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keg in kc
04-05-2009, 09:54 PM
Well fuck me, that ruins the entire show.

Mecca
04-05-2009, 09:54 PM
And Triple H goes over clean...stunner.

Jerm
04-05-2009, 09:54 PM
Fuck this fucking shit.

Farzin
04-05-2009, 09:54 PM
Wow...screw that...

dirk digler
04-05-2009, 09:54 PM
That was it? FAIL

keg in kc
04-05-2009, 09:55 PM
Only CM Punk can save this.

Jerm
04-05-2009, 09:55 PM
What a LAME main event, the crowd was so dead.

Ultra Peanut
04-05-2009, 09:55 PM
I want my 30 minutes back.

Mecca
04-05-2009, 09:55 PM
Fuck this fucking shit.

You should have known it was coming...it's Triple H.

Mile High Mania
04-05-2009, 09:55 PM
Ha...

Mecca
04-05-2009, 09:55 PM
That was it? FAIL

H burries another...that's his legacy.

dirk digler
04-05-2009, 09:56 PM
So on Raw they are going to say HHH should have lost and then Orton will win the title

Jerm
04-05-2009, 09:56 PM
You should have known it was coming...it's Triple H.

True, figured he would've won but that was just lame beyond belief.

keg in kc
04-05-2009, 09:56 PM
Anybody cheering in that arena should be sterilized right now.

keg in kc
04-05-2009, 09:56 PM
That was just horrible. I expected it and it was still horrible.

Mecca
04-05-2009, 09:56 PM
So on Raw they are going to say HHH should have lost and then Orton will win the title

No they're going to say Triple H avenged his family and is a hero.

dirk digler
04-05-2009, 09:56 PM
Well most of the matches were good especially Undertaker\Michaels. That was one of the best matches I have ever watched.

Mecca
04-05-2009, 09:57 PM
For a guy that idolized Flair growing up, Triple H isn't Flair, he's Hogan.

keg in kc
04-05-2009, 09:57 PM
No they're going to say Triple H avenged his family and is a hero.Yep.

And HHH will be coming back to Raw in the draft.

unothadeal
04-05-2009, 09:57 PM
I'd rather have had 4 hours of Austin going turnbuckle to turnbuckle drinking beers.

Farzin
04-05-2009, 09:58 PM
Wow.....honestly WWE? All that hype for the biggest event, Wrestlemania! That's how it ends?

dirk digler
04-05-2009, 09:58 PM
No they're going to say Triple H avenged his family and is a hero.

Probably, HHH is going to lose the title soon probably Backlash?

BryanBusby
04-05-2009, 09:58 PM
What an awful uninspiring ending.

unothadeal
04-05-2009, 09:59 PM
For a guy that idolized Flair growing up, Triple H isn't Flair, he's Hogan.

Well put.

Mr. Arrowhead
04-05-2009, 09:59 PM
LMAO

keg in kc
04-05-2009, 09:59 PM
Well most of the matches were good especially Undertaker\Michaels. That was one of the best matches I have ever watched.The whole show was better than I expected it to be with the exception of the last half hour. That really deflates the whole for me, though.

Imagine how we'd be talking about that PPV right now if Taker had pinned Michaels 5 minutes ago instead of that bullshit.

Mecca
04-05-2009, 09:59 PM
Probably, HHH is going to lose the title soon probably Backlash?

Ha H losing anytime soon...

Ultra Peanut
04-05-2009, 09:59 PM
THIS is how you build new stars, guys!

Jerm
04-05-2009, 10:00 PM
For a guy that idolized Flair growing up, Triple H isn't Flair, he's Hogan.

No shit lol.

I mean, even at the HOF ceremony, Steamboat was putting him over...I wanted to puke.

It's never ending.

Mr. Arrowhead
04-05-2009, 10:00 PM
that was the most uninspiring WM main event i have ever seen

Ultra Peanut
04-05-2009, 10:01 PM
The whole show was better than I expected it to be with the exception of the last half hour. That really deflates the whole for me, though.

Imagine how we'd be talking about that PPV right now if Taker had pinned Michaels 5 minutes ago instead of that bullshit.It's supposed to be "really good-cooldown-great," not "phenomenal-pretty good-mediocre."

keg in kc
04-05-2009, 10:01 PM
Probably, HHH is going to lose the title soon probably Backlash?I still think they go 6-man for Backlash and then title at Summerslam, but I don't see how they can get the title on Orton now.

And Punk won't be cashing in for months I would say (which is fine). They're not going to put him over HHH or Cena, unless the plan is to have him cash in, lose and then get buried.

dirk digler
04-05-2009, 10:01 PM
For a guy that idolized Flair growing up, Triple H isn't Flair, he's Hogan.

I like HHH but I have to agree. As much as people bag on Cena at least he puts people over

alanm
04-05-2009, 10:02 PM
So who won? I was watching on justin tv and the feed went to shit right after HHH hit Orton with his sledge. Everyone was pissed. :D

keg in kc
04-05-2009, 10:03 PM
So who won? I was watching on justin tv and the feed went to shit right after HHH hit Orton with his sledge. Everyone was pissed.Hun-Tor.

Farzin
04-05-2009, 10:03 PM
Well, I can see HBK joining HHH bringing back DX that way it's not always a 3 vs 1 team up. I'd rather see DX back rather than see the McMahons and HHH fight Legacy.

keg in kc
04-05-2009, 10:03 PM
So when is the draft, next monday (week from tomorrow)? Or the 20th? I don't remember.

dirk digler
04-05-2009, 10:03 PM
The whole show was better than I expected it to be with the exception of the last half hour. That really deflates the whole for me, though.

Imagine how we'd be talking about that PPV right now if Taker had pinned Michaels 5 minutes ago instead of that bullshit.

If the Undertaker\Michaels match would have been last this would have been considered one of the greatest WM's in history

Mecca
04-05-2009, 10:03 PM
I like HHH but I have to agree. As much as people bag on Cena at least he puts people over

He didn't for a long time........Cena is the companies chosen one he doesn't lose because he's not booked to lose.

Guys like Taker and H don't lose because they have pull and basically refuse to lose.

unothadeal
04-05-2009, 10:04 PM
New DX is beyond shit.

Mecca
04-05-2009, 10:04 PM
So when is the draft, next monday (week from tomorrow)? Or the 20th? I don't remember.

Yea 8 days.

BryanBusby
04-05-2009, 10:05 PM
Wrestlemania would of been a much better show if they went off the air after Undertaker-HBK. Both title matches were rather forgettable.

Reaper16
04-05-2009, 10:05 PM
He didn't for a long time........Cena is the companies chosen one he doesn't lose because he's not booked to lose.

Guys like Taker and H don't lose because they have pull and basically refuse to lose.
Taker and Haitch aren't even in the same building. Taker puts a considerably larger amount of people over.

alanm
04-05-2009, 10:06 PM
Hun-Tor.Figures. Hell you knew that going in. :shake:

keg in kc
04-05-2009, 10:06 PM
Well, I can see HBK joining HHH bringing back DX that way it's not always a 3 vs 1 team up. I'd rather see DX back rather than see the McMahons and HHH fight Legacy.I don't know where they go with most of these programs, which is I think part of the problem at building all these feuds so late.

What do you do with Jericho now?
What do you do with Misterio and the IC title?
What do you do with Shawn and 'taker?
Cena/Edge/Show?

You'd think Legacy versus the McMahons has to keep going, but HHH has basically kicked his ass over and over in any one-on-one situation, and Legacy usually has trouble 3 on 1.

Mecca
04-05-2009, 10:06 PM
I still can't believe Triple H's ridiculous mainevent at mania number...for all the guys that company has had then to realize his number you'd think he was the biggest star ever.

Reaper16
04-05-2009, 10:06 PM
I'm kind of stoked to see the replay. I just have to find a stream that isn't crapping out first.

Mecca
04-05-2009, 10:06 PM
Taker and Haitch aren't even in the same building. Taker puts a considerably larger amount of people over.

Taker gets a pass from people because he's more well liked than H is, they've both been just as bad on numerous occasions.

unothadeal
04-05-2009, 10:07 PM
I still can't believe Triple H's ridiculous mainevent at mania number...for all the guys that company has had then to realize his number you'd think he was the biggest star ever.

What is it?

keg in kc
04-05-2009, 10:07 PM
Hell, taker put Kozlov over this year. He's not HHH.

Mecca
04-05-2009, 10:08 PM
What is it?

His amount of Mania mainevents...I think it's 6 or 7, the only reason it's not close to 10 is he missed a couple due to injuries.

dirk digler
04-05-2009, 10:08 PM
He didn't for a long time........Cena is the companies chosen one he doesn't lose because he's not booked to lose.

Guys like Taker and H don't lose because they have pull and basically refuse to lose.

True he held the title for what 13 months? How long has HHH held the title? I bet he is going to break that record.

But since Cena has lost the title he has lost quite a bit.

Mecca
04-05-2009, 10:08 PM
Hell, taker put Kozlov over this year. He's not HHH.

He's better about it than he was but lets remember this is the guy that they had to do 2 straight PPV matches with Lesnar because before the 1st one Taker busted out "I'm not feelin it"

keg in kc
04-05-2009, 10:08 PM
Replay is starting. I still can't believe Punk won money in the bank.

I was hoping it was Christian, just to get a new face in the main event picture.

Mecca
04-05-2009, 10:09 PM
True he held the title for what 13 months? How long has HHH held the title? I bet he is going to break that record.

But since Cena has lost the title he has lost quite a bit.

By the time H retires he'll have more title reigns than Flair did...he'll make sure of it.

keg in kc
04-05-2009, 10:09 PM
True he held the title for what 13 months? How long has HHH held the title? I bet he is going to break that record.I'm actually surprised HHH didn't lose it just so he can get it back in a few weeks and get closer to passing Flair's number.

dirk digler
04-05-2009, 10:10 PM
I don't know where they go with most of these programs, which is I think part of the problem at building all these feuds so late.

What do you do with Jericho now?
What do you do with Misterio and the IC title?
What do you do with Shawn and 'taker?
Cena/Edge/Show?

You'd think Legacy versus the McMahons has to keep going, but HHH has basically kicked his ass over and over in any one-on-one situation, and Legacy usually has trouble 3 on 1.

Good point. That is probably why they are having a draft so they can get new storylines.

Mecca
04-05-2009, 10:10 PM
Replay is starting. I still can't believe Punk won money in the bank.

I was hoping it was Christian, just to get a new face in the main event picture.

I read a thing about that saying Vince still views Christian the same way he did before he left as not a top guy...then it said he was lucky to even get in the money in the bank because being on ECW they had to push for him to get in.

keg in kc
04-05-2009, 10:11 PM
He's better about it than he was but lets remember this is the guy that they had to do 2 straight PPV matches with Lesnar because before the 1st one Taker busted out "I'm not feelin it"I don't particularly like taker, I'm just sayin'...

HHH just beat orton clean in the Main event. All hail the king of kings.

keg in kc
04-05-2009, 10:12 PM
I read a thing about that saying Vince still views Christian the same way he did before he left as not a top guy...then it said he was lucky to even get in the money in the bank because being on ECW they had to push for him to get in.I don't know how they could see Punk as being any higher on the pecking order (and I'm a punk fan...).

Although if they book him stronger this year, maybe they can make him more than a lightweight who gets his ass kicked for 5 minutes and then wins late.

Farzin
04-05-2009, 10:12 PM
I don't know where they go with most of these programs, which is I think part of the problem at building all these feuds so late.

What do you do with Jericho now?
What do you do with Misterio and the IC title?
What do you do with Shawn and 'taker?
Cena/Edge/Show?

You'd think Legacy versus the McMahons has to keep going, but HHH has basically kicked his ass over and over in any one-on-one situation, and Legacy usually has trouble 3 on 1.
Jericho-He keeps up his acts until one legend can shut him up. (Who knows who that could be...)

Mysterio-He's IC champ. Anything can happen.

Shawn/Taker-I think they are both done. There is nothing more that needs to happen. They both go their own separate ways now.

Cena/Edge/Show-I can see this whole thing continuing without Big Show. Then Big Show eventually joins in to face Cena for the title during the Summer.

HHH/Orton/Legacy/McMahons-Not sure who turns on who or what happens. But I think it will end at Judgement Day in a Hell in the Cell match. We can only hope that Orton will win in that.



That's my prediction.

Ultra Peanut
04-05-2009, 10:13 PM
Punk cashes in MITB to challenge Rey, loses.

Mecca
04-05-2009, 10:14 PM
Shawn/Taker is done they don't even work on the same shows and won't.

dirk digler
04-05-2009, 10:14 PM
By the time H retires he'll have more title reigns than Flair did...he'll make sure of it.

I'm actually surprised HHH didn't lose it just so he can get it back in a few weeks and get closer to passing Flair's number.

I have no doubt HHH will pass Flair at some point. HHH is just lucky he married into the family.

Do you guys know when HHH regained the title last year?

Mecca
04-05-2009, 10:14 PM
Man I even wore my Orton shirt today....damn it!

dirk digler
04-05-2009, 10:15 PM
I read a thing about that saying Vince still views Christian the same way he did before he left as not a top guy...then it said he was lucky to even get in the money in the bank because being on ECW they had to push for him to get in.

That is dumb. Christian is awesome.

Mecca
04-05-2009, 10:15 PM
I have no doubt HHH will pass Flair at some point. HHH is just lucky he married into the family.

Do you guys know when HHH regained the title last year?

He's only had it since No Way Out...he beat Edge then Edge went and got the other belt the same night...that's really only about 2 months.

Mecca
04-05-2009, 10:16 PM
That is dumb. Christian is awesome.

Dude this is the WWE, Vince has and always will have a big man fetish.

keg in kc
04-05-2009, 10:18 PM
Jericho-He keeps up his acts until one legend can shut him up. (Who knows who that could be...)Hogan at SummerSlam.Mysterio-He's IC champ. Anything can happen.I think he's going back to smackdown, and my guess is he isn't taking the IC title with him, unless they're bringing the US title to Raw.Shawn/Taker-I think they are both done. There is nothing more that needs to happen. They both go their own separate ways now.I was hoping they were leading up to Shawn/Jericho with the watch thing a couple weeks back, but it doesn't look like it.Cena/Edge/Show-I can see this whole thing continuing without Big Show. Then Big Show eventually joins in to face Cena for the title during the Summer.Cena and Edge (both of whom I like) feel like they've been feuding for years (which they have). They need to have somebody else challenge Cena now, and Big Show and Edge need to finish their own feud.HHH/Orton/Legacy/McMahons-Not sure who turns on who or what happens. But I think it will end at Judgement Day in a Hell in the Cell match. We can only hope that Orton will win in that.I have no idea where that one's going. I'm still stuck on being really disappointed about Hun-tor winning tonight.

That feud could have been so much more, if they didn't keep cutting Orton's feet out from under him every two weeks. He should be the company's main heel now, but they've ****ed that all up (and not just because of tonight's match).

keg in kc
04-05-2009, 10:18 PM
Punk cashes in MITB to challenge Rey, loses.I was just thinking about that, actually. Punk cashing in on the IC title.

God, what an idiot he'd look like, win or lose.

Farzin
04-05-2009, 10:19 PM
Wow that sucks about the whole Christian deal if that's true.

Mecca
04-05-2009, 10:19 PM
Triple H is really good at undercutting Orton...that's twice now.

dirk digler
04-05-2009, 10:21 PM
He's only had it since No Way Out...he beat Edge then Edge went and got the other belt the same night...that's really only about 2 months.

Dude this is the WWE, Vince has and always will have a big man fetish.

Really? I thought he has had it forever or just seems that way.

I went and looked up Christian's size he is 6-2 235 and Orton is only 6-4 245 so like I said that is dumb

Mecca
04-05-2009, 10:22 PM
Really? I thought he has had it forever or just seems that way.

I went and looked up Christian's size he is 6-2 235 and Orton is only 6-4 245 so like I said that is dumb

Look at them...and Orton is a 2nd generation guy who they also have hardons for.

keg in kc
04-05-2009, 10:23 PM
You know, meltzer made a good point. Vicky tomorrow (if she's not dead from the spear) could order a rematch or even strip the title due to HHH using the sledgehammer.

dirk digler
04-05-2009, 10:24 PM
Look at them...and Orton is a 2nd generation guy who they also have hardons for.

Orton is quite a bit more muscular but they both have a slim build.

Just going by the stats at WWE Cena is 6-1 240. Of course most of that is pure muscle.

Christian has the personality to be a top guy plus he is a very good wrestler.

Reaper16
04-05-2009, 10:25 PM
I don't think that a good stream exists for the replay. :(

dirk digler
04-05-2009, 10:26 PM
You know, meltzer made a good point. Vicky tomorrow (if she's not dead from the spear) could order a rematch or even strip the title due to HHH using the sledgehammer.

See that was my point. HHH wins tonight to get all the glory and then loses tomorrow at Raw. You could see it coming because all they talked about was the DQ.

Mecca
04-05-2009, 10:28 PM
Or they'll do that and H will win it right back...

BryanBusby
04-05-2009, 10:30 PM
See that was my point. HHH wins tonight to get all the glory and then loses tomorrow at Raw. You could see it coming because all they talked about was the DQ.
Don't see it happening that quick. Probably something more like Orton contends HHH cheated, gets rematch at Backlash and beats him there.

The most amusing part of the night was the WWE cares so little about Tag Teams now, they got bumped to a Dark Match so Kid Rock had time.

Mecca
04-05-2009, 10:32 PM
They might find a way to get Orton a rematch but I don't see H losing.

dirk digler
04-05-2009, 10:36 PM
I went and looked at Triple HHH's title history in the last year he has lead the WWE title 4 times. No wonder I thought he has held it forever.

Mecca
04-05-2009, 10:41 PM
Wouldn't Triple HHH be like 6 H's?

Farzin
04-05-2009, 10:44 PM
I still cannot believe the way the main event ended after all that hype for a WM match.

Mecca
04-05-2009, 10:48 PM
I still cannot believe the way the main event ended after all that hype for a WM match.

Casual fans are probably happy...H is the good guy and he beat that awful dude Orton who beat up his wife.

Farzin
04-05-2009, 10:51 PM
Casual fans are probably happy...H is the good guy and he beat that awful dude Orton who beat up his wife.

Being a long time WWE fan...HHH is not good as a face. Second off, since when was it considered "sickening" that someone would attack the McMahons. I remember how everyone would cheer when that would happen. I admit that I don't follow wrestling as much, but that's messed up lol.

Mecca
04-05-2009, 10:53 PM
People like the McMahons its fuckin stupid.

unothadeal
04-05-2009, 11:06 PM
Wouldn't Triple HHH be like 6 H's?

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okcchief
04-05-2009, 11:28 PM
Really? I thought he has had it forever or just seems that way.

I went and looked up Christian's size he is 6-2 235 and Orton is only 6-4 245 so like I said that is dumb

I met Orton and he is six foot at best. I'm about 6'6 and I completely towered over him. The WWE exaggerates their size big time.

Mecca
04-05-2009, 11:35 PM
Ok I'm guessing he's over 6ft tall if he wasn't Mysterio would be like 4'10.

Boris The Great
04-05-2009, 11:55 PM
Taker-HBK was an all time great match. MITB was really good, which is kind of funny since so many people were talking about how it would suck. The Hardy match had a cool ending. The brief stuff with Jericho and Steamboat was good.

The rest was pretty bad. Except the Steamboat parts, the whole Jericho-legends thing (Mickey Rourke included) stunk to high heaven. Rourke must have taken 10 minutes just to get in the ring. I cant believe people are seriously surprised that Cena and HHH won, but both title matches were lousy.

How nice that they cut out the tag title match, had no entrances for the diva battle royal, had to rush the end of HHH-Orton with the ref noticeably telling them to hurry, and the PPV even cut off before the music video ended, all so we could get Rourke and Kid Rock needlessly taking up time.

Rey Misterio as Dink was an interesting wardrobe choice. I hope JBL is going to do commentary, he and JR would be a great team.

Marty Mac Ver 2.0
04-05-2009, 11:56 PM
I think the Rock will be inducted next year here in Arizona. Maybe the Rock will stop Jericho.

Reaper16
04-05-2009, 11:57 PM
Rey Misterio as Dink was an interesting wardrobe choice.
It was The Joker from TDK.

Speaking of... a Rey squash match against a big man where Rey was doing the squashing... never thought I'd see that.

Mecca
04-06-2009, 12:02 AM
I think the Rock will be inducted next year here in Arizona. Maybe the Rock will stop Jericho.

The Rock got inducted last year in case you missed it.

Ultra Peanut
04-06-2009, 12:14 AM
The Rock got inducted last year in case you missed it.http://j.photos.cx/1238987777663-bb4.jpg

And laffo:

Orton/HHH: Terrible main event for WrestleMania; would have been bad for No Mercy, etc. The crowd was distracted for the second half by the boom camera operator, who responded to their chants of "We Want Camera" by swinging the camera back and forth over them...while they were clearly not being broadcast. I hope the match came over better on the Tv, but live it was a joke.

And aaaaaauuuuuuuughghghghg what the FUCK?!:

Vince McMahon lost faith in Swagger after his lackluster outing with Finlay at No Way Out. While McMahon still wants to push him, they don't feel he's ready for live television quite yet.

Ultra Peanut
04-06-2009, 12:21 AM
Hey, bitch! Wait'll ya see my OP:

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BigRock
04-06-2009, 12:22 AM
The Rock got inducted last year in case you missed it.

That was for his dad and grandpa. Rock himself isn't in yet.

Pretty bad show, I thought, only saved by the heavenly grace of Shawn and Taker. And Jim Ross. MAH GOD. IN THE NAME OF ALL THAT IS DECENT. I JUST HAD AN OUT OF BODY EXPERIENCE.

Mecca
04-06-2009, 12:23 AM
Ah well shit nevermind then....right now the only thing going on with Rock is Cena keeps talking shit about him.

BigRock
04-06-2009, 12:24 AM
Hey, bitch! Wait'll ya see my OP:

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Reaper16
04-06-2009, 12:48 AM
Holy wow... the Undertaker/HBK match was as good as I hoped it would be. There was so much to love about that match. Taker's face after Shawn kicked out of the 1st Tombstone was priceless. I was also fond of a smaller moment -- when Taker sidewalk slammed Shawn while Shawn had a crossface applied -- because I did that to a friend in our middle school backyard wrestling fed.

That was the best WWE match I've seen since, well, Taker/Edge at last year's Mania.

Ultra Peanut
04-06-2009, 02:20 AM
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Reaper16
04-06-2009, 02:36 AM
Money in the Bank was better than I thought it would be. Christian seemed to get a sizable pop.

Mecca
04-06-2009, 02:47 AM
The crowd wanted Christian to win based on what I heard when he was at the top of the ladder...and guys getting booed for coming up with him like CM Punk.

Mecca
04-06-2009, 05:30 AM
I've also already come across this being spewed...you guys will love it..

HHH HAS been unselfish at Mania.

Lost to Benoit at 20, lost to Batista at 21, lost to Cena at 22, missed 23, lost to Orton/Cena at 24.

Is it so wrong to think he could have a victory for himself in 5 years?

No we can't cause HE'S THE EVIL HHH HE'S HOLDING EVERYONE DOWN !!!!!!! OH NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! SO WHAT IF HE LOST AT THREE PPVS IN A ROW!!!!! HE'S STILL BURYING THE GUY!!!!!

Mecca
04-06-2009, 06:04 AM
So basically this is what I've seen..."people are only ripping on this because HHH won" "HHH should have won" "More bashing of the nets whipping boy H" and of course the he always loses at mania defense...or the "The wwe always puts a face over to end mania thats just how it is"

I love the he always loses at mania one seeing as he will lose his mania match then win 99% of the other matches he has that year...

All these rules apply unless of course you are Triple H...he mainevented and won at Mania as a heel..

He faced a guy in Booker T where he threw racial slurs at him in which Booker T obviously should have won yet Triple H won...

And then people wonder why he has hate, when he wins due to booking logic his fans go "he should have won you just hate him" then when he wins when it's completely illogical you are met with um "you just hate him!" or something of the sort.

Sfeihc
04-06-2009, 08:11 AM
Taker/HBK stole the show but given the card that isn't too surprising. Can one of you fine gentlemen please inform me what happened to Tazz?

keg in kc
04-06-2009, 08:12 AM
His contract was up and he didn't sign a new one. Friday was his last show.

'Hamas' Jenkins
04-06-2009, 12:02 PM
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The Divas Battle Royal at least was out of the way early, but Iím surprised that it didnít occur in the popcorn match slot.
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Iím glad I downloaded it so I could skip past the Kid Rock ďconcertĒ.
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The Jericho-Legends match was booked much better than I had hoped. Iím glad <st1:city w:st="on">Austin</st1:city> didnít come out, and <st1:city w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Jericho</st1:place></st1:city> deserved to go over, but they booked themselves into a corner
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The Hardysí match was pretty bad. It was a spot fest without any memorable spots, save for the Twist of Fate on the chair at the end.
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The JBL-Mysterio match was pointless. As much as I hate JBL, wasting 5 minutes of time that could go to either main event (w/ entrances and the promo) was pretty pointless.
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Michaelsí entrance, his hat, and the duster were the very definition of win. Great match, easily the match of the night. Funny thing about Shawn is that he always shows his stroke through match length
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The Triple Threat Match was pretty blah. I just hate Triple Threats for the title.
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The Main Event was pretty underwhelming. The crowd was dead and the finish basically came out of nowhere without any type of build. One of the worst WM MEís I can remember, honestly, maybe the worst Main Event since 11.

'Hamas' Jenkins
04-06-2009, 12:10 PM
Has Big Rock shown up to defend HHH yet?

unothadeal
04-06-2009, 01:16 PM
The Main Event was pretty underwhelming. The crowd was dead and the finish basically came out of nowhere without any type of build. One of the worst WM MEís I can remember, honestly, maybe the worst Main Event since 11.

It was weird how it went:

Punt
Sledgehammer
Punches in the face
Pedigree
3 count

It was just......weird.

unothadeal
04-06-2009, 01:58 PM
And how how much of a tool was Michael Cole when Austin was driving around the ring?

"Heeeeeeee's Baaaaaaack"

SHUT UP COLE

'Hamas' Jenkins
04-06-2009, 02:05 PM
It was weird how it went:

Punt
Sledgehammer
Punches in the face
Pedigree
3 count

It was just......weird.

I know that they were rushed for time, but that's the fault of the dumbasses who gave Kid Rock carte blanche for 10 minutes and let SCSA have 55 beer bashes when the four turnbuckles is more than enough.

4 hours is more than enough time. And I'm sorry, but I really don't see any reason why WM ME's and semi-mains can't go for 25-30 minutes. They just need to strip the bullshit down to a bare minimum.

The Diva Battle Royal was pointless and just buried them (as if they needed any help doing that) as a division.

MITB was about the right length.
The Legends match was a fine length
The Hardy match was a good length but was too stop-start b/c of its spotty nature
HBK-Taker showed what you can do with 30+ minutes if you pace yourself correctly.
Both other MEs were too short.

Sometimes, I wonder if Creative is honestly fucking retarded. Look at the match lengths at WM X7 and tell me what went on too long? That show was the epitome of how to pace a PPV.

However, ever since 21, they've been completely unable to pace their title matches. Happened with the Cena-JBL match, the Triple Threat at 22, the Triple Threat at 24, and last night.

More importantly, one of the reasons why the crowd was dead for the finish was because they didn't want to see HHH go over.

I still want someone to explain to me how that was the right move "for the business" to have a 39 year old guy whose blown two quads and won 13 world titles go over clean in the ME against a guy who turned 29 last week and who has lost every high profile match he's had against said 39 year old, save for one (which was the 39 year old's 3rd match of the night).

It's just stupid.

Tonight's Raw is probably make-or-break for me for a while. If they continue the new year with this kind of dumbassery, I'll probably just do what I did after Michaels and Jericho had their blow off and Orton was hurt--tune out.

'Hamas' Jenkins
04-06-2009, 02:09 PM
This Week on RAW:

Triple H takes on three squads of Delta, no sells a belt of SAW rounds and an M203 to the chest, and kick-wham-pedigrees them straight to Arlington.

'Hamas' Jenkins
04-06-2009, 02:12 PM
Here's a good one:

Let's briefly review the current state of WWE:

Top Champions: Cena and HHH

MITB Winner: CM Punk

IC Title: worthless

Tag Titles: somehow more worthless

ECW Title: negative worth

Entire Female Roster: a joke

So we have the same two guys on top from Wrestlemania 22, which by itself might not be a bad sign. Except that the top two heels in the company both got jobbed out. Rather than any of several guys in need of a push winning MITB, Punk is exactly where he was a year ago. All secondary titles are worthless but the US title. I say that based solely on booking, not personal opinion of current champs. The entire women's division was the setup for a punchline that made no one laugh (I hope).

Who did Wrestlemania 25 help? Who will fans now have a greater respect for and either see as a top guy for the first time, or at least get excited over buying tickets to see? Neither Cena, Hunter nor Taker made any new fans. The only guy who possibly came out better than he went in is Matt Hardy, and good for him. The biggest show of the year, with a single exception, managed to tread water and accomplish nothing. It will now take months for them to undo their own damage and rebuild their roster's credibility.

otherstar
04-06-2009, 02:12 PM
4 hours is more than enough time. And I'm sorry, but I really don't see any reason why WM ME's and semi-mains can't go for 25-30 minutes. They just need to strip the bullshit down to a bare minimum.



These two sentences detail exactly why I seldom watch pro wrestling anymore. The matches are too short, too unbelievalbe, and there is too much other junk going on. I guess growing up and watching Sunday Morning wrestling on Channel 41 when Harly Race was in his heyday ruined me. :D

BigRock
04-06-2009, 02:40 PM
Has Big Rock shown up to defend HHH yet?

Defend him from what? Winning? I would have liked seeing Orton win as much as anyone, but I don't know why anyone's surprised he didn't.

HHH usually wins. Like I've said before, you either roll your eyes and put up with it, or you find something else to do. I'm more bothered by the fact they had a shit match than who won.

BigRock
04-06-2009, 02:42 PM
These two sentences detail exactly why I seldom watch pro wrestling anymore. The matches are too short, too unbelievalbe, and there is too much other junk going on. I guess growing up and watching Sunday Morning wrestling on Channel 41 when Harly Race was in his heyday ruined me. :D

When I was a boy, we had to walk three miles uphill to get to school! Both ways!

(which is to say "things my grandpa would tell me for $500, Alex")

okcchief
04-06-2009, 02:43 PM
Ok I'm guessing he's over 6ft tall if he wasn't Mysterio would be like 4'10.

He might be 6'1 and mysterio is probably like 5 foot. I have a picture of my 5'4 wife towering over him lol.

Ultra Peanut
04-06-2009, 03:45 PM
Straight-up lolllllllin':

Whether or not they're serious about this being the last real appearance of Austin, I kind of had to laugh at that whole farewell segment. Because back in Wrestlemania 3 they had a big farewell segment going on too. It was for Roddy Piper.

Mecca
04-06-2009, 03:49 PM
I know that they were rushed for time, but that's the fault of the dumbasses who gave Kid Rock carte blanche for 10 minutes and let SCSA have 55 beer bashes when the four turnbuckles is more than enough.

4 hours is more than enough time. And I'm sorry, but I really don't see any reason why WM ME's and semi-mains can't go for 25-30 minutes. They just need to strip the bullshit down to a bare minimum.

The Diva Battle Royal was pointless and just buried them (as if they needed any help doing that) as a division.

MITB was about the right length.
The Legends match was a fine length
The Hardy match was a good length but was too stop-start b/c of its spotty nature
HBK-Taker showed what you can do with 30+ minutes if you pace yourself correctly.
Both other MEs were too short.

Sometimes, I wonder if Creative is honestly fucking retarded. Look at the match lengths at WM X7 and tell me what went on too long? That show was the epitome of how to pace a PPV.

However, ever since 21, they've been completely unable to pace their title matches. Happened with the Cena-JBL match, the Triple Threat at 22, the Triple Threat at 24, and last night.

More importantly, one of the reasons why the crowd was dead for the finish was because they didn't want to see HHH go over.

I still want someone to explain to me how that was the right move "for the business" to have a 39 year old guy whose blown two quads and won 13 world titles go over clean in the ME against a guy who turned 29 last week and who has lost every high profile match he's had against said 39 year old, save for one (which was the 39 year old's 3rd match of the night).

It's just stupid.

Tonight's Raw is probably make-or-break for me for a while. If they continue the new year with this kind of dumbassery, I'll probably just do what I did after Michaels and Jericho had their blow off and Orton was hurt--tune out.

I've seen several people argue that H had to go over because of the way it was built. Basically if he doesn't go over he looks like a doofus and a bad husband they can't have him lose the way that match was built.

I'd like to add that's the 2nd Mania mainevent that Triple H has killed a crowd..if that was anyone else they'd have said "ok time to move on" but with H they'll say "Um uh give him a new opponent"

Ultra Peanut
04-06-2009, 03:54 PM
It doesn't get any bigger than Wrestlemania 25. WM 25 was in my home state of Texas with my childhood idols being inducted into the hall of fame.

I had wanted to make it to WM 25 for years, and when injuries cut my career short the one regret I had was that I wouldn't make the 25th anniversary of Wrestlemania-well, I made it. I never dreamed after I retired the first time that my back would get better and I would be allowed to return to wrestling.

Standing there last night in front of over 70,000 people in my home state ended a journey that was unreal to me. For a kid from Sweetwater, Texas to be able to travel all over the world and realize his dream is pretty cool.

I don't know what the future holds, never say never in life. But I have wrestled my last match. Months ago, I picked out this match. If Eddie Guerrero couldn't be here for it then my dear friend Rey was the obvious choice, and I'm proud he was.

I want to thank the WWE for a great career, for taking a chance on me and allowing me the keys to the car for a while. I will always represent the WWE wherever I go, I am proud of my 13 Ĺ years with the WWE. And, I am proud of the WWE for cleaning up a great sport to make it more healthy to everyone that is a part.

However, I have no current plans on doing anything in the future on a professional level with WWE. I don't plan on doing commentary, in fact; it hasn't even been brought up to me. I don't plan on being an on air character. I plan on starting the next chapter in my life, and closing the door on this one.NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

The only thing that has ever made Cole tolerable was JBL ripping on him.

Brock
04-06-2009, 03:57 PM
JBL quit, huh? Can't say I blame him.

keg in kc
04-06-2009, 07:17 PM
Looks like my guess about a tag team rematch on Raw was right.

And what a wacky main event they're going to have.
- WWE has just announced a big 10-man tag team match for tonight's RAW. Here's the updated line-up:

* 10 Divas Tag Team match with RAW vs. SmackDown

* John Morrison and The Miz vs. Primo and Carlito Colon in a Lumberjack Tag Title rematch

* 10 Man Tag Team match with John Cena, Ricky Steamboat, CM Punk, Rey Mysterio and Jeff Hardy vs. Edge, Big Show, Chris Jericho, Kane and Matt Hardy

'Hamas' Jenkins
04-06-2009, 07:20 PM
Looks like my guess about a tag team rematch on Raw was right.

And what a wacky main event they're going to have.

JFC. They are rapidly approaching WCW 2000 levels of dipshittery.

Ultra Peanut
04-06-2009, 07:20 PM
I don't give a fuck, more STEAMBOAT!!!!!!!

'Hamas' Jenkins
04-06-2009, 07:26 PM
I don't give a fuck, more STEAMBOAT!!!!!!!

I must say, it was nice to see someone actually target and work a body part for once.

It seems like WWE style is completely inimical to any kind of ring psychology.

unothadeal
04-06-2009, 07:45 PM
Looks like my guess about a tag team rematch on Raw was right.

And what a wacky main event they're going to have.

By "main event" they mean opening match right? RIGHT?

Mecca
04-06-2009, 08:05 PM
I must say, it was nice to see someone actually target and work a body part for once.

It seems like WWE style is completely inimical to any kind of ring psychology.

WWE style is basically just a bunch of punching and kicking with 5 signature moves and a finisher mixed in.

Reaper16
04-06-2009, 08:13 PM
WWE style is basically just a bunch of punching and kicking with 5 signature moves and a finisher mixed in.
Yup. It sucks so much, too.

Mecca
04-06-2009, 08:15 PM
Yup. It sucks so much, too.

What better way to tell the crowd who to pop for than to make everyone work exactly the same?

That's WWE style it's nearly impossible for anyone to get over on ring work due to it just like when you write everyones promos for them....

The WWE isn't about giving fans what they want, they're about pushing their favorites and telling us to like them.

keg in kc
04-06-2009, 08:19 PM
I like they way they've turned Wrestlemania into a b-show, building for the Legacy/McMahon war at Backlash.

I doubt it happens, but hopefully Miz and Morrison go over here.

'Hamas' Jenkins
04-06-2009, 08:21 PM
That opening segment just showed everything that is wrong with this company.

You've got a huge RKO chant when Orton is talking about taking out the McMahon family, and then you have VKM strutting down to set up a 3 corners of McMahon match at Backlash while he calls Orton an abject failure.

So much for Vince transitioning to an off screen role.

Instead, we'll have Shane give Orton a Van Terminator and Vince deliver some bowling shoe offense while HHH gets to pedigree all three members of Legacy.

Mecca
04-06-2009, 08:23 PM
That opening segment just showed everything that is wrong with this company.

You've got a huge RKO chant when Orton is talking about taking out the McMahon family, and then you have VKM strutting down to set up a 3 corners of McMahon match at Backlash while he calls Orton an abject failure.

So much for Vince transitioning to an off screen role.

Instead, we'll have Shane give Orton a Van Terminator and Vince deliver some bowling shoe offense while HHH gets to pedigree all three members of Legacy.

The McMahons are bigger marks for themselves than even H is for himself...he fits well in the family.

keg in kc
04-06-2009, 08:23 PM
Legacy has to go over at Backlash, or the feud ends.

keg in kc
04-06-2009, 08:26 PM
What I wonder is how long they plan to run this HHH/Orton feud. After Backlash, I think there's 4 more ppvs before SummerSlam.

Mecca
04-06-2009, 08:27 PM
Legacy has to go over at Backlash, or the feud ends.

I will be utterly stunned if Orton or legacy go over, the story of Ortons career is he has been built up to be made to look like a loser by Triple H.

Triple H is good at that...he let Booker and RVD basically be built up to be his bitch time and time again aswell as Jericho.

keg in kc
04-06-2009, 08:29 PM
Legacy doesn't have to "win" the match to get put over. Some kind of banana peel ending after Legacy gets demolished for 20 minutes and then pins shane or vince (assuming vince doesn't get punted tonight - the 6-man match might be a swerve). The feud continues, the McMahons stay on the air, and Legacy still looks like pussies. All the bases covered.

Mecca
04-06-2009, 08:29 PM
Ugh, fuck the Colons.

God the WWE is really pissing me off.

keg in kc
04-06-2009, 08:31 PM
And the lame ass fucking colons go over.

Miz and Morrison get broken up on the draft show.

Mecca
04-06-2009, 08:33 PM
Why do the Colons get put over?

Carlito is a little bitch that has threatened to quit like 10 times he's always whining and wrestles like he could give 2 shits, yet he gets to win matches?

'Hamas' Jenkins
04-06-2009, 08:33 PM
I still can't believe how stupid Vince was in setting up this WM. Rather than just doing what is logical, he had to try and swerve the IWC with the setup.

Cena-Orton is a perfect match for WM 25. They work well together and they should be considered the future of the company. 25 should have signifcance just for that, just like X was a turning point.

Edge-HHH would have been good from a workrate perspective, as Edge is one of the few guys who can carry HHH's broke dick ass to a watchable match without gimmicks galore.

Christ, now we have a reverse hype of 12 Rounds?

keg in kc
04-06-2009, 08:33 PM
I wish they'd drop about 15 divas and focus on their wrestling, if they're going to force me to watch women do this bullshit.

'Hamas' Jenkins
04-06-2009, 08:34 PM
That Burger King commercial just made up for the first 30 mins of Raw.

BryanBusby
04-06-2009, 08:35 PM
Why do the Colons get put over?

Carlito is a little bitch that has threatened to quit like 10 times he's always whining and wrestles like he could give 2 shits, yet he gets to win matches?

I'd imagine they want to push Morrison as a single and push the Miz as a cook at Waffle House.

'Hamas' Jenkins
04-06-2009, 08:36 PM
I wish they'd drop about 15 divas and focus on their wrestling, if they're going to force me to watch women do this bullshit.

The only divas that really deserve a roster spot are Mickie, Beth, and Nattie.

If you want to keep some eye candy, then I guess give a spot to Maryse, Kelly Kelly, and Katie Lea, as they can kind of work (KL can definitely go).

Mecca
04-06-2009, 08:37 PM
I still can't believe how stupid Vince was in setting up this WM. Rather than just doing what is logical, he had to try and swerve the IWC with the setup.

Cena-Orton is a perfect match for WM 25. They work well together and they should be considered the future of the company. 25 should have signifcance just for that, just like X was a turning point.

Edge-HHH would have been good from a workrate perspective, as Edge is one of the few guys who can carry HHH's broke dick ass to a watchable match without gimmicks galore.

Christ, now we have a reverse hype of 12 Rounds?

H not mainevent mania, are you crazy?

This guy if he hadn't gotten injured would likely have mainevented something like 8 Mania's in a row.

keg in kc
04-06-2009, 08:37 PM
I'd imagine they want to push Morrison as a singleHopefully, although there's a lot of whispers out there that he can't be heel enough, that they think he's too goofy, personality-wise. Like a santino that can actually wrestle.

keg in kc
04-06-2009, 08:38 PM
The only divas that really deserve a roster spot are Mickie, Beth, and Nattie.

If you want to keep some eye candy, then I guess give a spot to Maryse, Kelly Kelly, and Katie Lea, as they can kind of work (KL can definitely go).Gail Kim.

keg in kc
04-06-2009, 08:39 PM
You know what would have been great? Having the chicks come out unannounced during the Kid Rock mention and just start the match.

Mecca
04-06-2009, 08:39 PM
The problem is, womens wrestling will never be taken seriously on a national level in this country, that's why the WWE books it this way.

'Hamas' Jenkins
04-06-2009, 08:39 PM
Gail Kim.

Forgot she was back.

keg in kc
04-06-2009, 08:40 PM
The problem is, womens wrestling will never be taken seriously on a national level in this country, that's why the WWE books it this way.Then have them valet. I just want these brutal matches to stop, one way or the other.

unothadeal
04-06-2009, 08:41 PM
Natalya is the son of Jim Neidhart? Chyna must be the mom.

keg in kc
04-06-2009, 08:42 PM
I wonder what Botchlina will fuck up tonight.

Reaper16
04-06-2009, 08:42 PM
The only divas that really deserve a roster spot are Mickie, Beth, and Nattie.

Melina!

keg in kc
04-06-2009, 08:42 PM
ROFL

"The son of the legendary -- I should say the daughter of the legendary Jim the Anvil Neidhardt"

'Hamas' Jenkins
04-06-2009, 08:43 PM
Melina!

No.


I love the fact that they are finally teasing the idea of Shane turning 5 weeks late. :shake:

Mecca
04-06-2009, 08:43 PM
Then have them valet. I just want these brutal matches to stop, one way or the other.

They don't think anyone should valet anymore just like no one has a manager now. Back in the day if you couldn't talk but had talent or something they'd just give you a manager or a chick that could talk, now they just write you off.

keg in kc
04-06-2009, 08:43 PM
So I wonder who's doing the color on Smackdown tomorrow. The teacher? Hopefully not, for his sake.

I wonder who the announcers will be after the draft's over.

Reaper16
04-06-2009, 08:44 PM
No.
Yes.

keg in kc
04-06-2009, 08:44 PM
They don't think anyone should valet anymore just like no one has a manager now. Back in the day if you couldn't talk but had talent or something they'd just give you a manager or a chick that could talk, now they just write you off.Ironically they've been using Natalya, probably the best women's worker, as a valet on ECW.

unothadeal
04-06-2009, 08:45 PM
Having Shane smell HHH's clothes after he left would have been a great swerve.

keg in kc
04-06-2009, 08:47 PM
I love the way they made the 10-man tag match the mid-main so that Vince can wrestle in the main.

Mecca
04-06-2009, 08:47 PM
Ironically they've been using Natalya, probably the best women's worker, as a valet on ECW.

The honest truth comes down to 1 line.

If you are watching the WWE for wrestling you should probably stop.

chiefs1111
04-06-2009, 08:48 PM
The honest truth comes down to 1 line.

If you are watching the WWE for wrestling you should probably stop.

Yup

Mecca
04-06-2009, 08:48 PM
I love the way they made the 10-man tag match the mid-main so that Vince can wrestle in the main.

How many times have I talked about how the McMahons love to stroke themselves on TV?

We're talking about guys who think it's perfectly acceptable to be booked to hang with top wrestlers in the company.

keg in kc
04-06-2009, 08:49 PM
The honest truth comes down to 1 line.

If you are watching the WWE for wrestling you should probably stop.It's the women's matches that bug me. They're a total waste of time. I'm fine with the rest of the product. Well, mostly.

keg in kc
04-06-2009, 08:50 PM
How many times have I talked about how the McMahons love to stroke themselves on TV?Thank god Vince never thought of that idea during the attitude era.

Mecca
04-06-2009, 08:51 PM
I think they book womens matches to give the hormonal kids that watch something to jackoff to.

keg in kc
04-06-2009, 08:51 PM
I can't imagine how much Jeff Hardy's ass must hurt after that ladder spot before the Twist of Fate last night,

chiefs1111
04-06-2009, 08:52 PM
here comes The Dragon

Mecca
04-06-2009, 08:52 PM
I can't imagine how much Jeff Hardy's ass must hurt after that ladder spot before the Twist of Fate last night,

I thought you were gonna go in a different direction with that...

unothadeal
04-06-2009, 08:52 PM
I think they book womens matches to give the hormonal kids that watch something to jackoff to.

Ahhhh, the good 'ol days

keg in kc
04-06-2009, 08:54 PM
Cena left the clone army at home tonight, I see.

Mecca
04-06-2009, 08:54 PM
Ahhhh, the good 'ol days

I wouldn't have had to do that if I had internet access back in those days.

keg in kc
04-06-2009, 08:55 PM
I kind of hoped they wouldn't ever show that punch from Rourke to Jericho again. Just act like it didn't happen.

Wait, Kane's a heel now? Is he going to stalk Punk?

unothadeal
04-06-2009, 08:55 PM
I thought Edge was on break.

Mecca
04-06-2009, 08:56 PM
All of these guys are less important than Vince McMahon wrestling.

keg in kc
04-06-2009, 08:57 PM
All of these guys are less important than Vince McMahon wrestling.Well, it is a continuation of the WM main event program.

unothadeal
04-06-2009, 08:57 PM
Wait, Kane's a heel now? Is he going to stalk Punk?

He'll probably be the first eliminated tonight if it's an elimination match

chiefs1111
04-06-2009, 08:57 PM
What a horrible looking movie

unothadeal
04-06-2009, 09:01 PM
Wait, Kane's a heel now? Is he going to stalk Punk?

Pretty sure I've already said this on here but they could've brought back classic Kane when they had the "fake Kane" feud. "Fake Kane" is actually "real Kane" and Glen Jacobs is actually "fake Kane". Have masked Kane beat Jacobs and Bob's your Vila, everyone's happy.

dirk digler
04-06-2009, 09:04 PM
How many times have I talked about how the McMahons love to stroke themselves on TV?

We're talking about guys who think it's perfectly acceptable to be booked to hang with top wrestlers in the company.

That is what happens when you own the company and have no competition.

Of course Vince vs Austin really made the WWE huge again

BryanBusby
04-06-2009, 09:08 PM
Damn, Steamboat can still put on a show.

This crowd is really on fire tonight.

keg in kc
04-06-2009, 09:08 PM
At least they're giving the match time.

Mecca
04-06-2009, 09:11 PM
That is what happens when you own the company and have no competition.

Of course Vince vs Austin really made the WWE huge again

Back then the concept of Vince or Shane being caught in the ring or any situation with a wrestler meant they were going to get their ass kicked, as it should..

Today they actually hang with the wrestlers.

chiefs1111
04-06-2009, 09:11 PM
Steamboat still moves around well for an old guy

keg in kc
04-06-2009, 09:12 PM
Back then the concept of Vince or Shane being caught in the ring or any situation with a wrestler meant they were going to get their ass kicked, as it should..

Today they actually hang with the wrestlers.What, you mean a promoter pushing 70 shouldn't be able to compete with a wrestler 35 years younger than he is?

Mecca
04-06-2009, 09:13 PM
What, you mean a promoter pushing 70 shouldn't be able to compete with a wrestler 35 years younger than he is?

I think Shanes 'I watch MMA' offense is one of the funniest things ever.

dirk digler
04-06-2009, 09:14 PM
Back then the concept of Vince or Shane being caught in the ring or any situation with a wrestler meant they were going to get their ass kicked, as it should..

Today they actually hang with the wrestlers.

All those roids Vince has taken he is still pretty buff. :)

chiefs1111
04-06-2009, 09:14 PM
a double 619

Mecca
04-06-2009, 09:16 PM
All those roids Vince has taken he is still pretty buff. :)

Remember when Vince wrestled Stone Cold, the entire match was Austin just beating the fuck out of him..Xpac beat the fuck out of Shane if you recall..

Today when Vince or Shane get in the ring they are booked like they should be able to hang competitively it's dumb.

chiefs1111
04-06-2009, 09:18 PM
I really hope there will be some major shakes ups with the draft next week

unothadeal
04-06-2009, 09:18 PM
Remember when Vince wrestled Stone Cold, the entire match was Austin just beating the **** out of him..Xpac beat the **** out of Shane if you recall..

Today when Vince or Shane get in the ring they are booked like they should be able to hang competitively it's dumb.

That's because they're wily veterans.

BryanBusby
04-06-2009, 09:19 PM
I really hope there will be some major shakes ups with the draft next week

Don't you worry! I'm sure Trips will be boring the crowd with 30 minute promos soon enough!

dirk digler
04-06-2009, 09:19 PM
Remember when Vince wrestled Stone Cold, the entire match was Austin just beating the fuck out of him..Xpac beat the fuck out of Shane if you recall..

Today when Vince or Shane get in the ring they are booked like they should be able to hang competitively it's dumb.

True but Austin was a bad ass but I remember Shane winning some matches or competing back then as well.

chiefs1111
04-06-2009, 09:19 PM
Remember when Vince wrestled Stone Cold, the entire match was Austin just beating the fuck out of him..Xpac beat the fuck out of Shane if you recall..

Today when Vince or Shane get in the ring they are booked like they should be able to hang competitively it's dumb.

Yeah it's just nowhere near as entertaining.. Watching Stone Cold beat the crap out of Vince was always great too see

keg in kc
04-06-2009, 09:19 PM
God I hope we aren't about to see Rey Rey pushed to the moon again.

Mecca
04-06-2009, 09:20 PM
When Orton was being built to Mania, Shane should have not been able to hang with him he should have just been killed.

Mecca
04-06-2009, 09:21 PM
Yeah it's just nowhere near as entertaining.. Watching Stone Cold beat the crap out of Vince was always great too see

Stone Cold made Vince piss his pants...today Vince would get up strut around and beat the guy up.

chiefs1111
04-06-2009, 09:21 PM
Oh no not Vikki

keg in kc
04-06-2009, 09:22 PM
They booked the entire heel stable that way, not just Orton. I mean, I don't know why anybody would think the 6-man tag will be competitive, since Legacy can't handle any single McMahon with a 3-on-1 advantage.

dirk digler
04-06-2009, 09:23 PM
When Orton was being built to Mania, Shane should have not been able to hang with him he should have just been killed.

well orton is a pussy :D

chiefs1111
04-06-2009, 09:23 PM
Stone Cold made Vince piss his pants...today Vince would get up strut around and beat the guy up.

I really just wish Vince would just stay behind the scenes

dirk digler
04-06-2009, 09:23 PM
God I hate Vicki. why is this annoying bitch on TV

keg in kc
04-06-2009, 09:24 PM
why is this annoying bitch on TVBecause of this:God I hate Vicki.She has more heat than just about anyone.

I just hope the whole marriage bullshit ends.

chiefs1111
04-06-2009, 09:24 PM
Damn she has an annoying voice

Mecca
04-06-2009, 09:25 PM
Excuse me.

chiefs1111
04-06-2009, 09:25 PM
Because of this:She has more heat than just about anyone.

I just hope the whole marriage bullshit ends.

Yes that would be great,it's really getting old

chiefs1111
04-06-2009, 09:26 PM
Excuse me.

:banghead::banghead:

keg in kc
04-06-2009, 09:26 PM
That's one fucked-up stipulation, the title changing hands like that in a 6-man tag.

dirk digler
04-06-2009, 09:26 PM
Because of this:She has more heat than just about anyone.

I just hope the whole marriage bullshit ends.

Why do they always have a heel as a GM? For once maybe they should try a face as GM to go up against the top heel.

unothadeal
04-06-2009, 09:26 PM
Randy Oron.

dirk digler
04-06-2009, 09:26 PM
That's one fucked-up stipulation, the title changing hands like that in a 6-man tag.

So basically one of the McMahon's will lose since Triple H won't lose cleanly?

chiefs1111
04-06-2009, 09:27 PM
Oh yeah i was watching ESPN and seen a commercial for that show ESPN 360, I guess there is going to be an interview with VInce on there.

keg in kc
04-06-2009, 09:27 PM
Why do they always have a heel as a GM? For once maybe they should try a face as GM to go up against the top heel.They've done that. Teddy Long's worked as a face. Mick Foley worked as a face.

BryanBusby
04-06-2009, 09:27 PM
That's one ****ed-up stipulation, the title changing hands like that in a 6-man tag.

It's like KOTR 2000 allover again. Watch Orton pin either Vince or Shane.

Mecca
04-06-2009, 09:27 PM
Why do they always have a heel as a GM? For once maybe they should try a face as GM to go up against the top heel.

That's just booking 101 heel GM makes the face overcome the odds.

dirk digler
04-06-2009, 09:28 PM
They've done that. Teddy Long's worked as a face. Mick Foley worked as a face.

On Raw? I guess I don't remember.

keg in kc
04-06-2009, 09:28 PM
So basically one of the McMahon's will lose since Triple H won't lose cleanly?Apparently not, she just announced it's Last Man Standing. I don't see how you could possibly have anybody but Orton/HHH be the last two...

Well, that'll be a match I don't think I've seen before. That's about all I can say for it.

Mecca
04-06-2009, 09:29 PM
So basically one of the McMahon's will lose since Triple H won't lose cleanly?

Triple H lose clean....that's about as likely as winning the lottery.

keg in kc
04-06-2009, 09:29 PM
On Raw? I guess I don't remember.Foley did it on Raw. Teddy Long on Smackdown and ECW.

I can't remember specific feuds, I'd have to look it up to refresh my memory, but it's been done.

unothadeal
04-06-2009, 09:30 PM
Apparently not, she just announced it's Last Man Standing. I don't see how you could possibly have anybody but Orton/HHH be the last two...

Well, that'll be a match I don't think I've seen before. That's about all I can say for it.

I thought that was the Edge/Cena match.

dirk digler
04-06-2009, 09:30 PM
Apparently not, she just announced it's Last Man Standing. I don't see how you could possibly have anybody but Orton/HHH be the last two...

Well, that'll be a match I don't think I've seen before. That's about all I can say for it.

I think she was talking about Edge vs Cena as Last Man Standing

keg in kc
04-06-2009, 09:30 PM
I think she was talking about Edge vs Cena as Last Man StandingOkay, that makes more sense.

I was only half-listening, I should've rewound it.

dirk digler
04-06-2009, 09:31 PM
That's just booking 101 heel GM makes the face overcome the odds.

They should change it up and make the GM fuck royally with the heel.

keg in kc
04-06-2009, 09:33 PM
Anyway, yeah, that's what I was talking about with Mecca earlier. This is exactly the kind of match that allows Legacy to go over without hurting the McLevesques.

They really should do a slow build with this and resolve it at summerslam with Orton going over, but they don't do that anymore. It probably ends with HHH going over at Judgement Day.

chiefs1111
04-06-2009, 09:33 PM
They should change it up and make the GM fuck royally with the heel.

Yeah that would be a nice change

dirk digler
04-06-2009, 09:35 PM
I still get a chuckle out of Austin beating McMahon with a bed pan

chiefs1111
04-06-2009, 09:36 PM
oh no

keg in kc
04-06-2009, 09:36 PM
Santina!

BryanBusby
04-06-2009, 09:36 PM
Hahaha oh god they gave Santina Billy and Chucks theme music

dirk digler
04-06-2009, 09:37 PM
Anyway, yeah, that's what I was talking about with Mecca earlier. This is exactly the kind of match that allows Legacy to go over without hurting the McLevesques.

They really should do a slow build with this and resolve it at summerslam with Orton going over, but they don't do that anymore. It probably ends with HHH going over at Judgement Day.

Good point Keg. I have a feeling one of the McMahon's lose and maybe do a swerve and cost Triple H the championship

keg in kc
04-06-2009, 09:38 PM
Good point Keg. I have a feeling one of the McMahon's lose and maybe do a swerve and cost Triple H the championshipI didn't think Shane was really being heel-ish tonight if you know what I mean. It didn't read like he was teasing a turn.

But who knows. God knows what's going to happen in 20 minutes, much less 3 weeks.

keg in kc
04-06-2009, 09:39 PM
ROFL

Santina meeting Beth is hilarious.

chiefs1111
04-06-2009, 09:39 PM
lol Beth is going to lay the smack down

keg in kc
04-06-2009, 09:40 PM
lmao at king spitting into the mic when he said he's more of a woman than beth

BryanBusby
04-06-2009, 09:41 PM
This segment alone is going to save Raw.

Mecca
04-06-2009, 09:41 PM
I bet if you guys saw Beth Phoenix husband you'd just be like what in the fuck?

keg in kc
04-06-2009, 09:41 PM
I bet if you guys saw Beth Phoenix husband you'd just be like what in the ****?Who is her husband?

Mecca
04-06-2009, 09:42 PM
Who is her husband?

He's an indy wrestler who worked in OVW for awhile he's basically a pudgy dork...let me find a picture.

keg in kc
04-06-2009, 09:43 PM
He's an indy wrestler who worked in OVW for awhile he's basically a pudgy dork...let me find a picture.http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/31/N809105462_3749357_2490.jpg

dirk digler
04-06-2009, 09:43 PM
Santina was good when he was making fun of people now he is just a parody

keg in kc
04-06-2009, 09:45 PM
lmao at the melina-like screams.

keg in kc
04-06-2009, 09:45 PM
ROFL what an ending

BryanBusby
04-06-2009, 09:47 PM
Somewhere Russo is writing this idea down as a legitimate idea for a storyline.

unothadeal
04-06-2009, 09:48 PM
As long as they don't take this cross dressing too far Santino can still be the best entertainer they have. I mean like, Billy and Chuck too far.

Mecca
04-06-2009, 09:48 PM
Very good..see why I said, that's her husband?

keg in kc
04-06-2009, 09:51 PM
And here we go.

dirk digler
04-06-2009, 09:51 PM
The one thing I am surprised about is that they didn't make a big deal about the sledgehammer last night. I figured they would strip Triple H or make him defend it tonight