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SLAG
10-02-2007, 08:51 PM
For IT Admin's and the like

whats your take on vista, compared to XP, are the core basic's still there like from 2000 to XP

is it still the same stinky windows thats always been under the hood?

Are networking componets comparable and administration of Vista box's THAT much different than XP and 2000?

Any info and insight is appreciated

Vegas_Dave
10-03-2007, 02:07 PM
For home use, Vista is fine and even for small business use. I personally still would prefer Win2000 for business use to be honest... however there really isnt the option.

Vista has too much stuff in it for business use in my opinion. Too much "bling" that is not required for businesses. However, MS isnt going to do anything different so its kind of a mute point.

The biggest problem with Vista for business right now is software compatability. Heck, even the FedEx Shipping Software does not work on Vista.

Saulbadguy
10-03-2007, 04:52 PM
We aren't thinking of rolling out Vista yet, however we have some test boxes out in the field.

We are a pretty progressive organization, too. We are currently rolling out Office 2007, if that gives you any idea.

I like Vista - it takes away alot of the users ability to **** things up, and it is easier to build images for. Plus it is pretty solid as far as stability goes, but the software compatibility isn't there yet. We run apps that some companies haven't even started to certify for Vista.

Guru
10-03-2007, 07:09 PM
We aren't thinking of rolling out Vista yet, however we have some test boxes out in the field.

We are a pretty progressive organization, too. We are currently rolling out Office 2007, if that gives you any idea.

I like Vista - it takes away alot of the users ability to **** things up, and it is easier to build images for. Plus it is pretty solid as far as stability goes, but the software compatibility isn't there yet. We run apps that some companies haven't even started to certify for Vista.


What is the name of your business Saul? Would I be familiar with it being from Topeka?

Saulbadguy
10-03-2007, 07:29 PM
What is the name of your business Saul? Would I be familiar with it being from Topeka?
KDOT.

Braincase
10-03-2007, 08:26 PM
Saul,

a: Burning a CD, giving it to Wes. Wes has the password, "KU Rules", tips on the Vista exams...

b: For Vista, M$ rewrote every .dll using secure coding techniques. I won't say that some yutz won't discover an exploit, but they're going to have to be more creative about it.

c: I noticed that FedEx currently has a beta on they're shipping software for Vista.

d: I wonder how many people have explored the Windows Application Compatibility Toolkit (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=24DA89E9-B581-47B0-B45E-492DD6DA2971&displaylang=en)

f: Turn off User Account Control!

e: (Idiotic Smaque) K-State (more idiotic smaque) KU (something so inane as to cause spontaneous laughter and milk-nose syndrome) underdog (pause, and fondly remember the first time you touched a female booby) beer (always a good way to finish).

Saulbadguy
10-03-2007, 08:50 PM
Saul,

a: Burning a CD, giving it to Wes. Wes has the password, "KU Rules", tips on the Vista exams...

b: For Vista, M$ rewrote every .dll using secure coding techniques. I won't say that some yutz won't discover an exploit, but they're going to have to be more creative about it.

c: I noticed that FedEx currently has a beta on they're shipping software for Vista.

d: I wonder how many people have explored the Windows Application Compatibility Toolkit (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=24DA89E9-B581-47B0-B45E-492DD6DA2971&displaylang=en)

f: Turn off User Account Control!

e: (Idiotic Smaque) K-State (more idiotic smaque) KU (something so inane as to cause spontaneous laughter and milk-nose syndrome) underdog (pause, and fondly remember the first time you touched a female booby) beer (always a good way to finish).
ABCDFE?

Thanks for the CD.

Braincase
10-03-2007, 09:16 PM
ABCDFE?

Thanks for the CD.

Yeah... I wrote e, then thought of something else I meant to add.

Guru
10-03-2007, 10:36 PM
KDOT.
So can I gripe at you for the idiots on the road these days. :)

Braincase
10-04-2007, 06:40 AM
So can I gripe at you for the idiots on the road these days. :)

Trust me, if KDOT could keep the idiots off the road they would. Their job is to make sure the idiots have decent roads to drive on, and they do a better job of that than any other DOT in the Midwest.

KC Jones
10-04-2007, 08:06 AM
KDOT.

Do you guys still buy PCs from Microtech?

Saulbadguy
10-04-2007, 08:45 AM
So can I gripe at you for the idiots on the road these days. :)
Try the KHP for that. ;)

Saulbadguy
10-04-2007, 08:46 AM
Do you guys still buy PCs from Microtech?
No.

Is microtech even in business anymore?

KC Jones
10-04-2007, 08:58 AM
No.

Is microtech even in business anymore?

I would hope not. Cheapest, scummiest, meanest bitch in the world running that thing into the ground. Her husband was the technical brains behind it, but she was running the show. She was so cheap and stupid that when a guy showed up offering to haul off the cardboard for recycling so she didn't have to pay for as many dumpster pickups, she said no because she wanted him to pay her for the cardboard she was throwing out. Just one of many examples I had from working there while in school.

chasedude
10-04-2007, 10:14 AM
I haven't implemented it in our network here yet.

1) We don't have the money to do it being Non-Profit

2) Being the ONLY tech/admin I'm not ready to train anyone on it yet.

We still use XP Pro and office 2003 here and things are running smoothly. I get enough headaches from everything else, I'm not ready for Vista to cause more.

Fish
10-04-2007, 11:43 AM
I would hope not. Cheapest, scummiest, meanest bitch in the world running that thing into the ground. Her husband was the technical brains behind it, but she was running the show. She was so cheap and stupid that when a guy showed up offering to haul off the cardboard for recycling so she didn't have to pay for as many dumpster pickups, she said no because she wanted him to pay her for the cardboard she was throwing out. Just one of many examples I had from working there while in school.

Haha.... Microtech was total shiite.... I used to work for USD 383 as a PC tech, and we went with Microtech for a short time. We honestly recieved machines that had PCI cards held to the case using twisty ties. Guess they were too cheap to use machine screws...

They also used duct tape to cover the holes in the back of the case, cause they were putting newer mobos in an old ISA case that didn't fit.

Braincase
10-04-2007, 11:45 AM
No.

Is microtech even in business anymore?

Still over just off Wakarusa in Lawrence. A big chuck of what they are now is Atipa, doing Linux Beowulf clustered Supercomputers.