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RedThat
09-15-2007, 06:18 PM
I know most of us are frustrated, and pissed off.

But Im just talking in general.

Like over the years. I know I love to watch football and I always have rooted for the Chiefs.

But when I say a grown hatred, I refer to the fact how this team has done nothing but given us constant disappointments over the years. Like zero playoff wins, no superbowls, failure to draft and develop good players, keeping the same GM, failure to hire a "Balanced" coach, the list goes on and on.

What Im referring to is the way this organization operates as a whole. You know keeping the same GM running the show when it is clear the bottomline is he has provided us nothing but failure.

As a fan, Im pissed off and dissapointed. But yet it seems like ownership is content with the job Carl has done during his tenure here?

I've heard around here that Clark wants to win, well if he does then why did he give Carl a contract extension?

I know this MAY sound stupid, and Im probably gonna get criticized...But hey bash away, I might deserve it... In a way I hope this franchise pays for there sorry asses. the fans aren't getting what they want, it is clear some of us aren't happy. So with that being said, out of pure hate, I hope they finish 1-15...and lose fanbase this year, next year, and the next and so on. I will laugh in the process just at the fact that we are a laughing stock...hey, were headed in that direction anyway? Especially with this coach and GM.

What Im saying is, maybe they need a cold slap in the face. And then maybe they can turn this franchise around?

*I will never believe that Clark wants to win till I see changes in the FO.

*I love the Chiefs, and I hate them too.

Claynus
09-15-2007, 06:19 PM
My hatred for the front office and PR department grows by the week.

Can't find it within myself to hate the players or coaches.

L.A. Chieffan
09-15-2007, 06:20 PM
If I "hate" something I don't sit and talk about it and give it money and time.

Deberg_1990
09-15-2007, 06:20 PM
Love the team, hate the sinners running the team...

Mr. Laz
09-15-2007, 06:20 PM
hatred .... no


resentment .... yea, and it's getting worse.

Wilson
09-15-2007, 06:20 PM
Not the players or even the coaches but Carl Peterson and the people that allow him to continue...hatred isn't the right word but loathing may be.

Anyong Bluth
09-15-2007, 06:21 PM
No. 1st season in a long while we're gonna struggle. People's frustrations w/ the team staying mediocre were going to require some struggles, but of course no one wants to actually endure it. but, whatever...

Direckshun
09-15-2007, 06:22 PM
Nah.

It's sports.

Mr. Laz
09-15-2007, 06:23 PM
No. 1st season in a long while we're gonna struggle. People's frustrations w/ the team staying mediocre were going to require some struggles, but of course no one wants to actually endure it. but, whatever...

this isn't about THIS YEAR ...... it's about all the years leading up.


but, whatever :cuss:

mikey23545
09-15-2007, 06:24 PM
Some of you need to be on medication.

DaFace
09-15-2007, 06:24 PM
Nah.

It's sports.

Exactly. If you are attached to the team to the point of feeling hatred, that's probably not healthy. I love the Chiefs, and it sucks when they lose, but I don't lose any sleep over it.

TN_Chief
09-15-2007, 06:26 PM
Towards the "Chiefs"...no. Towards Carl and the coaching staff...yes. And the Hunts are going to get a place on my shit list if they don't deal with Carmen Peterwards pretty damn soon.

HypnotizedMonkey
09-15-2007, 06:31 PM
if you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen.

RedThat
09-15-2007, 06:32 PM
Ok I maybe I shouldn't say hatred.

That probably isn't the right word to use.

Frustration, and resent...should probably be the correct word "applied" in this case.

After all, the chiefs are our team, and we are gonna cheer for them? :shrug:

RedThat
09-15-2007, 06:38 PM
if you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen.

what if the heat is too high cranked to the point where you burn too much inside emotionally?

The constant disappointments, and letdowns...Like zero playoff wins, no superbowls, consistent mediocrity, etc, etc. Like whats happening now.

The boiling point has reaked its peak, I want this front office cleared.

*The Chefs need to get out of the kitchen.

It time for some CHIEFS!!!! A real organization and a GREAT football team

HypnotizedMonkey
09-15-2007, 06:40 PM
then you go out cheering.

Ari Chi3fs
09-15-2007, 06:41 PM
I hate RedBull. That drink sucks.

underEJ
09-15-2007, 06:52 PM
Sports are value added in my life. Wins and success of teams I support, and buy tickets for, make me really really happy, but I don't take on the losses and disappointments.

I often take the Chiefs express to games, and I'm always surprised by the negativity of fans, so I think alot of people do take on that disappointment pretty heavily.

luv
09-15-2007, 06:57 PM
I hate RedBull. That drink sucks.
Jager sucks by itself too. Put them together though....

Logical
09-15-2007, 07:02 PM
hatred .... no


resentment .... yea, and it's getting worse.Ditto

Halfcan
09-15-2007, 07:03 PM
I will always hate the Faders, Cheatin Donks, Colts and Bolts 100 times more than I ever could the Cheaps.

Wilson
09-15-2007, 07:51 PM
No. 1st season in a long while we're gonna struggle. People's frustrations w/ the team staying mediocre were going to require some struggles, but of course no one wants to actually endure it. but, whatever...

I understand that perspective but then I look at the situation and realize we have a QB that will be retired in 3 years starting for us. Then I look back on history and see how the "bounced back" from a year like this with the same people running the show and lose all hope.

No problem with a bad season if the means justify the ends but I have no faith in the personal behind the scenes to be able to capitalize on this opportunity.

It's not as simple as the fans have no patience. Many of us do and are pretty much begging for a rebuild but it's tough to swallow when you have no faith in the brain trusts doing the rebuild.

SNR
09-15-2007, 07:53 PM
To be fair, didn't we ask for this kind of season? We all wanted to lose now to slap this team in the face and wake them up.

Wilson
09-15-2007, 07:56 PM
To be fair, didn't we ask for this kind of season? We all wanted to lose now to slap this team in the face and wake them up.

I begged for a rebuild and although I'm not an football expert, judging by successful NFL teams a QB might be important in the whole rebuild process.

And I'm not looking to rehash the starting Huard argument for the 1000th time but the fact remains we have no QB getting experience when this is the time to do it.

RedThat
09-15-2007, 08:17 PM
Sports are value added in my life. Wins and success of teams I support, and buy tickets for, make me really really happy, but I don't take on the losses and disappointments.

I often take the Chiefs express to games, and I'm always surprised by the negativity of fans, so I think alot of people do take on that disappointment pretty heavily.

From reading your post I think I can understand what you're saying.

I think you have a different outlook and less of an expectation. Perhaps you watch the games for entertainment, excitement only?

I know I've always wanted my team to win. Heck that is the purpose as to why I cheer for them? I guess that is why Im disappointed? Because I haven't seen enough success from the Chiefs. And I'll bet that is why others watch their team too, to see them win....And since we haven't seen that from the Chiefs, many of us come to known what to expect?

Maybe that is the reasoning of all the negativity?

Bearcat
09-15-2007, 08:23 PM
None of the above.

Apathy.

I was a diehard when I was in high school and college, but I've learned over the years that it's not worth the disappointment and anger. Instead of getting pumped up for a game on the Tuesday before the game, if I get really pumped up for it, it's not until kickoff... then when it's over, it's not "why the hell did I spend this week getting my hopes up?!??!"

then you go out cheering.

Ah, yes... the fan who believes "true fan" = "glutton for punishment". These threads wouldn't be complete without it.

RJ
09-15-2007, 08:24 PM
If I were going to hate this team it would have happened a long time before now. Obviously it is frustrating. If success is measured in championships (I'd say it is) then the Chiefs are one of the worst franchises in professional sports.....not just football, in all sports.

But I am a Chiefs fan. I got my Super Bowl when I was 11 years old, I was hooked and I'm still a junkie. They are my team and will be as long as I breathe.

But I wouldn't mind if they'd go ahead and win something now and again....like a playoff game for instance.

HypnotizedMonkey
09-15-2007, 08:27 PM
Jager sucks by itself too. Put them together though....


Smartest thing I've heard all day.





None of the above.

Apathy.

I was a diehard when I was in high school and college, but I've learned over the years that it's not worth the disappointment and anger. Instead of getting pumped up for a game on the Tuesday before the game, if I get really pumped up for it, it's not until kickoff... then when it's over, it's not "why the hell did I spend this week getting my hopes up?!??!"

You need some Viagra.

The Bad Guy
09-15-2007, 08:34 PM
No. 1st season in a long while we're gonna struggle. People's frustrations w/ the team staying mediocre were going to require some struggles, but of course no one wants to actually endure it. but, whatever...

We've struggled every year basically since 1997 with the exception of 2003 and 2005.

This team has always let down the fans in one way or another. Whether it's scoring 30 points only to allow 31, or for the offense to suck nuts, when you haven't won a playoff game in 14 years - you are struggling.

I'll endure rebuilding if we actually have a plan and someone smart enough to execute the plan.

I don't think this team has any direction what so ever. They talk one way and do something completely the opposite.

This team really has no long term answers at O-line, cornerback, or defensive tackle. 3 of the most positions on a football team. The QB position is shaky at best.

It's just sickening.

Otter
09-15-2007, 08:46 PM
We've struggled every year basically since 1997 with the exception of 2003 and 2005.

This team has always let down the fans in one way or another. Whether it's scoring 30 points only to allow 31, or for the offense to suck nuts, when you haven't won a playoff game in 14 years - you are struggling.

I'll endure rebuilding if we actually have a plan and someone smart enough to execute the plan.

I don't think this team has any direction what so ever. They talk one way and do something completely the opposite.

This team really has no long term answers at O-line, cornerback, or defensive tackle. 3 of the most positions on a football team. The QB position is shaky at best.

It's just sickening.

Yep.

Even if the team does come together, probably strong on defense and sucking at offense, we still have no QB and will be hanging our hopes on some journey man from another team.

I've lost all hope in the people running the show and frankly don't care anymore. I don't plan on making time to watch any games and will pump no more currency into this team until Peterson in GONE.

I'm on hiatus.

gblowfish
09-15-2007, 08:48 PM
I'm working on a freestyle rap that will help alleviate my frustration.
I plan to put it on My Space when it's done.

It's the George Blowfish Frustration Freestyle Rap:

Goes Something like this:

KICK IT ON DA ONE...

I can't get amped
Lick me like a stamp

The Chiefs take a Dive
Like it's 1985

Hey Carl, FU
FU to Herm Too

It's all Jacked Up
Priest is on PUP

Larry got his money
His rappin ain't funny

When We Go Six and Ten
We draft like sh*t again

Clark Hunt Don't Care
The Money's Still There

We Goin Nowhere's
After losin' to Da Bears

So You Can Go To Hell
You're the Best Fans......








In Da NFL.





Don't forget to renew
Yo Season Ticket, Fool.

Out.

blueballs
09-15-2007, 08:49 PM
IMO
0-16 Chiefs is better than no Chiefs at all
but I do hate some of the whinning on here

Spott
09-15-2007, 08:50 PM
More like ambivalence instead of hatred.

HypnotizedMonkey
09-15-2007, 08:50 PM
Nice rap G-Blow

blueballs
09-15-2007, 08:50 PM
the NFC has sucked for years
top of the line draft picks for years
and only a few out of 16 are even average

munkey
09-15-2007, 08:51 PM
Yep.

Even if the team does come together, probably strong on defense and sucking at offense, we still have no QB and will be hanging our hopes on some journey man from another team.

I've lost all hope in the people running the show and frankly don't care anymore. I don't plan on making time to watch any games and will pump no more currency into this team until Peterson in GONE.

I'm on hiatus.

Yep...

I'm golfing on Sunday's from here on out... :)

Coach
09-15-2007, 08:51 PM
My hatred isn't towards the Chiefs, as the franchise.

My hatred is torwards Carl F**king Delano Peterson and Herman F**king Edwards.

munkey
09-15-2007, 08:52 PM
IMO
0-16 Chiefs is better than no Chiefs at all
but I do hate some of the whinning on here

:bravo:

RustShack
09-15-2007, 08:52 PM
I LOVE THE CHIEFS!!!

munkey
09-15-2007, 08:54 PM
IMO
0-16 Chiefs is better than no Chiefs at all
but I do hate some of the whinning on here

:bravo:

:Elvis:

RedThat
09-15-2007, 09:17 PM
I'll endure rebuilding if we actually have a plan and someone smart enough to execute the plan.

I don't think this team has any direction what so ever. They talk one way and do something completely the opposite.

This team really has no long term answers at O-line, cornerback, or defensive tackle. 3 of the most positions on a football team. The QB position is shaky at best.

It's just sickening.

And that is the most frustrating aspect of all, zero direction from this organization.

I'd have hope if I seen a sense of direction? But there is none.

And another thing that bothers me, is we've negated certain positions on this team for YEARS....It's like we can't address certain positions?

We haven't had a DT in over a decade.

We haven't had a REAL WR in years.

Carl Peterson sucks at drafting QB's. And we've never developed one either.

Carl Peterson just frikk'n sucks.

ChiefsFan4Life
09-15-2007, 09:19 PM
hatred .... no


resentment .... yea, and it's getting worse.

This sums it up for me too

Logical
09-15-2007, 09:24 PM
I'm working on a freestyle rap that will help alleviate my frustration.
I plan to put it on My Space when it's done.

It's the George Blowfish Frustration Freestyle Rap:

Goes Something like this:

KICK IT ON DA ONE...

I can't get amped
Lick me like a stamp

The Chiefs take a Dive
Like it's 1985

Hey Carl, FU
FU to Herm Too

It's all Jacked Up
Priest is on PUP

Larry got his money
His rappin ain't funny

When We Go Six and Ten
We draft like sh*t again

Clark Hunt Don't Care
The Money's Still There

We Goin Nowhere's
After losin' to Da Bears

So You Can Go To Hell
You're the Best Fans......








In Da NFL.





Don't forget to renew
Yo Season Ticket, Fool.

Out.Fine work as usual George.

stevieray
09-15-2007, 09:43 PM
it's jaeger...not jager, or mickjaggerbombs, as BRC calls them...

MadMax
09-15-2007, 10:33 PM
it's jaeger...not jager, or mickjaggerbombs, as BRC calls them...

I'll take a pitcher of em Stevie lol :)

MadMax
09-15-2007, 10:38 PM
I know most of us are frustrated, and pissed off.

But Im just talking in general.

Like over the years. I know I love to watch football and I always have rooted for the Chiefs.

But when I say a grown hatred, I refer to the fact how this team has done nothing but given us constant disappointments over the years. Like zero playoff wins, no superbowls, failure to draft and develop good players, keeping the same GM, failure to hire a "Balanced" coach, the list goes on and on.

What Im referring to is the way this organization operates as a whole. You know keeping the same GM running the show when it is clear the bottomline is he has provided us nothing but failure.

As a fan, Im pissed off and dissapointed. But yet it seems like ownership is content with the job Carl has done during his tenure here?

I've heard around here that Clark wants to win, well if he does then why did he give Carl a contract extension?

I know this MAY sound stupid, and Im probably gonna get criticized...But hey bash away, I might deserve it... In a way I hope this franchise pays for there sorry asses. the fans aren't getting what they want, it is clear some of us aren't happy. So with that being said, out of pure hate, I hope they finish 1-15...and lose fanbase this year, next year, and the next and so on. I will laugh in the process just at the fact that we are a laughing stock...hey, were headed in that direction anyway? Especially with this coach and GM.

What Im saying is, maybe they need a cold slap in the face. And then maybe they can turn this franchise around?

*I will never believe that Clark wants to win till I see changes in the FO.

*I love the Chiefs, and I hate them too.



I hear ya! lol I'll continue to watch the train wreck and piss and moan because i've been a masochist for 36 years....God, direction would be nice for a change.

Taco John
09-15-2007, 10:53 PM
As a Broncos fan who used to enjoy antagonizing Chiefs fans, once you hired Herm, it took all the fun out of it. I, for the life of me, will never understand why you hired a guy who had just finished a season at 4-12 when you could have chased a young up-and-comer like Mangini.

JOhn
09-15-2007, 11:09 PM
I hear ya! lol I'll continue to watch the train wreck and piss and moan because i've been a masochist for 36 years....God, direction would be nice for a change.
That just about sums it up for me. :shake:

Otter
09-15-2007, 11:10 PM
As a Broncos fan who used to enjoy antagonizing Chiefs fans, once you hired Herm, it took all the fun out of it. I, for the life of me, will never understand why you hired a guy who had just finished a season at 4-12 when you could have chased a young up-and-comer like Mangini.

I actually enjoy your input when you don't hide behind veiled insults.

Coach
09-15-2007, 11:11 PM
As a Broncos fan who used to enjoy antagonizing Chiefs fans, once you hired Herm, it took all the fun out of it. I, for the life of me, will never understand why you hired a guy who had just finished a season at 4-12 when you could have chased a young up-and-comer like Mangini.

3 words.

Carl F**king Peterson.

RedThat
09-15-2007, 11:13 PM
3 words.

Carl F**king Peterson.

4 words:

he needs to go

JOhn
09-15-2007, 11:18 PM
I actually enjoy your input when you don't hide behind veiled insults.
pretty much

KCChiefsFan88
09-15-2007, 11:18 PM
For the first time in almost 20 years for me the Chiefs have become almost unwatchable. From Marty to Goonther to Vermeil at least you knew the Chiefs would be interesting with either an explosive offense (Vermeil), an opportunistic defense that could create and score off turnovers (Marty) or a little of both (Goonther).

Now under Herm the Chiefs are just terrible. The offense is horrible, the defense is below average and the special teams is just plain bad. There really isn't anything to enjoy when it comes to watching this team.

JOhn
09-15-2007, 11:22 PM
For the first time in almost 20 years for me the Chiefs have become almost unwatchable. From Marty to Goonther to Vermeil at least you knew the Chiefs would be interesting with either an explosive offense (Vermeil), an opportunistic defense that could create and score off turnovers (Marty) or a little of both (Goonther).

Now under Herm the Chiefs are just terrible. The offense is horrible, the defense is below average and the special teams is just plain bad. There really isn't anything to enjoy when it comes to watching this team.
It would almost be bearable if we had a young QB we were grooming for the future. Instead we got an career back-up trying to prove he is something he's not.

Mecca
09-15-2007, 11:24 PM
Herm pretty much took all hope and flushed it.

splatbass
09-15-2007, 11:55 PM
Herm pretty much took all hope and flushed it.

When have you ever had hope? I have never seen you make a post that wasn't completely negative.

splatbass
09-15-2007, 11:57 PM
This team really has no long term answers at O-line, cornerback, or defensive tackle.


Didn't we just draft a DT? Hasn't he looked pretty good for a rookie? Why don't you think that will be long term?

the Talking Can
09-15-2007, 11:57 PM
I hate the Chiefs like most of you hate your wives.

Demonpenz
09-15-2007, 11:59 PM
i get queezy whenever i walk by some merchidise at malls or whatever.

splatbass
09-16-2007, 12:03 AM
I, for the life of me, will never understand why you hired a guy who had just finished a season at 4-12 when you could have chased a young up-and-comer like Mangini.

What is Mangini's record as a head coach? 10-6 last year and 0-1 this year.

What is Herm's record with the Chiefs in that same period? 9-7 last year (with the starting QB injured), and 0-1 this year.

There is one win difference between the two, so what makes Mangini so much better than Herm?

Logical
09-16-2007, 12:05 AM
What is Mangini's record as a head coach? 10-6 last year and 0-1 this year.

What is Herm's record with the Chiefs in that same period? 9-7 last year (with the starting QB injured), and 0-1 this year.

There is one win difference between the two, so what makes Mangini so much better than Herm?

One has a balanced team, the other does not. I will let you figure the rest out.

Coach
09-16-2007, 12:06 AM
What is Mangini's record as a head coach? 10-6 last year and 0-1 this year.

What is Herm's record with the Chiefs in that same period? 9-7 last year (with the starting QB injured), and 0-1 this year.

There is one win difference between the two, so what makes Mangini so much better than Herm?

One has upside, and the other doesn't. I'll let you figure that out.

RedThat
09-16-2007, 12:18 AM
What is Mangini's record as a head coach? 10-6 last year and 0-1 this year.

What is Herm's record with the Chiefs in that same period? 9-7 last year (with the starting QB injured), and 0-1 this year.

There is one win difference between the two, so what makes Mangini so much better than Herm?

what makes the difference?

he happens to be smarter than Herm.

splatbass
09-16-2007, 12:36 AM
To answer all three of you, the win/loss record is all that matters. If Mangini doesn't win more than Herm it doesn't matter if he is smarter or not. It doesn't matter if he has theoretical "upside". It doesn't matter if he has a "balanced" team. Winning is all that matters. And at this point he isn't looking any better than Herm.

Jayhawkerman2001
09-16-2007, 12:38 AM
i wouldnt say a hatred, but add maniacal before it and yah, id say so.

Tribal Warfare
09-16-2007, 12:46 AM
hatred towards the Chiefs? No, but with King Carl it has resided for a very long period.

Calcountry
09-16-2007, 12:58 AM
My hatred for the front office and PR department grows by the week.

Can't find it within myself to hate the players or coaches.Goood, goood, I can feel the hate in you, it gives you focus, makes you stronger!

Calcountry
09-16-2007, 01:01 AM
I will always hate the Faders, Cheatin Donks, Colts and Bolts 100 times more than I ever could the Cheaps.They have all been to the Super Bowl in my lifetime, but hey, I have to live with it and Clark doesn't seem to give a shit.

htismaqe
09-16-2007, 06:32 AM
It would almost be bearable if we had a young QB we were grooming for the future. Instead we got an career back-up trying to prove he is something he's not.

Bingo.

Bwana
09-16-2007, 06:35 AM
The Chiefs no, but I'm not all that crazy about Peterson or the owners for retaining his services.

BigMeatballDave
09-16-2007, 07:31 AM
The team, no way. I do, however, feel myself caring a bit less. I loathe management.

BigMeatballDave
09-16-2007, 07:36 AM
The team, no way. I do, however, feel myself caring a bit less. I loathe management.

Dave Lane
09-16-2007, 10:39 AM
I detest Herm. If Carl goes with him so much the better.

Dave