also, in regards to this topic, I think lately there has been a lot of open discussion about the history of sexuality, not so much in the Church, but in universities and such. Even the History Channel has done shows on this, which I'd guess you've seen or would find interesting.

Tig O Bittys
09-13-2007, 02:37 PM
A catholic having a baby

like this is news

lay off the poor guy just say congrats or get the f*u*K out of this thread

Ultra Peanut
09-13-2007, 02:38 PM
says the white guy living in America.

Who the hell are you to even presume to know the stature and strength of a woman in Africa?SHE COULD JUST SAY NO OK

InChiefsHell
09-13-2007, 02:38 PM
And it IS possible to have sex without getting an STD. It's called a condom, and it's eeeeeeevil.

SEX IS ICKY EWWWWWWW
:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

You people kill me. No Catholic thinks sex is "ICKY"...but sex outside of marriage carries with it a risk that at the very least is not worth taking and...

...wait a minute. Why am I arguing here??

siberian khatru
09-13-2007, 02:39 PM
Man, WTF happened to this thread?

Ultra Peanut
09-13-2007, 02:40 PM
:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

You people kill me. No Catholic thinks sex is "ICKY"...but sex outside of marriage carries with it a risk that at the very least is not worth taking and...

...wait a minute. Why am I arguing here??1. Sex inside of marriage carries the same risk if your partner's unfaithful.
2. Monogamy can exist without marriage.
3. Many people will have had multiple sexual partners before finding the person that's right for them. And, wonder of wonders, knowledge of how sexually compatible you are with your partner can be beneficial to a relationship and eventual marriage.
4. It's no more "good" and "honorable" to just pick one person and be stuck with them than it is to actually make sure you're right for each other.

Saulbadguy
09-13-2007, 02:41 PM
Since when does the Catholic Church have authority or whether or not Africans can use condoms? Am I missing something here?

InChiefsHell
09-13-2007, 02:42 PM
I get passionate, I'm sorry. But it is not up to you or to the gov't or any person to TELL another person how to live their life and more importantly, WHO to have sex with or how many partners one can have. It is up to us to educate as to the options available and to make resources available.

Dude, I'm not telling anyone how the HAVE to live their lives, but I'm giving my opinion about how they SHOULD live their lives. It's still America, last I looked. God does not give people a mandate to stop people from sinning, but we feel obligated to give our opinion when it comes up.

...and some people can't handle that...

I get passionate too, it's all good. I just marvel at all the extreme SHOUTING and **** and flaming that goes on in these exchanges...

Rausch
09-13-2007, 02:42 PM
says the white guy living in America.

Who the hell are you to even presume to know the stature and strength of a woman in Africa?

How does being a Black African woman exempt you from taking responsibility for your actions?

Why would it?...

Jilly
09-13-2007, 02:43 PM
yeah, i'm sorry. I got carried away. I said, Congratulations, SLAG and your wife!!!

InChiefsHell
09-13-2007, 02:43 PM
Sex inside of marriage carries the same risk if your partner's unfaithful.

Duh. This is true. So, hence the need for being monogamous. Thanks for making my point.

Rausch
09-13-2007, 02:43 PM
Man, WTF happened to this thread?

He didn't use a condom?...

Ultra Peanut
09-13-2007, 02:46 PM
Duh. This is true. So, hence the need for being monogamous. Thanks for making my point.Oh, sorry. I thought we were talking about the real world again, rather than the Candyland where everyone should be perfect so we're just going to act like they are.

InChiefsHell
09-13-2007, 02:46 PM
You know, the people in Africa who are refused the opportunity to be provided with sex education that lets them know there are ways to avoid diseases that are currently ravaging the populace?

Thanks, Vatican! Your moral stand has made them so much closer to God (because they're all gonna die in their 20s!). Radical, dudes!

Yes, the Vatican Police are stopping this knowledge from being disseminated to the poor African people...:rolleyes:

I thought that all those OTHER organizations might be doing that...are you saying that the Catholic Church CONTROLS the continent of Africa and therefore all the aide that comes into that country? You really think there are no other relief organizations there besides the "Vatican"??

I believe you need to get a grip my friend.

Brock
09-13-2007, 02:47 PM
Man, WTF happened to this thread?

People with serious, serious issues.

HemiEd
09-13-2007, 02:48 PM
Man, WTF happened to this thread?
ROFL ROFL

Jenson71
09-13-2007, 02:48 PM
Since when does the Catholic Church have authority or whether or not Africans can use condoms? Am I missing something here?

It has just as much authority there as it does here. That is to say, basically no "real" authority. Only influence.

InChiefsHell
09-13-2007, 02:48 PM
Man, WTF happened to this thread?

Simple. All the Hatazz showed up. Happens every time...

InChiefsHell
09-13-2007, 02:50 PM
Oh, sorry. I thought we were talking about the real world again, rather than the Candyland where everyone should be perfect so we're just going to act like they are.


:rolleyes: Apology accepted. :p

Groves
09-13-2007, 02:55 PM
Congrats, Slag. Keep filling the quiver. Awesome.

We can't have anymore, but we'd love more, so I'll take any kids that you guys don't want anymore.

el borracho
09-13-2007, 03:17 PM
I want small people of my own someday. About 5-6 would be nice. I've never heard of anyone considering that irresponsible.
Agree or disagree, I think you would find this interesting.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_Connection

el borracho
09-13-2007, 03:18 PM
A cult will tell you that you can only have friends that are members of the cult, abandon family that is not a member of the cult, and that the cult is the only way you can get to heaven.

I'm Catholic, but I have friends that are Jewish, Muslim, Hindu, and even a couple of Baptists.

If your church demands that you abandon your non-church friends and family, that's a cult, and a cult can seriously fawk you up for life.
How did you arrive at those conclusions?

SLAG
09-13-2007, 03:23 PM
Agree or disagree, I think you would find this interesting.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_Connection

I quote again In fact, when I was in high school, we had posters of globes with human beings falling off the globe, it was so crowded. But there actually have been no two people who have been more wrong than Malthus and Paul Ehrlich. I recommend books, one by a man named Julian Simon, and another named Ben Wattenburg, who are demographers. And there are many others such as Jacqueline Kasun, who have looked at their work.

Malthus said that the population would increase geometrically and the food supplies would only, at best, increase arithmetically. The population has increased enormously. That's not necessarily bad news. That's just a fact. It has increased enormously. The good news is that the food supply is wildly better off than Malthus ever dreamed. The United States could quite easily feed the rest of the globe. It's not a problem. Modern agricultural techniques have exponentially increased our food supply. And they say we haven't even begun to mine the ocean for food. And as for limited mineral resources, and that sort of thing, Malthus thought we certainly would run out of coal and copper and these sorts of things, but we actually have more coal and more copper now per person on the globe than Malthus thought we'd have at his time. We've discovered more resources, and we need them less because we have such things as atomic energy.

So I'm not here to argue against the population scare. I'm just here to tell you that there is good reason to doubt it. And you might wonder why we see these emaciated children on TV starving. And we must be overpopulated-look at all these starving children. It has little to do with population. It has a great deal to do with one tribal or ethnic group hating and starving out another tribal and ethnic group. It has a great deal to do with corrupt governments and a failure to distribute food. It has a great deal to do with natural disasters that we can have little control over. But that was one of the reasons that we thought the Pill was going to be a great thing. It was going to help us with population problems.

el borracho
09-13-2007, 03:24 PM
Man, WTF happened to this thread?
People don't like SLAG's ideology. Many people are offended by the idea of people pooping out babies as often as possible until their uterus falls out.

HemiEd
09-13-2007, 03:24 PM
Agree or disagree, I think you would find this interesting.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_Connection

The two or less ideology was very popular when we had our two, 73 and 76. I wish now we would have had more. Everything else pales in comparison to having kids and participating in their rearin'.

el borracho
09-13-2007, 03:28 PM
SLAG, please evaluate the following statements and indicate which are true and which are false.

Natural resources are finite.

At some point the population could surpass the natural resources.

Every human on the planet likes to live in densely populated areas.

Population is increasing exponentially.

KCChiefsMan
09-13-2007, 03:29 PM
Don't you ****ing dare. SLAG is doing enough damage to the gene pool.

so not having a redneck baby is considered damage these days?

el borracho
09-13-2007, 03:30 PM
The two or less ideology was very popular when we had our two, 73 and 76. I wish now we would have had more. Everything else pales in comparison to having kids and participating in their rearin'.
I don't want to insult any one person in particular and this isn't aimed at you but...

If people have so much love to give to children why don't they adopt more often? Why is it necessary to bear your own children?

I have an answer but I would like to see what others say before I give it.

ChiTown
09-13-2007, 03:30 PM
People don't like SLAG's ideology. Many people are offended by the idea of people pooping out babies as often as possible until their uterus falls out.

wtf? Ideology, uterus falling out?

It amazes me how jaded some of you nitwits are. We're talking about a responsible parent having children - age be damned.

SLAG
09-13-2007, 03:31 PM
SLAG, please evaluate the following statements and indicate which are true and which are false.

Natural resources are finite. True

At some point the population could surpass the natural resources. FALSE

Every human on the planet likes to live in densely populated areas. FALSE

Population is increasing exponentially.Could be true Not sure but not relevent

Jenson71
09-13-2007, 03:33 PM
Agree or disagree, I think you would find this interesting.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_Connection

That is interesting. I knew there were country(ies) like China who has a one-child policy. I didn't realize there was a push to have something like that in America.

Chief Henry
09-13-2007, 03:37 PM
Way to go SLAG. Your swimmers are still a float :)

el borracho
09-13-2007, 03:39 PM
wtf? Ideology, uterus falling out?

It amazes me how jaded some of you nitwits are. We're talking about a responsible parent having children - age be damned.
SLAG is viewed as a religious nut. You can argue the veracity of that view but that is the perception. Generally speaking, people are not excited to see others breeding like fruit flies and even less so when they are religious nuts. Are people happy when the Phelps family breeds? Why not?

SLAG
09-13-2007, 03:42 PM
SLAG is viewed as a religious nut. You can argue the veracity of that view but that is the perception. Generally speaking, people are not excited to see others breeding like fruit flies and even less so when they are religious nuts. Are people happy when the Phelps family breeds? Why not?

Since when is a Catholic who follows the ruls a Religious Nut?

I never pushed my views on ANYONE or demanded that you do what I say

I simply laid my beliefs on the table and watched everyone else attack me for them

So much for freedom of relgion eh?

el borracho
09-13-2007, 03:46 PM
SLAG,

If you accept that resources are finite (and you indicate that you do) then you must realize that the potential drain on those resources must also be finite. I don't know what the magic number is but there is a number at which point the population would exceed the available resources. You say you aren't sure if the population is increasing exponentially? Do even a little research and you will see that it is.

You also indicate that, IYO, not every human on the planet likes to live in densely populated areas. Please extrapolate that idea and consider it in relation to population growth. Do you understand the relationship between these concepts?

Gonzo
09-13-2007, 03:46 PM
I've been married 8 years, been with her for 13 1/2. No kids, 120k house, 24k truck, do what I want when I want and I'm turning 31 tomorrow.

Ya, I guess that's why I dry-hump an old microwave oven that has a crack in the glass everyday after work. Kill those sperm baby.

el borracho
09-13-2007, 03:51 PM
Since when is a Catholic who follows the ruls a Religious Nut?

I never pushed my views on ANYONE or demanded that you do what I say

I simply laid my beliefs on the table and watched everyone else attack me for them

So much for freedom of relgion eh?
Dude,

I'm not saying what is and what isn't true; I'm telling you what the perception is. You understand that people are attacking your views. Did you really not know why? Did you really not know the perception of someone who adheres so closely to faith.

What is the perception of the man with the megaphone speaking of damnation and hellfire at Mardis Gras? What is the perception of Fred Phelps and his followers?

Again, I'm not saying that any of you are crazy in a clinical sense. But the perception is religious nut.

SLAG
09-13-2007, 03:53 PM
SLAG,

If you accept that resources are finite (and you indicate that you do) then you must realize that the potential drain on those resources must also be finite. I don't know what the magic number is but there is a number at which point the population would exceed the available resources. You say you aren't sure if the population is increasing exponentially? Do even a little research and you will see that it is.

You also indicate that, IYO, not every human on the planet likes to live in densely populated areas. Please extrapolate that idea and consider it in relation to population growth. Do you understand the relationship between these concepts?


The population may or may not be increasing exponetinally.. the term exponetially can be subjective and the actual amount may be radically high to you but not to someone else

All of this is in theory and and very ideological at the current time food and land resources are fine.. who knows what the future holds speculate all you want

The only question I ask you is if the world is over populated.. how do we know that you are not the overpopulation?

Count Alex's Wins
09-13-2007, 03:53 PM
I've been married 8 years, been with her for 13 1/2. No kids, 120k house, 24k truck, do what I want when I want and I'm turning 31 tomorrow.

Ya, I guess that's why I dry-hump an old microwave oven that has a crack in the glass everyday after work. Kill those sperm baby.

Word.

Braincase
09-13-2007, 03:53 PM
SLAG, please evaluate the following statements and indicate which are true and which are false.

Natural resources are finite.

At some point the population could surpass the natural resources.

Every human on the planet likes to live in densely populated areas.

Population is increasing exponentially.


The universe is expanding and new stars and galaxies are being created. Who's to say that natural resources are finite? We find a way to get off this rock, and we've got an entire galaxy waiting for us to terraform. The more kids we have, the more motivation we have to explore beyond our own solar system, as well as increasing the chances that those kids have the gifts necessary to achieve the technical goals that will make it happen.

Reality, the population will never surpass the natural resources.

StcChief
09-13-2007, 03:55 PM
Since when is a Catholic who follows the ruls a Religious Nut?

I never pushed my views on ANYONE or demanded that you do what I say

I simply laid my beliefs on the table and watched everyone else attack me for them

So much for freedom of relgion eh?
Congrats again man....

Ignore them. Children aren't for everyone, some are better off without them. Others aren't ready yet....

The world will thank the fact that some don't reproduce.

HemiEd
09-13-2007, 04:00 PM
I don't want to insult any one person in particular and this isn't aimed at you but...

If people have so much love to give to children why don't they adopt more often? Why is it necessary to bear your own children?

I have an answer but I would like to see what others say before I give it.

In our particular situation, only after our nest was empty did we decide it would have been nice to have more. Too late, I got cut two weeks after the second one was born. Furthermore we were not strongly enough commited to the idea, that we would pursue the adoption route.
Grandchildren will have to do.

But while you are on your population control soapbox, consider this. The responsible parenting, from us baby boomers, is going to result in catastrophic economic consequences in the world economy about 4 more decades down the road.

el borracho
09-13-2007, 04:03 PM
The population may or may not be increasing exponetinally.. the term exponetially can be subjective and the actual amount may be radically high to you but not to someone else

All of this is in theory and and very ideological at the current time food and land resources are fine.. who knows what the future holds speculate all you want

The only question I ask you is if the world is over populated.. how do we know that you are not the overpopulation?
Overpopulated is subjective at this point, you are correct about that. At some population point it would cease being subjective and become truth. There is some population number that would exceed the Earth's resources. Please note, I'm not saying we are there now, nor that we will reach that number in our lifetimes nor that we will reach that number ever. I am only saying that such a number is possible (this point is not subjective). Population increases bring us closer to that number(also not subjective).

You, yourself, admit that not everyone wants to live in a densely populated area. Population growth is reducing the options for those that would choose to live outside densely populated areas. Again, I am not saying the options are all gone now, nor am I saying they are almost gone. I am saying that population growth leads us in that direction.

As to "how do we know that you are not the overpopulation?" I guess we don't. But, to date, I haven't exacerbated the problem.

crazycoffey
09-13-2007, 04:06 PM
congrats!

el borracho
09-13-2007, 04:11 PM
The universe is expanding and new stars and galaxies are being created. Who's to say that natural resources are finite? We find a way to get off this rock, and we've got an entire galaxy waiting for us to terraform. The more kids we have, the more motivation we have to explore beyond our own solar system, as well as increasing the chances that those kids have the gifts necessary to achieve the technical goals that will make it happen.

Reality, the population will never surpass the natural resources.
The resources we know about are finite. At this time there are no other resources accessible to us.

Also, zero population growth ideas are not based solely on what the planet could sustain as a maximum but looking at what the planet should contain as a best case scenario. Do you want to live somewhere as densely populated as Mexico City? Mumbai? Delhi? I wouldn't. I wouldn't even want to live in Chicago or New York or L.A.

el borracho
09-13-2007, 04:15 PM
In our particular situation, only after our nest was empty did we decide it would have been nice to have more. Too late, I got cut two weeks after the second one was born. Furthermore we were not strongly enough commited to the idea, that we would pursue the adoption route.
Grandchildren will have to do.

But while you are on your population control soapbox, consider this. The responsible parenting, from us baby boomers, is going to result in catastrophic economic consequences in the world economy about 4 more decades down the road.
Ok, so in your case you didn't want more kids at the time so you chose not to adopt. Anyone else care to explain why they decided to bear numerous children themselves as opposed to adopting children?

And what "catastrophic economic consequences in the world economy" are you talking about?

HemiEd
09-13-2007, 04:35 PM
Ok, so in your case you didn't want more kids at the time so you chose not to adopt. Anyone else care to explain why they decided to bear numerous children themselves as opposed to adopting children?

And what "catastrophic economic consequences in the world economy" are you talking about?

Jeremy Seigal, a very well respected economist and advisor to the President explained it to us at a seminar.

No way can I do it justice, since he spent about an hour and a half, with graphs, props etc. But I will do my best with a "readers digest version" from my pea brain.

We have limited the workforce size in the U.S., resulting in limited buying power of assets, the retirees wish to devest of, in order to retire.

Simultaneously, China and India, have their work forces growing at astronomical rates, as their economies develop.

End result, they will be the ones with the buying power, to purchase the assets of those future American generations when they plan on retiring.

el borracho
09-13-2007, 04:41 PM
Hmm, I'm not an economist but I'm fairly certain that a larger workforce isn't necessary to have an economically sound workforce. We have been outsourcing manufacturing for years while I believe we have seen an increase in more technical and managerial functions. We might have less production but we should retain buying power with our superior information services and technical advantages.

HemiEd
09-13-2007, 04:52 PM
Hmm, I'm not an economist but I'm fairly certain that a larger workforce isn't necessary to have an economically sound workforce. We have been outsourcing manufacturing for years while I believe we have seen an increase in more technical and managerial functions. We might have less production but we should retain buying power with our superior information services and technical advantages.

You missed the point entirely, probably due to my poor explanation. The outsourcing horse is already out of the barn. Their economies have already taken off. It is all about the numbers, pure population numbers. His point was, if we stopped outsourcing tomorrow, it would not matter. We will not have the population to generate the economy dollars to compete.

Mr. Flopnuts
09-13-2007, 05:05 PM
This thread is almost as big of a trainwreck as Slag's life will be when the wife comes home one day claiming to see the light and convert to Judaism. All kidding aside, congratulations dude. Even though we don't share the same religious ideologies, I respect that you are a man of conviction and purpose in a world full of so many with none. Best wishes to you and your family.

The Bad Guy
09-13-2007, 05:11 PM
What is truly hilarious in this thread is that GoChiefs is chiming in. The man who has only seen a vagina on the internet, in print or by spying on his sister. Who the **** are you to talk about anything responsible when you still live at home, don't have a real job, likely don't pay a single bill and will likely never get the opportunity to have an offspring.

Ultra Peanut
09-13-2007, 06:29 PM
so not having a redneck baby is considered damage these days?You better find a really goddamn smart woman, is all I'm saying.

Iowanian
09-13-2007, 09:09 PM
Why in the name of Charlie Brown is the Catholic Church supposed to be responsible for providing something, against its teachings to AFRICA?

Is the Pope supposed to speed through Rwanda throwing parade candy and condoms from the Popemobile?

Catholic Charities is pretty busy providing schools, orphanages, medicine, clinics and providing more food than any charity in the world.

maybe you, sedated and the exploding hotdog can take care of providing the condoms you're so outraged about.

UPS delivers to Africa. Get right on that.

that all said.....the ridiculous bullshit being thrown in a thread about the impending birth of a planet members child is......pathetic.

And I'm saying women in Africa cannot practice monogamy because they have no choice for their livelihood. However, condoms might seem a more logical solution, but the catholic church seems to say otherwise. I was not so much speaking to those women who are raped, which is another topic all together.

Iowanian
09-13-2007, 09:16 PM
Nature will deal with any Over-population issues.

Well, Nature, famine, tsunami, earthquake, disease.....and man will take care of the rest with War, genocide, and inproving medicine and food production with less land.

Jilly
09-13-2007, 09:17 PM
Iowanian, what have I done to you? It seems like since I've ever been on this Planet you've done nothing but call me ridiculous or been out right rude to me. Are you just cranky? Do I just rub you the wrong way?

I apologized earlier for ever saying anything in this thread about any of this and dropped the subject all together, therefore not finishing my thoughts, and yet you quote me, and become condescending and rude?

And while you ridicule others for talking about this "bullshit" in a birth thread, you had to begin your whole post with satire regarding that very thing.

Iowanian
09-13-2007, 09:24 PM
I've never remotely come close to attacking you, anyone who has been here a long time knows that would be obvious. Maybe I read a few paragraphs of your diatribe and replied....you're responsible for the words you type that form my opinions. Deal with it like a big boy.

Jilly
09-13-2007, 09:30 PM
I've never remotely come close to attacking you, anyone who has been here a long time knows that would be obvious. Maybe I read a few paragraphs of your diatribe and replied....you're responsible for the words you type that form my opinions. Deal with it like a big boy.

ok, I must be overreacting.
:rolleyes:

Iowanian
09-13-2007, 09:33 PM
I think so.

I admit, I find alot of your posts annoying in that "hey boys, look at me I sure have a wet vagina...I think I'll rub tits with another girl" kind of way. You were tardy for the Class of Sept 05, but a perfect fit.

Jilly
09-13-2007, 09:37 PM
I think so.

I admit, I find alot of your posts annoying in that "hey boys, look at me I sure have a wet vagina...I think I'll rub tits with another girl" kind of way. You were tardy for the Class of Sept 05, but a perfect fit.

yeah, i totally deserve that comment. thanks for setting me straight.