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BigRedChief
09-24-2007, 01:19 PM
The official site:
http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/

The unoffical fan site:
http://www.9thwonders.com/

Interactive Novels that pick up where the TV show ends:
http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/novels/

Heroes the series.com
http://www.heroestheseries.com/

Other Heroes video links:
http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/video/video_display.shtml#mea=160134

Link for reference to the Chief Planet season 1 discussion:
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=149388

KCChiefsMan
09-24-2007, 01:30 PM
is this show any good? I was thinking about renting season 1, should I?

InChiefsHell
09-24-2007, 01:33 PM
Yes. I only watched the second half of season one, and now I'm pissed I missed it. But I think you can jump right in and start on Season 2 without getting too lost.

Lzen
09-24-2007, 02:17 PM
Link for reference to season 1 discussion.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=149388

kaplin42
09-24-2007, 02:18 PM
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This is a great show. But I'm so torn cause I get too excited and have a hard time waiting till the next week. I almost want to wait for the DVD to come out and then watch it all.

I'm curious to see what happened to the Petrelli brothers.

irishjayhawk
09-24-2007, 02:35 PM
Can't wait. Seriously, great show.

And they are bringing in major talent this season as well as for the Heroes: Origin spin off. For that, Kevin Smith wants to direct, Eli Roth is writing and directing one, they've tried to get Tarentino (Yeah, I butchered his name. Big whoop, wanna fight about it?)

BigRedChief
09-24-2007, 02:35 PM
Link for reference to season 1 discussion.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=149388
Put in the first post for refrence. Good idea.:clap:

Valiant
09-24-2007, 02:47 PM
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This is a great show. But I'm so torn cause I get too excited and have a hard time waiting till the next week. I almost want to wait for the DVD to come out and then watch it all.

I'm curious to see what happened to the Petrelli brothers.


I am so glad she is 18 now..

kaplin42
09-24-2007, 03:01 PM
I am so glad she is 18 now..

:hump:

Silock
09-24-2007, 03:09 PM
Save the hot cheerleader, save the world.

Buck
09-24-2007, 05:56 PM
YUSS!!!!!!

irishjayhawk
09-24-2007, 08:01 PM
Great ending. And Hayden is as hot as ever. But I don't like her "boyfriend".

MIAdragon
09-24-2007, 08:06 PM
+1

Stinger
09-24-2007, 08:11 PM
Interesting and a better start than I expected.... Nice twist so far in the Hiro storyline both with his father and what was suppose to be his ancestory.

HolmeZz
09-24-2007, 08:20 PM
Great ending. And Hayden is as hot as ever. But I don't like her "boyfriend".

Dude's a stalker and is somehow in all of her classes. Go figure.

Valiant
09-24-2007, 08:22 PM
Dude's a stalker and is somehow in all of her classes. Go figure.



Yeah me thinks he has some sort of power or was planted by the 'Them'(who ever the hidden ones are)

Dartgod
09-24-2007, 08:24 PM
Yeah me thinks he has some sort of power or was planted by the 'Them'(who ever the hidden ones are)
Duh. He was flying.

HolmeZz
09-24-2007, 08:24 PM
Yeah me thinks he has some sort of power or was planted by the 'Them'(who ever the hidden ones are)

Uhh, that was him floating outside her window. :p

And yeah, I think it was confirmed he had a power.

Tribal Warfare
09-24-2007, 08:28 PM
Peter is ALIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Delano
09-24-2007, 08:31 PM
My wife mentioned something that I can't confirm myself. When they did the future episode, was Claire married to this new stalker kid? I can't remember faces very well.

HolmeZz
09-24-2007, 08:34 PM
Different guy.

Valiant
09-24-2007, 08:52 PM
Uhh, that was him floating outside her window. :p

And yeah, I think it was confirmed he had a power.


I think I missed that, probably when I was looking at pron on my computer..

InChiefsHell
09-24-2007, 10:28 PM
So...Silar is back? I'm a little fuzzy on last season and I didn't see the whole thing, but the future previews showed him...

Buck
09-24-2007, 11:33 PM
What a cool episode

Guru
09-24-2007, 11:33 PM
What a cool episode
Nice ep indeed.

Chan93lx50
09-25-2007, 04:16 AM
So...Silar is back? I'm a little fuzzy on last season and I didn't see the whole thing, but the future previews showed him...

Yes, but will be limited this season. When he signed to do the new star trek they had to rewrite their scripts to allow him time to shoot his new movie. I am not sure when or how much he will be on the show!

allen_kcCard
09-25-2007, 09:08 AM
I get the feeling this one will focus on taking down the company, the old group of heroes (more on that later), and Hiro in old Japan fixing what he broke.


The old group of heroes is getting interesting. We know it has Hiro's dad, Momma Pitrelli, Papa Pitrelli, Lieberman, and Charles Deveaux, with only Mamma living now since it looks like Hiro's dad is toast. He said something about there being 9 left, I'm curious who those other 8 are now that he is gone.


Still now sure what Momma Pitrelli's power is. I expect that she will either be dead very very soon, or do a "conversion from the dark side" and help save Peter and get Nathan out of the gutter.


Was a nice episode, I think they did a good job of picking up where they left off and didn't fall in the trap of making it feel like a bad sequel.

Delano
09-25-2007, 09:37 AM
I'm loving the Noah Bennett storyline.

Splat420
09-25-2007, 09:39 AM
I love this show can't wait for next week.

BigRedChief
09-25-2007, 09:40 AM
Updated the first post with new links.

allen_kcCard
09-25-2007, 09:53 AM
I'm loving the Noah Bennett storyline.


Yeah, he is going to kick some ass. I'm glad he didn't let the ahole manager talk to him like that for long.

Silock
09-25-2007, 11:18 AM
Interesting and a better start than I expected.... Nice twist so far in the Hiro storyline both with his father and what was suppose to be his ancestory.

Hiro is Kenzei, not the other dude.

kaplin42
09-25-2007, 11:25 AM
Hiro is Kenzei, not the other dude.


Thats what I was thinking as well.

Was a great episode though. Only thing I hope is that when Peter becomes Peter again, he leaves behind his panziness. Oh and that Claire and Nikki/Jessica will find themselves in a mud wrestling match.

BigRedChief
09-25-2007, 02:57 PM
I am so glad she is 18 now..
We need more pics of her in this thread.

kaplin42
09-25-2007, 03:09 PM
We need more pics of her in this thread.


http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f30/kaplin42/hro_1009_026.jpg http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f30/kaplin42/HP2.jpg http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f30/kaplin42/HP3.jpg http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f30/kaplin42/HP4.jpg http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f30/kaplin42/HP1.jpg

Valiant
09-25-2007, 06:57 PM
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f30/kaplin42/hro_1009_026.jpg http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f30/kaplin42/HP2.jpg http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f30/kaplin42/HP3.jpg http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f30/kaplin42/HP4.jpg http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f30/kaplin42/HP1.jpg


OMG, what makes this even better is there is a girl that looks exactly like her at my gym up here(24 hr fitness) I talked to her about it and she just laughed and says she is getting that a lot lately.. Also her friend looks like the daughter off of soprano's..

Valiant
09-25-2007, 06:58 PM
Hiro is Kenzei, not the other dude.


I think that will happen also, this is how you get the full circle on the sword...

Valiant
09-25-2007, 06:59 PM
I get the feeling this one will focus on taking down the company, the old group of heroes (more on that later), and Hiro in old Japan fixing what he broke.


The old group of heroes is getting interesting. We know it has Hiro's dad, Momma Pitrelli, Papa Pitrelli, Lieberman, and Charles Deveaux, with only Mamma living now since it looks like Hiro's dad is toast. He said something about there being 9 left, I'm curious who those other 8 are now that he is gone.


Still now sure what Momma Pitrelli's power is. I expect that she will either be dead very very soon, or do a "conversion from the dark side" and help save Peter and get Nathan out of the gutter.


Was a nice episode, I think they did a good job of picking up where they left off and didn't fall in the trap of making it feel like a bad sequel.


For the old group I do not think Hiro's dad is dead, I think that is planned he still has to help Hiro with his destiny.. For all we know that figure was part of his power.. maybe Hiro's dad can make clones..

Silock
09-25-2007, 07:46 PM
OMG, what makes this even better is there is a girl that looks exactly like her at my gym up here(24 hr fitness) I talked to her about it and she just laughed and says she is getting that a lot lately.. Also her friend looks like the daughter off of soprano's..

Umm, address of your gym?

KcMizzou
09-25-2007, 07:49 PM
Hiro is Kenzei, not the other dude.Damn.. I hadn't thought of that. That would be a cool twist.

rtuimauga
09-25-2007, 08:14 PM
Mostly a lurker here guys but I have to chime in with my 2 cents on this one.

Hiro is Kenzei, not the other dude.

I can totally see this scenario as the current "Kenzei" is a complete loser. Remember when Hiro's dad said he was "helping his son fulfill his destiny?" This would be true with all the training Hiro got from his old man last season. Now he can become the true warrior like Hiro of the future. Just MHO but this season looks way good!!! Who was it that killed Hiro's dad?

irishjayhawk
09-25-2007, 09:24 PM
Hiro is Kenzei, not the other dude.

I'm in that camp too.

Buck
09-25-2007, 09:26 PM
Hiro is Kenzei, not the other dude.

Great Thought...REP!!!

HolmeZz
09-25-2007, 09:29 PM
Totally ripped the storyline from Futurama, where Fry turns out to be his own grandpa.

Silock
09-26-2007, 01:26 AM
Dammit... someone told me his theory that Hiro isn't Kenzei, because he teaches the other guy how to fight and be noble. That dude woos the swordsmiths daughter.

And that Kenzei's power is probably immortality or something, and he's the one that killed Hiro's dad. Now I don't know what to think.

Silock
09-26-2007, 01:29 AM
Wait, now I'm even more confused.

According to the Heroes Wiki:

Yamagato Fellowship released Sword Saint, a five-part documentary about Takezo Kensei. According to the documentary, Kensei met and fell in love with a princess, who made Kensei swear to defend Japan against Whitebeard's attacks. Kensei sought out the Dragon of Kiso Mountain to learn ancient sword skills. Now a "sword saint", Kensei singlehandedly defeated Whitebeard in the Battle of 12 Swords, then set off on a series of adventures (which became known as The Trials of Takezo Kensei) in a quest to find Whitebeard's "Hidden Fortress". The first of these trials was the Trial of the Fire Scroll, in which Kensei overcame 90 cannibalistic ronin, attained Whitebeard's Fire Scroll, and was prepared to face his next to trials: climbing the frozen waterfall and finding the single crimson peony. Kensei then defeated the Black Bear, the Snake Women, and Whitebeard's entire army. Finally, Kensei faced Whitebeard himself, and took the warrior's life. Later, at the wedding of the princess and Kensei, the Dragon returned, looking to exact Kensei's beloved. Instead, Kensei surprised the Dragon by cutting out his own heart and offering it instead. Exactly what happened next remains a mystery, though legend has it that Kensei may have been restored to life by the merciful Dragon. Some say that he and the princess grew rich, while others say they ran off with the Dragon.

Yamagato Fellowship also has a page about Takezo Kensei that reads:

* A wild savage turned master swordsman whose heroics helped unify Japan.
* Takezo found a sword frozen in the snow that helped him focus all his strength and courage. Some say this sword, and Takezoís power, were a Godsend.
* With war threatening to fracture Japan, he went to the Dragon of Kiso Mountain and asked him to teach him the secrets of the sword. The Dragon agreed to help in exchange for all of his love. Takezo loved a princess with all his heart but knew Japan would fall if he did not triumph, so he agreed. The Dragon taught him and he became Kensei (a sword saint).
* With his newfound knowledge, Kensei fought and won a great battle Ė thus saving his people. After the battle, the Dragon came to Kenseiís palace to collect on their deal. The Dragon demanded the life of the princess. Kensei refused and cut out his own heart, handed it to the dragon and said, "My love is in here. Take it." And then he died. When the Dragon saw what Kensei was willing to sacrifice for his people (and his love) he was so moved that he replaced Kenseiís heart and breathed fire-life back into the swordsman.
* The Takezo dynasty went on to rule Japan with valor and love for a hundred years.

__________________

Now, we know that there's the picture of Hiro fighting a dinosaur or a dragon-type-thing in the first season. Could that be Hiro learning ancient sword skills from the dragon to become Kensei?

ARGH.

http://heroeswiki.com/images/d/d1/Painting_hiro_dinosaur.jpg

* Some feel this prophecy has not yet been fulfilled. Hiro did stand in front of the dinosaur model at the museum and brandish the sword he got from the display case, but he was holding a sheathed replica with no blade inside, while the painting appears to show a real, unsheathed blade. Hiro's blog posits that perhaps the absence of heroin caused a difference: "In Mr. Isaku's painting, there was a picture of myself fighting a dinosaur. Was that it? My sword was still in the scabbard but I remember the sword was unsheathed in the painting. Maybe Mr. Isaku's vision isn't as clear when he isn't on drugs. He hallucinates when he's not on hallucinogens. Strange." In an interview, however, writers Joe Pokaski and Aron Coleite seemed to imply that this prophecy was fulfilled in Godsend.
* In a forum post, Tim Sale, the real life artist of the painting, states that he believes he painted a Carnotaurus. He used a dinosaur model from the La Brea Tar Pits exhibit in the Natural History Museum of Los Angeles County. This museum is also the real world shooting location for the Museum of Natural History.

http://heroeswiki.com/images/6/6f/Museum_hiro_dino.jpg

Guru
09-26-2007, 01:39 AM
Just enjoy the story. Don't over think it.

HolmeZz
09-26-2007, 01:42 AM
Dammit... someone told me his theory that Hiro isn't Kenzei, because he teaches the other guy how to fight and be noble. That dude woos the swordsmiths daughter.

And that Kenzei's power is probably immortality or something, and he's the one that killed Hiro's dad. Now I don't know what to think.

As I stated in the old Heroes thread, something is up with Kensei. He was born in 1584 according to the episode Godsend, yet Hiro meets him in 1671 and he's fairly young.

BigRedChief
09-26-2007, 06:43 AM
Just enjoy the story. Don't over think it.
I hope it doesn't become like "Lost" with all these unexplained mystery's that go on forever in the story arc.

keg in kc
09-26-2007, 08:25 AM
I didn't realize how much I liked this show until I finally watched the premiere last night. They've really hooked me.

I really dug the first episode of Chuck, too. And although the reviews have been harsh, I thought Journeyman was good.

irishjayhawk
09-26-2007, 10:15 AM
I hope it doesn't become like "Lost" with all these unexplained mystery's that go on forever in the story arc.

Most of the writers, iirc, quit lost and joined heroes because they didn't like where they were going.

Amnorix
09-26-2007, 10:20 AM
Damn.. I hadn't thought of that. That would be a cool twist.

I've been thinking that since the end of last season, but I don't know how they avoid the paradox of it all. Probably they just ignore it altogether.

It's possible that Hiro shapes that stupid profiteering gaijun into Kenzei, but more likely that this is where Hiro turns into the stud that we see when he goes back in time (from hsi perspective) to visit Peter Petrelli.

Amnorix
09-26-2007, 10:24 AM
I hope it doesn't become like "Lost" with all these unexplained mystery's that go on forever in the story arc.

I never watched Lost, but I'm with you. Things that never get explained will turn me off in a big way. I don't mind suspense/confusion etc., but I like things to be wrapped up in a reasonable timeframe.

Delano
09-26-2007, 10:24 AM
I didn't realize how much I liked this show until I finally watched the premiere last night. They've really hooked me.

I really dug the first episode of Chuck, too. And although the reviews have been harsh, I thought Journeyman was good.

I didn't catch Journeyman, but I fully agree with the rest of your post.

I would like to add that the blonde government agent was an unexpected yet wonderful part of "Chuck." My god, those underwear scenes were great.

Dartgod
09-26-2007, 10:35 AM
I would like to add that the blonde government agent was an unexpected yet wonderful part of "Chuck." My god, those underwear scenes were great.
This thread just officially became worthless without pictures.

HolmeZz
09-26-2007, 10:49 AM
I've been thinking that since the end of last season, but I don't know how they avoid the paradox of it all. Probably they just ignore it altogether.

It's a predestination paradox. Everything that happened with Hiro was supposed to happen, leading him to travel back into the past to set everything in motion.

Amnorix
09-26-2007, 11:08 AM
It's a predestination paradox. Everything that happened with Hiro was supposed to happen, leading him to travel back into the past to set everything in motion.


errr...how's that again? Predestination paradox?

This is why I tend to despise time travel concepts. I like a hint of believability/reality/logic in my nonsensical sci-fi or fantasy, and usually when time travel is involved, you just have to chuck absolutely everything out the window.

irishjayhawk
09-26-2007, 11:13 AM
errr...how's that again? Predestination paradox?

This is why I tend to despise time travel concepts. I like a hint of believability/reality/logic in my nonsensical sci-fi or fantasy, and usually when time travel is involved, you just have to chuck absolutely everything out the window.

As if the powers themselves don't chuck things out the window for you? :p

HolmeZz
09-26-2007, 11:28 AM
errr...how's that again? Predestination paradox?

We're assuming Hiro is the fabled Kensei. The story of Kensei existed before Hiro was ever actually born. Hiro was predestined, once he grew up, to travel back into the past and be Takezo Kensei. It's a loop, but I'm pretty sure it's accepted as far as sci-fi time-travel is concerned.

I don't think any of this is the case though. Kensei is Kensei and apparently he's immortal, which would explain the birthdate issue I raised earlier.

Valiant
09-26-2007, 11:53 AM
errr...how's that again? Predestination paradox?

This is why I tend to despise time travel concepts. I like a hint of believability/reality/logic in my nonsensical sci-fi or fantasy, and usually when time travel is involved, you just have to chuck absolutely everything out the window.


Chicken/egg syndrome..

kpic
09-26-2007, 04:22 PM
Hiro's dad is not going to die. George T. is a somewhat regular on Howard Stern & he mentioned how much he is working on the show etc. as it was filming.

Howard mentioned this again after the episode aired.

Unless he comes back as "flashbacks"??

Third Eye
09-26-2007, 05:58 PM
Just a thought, but it WAY too early to believe it: Hiro's father is the "dragon". The paintings don't have to be literal, I mean Peter doesn't actually sprout wings like he is portrayed in his painting. We know he is a master swordsman, and the hooded figure could be the swordsmith's daughter, coming to exact her revenge for Kensei cutting out his own heart.

Probably not true, but hey, it is a thought.

Skoal_Chief
09-27-2007, 01:37 PM
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f30/kaplin42/hro_1009_026.jpg http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f30/kaplin42/HP2.jpg http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f30/kaplin42/HP3.jpg http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f30/kaplin42/HP4.jpg http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f30/kaplin42/HP1.jpg

Thanks. I just jerked off to Hayden. No hookers for me tonight. Just saved $150 of my welfare money.

BigRedChief
09-27-2007, 01:56 PM
Thanks. I just jerked off to Hayden. No hookers for me tonight. Just saved $150 of my welfare money.
Woah there nelly...........way too much info

BigRedChief
10-01-2007, 11:51 AM
It's a predestination paradox. ?:hmmm: that ther is big words for us mullet wearing, camero driving Chief fans.

HolmeZz
10-01-2007, 06:46 PM
So who's pumped for some 'Roes?

irishjayhawk
10-01-2007, 06:55 PM
Me.

Heroes Whoooo.

HolmeZz
10-01-2007, 07:08 PM
omggggggggggg Hiro is Kensei :o

Valiant
10-01-2007, 07:10 PM
omggggggggggg Hiro is Kensei :o


alright me and Silock called it..

Valiant
10-01-2007, 07:17 PM
And I am guessing the guy the professor is working for is one of the original mutants(heroes) also...

HolmeZz
10-01-2007, 07:19 PM
I think he's going to be this season's bad guy.

HolmeZz
10-01-2007, 07:26 PM
Hiro's got the best storyline by far this season.

Valiant
10-01-2007, 07:29 PM
Hiro's got the best storyline by far this season.


Agree, I am kinda hoping they pit the old heroes vs. the new ones in a battle royal at the end and Hiro comes in to turn the tide..

HolmeZz
10-01-2007, 07:39 PM
TF her tears kill people? They better expand on that.

Valiant
10-01-2007, 07:44 PM
TF her tears kill people? They better expand on that.


Somehow her and her twin have to be together so her power does not get out of control(Like maybe being a twin was an accident).. Me thinks we will later learn he has something that can heal..

Valiant
10-01-2007, 07:45 PM
Ima ****ing genius..

I think maybe them being twins was an accident and their power was not to be separated..

HolmeZz
10-01-2007, 07:55 PM
The original Kensei is going to run with this and eventually become evil. Hiro's going to have created a monster.

HolmeZz
10-01-2007, 07:56 PM
Kensei can't die. He's immortal. :(

yayyyyyyyyyyyy

Valiant
10-01-2007, 07:57 PM
I went from damn Hiro is going to do all the work and not get to the girl..

to sweet Kinsei is dead, poontang back on for Hiro..

to sonuvabitch Kinsei is a mutant also and can heal himself..

Jenson71
10-01-2007, 08:00 PM
I thought I should come in here to tell you guys that this show is ****ing stupid.

And it's for girls.

Valiant
10-01-2007, 08:00 PM
Hopefully her little toe can turn into a whole new fine piece of ass..

irishjayhawk
10-01-2007, 08:05 PM
Hopefully her little toe can turn into a whole new fine piece of ass..

I really liked that last wardrobe choice for her. :drool:

Tribal Warfare
10-01-2007, 08:05 PM
Kensei can't die. He's immortal. :(

yayyyyyyyyyyyy


he's the F*CKIN highlander

Reaper16
10-01-2007, 08:46 PM
I thought I should come in here to tell you guys that this show is ****ing stupid.

And it's for girls.
This show is ****ing awesome, and its for ****ing awesome people.

Silock
10-02-2007, 12:39 AM
Hmm... I don't think Hiro is going to be Kensei in the way I thought originally, but perhaps in some way, he is.

Guru
10-02-2007, 12:51 AM
Ima ****ing genius..

I think maybe them being twins was an accident and their power was not to be separated..
WONDER TWIN powers unite. form of....

MIAdragon
10-02-2007, 03:39 AM
Somehow her and her twin have to be together so her power does not get out of control(Like maybe being a twin was an accident).. Me thinks we will later learn he has something that can heal..


I think she is "evil" and her brother is "good" does that make sense?

Stinger
10-02-2007, 09:49 PM
I think she is "evil" and her brother is "good" does that make sense?


http://www.designer-team.de/shop/images/big/ying-yang.jpg

Tribal Warfare
10-02-2007, 09:58 PM
I think she is "evil" and her brother is "good" does that make sense?


The brother is like John Coffey healing individuals bye obsorbing their sickness. The sister is the polar opposite as she causes viral death. I believe when the "virus comes to America she will worsen the strain, but the brother will provide antibodies like East Indian Doctor

BigRedChief
10-02-2007, 10:02 PM
I really liked that last wardrobe choice for her. :drool:
And she's 18 now. We can drool without guilt.

MIAdragon
10-02-2007, 10:06 PM
And she's 18 now. We can drool without "guilt".

like anyone did before

HolmeZz
10-08-2007, 03:46 PM
A little bumpage never hurt nobody.

Got a full plate of TV tonight, with Heroes, Raw, Yanks/Indians, Bills/Cowgirls(fantasy purposes), Daily Show/Report, and Boondocks.

BillyDaleClanton
10-08-2007, 03:49 PM
Tonight I am going to save up my cum load to jerk off to Hayden again. YAY! No hookers tonight!

ZootedGranny
10-08-2007, 10:24 PM
Once again, an absolutely atrocious episode.

Cornball flying scene, the brother/sister storyline that went nowhere once again, Sylar's terrible acting, more of the horrendous Kensei plot, so on and so forth.

So far, Heroes has not justified its slow pace this season.

Guru
10-08-2007, 10:28 PM
Once again, an absolutely atrocious episode.

Cornball flying scene, the brother/sister storyline that went nowhere once again, Sylar's terrible acting, more of the horrendous Kensei plot, so on and so forth.

So far, Heroes has not justified its slow pace this season.
I am sick of the brother sister angle too. The ending was interesting tonight though.

HolmeZz
10-08-2007, 10:32 PM
How is the Kensei plot horrendous?

irishjayhawk
10-08-2007, 11:26 PM
Once again, an absolutely atrocious episode.

Cornball flying scene, the brother/sister storyline that went nowhere once again, Sylar's terrible acting, more of the horrendous Kensei plot, so on and so forth.

So far, Heroes has not justified its slow pace this season.

Maybe it's me, but I love the story aspect better than the action X-Men wannabe people want.

Only scene I took issue with was the flying scene but it flew into commercial, to sort of save it. :p

The brother sister story line keeps going bit by bit but it's going nonetheless. Slyar doesn't strike me as bad. And the Kensei plot is anything but horrendous.

HolmeZz
10-08-2007, 11:28 PM
The Sylar stuff wasn't bad tonight. It explains how he takes Candice's powers. I thought it was also pretty funny that Candice was really a fat chick.

irishjayhawk
10-08-2007, 11:29 PM
If there is any storyline I hate, it's the Nikki storyline. A close second is that retarded classmate kid.

Guru
10-08-2007, 11:29 PM
The Sylar stuff wasn't bad tonight. It explains how he takes Candace's powers. I thought it was also pretty funny that Candace was really a fat chick.

I saw that coming a mile away. I immediately thought of the Aerosmith video for Sweet Emotion.

irishjayhawk
10-08-2007, 11:29 PM
I saw that coming a mile away.

True.

HolmeZz
10-08-2007, 11:32 PM
I saw that coming a mile away. I immediately thought of the Aerosmith video for Sweet Emotion.

I would've seen it coming a mile away except for the fact that when Nikki knocked Candice unconscious in season one, she turned back into her previous form(as Missy Peregrym).

irishjayhawk
10-08-2007, 11:33 PM
I would've seen it coming a mile away except for the fact that when Nikki knocked Candice unconscious in season one, she turned back into her previous form(as Missy Peregrym).

Oh, forgot about that. Nice catch.

irishjayhawk
10-08-2007, 11:42 PM
I definitely wanted to "poke and prod" her. :p

kaplin42
10-09-2007, 10:10 AM
Thought I had on the Candice/Sylar plot line.

What if all of that was make believe? Why couldn't Sylar move the cup? Because it wasn't actually there. Why can't he use her power, because she isn't actually dead.

Just a thought I had. Because seriously, she would have to be one dumb biatch just to hang out with him like that and not expect it to do down like it did.

cadmonkey
10-09-2007, 10:17 AM
Once again, an absolutely atrocious episode.

Cornball flying scene, the brother/sister storyline that went nowhere once again, Sylar's terrible acting, more of the horrendous Kensei plot, so on and so forth.

So far, Heroes has not justified its slow pace this season.

That flying scene made me think i was watching Smallville.

and i feel bad for Sylar. They had had to write him in, after most of the season was already written because he thought he was going to be away for a movie. The movie wrapped up fast and they wanted him in this season. Its painfully obvious that his charecter was an afterthought this season.

Tribal Warfare
10-09-2007, 11:11 AM
I find the Hiro/Kensei story arc interesting, but the hispanic siblings one is death and the other is a John Coffey rehash is irritating

duncan_idaho
10-09-2007, 01:23 PM
I hate the brother/sister storyline intensely. No one cares, no one cares, no one cares.

I like the Kensei/Hiro stuff - gives me a lot to think about, and there are so many places they could take that. I'm ready for a few things to start happening...

And if Claire's 'dad' is the last one of that series of 8 people to die, that means he has powers, too, right? So what is it?

Valiant
10-09-2007, 01:25 PM
I hate the brother/sister storyline intensely. No one cares, no one cares, no one cares.

I like the Kensei/Hiro stuff - gives me a lot to think about, and there are so many places they could take that. I'm ready for a few things to start happening...

And if Claire's 'dad' is the last one of that series of 8 people to die, that means he has powers, too, right? So what is it?



It means Sylar has the power to make stuff what he wants to look like and kills him...

chiefsfan987
10-09-2007, 01:29 PM
The ratings for this show is starting to suffer from the bad storylines. Its finished a distant 3rd out of the 4 major networks in its time slot the last two weeks.

HolmeZz
10-09-2007, 02:01 PM
The ratings for this show is starting to suffer from the bad storylines. Its finished a distant 3rd out of the 4 major networks in its time slot the last two weeks.

?

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117973702.html?categoryid=14&cs=1

MIAdragon
10-09-2007, 02:03 PM
Its all the damn commercials, I swear last nights show was MAYBE 10 mins long

chiefsfan987
10-09-2007, 02:06 PM
?

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117973702.html?categoryid=14&cs=1

Interesting... different sites, different outtakes.

http://www.zap2it.com/tv/ratings/zap-ratings100807,0,1008263.story?coll=zap-tv-ratings-headlines

kaplin42
10-09-2007, 02:48 PM
Its all the damn commercials, I swear last nights show was MAYBE 10 mins long


Seriously!!! I'm happy that my GF has school till 10pm. I record the show and then FF through commercials. But I swear its like 3 minutes of show for 10 minutes of commericals.

So no thoughts on the theory that Canidice isn't dead, and it was all just an illusion huh?

BillyDaleClanton
10-09-2007, 02:50 PM
Any chance Hayden flashes her tits this season?

Amnorix
10-09-2007, 03:18 PM
Seriously!!! I'm happy that my GF has school till 10pm. I record the show and then FF through commercials. But I swear its like 3 minutes of show for 10 minutes of commericals.

So no thoughts on the theory that Canidice isn't dead, and it was all just an illusion huh?

It's definitely possible. That's the thing about illusionists -- they can make you think ANYTHING they want to.

His "failure" to use his power to move the cup is, IMHO, definitely due to her illusion -- i.e. there was no cup there for him to move.

His failure to create illusions is either because he didn't really kill her and eat her brain or whatever (IMHO not likely), or more likely that no matter what illusion he creates, HE always sees things as they really are. In other words, he can't fool himself into thinking X when reality is Y.

The reason I think Candace (sp) is really dead is because she would have to create a very convincing illusion of what the inside of someone's head looks like etc. It would seem tough to fool Sylar on something like that.

But, of course, this is just TV, so it's definitely possible.

BillyDaleClanton
10-09-2007, 03:20 PM
Burn in hell, Patsie scum. Go Indians.

HolmeZz
10-09-2007, 03:35 PM
The Heroes web comic has a backstory on Candice(her real name was Betty) and she really was a fat chick.

kaplin42
10-09-2007, 04:13 PM
yeah, I am current on all the comics. But it just seems to me that last season, they made Candice for cunning, and for her to just hang out with sylar is kind of a dumb move in my opinion.

HolmeZz
10-09-2007, 04:16 PM
yeah, I am current on all the comics. But it just seems to me that last season, they made Candice for cunning, and for her to just hang out with sylar is kind of a dumb move in my opinion.

I think she was asked to by the company. She was on the phone before he woke up.

kaplin42
10-09-2007, 04:30 PM
I think she was asked to by the company. She was on the phone before he woke up.


Right, I get that. But that doesn't mean that she had to be stupid. We ask zoo keepers to feed lions, doesn't mean feed themselves to the lions.

I just don't understand why all of a sudden she would have very little regard for her health/life. She could have done what the company asked and still tried to keep herself safe.

irishjayhawk
10-09-2007, 06:20 PM
Also, notice that the brother/sister just teamed up with Claire's car jacker.

Silock
10-09-2007, 06:54 PM
Sylar hasn't done that "take off the top of her head" thing that we know of, so he hasn't taken her power yet.

MIAdragon
10-09-2007, 06:58 PM
Also, notice that the brother/sister just teamed up with Claire's car jacker.

the car was the wrong color.

Tribal Warfare
10-09-2007, 07:53 PM
On a sidenote, do you notice how many Star Trek alumnus are apart of the show now.

irishjayhawk
10-09-2007, 08:06 PM
the car was the wrong color.

Really? It was just a Rouge for the placement?

Delano
10-10-2007, 08:58 AM
Really? It was just a Rouge for the placement?

Turns out Nissan is a big sponsor of the show.

irishjayhawk
10-10-2007, 10:05 AM
Turns out Nissan is a big sponsor of the show.

:)

I must have missed that. You know, with the "No more Commercial Interruptions brought to you by Nissan."

kaplin42
10-10-2007, 10:06 AM
Really? It was just a Rouge for the placement?


What was red and placed where?

Rogue vs Rouge

Sorry man, MMO pet peeve.

Lzen
10-10-2007, 10:50 AM
On a sidenote, do you notice how many Star Trek alumnus are apart of the show now.
I noticed that one Irish guy that tried to take the cash. He played on Star Trek: Enterprise. What other Trek alums are on the show?

kaplin42
10-10-2007, 10:58 AM
I noticed that one Irish guy that tried to take the cash. He played on Star Trek: Enterprise. What other Trek alums are on the show?

Sulu was Hiro's dad, and then they just show LT. Ohura (sp?) as DL's mom / Mica's grandmother.

Tribal Warfare
10-10-2007, 11:51 AM
I noticed that one Irish guy that tried to take the cash. He played on Star Trek: Enterprise. What other Trek alums are on the show?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/00/Nichelle_Nichols.jpg/220px-Nichelle_Nichols.jpg

Ali Larter kid's grandmother is played by Nichelle Nichols or Uhura

Lzen
10-10-2007, 12:49 PM
Sulu was Hiro's dad, and then they just show LT. Ohura (sp?) as DL's mom / Mica's grandmother.

Oh yea. Duh, I forgot about him. And also Ohura. Wow, hadn't even thought about it.

Guru
10-10-2007, 01:55 PM
Oh yea. Duh, I forgot about him. And also Ohura. Wow, hadn't even thought about it.
Wow, you recognize a star trek alum from ENTERPRISE and NOT the original series? Now that is just plain backwards!

Hydrae
10-10-2007, 02:14 PM
What was red and placed where?

Rogue vs Rouge

Sorry man, MMO pet peeve.


WoW player? ;) (too many characters to list, that game is a serious weakness of mine)

I don't think the older generation necessarily has powers. I have not seen anything to give evidence to that yet. I think they are just the group that started the whole thing. Now that they know "it" works, one of them wants "it" all to themselves and is knocking off the competition. The one left becomes the super villian.

Valiant
10-10-2007, 02:21 PM
WoW player? ;) (too many characters to list, that game is a serious weakness of mine)

I don't think the older generation necessarily has powers. I have not seen anything to give evidence to that yet. I think they are just the group that started the whole thing. Now that they know "it" works, one of them wants "it" all to themselves and is knocking off the competition. The one left becomes the super villian.


But they have shown a power of the older generation, Malcom McDowall was part of the generation and had a power.. Does this mean they all do??? No, but I think they do.. I am also betting Hiro's dad is not dead.. He set the fall up so the one guy thought he was dead after fighting with mama petrelli..


And the ****ing rumor is the guy that plays peter petrelli is dating Hayden now.. SOB..

allen_kcCard
10-10-2007, 02:27 PM
Sylar can't move the cup, or freeze things, or use Candices power yet because he has the Shanti virus. When they have the virus they can't use thier powers, as was mentioned when Suresh healed the Haitian. Once Sylar finds the company and somehow gets Suresh to cure him (not sure how that will happen) his powers will come back.

He could still do the clockwork stuff where he learned her power, he just can't use it yet. They did the tick-tocks sounds, and we saw where he was just finishing looking at her brain to learn how it worked when he was holding some broken glass or something in his hand after knocking her out.

When Nikki knocked Candice out it didn't kill her, thats why she didn't turn into the fat real image...not sure why she turned back into her normal candice image. There was an online comic on nbc.com about candice that showed her as a fat goth girl with a nose ring and freakiness galore. She terrorized her popular classmates by making them appear to be deformed after some jocks killed her fellow freak friend for something she was responsible for (iirc).

This wasn't my favorite episode either. It seemed like some of the acting wasn't very good, like when Micah and Nikki ran to DLs grave....that seemed screwy and cheesy to me...Micah running and Nikki walking after him would have seemed to fit better, but ahh well.

The flying scene wasn't that bad, but the lead-up to it was terrible (where he told her to shut up befor he picked her up).

I'm hoping that the twins make up for how thier slow storyline has started out.

kaplin42
10-10-2007, 03:03 PM
WoW player? ;) (too many characters to list, that game is a serious weakness of mine)

I don't think the older generation necessarily has powers. I have not seen anything to give evidence to that yet. I think they are just the group that started the whole thing. Now that they know "it" works, one of them wants "it" all to themselves and is knocking off the competition. The one left becomes the super villian.

EQ, EQ2, DDO, VG and back to EQ2. I won't play wow cause im not a fan of the cartoonish graphics. But it just goes to show how similar MMO games are, considering you got what I was talking about.

As for the older generation, they showed Linderman healing someone didn't they?

kaplin42
10-10-2007, 03:06 PM
Sylar can't move the cup, or freeze things, or use Candices power yet because he has the Shanti virus. When they have the virus they can't use thier powers, as was mentioned when Suresh healed the Haitian. Once Sylar finds the company and somehow gets Suresh to cure him (not sure how that will happen) his powers will come back.

He could still do the clockwork stuff where he learned her power, he just can't use it yet. They did the tick-tocks sounds, and we saw where he was just finishing looking at her brain to learn how it worked when he was holding some broken glass or something in his hand after knocking her out.

When Nikki knocked Candice out it didn't kill her, thats why she didn't turn into the fat real image...not sure why she turned back into her normal candice image. There was an online comic on nbc.com about candice that showed her as a fat goth girl with a nose ring and freakiness galore. She terrorized her popular classmates by making them appear to be deformed after some jocks killed her fellow freak friend for something she was responsible for (iirc).


I had thought of this too, but it just doesn't make sense how Candice could be that stupid as to trust Sylar. I mean I guess this works just as well as my theory, and both seem kinda half assed by the writers if you ask me. I guess the next few episodes will let us know whats really going on.

allen_kcCard
10-10-2007, 03:08 PM
The older generation does have powers, but I don't think Noah is one of them...I'm not sure how it all ties in with him being in picture 8/8.

The older generation had Linderman, Charles Deveax, Hiro's dad, Mr and Mrs Pitrelli and some others that we aren't sure of yet. I think Bob is probably one of them, and there might be a couple more I am forgetting but there are several that haven't been identified yet.

All of them have powers, Linderman showed his in season 1 when he revived some roses, he was also in an online comic as a medic where he could heal people I think that was him at least....I read it a long time back.

allen_kcCard
10-10-2007, 03:12 PM
I had thought of this too, but it just doesn't make sense how Candice could be that stupid as to trust Sylar. I mean I guess this works just as well as my theory, and both seem kinda half assed by the writers if you ask me. I guess the next few episodes will let us know whats really going on.


I think she knew he wasn't able to use his powers at the time and was careless because she thought he would be harmless. I knew the pretty girl that played Candice got a new spot on Reaper, so they were going to write her out anyway and this felt a bit like a messy way to do it, but it got the job done.

kaplin42
10-10-2007, 03:38 PM
I think she knew he wasn't able to use his powers at the time and was careless because she thought he would be harmless. I knew the pretty girl that played Candice got a new spot on Reaper, so they were going to write her out anyway and this felt a bit like a messy way to do it, but it got the job done.


Well if he does have that power, then its almost like an "I win" card for him. Non one could stand up to him if he can make every see stuff that isn't even there untill he starts scalping them.

allen_kcCard
10-10-2007, 05:02 PM
Well if he does have that power, then its almost like an "I win" card for him. Non one could stand up to him if he can make every see stuff that isn't even there untill he starts scalping them.


Peter still has more. And Hiro can still do plenty to him if he can find him.

Tribal Warfare
10-10-2007, 06:19 PM
Wow, you recognize a star trek alum from ENTERPRISE and NOT the original series? Now that is just plain backwards!


Plus that Sylar is playing "young Spock" in the new Star Trek movie

BigRedChief
10-11-2007, 07:00 AM
Sylar hasn't done that "take off the top of her head" thing that we know of, so he hasn't taken her power yet.
Yep, it's an illusion or something. She's not out of the picture yet. She could be a very interesting part of the show. It opens up every concievable possibility.

BigRedChief
10-11-2007, 07:04 AM
Also, notice that the brother/sister just teamed up with Claire's car jacker.
Wrong color and he had some sports/soccer sign on the side of the car.

BigRedChief
10-11-2007, 07:06 AM
I hate the brother/sister storyline intensely. No one cares, no one cares, no one cares.
They have to be going somewhere with this but okay lets move on, we get that that had a hard time getting to NY.

allen_kcCard
10-11-2007, 07:41 AM
Yep, it's an illusion or something. She's not out of the picture yet. She could be a very interesting part of the show. It opens up every concievable possibility.


No illusion, watch it again...just because he didn't use his telekinesis to cut her head open doesn't mean he didn't cut her. There is clearly a scene right after he knocks her out where they show him with a bloody shard of glass or something else sharp....this is where he cut her open to see how she worked, and this is where se was killed....thats why she reverted to her fat true self.


She is still an interesting part of the show in that her power is now with Sylar, but Candice is gone and the actress is a regular on Reaper.

As for the mention of Sylar playing young spock, that is easily taken care of now, they just make him "go underground" by assuming a new look, then when Sylar is available to return to Heroes they can just make a reason for him to be himself again.

allen_kcCard
10-11-2007, 07:43 AM
Wrong color and he had some sports/soccer sign on the side of the car.


Yeah, they are over-using the rogue marketing. If they are going to keep using them all over the place at least make sure they are all painted totally different or something.

Braincase
10-11-2007, 07:52 AM
My take...

Kensai will be the original. All of the other humans w/ superpowers go back to him as Hero Zero.

There are loose ends... Claire's real mom is still out there and Shaft may not really be dead (per Peter Pitrelli's invisible episode from last season), but what if his daughter isn't really dead either?

I also got the impression that Linderman was going to do something for the older Pitrelli brother, because he had the ability to heal, IIRC. I wonder if he was going to get the wife out of the wheelchair?

Flyboy is going to screw up and expose himself - and Claire, Noah et al will have to get out of Dodge.

BigRedChief
10-11-2007, 08:09 AM
My take...

Kensai will be the original. All of the other humans w/ superpowers go back to him as Hero Zero.

There are loose ends... Claire's real mom is still out there and Shaft may not really be dead (per Peter Pitrelli's invisible episode from last season), but what if his daughter isn't really dead either?

I also got the impression that Linderman was going to do something for the older Pitrelli brother, because he had the ability to heal, IIRC. I wonder if he was going to get the wife out of the wheelchair?

Flyboy is going to screw up and expose himself - and Claire, Noah et al will have to get out of Dodge.
Have to agree. All reasonable assumptions. Fine and dandy with me also. Working in a retail copy shop in Calfornia as the sole bread winner but able to afford a house? And the High School scenes? Screw that.

If you want to view possible spoilers and what others think about the path of the charecters that link in the first post is a good site.

HolmeZz
10-15-2007, 06:09 PM
BOOMSHAKALAKA

raunchy cameltoe
10-15-2007, 06:13 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/00/Nichelle_Nichols.jpg/220px-Nichelle_Nichols.jpg

Ali Larter kid's grandmother is played by Nichelle Nichols or Uhura

I'd wipe the dust off that pussy.

Deberg_1990
10-15-2007, 06:15 PM
Just started getting into this show over the weekend. Im only up to episode 8 or 9. Freakin great show.


Im now convinced its one of the top 5 TV shows ever made. Im hooked. Ill have to stay away from this thread though.....

irishjayhawk
10-15-2007, 06:18 PM
Just started getting into this show over the weekend. Im only up to episode 8 or 9. Freakin great show.


Im now convinced its one of the top 5 TV shows ever made. Im hooked. Ill have to stay away from this thread though.....

I'm glad it's more story oriented rather than an X-Men action clone.

Valiant
10-15-2007, 07:08 PM
Snap..

Delano
10-15-2007, 07:10 PM
Interesting. I am excited to see how this is explained.

Valiant
10-15-2007, 07:24 PM
man they better not turn Sylar into a quasi hero ala KOTOR games..

Valiant
10-15-2007, 07:42 PM
Double snap

Valiant
10-15-2007, 07:51 PM
man they better not turn Sylar into a quasi hero ala KOTOR games..


Good I was going to pissed if they tried turning him quasi hero..

MaxFects
10-15-2007, 07:51 PM
they have to set commercial records for a sitcom

Delano
10-15-2007, 07:56 PM
they have to set commercial records for a sitcom

Heroes is a sitcom? Not . . . really.

irishjayhawk
10-15-2007, 08:04 PM
Great episode, especially the ending. A Heroes reunion in Europe.

Gotta say though, I hate the kid flying guy.



I do find it interesting that we're seeing duplications of power.

Valiant
10-15-2007, 08:07 PM
Great episode, especially the ending. A Heroes reunion in Europe.

Gotta say though, I hate the kid flying guy.



I do find it interesting that we're seeing duplications of power.


Well if there are 1000's of them that would be expected to some degree..

KcMizzou
10-15-2007, 08:11 PM
I was reading a Heroes article on Cracked.com earlier today.

There was a line.. "In the next episode, Parkman gets his head stuck in a pot of honey!"

Still makes me chuckle.

Good episode this week. No Hiro update though.

irishjayhawk
10-15-2007, 08:25 PM
Well if there are 1000's of them that would be expected to some degree..

True, but it wasn't the case in the first season, even though we knew there were more.

Ultra Peanut
10-15-2007, 08:28 PM
BOOYAKA BOOYAKA
SIX ONE NINE

ZootedGranny
10-15-2007, 09:34 PM
The predictability of this episode killed it for me. Matt's father being the all seeing evil dude, Micah winning over his cousin, the broad rocking that robber, etc.

Overall, the three storylines of Claire, Hiro & Peter all being love stories aren't helping either...hopefully Claire's story ends with West being evil.

I need to know more about Nathan's mutilated mirror face, Parkman's father & the roach king that saved Sylar.

HolmeZz
10-15-2007, 09:47 PM
The predictability of this episode killed it for me. Matt's father being the all seeing evil dude

The only way that was 'predictable' is if you had already read the spoilers.

Overall, the three storylines of Claire, Hiro & Peter all being love stories aren't helping either

Hiro's storyline is terrific, Claire's is weak, and we don't know enough about what happened to Peter yet.

the roach king that saved Sylar.

Are you talking about from the Plaza? When Hiro stabbed him? Candice said she pulled him from there.

Fat Elvis
10-15-2007, 09:54 PM
The older generation does have powers, but I don't think Noah is one of them...I'm not sure how it all ties in with him being in picture 8/8.

The older generation had Linderman, Charles Deveax, Hiro's dad, Mr and Mrs Pitrelli and some others that we aren't sure of yet. I think Bob is probably one of them, and there might be a couple more I am forgetting but there are several that haven't been identified yet.

All of them have powers, Linderman showed his in season 1 when he revived some roses, he was also in an online comic as a medic where he could heal people I think that was him at least....I read it a long time back.

Bob is definitely one of them; remember, he has the "Midas touch."

ZootedGranny
10-15-2007, 10:05 PM
The only way that was 'predictable' is if you had already read the spoilers.

You're telling me you didn't see any of those from a mile away? The second his cousin complained about not having the money to see the PPV, the connection to Micah's gift was instantly made apparent. Within the same scene, Monica is shown intently staring at the screen, and minutes later shows her skill at learning things quickly. You didn't expect her to 619 the shit out of that robber after watching it on tv?

Hiro's storyline is terrific, Claire's is weak, and we don't know enough about what happened to Peter yet.

Hiro needed to force Kensei to live up to his expectations. He accomplishes that goal, but refuses to return because of the girl? Peter starts to relearn his powers, and then falls for some broad instantly?

One of my favorite things about the first season was how quickly the story moved. This season is far too sluggish in that regard.

Are you talking about from the Plaza? When Hiro stabbed him? Candice said she pulled him from there.

I must admit the cockroach thing is likely a metaphor for survival than a tie to a character.

HolmeZz
10-15-2007, 10:07 PM
You're telling me you didn't see any of those from a mile away? The second his cousin complained about not having the money to see the PPV, the connection to Micah's gift was instantly made apparent. Within the same scene, Monica is shown intently staring at the screen, and minutes later shows her skill at learning things quickly. You didn't expect her to 619 the shit out of that robber after watching it on tv?

I don't disagree with that part. I disagreed with Matt's dad as the boogeyman being predictable.

KcMizzou
10-15-2007, 10:09 PM
BOOYAKA BOOYAKA
SIX ONE NINEI didn't know WTF a 619 was.

I learned something from this thread.

ZootedGranny
10-15-2007, 10:10 PM
I won't say it's the most logical conclusion to make, but it was the first one I made. Parkman's ability is to hear thoughts, so it made sense to me to project that his father had a similar, stronger ability while simultaneously creating a conflict with one of Parkman's main interests, Molly.

patteeu
10-15-2007, 10:20 PM
I don't disagree with that part. I disagreed with Matt's dad as the boogeyman being predictable.

Same here. I didn't see that one at all.

KcMizzou
10-15-2007, 10:25 PM
Same here. I didn't see that one at all.Me three.

kaplin42
10-16-2007, 10:20 AM
Is it just me or did this episode blow.

Claire\West\HRG - WTF, it would have been cool to see Claire and her pops team up and kick some ass against the company for just a bit, but instead, she starts dating Captain Emo. Lame.

Mica - Wha...I don't even know where to go with this one, except to wonder if this is more of the same plotless character development from the Nikki\DL\Mica story.

Sylar - How did he go from being in the middle of the jungle on top of a mountain, to lying on a road in Mexico. How very weak. If Sylar has the disease that is only curable by Suresh, then why isn't he bed ridden like the Haitian was? If he doesn't have it, why can't he use his powers?

Parkman\Suresh\Molly - I like the story line, but Parkman's dad being the boogyman is a bit cheesy. Should be interesting though to see him try to save Molly while she is trapped in her mind. Could be a training so that he become an even more powerful telepath.

The Petrelli's - While it was nice to have mom not be such a skank and own up to something I still want to know what her powers are. It was good to see Nathan get a hold of himself, although I'm curious as to what the disfigurement is that he sees in the mirror. As for Peter, I don't care how hot she is, finding out who you are would be #1 in anyones book. Having the amnesia would still be a 2nd chance, cause if you didn't like who you were, you could change it.

Valiant
10-16-2007, 11:53 AM
You're telling me you didn't see any of those from a mile away? The second his cousin complained about not having the money to see the PPV, the connection to Micah's gift was instantly made apparent. Within the same scene, Monica is shown intently staring at the screen, and minutes later shows her skill at learning things quickly. You didn't expect her to 619 the shit out of that robber after watching it on tv?



Hiro needed to force Kensei to live up to his expectations. He accomplishes that goal, but refuses to return because of the girl? Peter starts to relearn his powers, and then falls for some broad instantly?

One of my favorite things about the first season was how quickly the story moved. This season is far too sluggish in that regard.



I must admit the cockroach thing is likely a metaphor for survival than a tie to a character.



I believe Hiro tried to go back but could not.. Something is not finished yet...

kaplin42
10-16-2007, 01:15 PM
^^^ /cheer Bob Dole

HolmeZz
10-16-2007, 01:35 PM
I believe Hiro tried to go back but could not.. Something is not finished yet...

He said he was staying for the girl.

For storyline purposes, him leaving would've been stupid though. There wouldn't have been much to the Kensei plot if he had fixed everything so quickly.

I think they'll also have to explain what happened to Kensei, as he could still be alive in the present day.

Ultra Peanut
10-16-2007, 01:36 PM
I didn't know WTF a 619 was. It's the most contrived move ever. What a terrible superpower.

Overall, the three storylines of Claire, Hiro & Peter all being love stories aren't helping either...hopefully Claire's story ends with West being evil.West is a ****ing rapist.

HolmeZz
10-16-2007, 09:24 PM
Same here. I didn't see that one at all.

Because there was no real way to see that coming.

I think Matt's dad(his name has been revealed to be Maury Parkman) is literally a nightmare man. He can pray on people and their worst fears. Molly was a threat to the company so it makes sense that he'd mess with her. Also, Nathan screwed up the company's plans by not letting Peter blow up the city. Because of that, Maury is the one messing with Nathan's reflection everytime he looks into the mirror(it's also possible that's what Nathan looked like after the explosion).

He'd also be the contrast to Charles Deveaux, who's power was his ability to communicate with people in their dreams. Charles could see Peter and Maury can see Molly.

I'd also chalk up Kaito's hooded killer to being Kensei.

BigRedChief
10-17-2007, 09:17 AM
Because there was no real way to see that coming.

I think Matt's dad(his name has been revealed to be Maury Parkman) is literally a nightmare man. He can pray on people and their worst fears. Molly was a threat to the company so it makes sense that he'd mess with her. Also, Nathan screwed up the company's plans by not letting Peter blow up the city. Because of that, Maury is the one messing with Nathan's reflection everytime he looks into the mirror(it's also possible that's what Nathan looked like after the explosion).

He'd also be the contrast to Charles Deveaux, who's power was his ability to communicate with people in their dreams. Charles could see Peter and Maury can see Molly.

I'd also chalk up Kaito's hooded killer to being Kensei.Yep, maybe Kensi is Hero 1 and they are all related back to him genetically.

What about Calire's BF being able to fly? No concerns that since Claires Dad can fly that maybe they are related?

Skylar walked for 3 days to get to the road.

I think Matt has greater pwers than he knows. Ability to make people do what they don't want etc. Which would explain why Dad is a big shot in the old guard.

vincent
10-17-2007, 04:38 PM
I noticed in picture 8/8, HRG was dead and Clair was kissing a shadowman...

...I also recall Ando thinking that Daddy Nakamura's killer "must have been able to fly" or something of that nature...

...I know he kinda seems like a pussy, but...

...Claire's new flyboy-- "Old School" Killer???

Guru
10-17-2007, 06:16 PM
I noticed in picture 8/8, HRG was dead and Clair was kissing a shadowman...

...I also recall Ando thinking that Daddy Nakamura's killer "must have been able to fly" or something of that nature...

...I know he kinda seems like a pussy, but...

...Claire's new flyboy-- "Old School" Killer???
Best idea I have heard yet

HolmeZz
10-17-2007, 06:26 PM
I definitely don't see it being West.

Kaito said something along the lines of "of all the people, I can't believe it's you".

HolmeZz
10-19-2007, 10:29 PM
Well if you happened to catch the clip Greg Grunberg got to debut on The Tonight Show, it confirmed that Maury Parkman is the one screwing with Angela Petrelli. Or it certainly inferred it.

Conversely it gave the impression that Maury wasn't the one screwing with Nathan's reflection.

HolmeZz
10-22-2007, 07:07 PM
mmmmmmm Kristen Bell

Valiant
10-22-2007, 07:15 PM
Hey that black girl that learns stuff from watching tv is hot as hell, but she needs to have producers put in some videos of good actors to her to watch..

HolmeZz
10-22-2007, 07:49 PM
I guess Maury is responsible for Nathan's reflection.

Tribal Warfare
10-22-2007, 09:12 PM
Yep, maybe Kensi is Hero 1 and they are all related back to him genetically.




I believe Kensei is immortal too, and saying that it looked like Bennet popped a few shots into Kensei during that "sit down"

Delano
10-22-2007, 09:45 PM
This is getting tedious.

Guru
10-22-2007, 09:50 PM
At least we didn't get the twins storyline this week. Or Claire.

noa
10-22-2007, 09:52 PM
Why was that pole in the fast food joint in the first place? It served no purpose, other than using it to whoop a robber's ass.

Guru
10-22-2007, 09:54 PM
Why was that pole in the fast food joint in the first place? It served no purpose, other than using it to whoop a robber's ass.
It wasn't always a fast food joint. :)

Delano
10-22-2007, 10:00 PM
The unsettling effect of having so many characters is that the storylines I once enjoyed are only shown twice a month and even when they are explored, nothing significant happens.

Ultra Peanut
10-22-2007, 10:02 PM
Watching this is going to be weird, but might I go ahead and suggest that they bring in Enrico Colantoni, Percy Daggs III, Francis Capra, Tina Majorino, and Jason Dohring to round out the cast?

No? God damnit.

HolmeZz
10-23-2007, 12:05 AM
Yeah, having too many characters is starting to get quite annoying. Hiro's storyline hasn't progressed in 2 or 3 weeks.

Tribal Warfare
10-24-2007, 09:52 AM
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Found a few decent Sylar Fan edited music videos

kaplin42
10-24-2007, 10:47 AM
So I got to watch the latest episode last night.

Parkman/Nathan/Molly's story line is getting interesting.

Suresh's storyline that ties in with HRG/Haitan and by association Claire's storylines are having potential, but just seem to either a be dragging too much or spiraling off into a plotless pointless story that can have no ending.

Hiro's story is sorta of interesting, but not enough for me to want them to continue. Get to the point of it already and get Hiro back.

The preview of Sylar saying to the male twin that he is going to kill him was pretty crazy. Would be great if the kid understood him and had his sister whack him.

Kristen Bell, never seen her show before, but uhmmm, damn Yummy. And at least we know how Peter got his lighting power. Peter's storyline is the most compelling at the moment. And I have to say the irish chick with her accent makes me feel all warm and fuzzy, like when I watch teh pr0n.

Tribal Warfare
10-24-2007, 11:26 AM
The preview of Sylar saying to the male twin that he is going to kill him was pretty crazy. Would be great if the kid understood him and had his sister whack him.



I'm getting the feeling that Sylar will find Maury, and kill him. Then he'll really F*CK with all the heroes

Ultra Peanut
10-24-2007, 11:31 AM
Yeah, having too many characters is starting to get quite annoying. Hiro's storyline hasn't progressed in 2 or 3 weeks.Fine, just replace the original cast -- aside from Hiro and Ando -- with the people I mentioned. And move it to California. And make it less about superheros, and more about solving mysteries.

kthx

Seriously, Ryan Hansen would be awesome as a guy with the power to make women's clothing fall off (http://youtube.com/watch?v=Fg_cwI1Xj4M).

kaplin42
10-24-2007, 11:47 AM
I'm getting the feeling that Sylar will find Maury, and kill him. Then he'll really F*CK with all the heroes


He already has Candices power. With that it's basically an "I Win" card. Once he gets his powers back, he can make anyone come into contact see anything he wants, and then kill them while they are distracted. Maury's power would only double that.

An idea though would be that Peter gets Maury's power, and thus can see through Candace's power, or do the same thing to Sylar that Sylar would do to him.

Tribal Warfare
10-24-2007, 12:13 PM
Maury's power would only double that.




He also has magnified abilities of Parkman's and Molly's abilities too, and when he and Peter meet up again Peter will absorb those powers then the uber-battle will occur again.

Tribal Warfare
10-24-2007, 12:25 PM
I wonder if"The Invisible Man" will try to find Peter, and if Kristen Bell is his daughter.

Buck
10-24-2007, 12:32 PM
Is there any way to watch next weeks preview for next week?

The fires preempted them showing Heroes so I watched it online, but they didn't have next weeks preview.

Valiant
10-24-2007, 12:42 PM
I wonder if"The Invisible Man" will try to find Peter, and if Kristen Bell is his daughter.


I am hoping she is Malcolm McDowell's daughter or better yet Kinsei's.. But I have the feeling she has a sister named Claire.. Nathan loves knocking up people..

And Kinsei is the villian, me thinks something will happen back in time to turn him evil.. Like Hiro ****ing his girl, and then waits till Hiro is born to reek havoc..

Should come down to Kinsie and a few heroes vs. Hiro and Peter and their side..

Also I think the flying guy is Kinsei's son...

Stinger
10-24-2007, 12:46 PM
Is there any way to watch next weeks preview for next week?

The fires preempted them showing Heroes so I watched it online, but they didn't have next weeks preview.

American TV Preview

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Canadian TV Preview

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Tribal Warfare
10-24-2007, 12:50 PM
Also I think the flying guy is Kinsei's son...


I concur that Kensei is the one pulling the strings, and since his symbol is outlined on each of his victims as if he's the head of an aluminati organization.

Stinger
10-24-2007, 12:55 PM
Should come down to Kinsie and a few heroes vs. Hiro and Peter and their side.

Ultimate Tag Team Showdown ..... Kensei & Sylar vs Hiro & Peter? :hmmm:

Valiant
10-24-2007, 01:56 PM
Ultimate Tag Team Showdown ..... Kensei & Sylar vs Hiro & Peter? :hmmm:


Actually I think Sylar will be dead by then.. To show how much more villianise Kensei is..

Chan93lx50
10-24-2007, 02:33 PM
What makes Kensei so powerful? So far all he has is regenerative powers. Hell Syler would have his head cut in half in a second.

Tribal Warfare
10-24-2007, 02:54 PM
What makes Kensei so powerful? So far all he has is regenerative powers. Hell Syler would have his head cut in half in a second.



If it is true that he is immortal, and if he was the 1st he probably has all the abilities that the current heroes have due to his knowledge of his own physical dynamics. Since he is 1st he has the ability to generate all the powers that the current heroes due to the genetic relation

kaplin42
10-24-2007, 03:23 PM
If it is true that he is immortal, and if he was the 1st he probably has all the abilities that the current heroes have due to his knowledge of his own physical dynamics. Since he is 1st he has the ability to generate all the powers that the current heroes due to the genetic relation

My nerdism is about to come out, but this sounds like you are compairing him to Caine in Vampire the Masquerade. I don't think Kensei is like that. His power is that he regenerates and/or is immortal. I don't think he can pick up everyone else's powers as well.

I do think he could kill Sylar, but only because he is probably a lot more manipulative and could catch Sylar off guard.

In any fight though, if they weren't such sissys, Hiro and Peter would be about unbeatable.

Tribal Warfare
10-24-2007, 03:44 PM
My nerdism is about to come out, but this sounds like you are compairing him to Caine in Vampire the Masquerade. I don't think Kensei is like that. His power is that he regenerates and/or is immortal. I don't think he can pick up everyone else's powers as well.

I


If he's connected to everyone at the cellular level, while he was knocking boots with every women who came across his path. It isn't inconcievable to think that he has grasp how to bring out of all of the Heroes abilities, because of that genetic connection of being the 1st and understanding how one can weild such powers like a far more experienced Peter.

HolmeZz
10-24-2007, 03:55 PM
Kensei/Kane is supposed to be very powerful. There were rumors in the Summer that he also had the ability to control insects. That could tie into Sylar and the cockroaches, as they showed up after each time Sylar seemingly died.

HolmeZz
10-29-2007, 07:50 PM
HRG is badass.

Valiant
10-29-2007, 08:02 PM
White Beards flags were in that warehouse that peter visited..

HolmeZz
10-29-2007, 08:04 PM
White Beards flags were in that warehouse that peter visited..

Kensei is Adam Monroe?

Amnorix
10-29-2007, 08:10 PM
My nerdism is about to come out, but this sounds like you are compairing him to Caine in Vampire the Masquerade. I don't think Kensei is like that. His power is that he regenerates and/or is immortal. I don't think he can pick up everyone else's powers as well.

I do think he could kill Sylar, but only because he is probably a lot more manipulative and could catch Sylar off guard.

In any fight though, if they weren't such sissys, Hiro and Peter would be about unbeatable.


Cheers and rep. I've also RPG'ed in VtM

Valiant
10-29-2007, 08:27 PM
Cheers and rep. I've also RPG'ed in VtM


I played the first computer game.. The second one sucked..

HolmeZz
10-29-2007, 08:34 PM
ohsnapppppp

Monroe is Kensei and also the father of Kristin Bell's character. Maybe.

Buck
10-31-2007, 11:25 PM
Seems like Heroes is starting to have something almost like the Lost Experience.

http://www.yamagatofellowship.org/index.shtml

Guru
10-31-2007, 11:34 PM
If only Hiro had not traveled back in time and "saved" Kensei from immortality. Ironic that he changed history by saving a man that didn't need saved.

patteeu
10-31-2007, 11:50 PM
Kensei is Adam Monroe?

It would make sense for "the first" to be named Adam. :shrug:

HolmeZz
10-31-2007, 11:54 PM
If only Hiro had not traveled back in time and "saved" Kensei from immortality. Ironic that he changed history by saving a man that didn't need saved.

I think his purpose was to show Kensei the good he could do with his power. Kensei probably never would've amounted to much otherwise.

It's entirely possible Hiro was destined to 'screw up' the past too. As we're going to see, his actions in the past greatly impacted the present the show has been taking place in.

Bronko1977
10-31-2007, 11:57 PM
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10-31-2007, 11:58 PM
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11-01-2007, 12:00 AM
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11-01-2007, 12:02 AM
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11-01-2007, 12:33 AM
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11-01-2007, 12:34 AM
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11-01-2007, 12:35 AM
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Guru
11-01-2007, 12:36 AM
What is up with the mermaid?

Bronko1977
11-01-2007, 12:40 AM
What is up with the mermaid?

F*ck if I know.

Bronko1977
11-01-2007, 12:41 AM
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Bronko1977
11-01-2007, 12:41 AM
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11-01-2007, 12:43 AM
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11-01-2007, 12:44 AM
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11-01-2007, 12:45 AM
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11-01-2007, 12:47 AM
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11-01-2007, 12:48 AM
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KCChiefsMan
11-01-2007, 12:49 AM
I just watched the 1st 2 episodes of the 1st season tonight, pretty good so far. I have to wait to get the next disc in the mail in a couple days. I could definately get in to this show.

Bronko1977
11-01-2007, 12:49 AM
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KCChiefsMan
11-01-2007, 12:52 AM
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Bronko1977
11-01-2007, 12:54 AM
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Bronko1977
11-01-2007, 12:55 AM
how old is this girl? please tell me at least 18

She just turned 18. No longer jail bait. I will down another cold one to that.

Bronko1977
11-01-2007, 12:56 AM
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11-01-2007, 01:01 AM
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11-01-2007, 01:02 AM
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