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Mr. Laz
09-20-2007, 03:07 PM
PBJ PBJ

Greinke + Soria = 2 hit shutout of the chisox


Royals 3
Chisox 0


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Sure-Oz
09-20-2007, 03:09 PM
Greinke was just a BA today, impressive

petegz28
09-20-2007, 03:09 PM
good get them back for my wasted trip to the K last night.

Sure-Oz
09-20-2007, 03:11 PM
8ip 2 hits 10k's and a W for Greinke

HemiEd
09-20-2007, 03:11 PM
It is a pleasure having the White Sox in last place, they sure were some noisey fans for a while.

ChiTown
09-20-2007, 03:21 PM
Garland only threw 78 pitches though 8 innings? :eek:

That's pretty efficient pitching right there.

Great outing by Zach.

Deberg_1990
09-20-2007, 03:26 PM
Now if only they could learn to stop coming out of the gates (April) so dang awful.

Sure-Oz
09-20-2007, 03:35 PM
I like Meche, Bannister, Greinke for the rotation in '08 maybe Buckner and Hochevar?

Messier
09-20-2007, 03:36 PM
Don't worry there's plenty of time to get back to last place.

carlos3652
09-20-2007, 03:39 PM
11 games left, need 7 to stay out of 90 L... Im just happy we have improved by 6-8 games a year... at this pace will be contenders in 2008/2009...

tk13
09-20-2007, 03:41 PM
After all these years of not having any good starters, it's almost bizarre to have 3 of them now.

alpha_omega
09-20-2007, 03:46 PM
Nice....sure is alot better than what we saw out at the ballpark last night!!!!!

bkkcoh
09-20-2007, 03:57 PM
11 games left, need 7 to stay out of 90 L... Im just happy we have improved by 6-8 games a year... at this pace will be contenders in 2008/2009...


I think you are wrong on that. I think the Royals are so close with some of their young talent of truly breaking through the shadows of tha also-rans. That is could be a turn around in Detroit Tiger proportions.

beavis
09-20-2007, 04:04 PM
I think you are wrong on that. I think the Royals are so close with some of their young talent of truly breaking through the shadows of tha also-rans. That is could be a turn around in Detroit Tiger proportions.
We are in desperate need of some offense though. Hopefully that can be helped through FA and Gordon and Butler having a years experience under their belt.

KcMizzou
09-20-2007, 04:22 PM
Grienke really had it going today. The radio guys were talking about how good his "stuff" was in the first inning. He just never let up...

Sure-Oz
09-20-2007, 04:23 PM
Grienke really had it going today. The radio guys were talking about how good his "stuff" was in the first inning. He just never let up...
All about confidence in that stuff, he was lights out.

Ari Chi3fs
09-20-2007, 04:47 PM
After all these years of not having any good starters, it's almost bizarre to have 3 of them now.


This is the John Schuerholz way.

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Ari Chi3fs
09-20-2007, 04:48 PM
wow. that book is $0.98 for used copies on Amazon. Im buying that right now.

tk13
09-20-2007, 04:53 PM
I've been wanting to read that book for quite a while too. Never gotten around to buying it.

Jayhawkerman2001
09-20-2007, 05:02 PM
man, what a ****ing performance for greinke!! The kid's got all the confidence in the world, i just hope to god he can carry it over to next season. Man, this is the first time in a long ass time that ive been really excited about this season being over so that we can see what we got next year. Man, this could be a prety kick ass team next year, if we add at least 1 power bat to the lineup. Andruw jones would be a nice pickup.

dirk digler
09-20-2007, 05:28 PM
good get them back for my wasted trip to the K last night.

heh. I had a great night at the K on Tuesday. Maybe you're just bad luck. :)

bkkcoh
09-21-2007, 07:33 AM
We are in desperate need of some offense though. Hopefully that can be helped through FA and Gordon and Butler having a years experience under their belt.


I think if the young Royal's progress like they have in the past, you will see some of the offense take place in the Bigs.

I too was shocked at the lack of offense this year.

Deberg_1990
09-21-2007, 09:13 AM
I think if the young Royal's progress like they have in the past, you will see some of the offense take place in the Bigs.

I too was shocked at the lack of offense this year.


I think they need to add a proven "Big bat" to the lineup though.

There are no gurantees that these young guys will ever fully develop. Teahan has proven he can hit, but has zero power.

Ceej
09-21-2007, 09:21 AM
Canseco.

ChiTown
09-21-2007, 09:36 AM
I think they need to add a proven "Big bat" to the lineup though.

There are no guarantees that these young guys will ever fully develop. Teahan has proven he can hit, but has zero power.

This year his power numbers have dropped significantly. Last year, he had 18 HR's in 393 AB's. That projects to ~25 for a full season. My bigger concern is his failure to produce with RISP, especially striking out. You can't be batting in 3-5 hole, have limited power and whiff at the plate every 4.2 AB's.

He needs to get that figured out, or he needs to find a new home. Your RF'r needs to produce runs.

Nzoner
09-21-2007, 09:57 AM
Grienke really had it going today. The radio guys were talking about how good his "stuff" was in the first inning. He just never let up...

We were at the game sitting about 15 rows behind home plate and Zack was smokin',he was still hitting 95 in the 8th inning.We left top of the 9th because I got pissed,I just don't understand with a 3-0 lead and a 2 hitter going why he couldn't finish his own game.

ChiTown
09-21-2007, 10:12 AM
We were at the game sitting about 15 rows behind home plate and Zack was smokin',he was still hitting 95 in the 8th inning.We left top of the 9th because I got pissed,I just don't understand with a 3-0 lead and a 2 hitter going why he couldn't finish his own game.

Bell said they had him on a 100 pitch count. He hit 101 in the 8th. I can understand that. They're easing him back into the rotation - plus, they're pretty consistent about specific pitchers and their pitch counts. Meche and Bannister are the only 2 pitchers that have carte blanche on pitch counts

bkkcoh
09-21-2007, 10:16 AM
I think they need to add a proven "Big bat" to the lineup though.

There are no gurantees that these young guys will ever fully develop. Teahan has proven he can hit, but has zero power.

If you get the guys up in the bigs that will increase the team batting average to .270 - .280, you will see the increased run production.

I will definitely agree that they need to find someone who will be able to hit 35 - 40 home runs.

I would like to see 3 - 4 guys on the team that will be able to hit 20 - 30 home runs in a season. I think that will happen, the team is quite yuoung and they haven't matured as ball players. Once that happens, I think you will see better run production.

Valiant
09-21-2007, 10:33 AM
This year his power numbers have dropped significantly. Last year, he had 18 HR's in 393 AB's. That projects to ~25 for a full season. My bigger concern is his failure to produce with RISP, especially striking out. You can't be batting in 3-5 hole, have limited power and whiff at the plate every 4.2 AB's.

He needs to get that figured out, or he needs to find a new home. Your RF'r needs to produce runs.



We need 3 new outfielders..

Baby Dejesus RBI count is horrible, Emil Brown has as many RBI's with 200 less AB's.. Trade him if we can..

Emil Brown slipped a lot this year.. And he was only average at best last year.. Trade him or release him..

Teahan is a strikeout machine and his bat has been barely average this year.. I would say trade him, but in my heart I would give him one more year to prove himself..

Gathright would get a full chance to prove himself next year as a fulltime starter..

I would bring in Bonds( yeah you can kill me) to play in the outfield part-time and DH when he is not out there.. Hopefully get a new homerun record for the franchise..

I would also try and bring in Aaron Rowand or Tori Hunter for the other spot..

IMO, bring in some quality veteran homerun threats and mix them with our young talent and the offense should be decent.. Hopefully our pitchers Grienke, Meche and Bannister continue what they have done this year.. I would also love to bring in another veteran quality pitcher to see if that can get us over the hump..

no particular order

1. Gathright
2. Pena
3. Rowand/Hunter
4. Bonds
5. Grudz
6. Gordon
7. Buck
8. Butler
9. Teahan(dh)

Mr. Laz
09-21-2007, 11:32 AM
Emil brown is on a 1 year deal ..... his 4 million dollar yearly salary is gone.

i bet they put gathright in left full time

gathright,DJ and ???

i wonder if we replace tehan


anyone think that they move tehan back to 3rd and put Gordon full time at 1st?

Sure-Oz
09-21-2007, 11:38 AM
I'd rather have Teahan play 1st and Gordon at 3b, DJ and Gathright can't be in the same OF

Mr. Laz
09-21-2007, 11:41 AM
I'd rather have Teahan play 1st and Gordon at 3b, DJ and Gathright can't be in the same OF
i agree about DJ and gathright ..... but i don't think the Royals are gonna be able to make that change unless they trade Dejesus.

petegz28
09-21-2007, 12:07 PM
We need 3 new outfielders..

Baby Dejesus RBI count is horrible, Emil Brown has as many RBI's with 200 less AB's.. Trade him if we can..

Emil Brown slipped a lot this year.. And he was only average at best last year.. Trade him or release him..

Teahan is a strikeout machine and his bat has been barely average this year.. I would say trade him, but in my heart I would give him one more year to prove himself..

Gathright would get a full chance to prove himself next year as a fulltime starter..

I would bring in Bonds( yeah you can kill me) to play in the outfield part-time and DH when he is not out there.. Hopefully get a new homerun record for the franchise..

I would also try and bring in Aaron Rowand or Tori Hunter for the other spot..

IMO, bring in some quality veteran homerun threats and mix them with our young talent and the offense should be decent.. Hopefully our pitchers Grienke, Meche and Bannister continue what they have done this year.. I would also love to bring in another veteran quality pitcher to see if that can get us over the hump..

no particular order

1. Gathright
2. Pena
3. Rowand/Hunter
4. Bonds
5. Grudz
6. Gordon
7. Buck
8. Butler
9. Teahan(dh)


DeJesus is a lead off hitter. Most Lead Off hitters don't have a ton of RBI's I would think.

petegz28
09-21-2007, 12:11 PM
Hate to say it but DeJesus probably isn't going anywhere and I am not sure why you would want him too.

Brown will be gone, he is up for arbitration this year.

Gathright, DeJesus and Teahen will be the 3 starters in the OF next year barring trades.

Gload and Butler will split time at 1st base.

Smith and TPJ will compete for starter at SS

Grudz and Gordon are not going anywhere obviously.

We have big bats in our lineup they just are kids now though. Butler and Gordon will both hit 25 Jacks next year I promise.

If Buck can get his shit together he could be a 20 Jack guy himself.

carlos3652
09-21-2007, 12:11 PM
DeJesus is a lead off hitter. Most Lead Off hitters don't have a ton of RBI's I would think.

True, he will have over 100+ runs this season... he is at 99...

petegz28
09-21-2007, 12:13 PM
True, he will have over 100+ runs this season... he is at 99...


I wouldn't trade DeJesus right now unless we got an impact player. No way to I trade him for a prospect. Ain't happening. He isn't the fastest Cf, he doesn't have the strongest glove but he is a good baseball player and if he could learn to steal he would be a great # 5 or 6 batter. I would like ot see Gathright leading off.

carlos3652
09-21-2007, 12:13 PM
Dejesus is #12 in Runs scored in the AL... and with none of our guys at 60 RBI's this year, and our lack of offense, that is impressive....

carlos3652
09-21-2007, 12:16 PM
Álex Rodríguez NYY 134
Grady Sizemore CLE 115
Curtis Granderson DET 115
Magglio Ordóñez DET 112
Bobby Abreu NYY 111
Ichiro Suzuki SEA 108
David Ortiz BOS 107
Gary Sheffield DET 105
Álex Ríos TOR 104
Plácido Polanco DET 101
Brian Roberts BAL 100
David DeJesús KC 99
Orlando Cabrera LAA 99

Thats a talented group of players right there...