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58kcfan89
09-13-2011, 04:54 PM
Alright, so I just watched Raw. Since the first 95 minutes were God-awful, I'm gunna stick to the HHH-Punk thing...

Loved the segment, and I'm glad the two haven't really had much physical interaction, other than a few shoves & the mic to the face. I'm not going to order NoC because I'm poor, but I'll be watching nonetheless, just because of this match. Seems fairly obvious that they're going to keep this feud going for awhile, and I don't think we've seen the end of Nash or Funkman, but as was mentioned earlier, they NEED to establish that face/heel line between Punk & Trips this weekend.

I would have loved the mic-smash if Punk was already mega-over as a face and HHH was the heel, or the other way around. But since he's in that tweener position (depending on the crowd), I don't think it went over as big as it could have (although it could be to set up a big swerve or something on Sunday). Guess I should be thankful they didn't do it in Wichita, cause he wouldn't have gotten a reaction except for the one fat guy in the cheap seats marking the fuck out (me)...


Anyway, was it just me, or did they announce about 4 matches for Sunday in like 3 minutes last night? Love the fact that they clearly don't give a shit about anything except Cena, Orton & HHH/Punk....

BryanBusby
09-14-2011, 01:23 PM
Matt Hardy is fat and dumb, and also got arrested again for DUI

keg in kc
09-16-2011, 11:50 AM
Claudio Castagnoli is now Antonio Cesaro.

Ultra Peanut
09-16-2011, 02:41 PM
It could be so much worse, and the name works pretty well to convey his Europeatude.

Also, someone linked a Dean Ambrose promo and that was interesting enough to make me decide to watch some of his FCW matches. He's so fascinating, and I love how much Regal marks out when he debuts. How crazy, complimenting your talent and making them sound awesome (though it doesn't hurt when they actually are compelling in their own right).

Now I want a JR/Regal team on Raw. It's sad to want things that will never happen.

p.s. from the 'lol please no you idiots' files:

http://i.imgur.com/dTCkG.jpg

58kcfan89
09-16-2011, 03:29 PM
http://i.imgur.com/dTCkG.jpg

:facepalm::Lin:
I have a feeling this feud is going to royally suck.


As for the Castignoli name change, why do they always feel the need to change a guy's name (unless it's a copyright thing) when they come to WWE? Makes you wonder how a guy with a name like CM Punk was able to keep it this whole time...

keg in kc
09-16-2011, 03:37 PM
:facepalm::Lin:
I have a feeling this feud is going to royally suck.


As for the Castignoli name change, why do they always feel the need to change a guy's name (unless it's a copyright thing) when they come to WWE? Makes you wonder how a guy with a name like CM Punk was able to keep it this whole time...It's a copyright thing.

keg in kc
09-16-2011, 06:39 PM
Alvarez/Meltzer says the match is Rock captaining Cena, Punk & Sheamus against Del Rio, Miz, Truth and Heel to be Named Later. Rock live on Raw at least twice leading into the show.

Good grief.

They're trying so hard to make people (with balls and over 5) root for Cena. It ain't gonna work. People in Madison Square Garden are going to shit all over this match, and Cena's going to get booed out of the building.

keg in kc
09-16-2011, 07:40 PM
Check that, now WWE.com is saying it will be a traditional 5-on-5 survivor series match.

NJChiefsFan
09-17-2011, 08:18 PM
Alvarez/Meltzer says the match is Rock captaining Cena, Punk & Sheamus against Del Rio, Miz, Truth and Heel to be Named Later. Rock live on Raw at least twice leading into the show.

Good grief.

They're trying so hard to make people (with balls and over 5) root for Cena. It ain't gonna work. People in Madison Square Garden are going to shit all over this match, and Cena's going to get booed out of the building.

You can say that again. My friends and I got half the arena going nuts during that Hell in a Cell 2 years ago in Newark and we will do it again if need be. Good thing is, it won't be, because plenty will be doing it without our help. You could put him with any 4 human beings that ever lived, and he is still going to get run out of that arena.

58kcfan89
09-18-2011, 06:31 PM
http://www.firstrowsports.tv/watch/81317/1/watch-wwe-night-of-champions.html

keg in kc
09-18-2011, 06:56 PM
I nearly forgot there was a 3-hour raw you have to pay for tonight. I mean ppv.

keg in kc
09-18-2011, 07:02 PM
Holy jesus. Hell in a Cell is in two weeks.

Ultra Peanut
09-18-2011, 07:10 PM
Tonight, I'm a Henry mark.

58kcfan89
09-18-2011, 07:20 PM
I nearly forgot there was a 3-hour raw you have to pay for tonight. I mean ppv.

I've got it playing on the computer in the background with the Falcons-Eagles game on TV. Only watching for Punk-HHH. I really couldn't care less about the rest of this card.

58kcfan89
09-18-2011, 07:23 PM
Oh.


My.


God.


Mark Henry just beat Orton. For the World Title. Clean.

Wow.

Ultra Peanut
09-18-2011, 07:26 PM
MIZARKING OUT

Ultra Peanut
09-18-2011, 07:39 PM
FUCK YOU KELLY KELLY. FUCK YOU DOUBLE DOUBLE E.

BryanBusby
09-18-2011, 07:39 PM
Seriously? Kelly Kelly is fucking terrible.

Ultra Peanut
09-18-2011, 07:45 PM
On one hand, yay Punk's main eventing. On the other, it's a really stupid angle and also a non-title match is main eventing "Night of Champions," lol.

Mr. Arrowhead
09-18-2011, 08:09 PM
LMAO Cena wins the title again

Ultra Peanut
09-18-2011, 08:09 PM
Alberto Del Beltpillow. :(

idiot booking for babies imo tbh

BryanBusby
09-18-2011, 08:09 PM
HURR CENA OVERCAME DA ODDS HURR

58kcfan89
09-18-2011, 08:11 PM
Who booked this crap?

Ultra Peanut
09-18-2011, 08:12 PM
This is going to be so terrible I'll wish I was watching a Chiefs game instead.

chuxtrux
09-18-2011, 08:17 PM
Anybody have a live stream link? The other one went out.

Mr. Arrowhead
09-18-2011, 08:36 PM
what happened to Michael Cole?

BryanBusby
09-18-2011, 08:37 PM
Hell yeah Miz-Truth run in

Ultra Peanut
09-18-2011, 08:38 PM
I do not know how to respond to this.

BryanBusby
09-18-2011, 08:42 PM
what in the fuck is this mess

Ultra Peanut
09-18-2011, 08:42 PM
uh, okay, i was ready to be angry but punk just kicked out of a pedigree so

i'm back to being weirded out.

oh hey, there's nash. shocker. Funkhauser World Order confirmed.

58kcfan89
09-18-2011, 08:44 PM
W.

T.

Fuck?

Who booked this crap?

Ultra Peanut
09-18-2011, 08:45 PM
Fucking horrible.

W.

T.

Fuck?

Who booked this crap?
http://i.imgur.com/fnkQU.jpg

BryanBusby
09-18-2011, 08:46 PM
Ah yes, it's 2003 allover again

keg in kc
09-18-2011, 08:46 PM
HHH's fucking ego.

keg in kc
09-18-2011, 08:47 PM
I can't even begin to describe how much I hate that fucking bullshit.

Ultra Peanut
09-18-2011, 08:48 PM
http://i.imgur.com/hWU5N.gif

58kcfan89
09-18-2011, 08:49 PM
Fucking horrible.


http://i.imgur.com/fnkQU.jpg

Was just about to post the Russo pic.

Goddamn, that was awful. Raw better be epic (it won't).

keg in kc
09-18-2011, 08:49 PM
I'm not even watching Raw. It's the premieres for both Castle and Hawaii 5-0 at 9 tomorrow night. **** the WWE.

Mr. Arrowhead
09-18-2011, 08:50 PM
ok my head hurts after watching that mess

BryanBusby
09-18-2011, 08:51 PM
I'm not sure if that ending or the Chiefs were a bigger disaster today.

Ultra Peanut
09-18-2011, 08:53 PM
Best description for those who didn't see it: "This is some WCW vs. nWo Revenge 4-player shit right here."

keg in kc
09-18-2011, 08:54 PM
I'm not sure if that ending or the Chiefs were a bigger disaster today.The Chiefs in a landslide, but that last 10 minutes ruined what was a pretty good brawl up to that point. That was swerve after swerve to put one over on the internet smarks and then a big middle finger to all of us with the pin at the end.

John Cena and HHH winning on the same night. And, hell, Kelly Kelly for that matter. The only redeeming thing about that show was the end of the Henry/Orton match (which was about as boring as humanly possible up to that point) and his speech afterward.

Why in the fuck would anybody possibly give a shit about Hell in a Cell after that?

Ultra Peanut
09-18-2011, 09:00 PM
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BryanBusby
09-18-2011, 09:01 PM
http://i.imgur.com/2VHos.gifhttp://i.imgur.com/2VHos.gifhttp://i.imgur.com/2VHos.gif
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http://i.imgur.com/2VHos.gifhttp://i.imgur.com/2VHos.gifhttp://i.imgur.com/2VHos.gif

This is the most appropriate post for a night like this.

keg in kc
09-18-2011, 09:02 PM
Just saw a good question raised elsewhere: why in the fuck did Truth interfere with Punk pinning HHH 5 minutes after he draped Punk's arm across HHH.

LMAO

Ultra Peanut
09-18-2011, 09:04 PM
This is the most appropriate post for a night like this.I stole it from Something Awful. They also changed the thread title to "WCW Night of Champions 2011."

Reaper16
09-18-2011, 09:08 PM
So after weeks of buildup, WWE chooses stasis? That finish moved the angle absolute nowhere. No forward progress at all. The teased finish with Miz and R-Truth would have been better. Now you just have Punk believing that Nash and HHH are still in-on it together, which is precisely where we were after SummerSlam. Stasis sucks.

Ultra Peanut
09-18-2011, 09:09 PM
I'm not even shocked they decided to tread water on the angle, since there's another PPV in TWO WEEKS (however idiotic that is in the first place), but to do it in such spectacularly dumb fashion was genuinely impressive.

And oh my god, WWE, way to fucking make your young potential stars look awesome.

keg in kc
09-18-2011, 09:11 PM
So after weeks of buildup, WWE chooses stasis? That finish moved the angle absolute nowhere. No forward progress at all. The teased finish with Miz and R-Truth would have been better. Now you just have Punk believing that Nash and HHH are still in-on it together, which is precisely where we were after SummerSlam. Stasis sucks.

I'm not even shocked they decided to tread water on the angle, since there's another PPV in TWO WEEKS (however idiotic that is in the first place), but to do it in such spectacularly dumb fashion was genuinely impressive.

And oh my god, WWE, way to ****ing make your young potential stars look awesome.And they're going to do it again at Hell in a Cell and then THREE WEEKS AFTER THAT at Vengeance, because this has to somehow set up Survivor Series.

It's exactly what I called it earlier: a 3-hour raw that (a few) people pay for.

Ultra Peanut
09-18-2011, 09:13 PM
I can't believe I started watching wrestling again to see where the Punk angle was going to go. Will I ever learn?

keg in kc
09-18-2011, 09:17 PM
http://edge.ebaumsworld.com/mediaFiles/picture/342756/80886210.jpg

big nasty kcnut
09-18-2011, 09:18 PM
I think this will happen miz and truth and nash and del rio will be on one team cm punk nipple h and cena and the rock for the survivor series and triple h vs. cm punk in hell in the cell.

big nasty kcnut
09-18-2011, 09:19 PM
ok here a question who would you rather hook up with serena or beth phoenix

keg in kc
09-18-2011, 09:20 PM
I'd be afraid Beth Pheonix would break me.

big nasty kcnut
09-18-2011, 09:24 PM
beth is scary strong serena got those straight edge boobies.

Ultra Peanut
09-18-2011, 09:28 PM
I want to sign up for f4w again just to read the board~ and hear all of Bryan's ranting.

... anyone wanna send me some illicit mp3s this week?

keg in kc
09-18-2011, 09:29 PM
I want to sign up for f4w again just to read the board~ and hear all of Bryan's ranting this week.You're not missing anything on the board.

Ultra Peanut
09-18-2011, 09:30 PM
Wrestling fans in pain is forever my siren call.

keg in kc
09-19-2011, 01:07 PM
JFC.

The Muppets come to Raw on Halloween night

September 19, 2011

To celebrate their first theatrical release in more than a decade – Disney’s "The Muppets," opening this Thanksgiving – the Muppets will step into the ring on the Oct. 31 WWE Raw SuperShow to mix it up with the Superstars in Atlanta.

In the new film, "The Muppets," the crew is on a mission to save the Muppet Theater from demolition. (OFFICIAL TRAILER) But before that, they'll have to save themselves from our Superstars!

What will happen when Kermit the Frog meets The Viper? Will the Divas make Miss Piggy flip with jealousy? Will Beaker be confused for Sheamus? On Halloween, it's time to play the music, it's time to light the lights, because the Muppets are about to get Raw!

BigCatDaddy
09-19-2011, 01:10 PM
JFC.

I'm more of a Muppet Baby fan myself.

58kcfan89
09-19-2011, 01:37 PM
JFC.

Punk & HHH vs. Gonzo & Fozzy.

Punk gives a GTS to Gonzo, HHH pedigrees Fozzy. Cena runs in & saves the day. Raw goes off the air...

BigCatDaddy
09-19-2011, 01:39 PM
Punk & HHH vs. Gonzo & Fozzy.

Punk gives a GTS to Gonzo, HHH pedigrees Fozzy. Cena runs in & saves the day. Raw goes off the air...

Ms Piggy dry humps Cena's leg and Kermit looks on from the ramp heart broken. Cena tells Kermit he loves Piggy, but like a sister.

4th and Long
09-19-2011, 01:58 PM
What will happen when Kermit the Frog meets The Viper? Will the Divas make Miss Piggy flip with jealousy? Will Beaker be confused for Sheamus? On Halloween, it's time to play the music, it's time to light the lights, because the Muppets are about to get Raw!
Since they are stuffed puppets on sticks, they arent going to be in the ring. All backstage crap. Unless the 2 old grumpy muppet bastards in the balcony show up and start talking trash on Cena, it'll be a worthless RAW.

58kcfan89
09-19-2011, 02:00 PM
Since they are stuffed puppets on sticks, they arent going to be in the ring. All backstage crap. Unless the 2 old grumpy muppet bastards in the balcony show up and start talking trash on Cena, it'll be a worthless RAW.

I sense a Straight Edge Society reboot...

Ratings!

Renegade
09-19-2011, 03:41 PM
Muppets on RAW will still be more entertaining than the Halloween raping the Chiefs will receive.

keg in kc
09-19-2011, 05:41 PM
--C.M. Punk was asked today on Ariel Helwani's show who he was facing at WrestleMania and said, "I don't even know who I'm facing tonight because it's already changed about 152 times in the last hour."

BryanBusby
09-19-2011, 05:46 PM
--C.M. Punk was asked today on Ariel Helwani's show who he was facing at WrestleMania and said, "I don't even know who I'm facing tonight because it's already changed about 152 times in the last hour."

Sounds about right. It was getting obvious they are back to crash booking with how the Punk/Nash/HHH feud OVERCAME DA ODDS and managed to get more weird by the Raw.

Reaper16
09-19-2011, 07:07 PM
This Cleveland crowd is stupid. Punk says that Quickenloans Arena hasn't been kind to him (in that he's had bad luck there) and the crowd thinks that Punk is dissing the crowd.

Ultra Peanut
09-19-2011, 07:09 PM
Hahaha oh man, they're either gonna re-merge this shit or they're going to shunt Punk off to the fringe of the angle.

Ultra Peanut
09-19-2011, 07:11 PM
This is such a delicious clusterfuck though, oh my god.

ahahhaha nice line read there, Trips. I can't wait for a gif of Punk's "Yay, I'm not fired!" pose.

Ultra Peanut
09-19-2011, 07:38 PM
Chicks and ducks and geese better scurry

BryanBusby
09-19-2011, 07:44 PM
Yesss Ryder chants and Ryder on my TV tonight yessssssssssss

Ultra Peanut
09-19-2011, 07:45 PM
... holy shit?

I love Hugh Jackman. That was/is adorable.

Ultra Peanut
09-19-2011, 07:52 PM
Maybe I'm just way too high for my own good, but this Raw has been entertaining since Del Rio destroyed Morrison.

This Sin Cara stuff is so goofy and reminds me of Glacier/Mortis/Wrath/JAMES MITCHELL. By which I mean to say it OWNS.

BryanBusby
09-19-2011, 07:56 PM
IT'S A CONSPIRACY

E: Henry about to kill JR

Al Bundy
09-19-2011, 08:03 PM
Holy crap, the Cleveland crowd sucks. Or Mark Henry just doesn't evoke any emotions from the fans.

Ultra Peanut
09-19-2011, 08:03 PM
this crowd can fucking die

Mr_Tomahawk
09-19-2011, 08:07 PM
Haven't watched more than a minute of the show...but this is the most comments I have seen in this thread pertaining to a particular crowd...


What is the crowd 'doing'?

Reaper16
09-19-2011, 08:29 PM
Hugh Jackman is awesome.

Also, RAW live in Kansas City next week!

BryanBusby
09-19-2011, 08:29 PM
Woo Woo Woo

Ultra Peanut
09-19-2011, 08:30 PM
ADORABLE ADORABLE ADORABLE

Hugh Jackman for permanent Raw Guest Star

Ultra Peanut
09-19-2011, 08:37 PM
LISTEN TO THAT YOU FUCKERS, EVEN THIS HORRIBLE CROWD LOVED PUNK/CENA

WHY ARE YOU SO STUPID

BryanBusby
09-19-2011, 08:41 PM
haha Miz shouting REMIX owned

Nice, I'm anxiously waiting for Miz/Truth segments involving them filing for unemployment

Reaper16
09-19-2011, 09:05 PM
wut

Mr_Tomahawk
09-19-2011, 09:21 PM
Missed the end....who got "fired"?

Reaper16
09-19-2011, 09:21 PM
Missed the end....who got "fired"?
Miz and R-Truth.

BryanBusby
09-19-2011, 09:21 PM
Missed the end....who got "fired"?

RIP Miz-Truth

Mr_Tomahawk
09-19-2011, 09:23 PM
:facepalm:

chiefscafan
09-19-2011, 09:30 PM
Wow what a cluster f@ck. Hmm so wwe is back to doing the same crap I feel I just wasted two hours.

keg in kc
09-19-2011, 09:40 PM
Sounds like it was a good plan to skip the last hour to watch network TV.

Reaper16
09-20-2011, 12:30 AM
The last hour was pretty entertaining. Jackman & Ryder were hilarious, and the tag-match main event was solid. As for the ending, well, there's lots of options for how it can play out. I didn't see anything inherently wrong with the angle.

NJChiefsFan
09-20-2011, 12:40 AM
The last hour was pretty entertaining. Jackman & Ryder were hilarious, and the tag-match main event was solid. As for the ending, well, there's lots of options for how it can play out. I didn't see anything inherently wrong with the angle.

Aside from Mr. H's attempting to and failing to flip over a cart.

Ultra Peanut
09-20-2011, 12:55 AM
Yeah, Raw was shockingly fun considering how terrible NoC was. The main event angle(s?) is still confusing and overbooked and just downright awkward most of the time, but at least they gave themselves a lot of interesting options (not that I necessarily expect them to be able to capitalize). Jackman-Ryder-Ziggler was great, the Vickie-Swagger-Ziggler stuff was played pretty well, Mizark destroying Lawler was nice, and Miz and Truth are seemingly being elevated to some kind of Outsiders-style role.

Stuff was interesting, which is the last thing I expected to be able to say about a WWE show so soon after that abomination of a PPV.

58kcfan89
09-20-2011, 01:50 AM
Yeah, I actually felt like this Raw didn't totally suck. Expected Jackman to just be a walking commercial, and although he kinda was, they at least gave him a relevant story. And Ryder got on TV (was it just me or did he get huge pops?).

I'm really liking Ziggler recently. Hope his feud with Swagger is a good one. And the main event is getting weird. Thought I would hate the Cena/Punk team, but the match was solid. Interested to see where they go with this Truth-Miz thing, if anywhere. And I'm really interested to see if they've got a plan (yeah, right) for the women, or if they're just burying the heel divas to try & get Kelly over more...


I almost feel like they decided to try to get Punk over with the crowd as a face by aligning him with all the other faces. He teamed with Cena, doesn't seem to be pissed at HHH anymore and just doesn't seem to be as pissed off anymore. Kinda sucks IMO, but I'll keep watching regardless because I'm happy he's in a relevant, albeit awkward, storyline.

I imagine HIAC will suck, but I think they ought to either give Del Rio the title back (to keep him from going the way of Swagger) or let Punk run with it for longer than a month. Cena's gunna win clean though. By pinning both Punk & ADR. At the same time.

NJChiefsFan
09-20-2011, 02:01 AM
I'm really liking Ziggler recently. Hope his feud with Swagger is a good one. And the main event is getting weird. Thought I would hate the Cena/Punk team, but the match was solid. Interested to see where they go with this Truth-Miz thing, if anywhere. And I'm really interested to see if they've got a plan (yeah, right) for the women, or if they're just burying the heel divas to try & get Kelly over more...

I imagine HIAC will suck, but I think they ought to either give Del Rio the title back (to keep him from going the way of Swagger) or let Punk run with it for longer than a month. Cena's gunna win clean though. By pinning both Punk & ADR. At the same time.

I have always really liked Ziggler. Saw him in a dark match at the last HIAC in Newark, I think it was. He was great in that match.

I doubt Del Rio becomes Swagger if for no other reason then he can talk. Even the backstage tonight with Swagger was awkward at times. That turn towards Ziggler was just so weird and stiff.

Personally, my favorite thing right now is Miz and Truth. Truth's crazy eyes and comments have been great since he turned. I was hoping they would win the titles to ensure they stay together, but this story line could be good too. Of course, we have all said "this story line could be good" only to scratch our heads later on.

58kcfan89
09-20-2011, 02:08 AM
I have always really liked Ziggler. Saw him in a dark match at the last HIAC in Newark, I think it was. He was great in that match.

I doubt Del Rio becomes Swagger if for no other reason then he can talk. Even the backstage tonight with Swagger was awkward at times. That turn towards Ziggler was just so weird and stiff.

Personally, my favorite thing right now is Miz and Truth. Truth's crazy eyes and comments have been great since he turned. I was hoping they would win the titles to ensure they stay together, but this story line could be good too. Of course, we have all said "this story line could be good" only to scratch our heads later on.

Del Rio can talk, but until about 2 weeks ago, they didn't seem to have much faith in him to talk, seeing as how all his promos were the same up to that point. And agreed about Swagger, but he's just kind of an awkward dude (unless he's in the ring lol).

As for the Miz/Truth/main event story stuff, this could be really compelling if done right (how many times have I typed that?), but I have a bad feeling that it'll be someone lame like Funkman or Vince as the "higher power"/man behind the conspiracies.

NJChiefsFan
09-20-2011, 02:16 AM
As for the Miz/Truth/main event story stuff, this could be really compelling if done right (how many times have I typed that?), but I have a bad feeling that it'll be someone lame like Funkman or Vince as the "higher power"/man behind the conspiracies.

And they keep teasing this conspiracy stuff in subtle ways but don't build on it enough. I couldn't tell if the ref crap last night is supposed to lead somewhere or if it was just another ref doing a horrible job of making a distraction look real, ala tonight with the ref not seeing Jackman. Although breaks should be given when non-wrestlers are involved.

I also don't think they will play it out correctly. Who were half those wrestlers in the back when they kicked Miz/Truth out? At the very least they have some story lines with a little hope. Even though it won't pan out atleast its something. Sad to say but in past years there wasn't even that.

keg in kc
09-20-2011, 10:39 AM
I can't stand Ryder so I'm not the least bit sorry I missed that. I read about everything else that happened, which is good enough for me. My DVR can only handle 2 shows an hour, so I'm done with 9 pm Raw for the forseeable future. I can catch it later on youtube if I feel the need.

Speaking of Henry and Lawler:Jerry Lawler was taken to the hospital after the show last night with lower back problems after being slammed on the table by Mark Henry. There was a communications snafu as the company had ordered a gimmicked announcers table that would easily break for the spot, but the technical crew forgot to gimmick the table, unbeknownst by Lawler and Henry..

Captain Obvious
09-22-2011, 06:57 PM
I can't stand Ryder so I'm not the least bit sorry I missed that. I read about everything else that happened, which is good enough for me. My DVR can only handle 2 shows an hour, so I'm done with 9 pm Raw for the forseeable future. I can catch it later on youtube if I feel the need.

Speaking of Henry and Lawler:

Not sure if real or part of a storyline, but they are saying that Jackman broke Dolph's jaw.

58kcfan89
09-22-2011, 09:06 PM
Not sure if real or part of a storyline, but they are saying that Jackman broke Dolph's jaw.

I seem to remember thinking that was a really stiff punch, either that or Dolph sold it like a champ. That'd be pretty shitty if he had to miss time because of it, I'm really starting to get behind him.

Jerm
09-22-2011, 09:08 PM
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Get these two up to the main roster....now....

NJChiefsFan
09-22-2011, 09:10 PM
I seem to remember thinking that was a really stiff punch, either that or Dolph sold it like a champ. That'd be pretty shitty if he had to miss time because of it, I'm really starting to get behind him.

Yeah I have liked Dolph for a while now. I like how he wrestles. Just needs to work on the mic skills.

Ultra Peanut
09-23-2011, 12:42 PM
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Get these two up to the main roster....now....At this point I think it's safer for them to stay in FCW. Come to think of it, can we just stash Punk and Danielson there until all of the McMahons die in a plane accident?

big nasty kcnut
09-23-2011, 02:07 PM
that mean up i was hoping maybe triple h find another woman and i marry steph and i run wwe my way.

58kcfan89
09-23-2011, 03:02 PM
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Get these two up to the main roster....now....

I assume they're former ROH guys?

keg in kc
09-24-2011, 03:49 PM
Boggles the mind that you have to go the damn website to see shit like this:

http://www.wwe.com/shows/smackdown/frustrated-bryan-fires-back

Jerm
09-24-2011, 04:37 PM
I assume they're former ROH guys?

Seth Rollins is the former Tyler Black...yup he was in ROH.

Dean Ambrose is Jon Moxley, who wrestled all over the indys and has been an IWC darling for a while now.

They're both immensely talented IMO.

Captain Obvious
09-25-2011, 11:06 PM
I stumbled across the ROH TV show tonight. Apparently it's the first one. Production is terrible but the wrestling is beyond awesome. This is my first experience with ROH and I'm definitely a new fan.

Superturtle
09-26-2011, 07:27 PM
That match was awful.....

BryanBusby
09-26-2011, 07:34 PM
anal bleeding

Captain Obvious
09-26-2011, 07:36 PM
This KC crowd has been pretty good so far. Here's hoping they know what to do when Punk comes out.

Superturtle
09-26-2011, 07:51 PM
JFC at Henry.

Mr_Tomahawk
09-26-2011, 08:05 PM
LOL....didn't even know RAW was in KC tonight. LMAO

Just turned it on...have I missed anything?

I am guessing not.

Mr_Tomahawk
09-26-2011, 08:05 PM
Where is it at..Sprint Arena?

BryanBusby
09-26-2011, 08:07 PM
LOL....didn't even know RAW was in KC tonight. LMAO

Just turned it on...have I missed anything?

I am guessing not.

You missed probably the most awkward segment that lead to this phrase....

anal bleeding

Mr_Tomahawk
09-26-2011, 08:09 PM
You missed probably the most awkward segment that lead to this phrase....

LMAOLMAOLMAOLMAO

Please elaborate...please. LMAO

BryanBusby
09-26-2011, 08:12 PM
LMAOLMAOLMAOLMAO

Please elaborate...please. LMAO

They were talking about the injuries to Jerry Lawler after that fuck up from last week. Cole first mentions bruised ribs, starts to look nervous as fuck and ashamed, said something to confirm the shame and mentioned the anal bleeding.

JR looks uncomfortable as fuck and Booker T is all, "....what?"

It was an obvious situation that Vince fed into Coles headset and laughed the entire time.

Mr_Tomahawk
09-26-2011, 08:14 PM
They were talking about the injuries to Jerry Lawler after that **** up from last week. Cole first mentions bruised ribs, starts to look nervous as **** and ashamed, said something to confirm the shame and mentioned the anal bleeding.

JR looks uncomfortable as **** and Booker T is all, "....what?"

It was an obvious situation that Vince fed into Coles headset and laughed the entire time.

WTF?!?

http://images.t-nation.com/forum_images/auto/r/350x0/8/d/8de09-NotSureIfSerious.jpg

BryanBusby
09-26-2011, 08:16 PM
WTF?!?

http://images.t-nation.com/forum_images/auto/r/350x0/8/d/8de09-NotSureIfSerious.jpg

Quite serious, heh. Just wait for the segment to pop onto youtube to fully appreciate the awkwardness.

Superturtle
09-26-2011, 08:18 PM
WTF?!?

http://images.t-nation.com/forum_images/auto/r/350x0/8/d/8de09-NotSureIfSerious.jpg
Very serious.

Captain Obvious
09-26-2011, 08:32 PM
Good to see that Batista is back.

Also good to see that Ziggler still has a head.

BryanBusby
09-27-2011, 12:04 AM
nice to see video pop up already. Anal bleeding, for those that missed Raw.

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58kcfan89
09-27-2011, 02:00 AM
Booker's "wat?" was the best part of that show. Barely got my Punk fix.

Oh hey, we have a PPV on Sunday. Here's a 3 minute preview. Now pay $60 for more! Zero memorable moments (at least in a good way) from that show. Although I'm hoping they'll eventually get a Ryder-Ziggler feud soon.

Swanman
09-27-2011, 07:34 AM
Seth Rollins is the former Tyler Black...yup he was in ROH.

Dean Ambrose is Jon Moxley, who wrestled all over the indys and has been an IWC darling for a while now.

They're both immensely talented IMO.

Moxley was in Dragon Gate USA, which was probably the biggest indy fed that he worked for. I saw him wrestle Jimmy Jacobs in a no holds barred match and he did great. He plays the smarmy cocky heel perfectly.

Swanman
09-27-2011, 08:07 AM
I stumbled across the ROH TV show tonight. Apparently it's the first one. Production is terrible but the wrestling is beyond awesome. This is my first experience with ROH and I'm definitely a new fan.

If you like the no frills approach with some damn good in-ring work, ROH is something you will like.

I haven't watched the first episode (I think its BS that you have to pay to be able to watch the damn thing online), but I did see that Nigel McGuinness showed up to do color commentary with Kevin Kelly. That's about 77 shades of awesome and a huge upgrade over the team of Mike Hogewood and Dave Prazak on the HDNet show.

I hope Nigel can get back in the ring, but I know he is really beat up. He ended his ROH run last time wrestling with two torn biceps. He is an instant upgrade in many ways.

Swanman
09-27-2011, 08:17 AM
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Get these two up to the main roster....now....

At least FCW is still letting Tyler use God's Last Gift as his finisher, sweet move.

chiefscafan
09-27-2011, 11:15 AM
Was the Batista thing a joke because the guy looked like batista

Captain Obvious
09-27-2011, 11:21 AM
Was the Batista thing a joke because the guy looked like batista

Do I strike you as a guy who would joke around about something as serious as a Dave Batista return?

brett
09-27-2011, 11:31 AM
hahahha what was with the burgers pic? that seemed rather interesting to comment upon

BryanBusby
10-02-2011, 09:07 AM
For the hell of it (since I woke up ungodly early), I was looking around for the dumbest videos when I came across this.

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Almost completely forgot about Michael Cole getting Heidenraped.

58kcfan89
10-02-2011, 06:03 PM
http://www.firstrowsports.tv/watch/83974/3/watch-wwe-hell-in-a-cell.html

Al Bundy
10-02-2011, 08:41 PM
Uhhhmmmm well I see that Truth and Miz got arrested at the end of it.

Reaper16
10-02-2011, 08:41 PM
Well done.

Al Bundy
10-02-2011, 08:45 PM
Well done.

So who did they beat the hell out of?

Mr_Tomahawk
10-02-2011, 08:46 PM
Meh.....I duno.

Maybe I am just not into it anymore...but the ending with whole assault ordeal was "okay". I couldn't tell you what they SHOULD have done...but just another lackluster ppv IMO.

Reaper16
10-02-2011, 09:02 PM
So who did they beat the hell out of?
Everyone.

I wouldn't be surprised if, in story, HHH is removed from C.O.O. duties by the board soon. This conspiracy angle is in overdrive now.

BryanBusby
10-02-2011, 09:03 PM
I totally forgot there was even a PPV on tonight. Was it worth a fuck?

Mr_Tomahawk
10-02-2011, 09:48 PM
I totally forgot there was even a PPV on tonight. Was it worth a ****?

Worth as much as the Chiefs beating the Vikings today...


(I am pro S4L fwiw)

Reaper16
10-02-2011, 10:48 PM
I totally forgot there was even a PPV on tonight. Was it worth a fuck?
It was worth watching on a free stream. Solid PPV. Well-done main event.

58kcfan89
10-03-2011, 01:43 AM
It was worth watching on a free stream. Solid PPV. Well-done main event.

Pretty much agree, but after Del Rio beat Punk (because God forbid Cena get pinned by someone anymore) I didn't really give a shit what they did after the fact. What in the hell was the point of having Cena win the title 2 fucking weeks ago?

Anyway, I was glad Beth won. Other than that, I just didn't really care. Solid show, but I'm finding myself less interested by the week.

I was talking to my friend & told him that if Punk's not on, I really don't care what's happening. Pretty much sums up my entire attitude of the wrestling world right now. Maybe it's just a bad day, but that's how I feel. Which is sad, because I was totally into every bit of the MitB PPV a few months ago.


Oh, and the HIAC gimmick has officially been overdone. But that's a rant for a different time.

BryanBusby
10-03-2011, 09:21 AM
What in the hell was the point of having Cena win the title 2 fucking weeks ago?


They were hoping for a bump in ratings I'd assume.

Finally got around to watching Hell in a Cell and it was meh overall, as expected.

Sheamus/Christian was not as good as it could of been. Beth/Kelly Kelly was just downright awful; sure Beth won but had to do it via interference. Why in the fuck are they trying to force K2 being a force down our throats? She sucks. Henry/Orton was pretty awful, too. Other matches (Rhodes/Morrison, Tag match) were nothing memorable.

The Main Event was the only redeeming thing, and that was mainly because of Punk taking insane bumps and Miz-Truth.

It was a mess PPV that was slapped together quickly, because two weeks inbetween PPVs is a good idea. At least the next one isn't a few weeks away too.......wait a second.

Swanman
10-03-2011, 09:26 AM
I watched parts of the main event this morning, and meh. Cena was protected and they got the belt back on Del Rio (he shouldn't have had to lose it in the first place) so its back to square one.

The MizTruth thing was kinda interesting, but the whole roster shaking the cage was just stupid. What are they hoping to accomplish? Are they trying to topple the entire cage? And why do they give a shit that a couple wrestlers are getting their ass kicked? It would have been a more efficient use of time to just find some bolt cutters and cut the damn lock on the door. I know wrestling writing isn't supposed to reflect pure reality, but come on.

chiefscafan
10-03-2011, 10:06 PM
Wow no comments on the crap which was on tonight is John cena too good to come out for the end. Best part cm punk coming out with the new T with him on a wwe ice cream bar classic.

chiefscafan
10-03-2011, 10:07 PM
Rest of the show was dumb and predictable oh worst acting job goes to Kelly kelly

Reaper16
10-03-2011, 10:30 PM
Rest of the show was dumb and predictable oh worst acting job goes to Kelly kelly
Turborage Kelly Kelly cracks my shit up.

58kcfan89
10-03-2011, 11:12 PM
Wow no comments on the crap which was on tonight is John cena too good to come out for the end. Best part cm punk coming out with the new T with him on a wwe ice cream bar classic.

Not trying to be a dick, but I'm pretty sure he had that on, either last week or the week before.

Anyway, was there anything worth watching? I'm considering downloading it & skipping through the crap parts, but if the whole show is crap, I won't waste my time.

EDIT: The shirt's already out of stock, lol. STOP SHITTING ON PUNK!

http://www.wweshop.com/item/cm-punk-ice-cream-bar-t-shirt/cmpunk/01-14955

keg in kc
10-03-2011, 11:32 PM
Reading the show highlights, I think I'm glad I'm not watching Raw anymore (thank you Castle and Hawaii Five-O for both being on at 9).

The running gag is that Hun-tor finally has what he wants as of tonight: the entire Raw audience (live crowd at least) seeing him as the only star and only face and everybody else on the roster gets booed as heels.

Short Leash Hootie
10-04-2011, 12:10 AM
Reading the show highlights, I think I'm glad I'm not watching Raw anymore (thank you Castle and Hawaii Five-O for both being on at 9).

The running gag is that Hun-tor finally has what he wants as of tonight: the entire Raw audience (live crowd at least) seeing him as the only star and only face and everybody else on the roster gets booed as heels.

other than Punk, Cena and Orton...

chiefscafan
10-04-2011, 12:30 AM
Didn't know ge wore it before pretty bad show in general.

NJChiefsFan
10-04-2011, 12:35 AM
My problem with this whole walk-out tonight is that they didn't do enough to make it justified. This isn't even the "craziest" enviornment in the past few years. Nexus was much worse than this. So it was hard to buy into the wrestlers walking out because this is just too much chaos for them.

The tag match lasted like 45 minutes and 2 commercial breaks. Santino beating Drew Mcintyre in 3 minutes straight up really tells a story about Drew.

Overall skimmed through it with the Yankee game on. HHH did a poor job with the part at the end. Essentially didn't respond to anything any of the wrestlers said to him.

chiefscafan
10-04-2011, 01:19 AM
Hunter has a major ego it is like somebody said he wants the whole show to focus on him and tonight he got it. The rest of the audience changed the Chanel to something better.

58kcfan89
10-04-2011, 01:56 AM
My problem with this whole walk-out tonight is that they didn't do enough to make it justified. This isn't even the "craziest" enviornment in the past few years. Nexus was much worse than this. So it was hard to buy into the wrestlers walking out because this is just too much chaos for them.

The tag match lasted like 45 minutes and 2 commercial breaks. Santino beating Drew Mcintyre in 3 minutes straight up really tells a story about Drew.

Overall skimmed through it with the Yankee game on. HHH did a poor job with the part at the end. Essentially didn't respond to anything any of the wrestlers said to him.

A tag match lasted 45 minutes? Holy shit! Was it an actual traditional tag match with 2 guys on each team, or did they just throw like 12 main eventers into the match? Cause if they actually did it right, I'd love to see a 45 minute tag match at some point (considering we haven't had a good, well-built 2-on-2 tag match in a LONG time).

And I'm sad to hear about D-Mac. I've always thought his in-ring work was pretty good and for the most part was a fan of his. Sounds like they really don't want anything to do with him, though.

I'll probably download it tomorrow & skim through it until I see CM Punk or something, just out of force of habit...

big nasty kcnut
10-04-2011, 04:24 AM
I thought it was good. I think the walk thing was awesome cause it will force triple h hand and maybe the return of mick foley. Also thought that was interesting that cm punk john cena was not there.

Renegade
10-04-2011, 06:12 AM
What I found more interesting was none of Cena's tag team partners were out there at the end

Captain Obvious
10-04-2011, 07:26 AM
It wasn't Drew McIntyre, it was that Jinder Mahal guy that Santino cobra'd.

And I think Kofi and Bourne were out there for the walkout.

Reaper16
10-04-2011, 10:06 AM
It wasn't Drew McIntyre, it was that Jinder Mahal guy that Santino cobra'd.

And I think Kofi and Bourne were out there for the walkout.
Correct on both counts.

chiefscafan
10-04-2011, 10:36 AM
Still pretty lame show

58kcfan89
10-04-2011, 04:12 PM
Other than the last 15 minutes, that show was awful. And even the last 15 minutes was to keep Mr. H's as the focus of the show.

When King mentioned CM Punk & how there was someone behind the scenes, I was hoping he'd come & actually bring some charisma & entertainment to the segment, but alas... All about Huntor!

chiefscafan
10-04-2011, 09:29 PM
Yep I agree pretty dull show and once again hunter is in controll and it's all bout him Surprised he didn't give himself the world title again maybe that's happening in the next couple of weeks. This is why I stopped watching before that everything centered around hunter.

chiefscafan
10-05-2011, 11:17 PM
Moving this up is wwe becoming stale once again??

NJChiefsFan
10-05-2011, 11:29 PM
A tag match lasted 45 minutes? Holy shit! Was it an actual traditional tag match with 2 guys on each team, or did they just throw like 12 main eventers into the match? Cause if they actually did it right, I'd love to see a 45 minute tag match at some point (considering we haven't had a good, well-built 2-on-2 tag match in a LONG time).

And I'm sad to hear about D-Mac. I've always thought his in-ring work was pretty good and for the most part was a fan of his. Sounds like they really don't want anything to do with him, though.

I'll probably download it tomorrow & skim through it until I see CM Punk or something, just out of force of habit...

The second thing you said, as usual. Literally a 12 man match.

chiefscafan
10-06-2011, 12:55 AM
No one else worried that hunter is making wwe all bout him again??

MattCassel
10-06-2011, 01:03 AM
I'm a special guest tomorrow. Promoting my BALLS OF STEEL AND SUPERIOR ARM STRENGTH.

BryanBusby
10-06-2011, 03:11 AM
No one else worried that hunter is making wwe all bout him again??

Are you really surprised? I said this was going to happen the moment he appeared on TV again.

I still remember the 30+ minute opening promos he did every fucking Monday night.

big nasty kcnut
10-06-2011, 03:23 AM
He won't main event thou they going to have punk vs. del rio with punk as champ.

Swanman
10-06-2011, 08:10 AM
Moving this up is wwe becoming stale once again??

It's boring retread bullshit. Now that the ROH has a weekly show (that I have to watch online but oh well), my interest in the E dropped even more.

58kcfan89
10-07-2011, 02:09 AM
Are you really surprised? I said this was going to happen the moment he appeared on TV again.

I still remember the 30+ minute opening promos he did every fucking Monday night.

Gotta give you credit here. I vividly remember the weekly 30+ minute promos each week, but thought this might be different...

Anywho...
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Alright, WWE, you've got about 5 or 6 years to make me care about someone other than CM Punk. Good luck.

The whole interview is solid, the last 4 or 5 minutes is really good IMO.

chiefscafan
10-07-2011, 09:14 AM
Cm punk is the best thing going for wwe but they will probably screw this up because hunter needs to be the star.

chiefscafan
10-11-2011, 12:42 AM
No comment bout tonight??

big nasty kcnut
10-11-2011, 01:45 AM
i like the beginning but the end was confusing.

Short Leash Hootie
10-11-2011, 04:02 AM
I enjoyed it...not a whole lot of Cena, lol

Mark Henry is worthless...other than the divas that was the only match I fast forwarded and I usually fast forward 1/2 of RAW

Short Leash Hootie
10-11-2011, 04:03 AM
and any RAW where I get the Vince McMahon walk is a good RAW to me lol

chiefscafan
10-11-2011, 12:51 PM
But Michael Cole bragging really makes me not want to watch raw anymore.

58kcfan89
10-11-2011, 01:11 PM
Really wish they let Punk stay on commentary for awhile & let him go off. Could have been epic.

They're doing their jobs, I suppose. I'm intrigued enough to keep watching, but this whole "power struggle" story is getting annoying. It's like they're trying to swerve us every week.

I don't mind Funkman being the GM for now, but I'm really hoping this GM story actually pays off at some point (I mean, what happened to the anonymous Mac?).

I can't get excited in the slightest to see ADR vs. Cena for the belt. And Punk/HHH vs. Miz/Truth definitely isn't enough to get be to buy a PPV. That said, I'm interested to see if the two continue to interact after the PPV, because Punk & HHH seem to work well together.

I'm intrigued. Whether I'm actually entertained may be another story...

Short Leash Hootie
10-11-2011, 02:32 PM
But Michael Cole bragging really makes me not want to watch raw anymore.

it's all tongue and cheek...he is just doing it to be irritating...I think it's funny

Short Leash Hootie
10-11-2011, 02:33 PM
yeah...I was a little iffy on Punk/HHH but I kind of like it now...I thought that was a pretty cool moment last night...

SnakeXJones
10-11-2011, 05:14 PM
Tomko Arrested (http://www.tmz.com/2011/10/11/former-wwe-wrestler-arrested-for-robbing-a-pharmacy-tyson-tomko-bloody-needle-marks-travis-cvs-oxycodon-chilis/#.TpTNVXKjTTo)

Kinda of sad dude had talent

BigCatDaddy
10-12-2011, 12:31 PM
Tomko Arrested (http://www.tmz.com/2011/10/11/former-wwe-wrestler-arrested-for-robbing-a-pharmacy-tyson-tomko-bloody-needle-marks-travis-cvs-oxycodon-chilis/#.TpTNVXKjTTo)

Kinda of sad dude had talent

He obviously has a steroid problem.

BryanBusby
10-17-2011, 12:59 AM
Tomko Arrested (http://www.tmz.com/2011/10/11/former-wwe-wrestler-arrested-for-robbing-a-pharmacy-tyson-tomko-bloody-needle-marks-travis-cvs-oxycodon-chilis/#.TpTNVXKjTTo)

Kinda of sad dude had talent

"Tomko, gimmie a beat!"

In other news, Bound for Glory was pretty awful.

NJChiefsFan
10-17-2011, 01:44 AM
"Tomko, gimmie a beat!"

In other news, Bound for Glory was pretty awful.

My friends and I were thinking of getting it but didn't. We had hopes for TNA when they first started the new attitude stuff, but it got way to WCW in a bad way. I liked a lot about WCW back in the day, especially the long running feud of Hogan/Sting. Love long story lines.

Anyway, were there any good matches/story conclusions at all?

BryanBusby
10-17-2011, 03:52 AM
The only matches I actually enjoyed was Aries vs Kendrick (opener) and Anderson vs. Bully Ray. Hogan/Sting was your typical RUSSO SWERVE extraordinaire with Hogan turning face.

I was really disappointed in Roode/Angle though. The match seemed rather short for a Main Event, and having Roode lose to Angle was a fucking waste of all the effort they put into building him up. Angle will probably drop the title to him on free tv, but it'll be a waste by that point. Daniels/Styles was pretty bad, the knockouts thing was the expected trainwreck and the three way was a cluster fuck.

TNA as usual

BryanBusby
10-24-2011, 03:20 AM
So Vengeance was a thing...and here are my thoughts:

-Kofi/Bourne vs. Ziggler/Swagger: Match was good. Too bad Vince could give a **** less about tag teams.
-Ziggler vs. Ryder: Pretty short; could of been a really good match with more time.
-Phoenix vs. Torres: This was when I decided to take a shit. Couldn't of been a better decision.
-Christian vs. Shaemus: Not bad, but another disappointing match mainly because they are capable of doing much better.
-Miz/Truth vs. Huntorr/Punk: Oh boy, Kevin Nash run in (yawn). Thanks for putting a Raw match on a PPV
-Orton vs Rhodes: Match moved at an ungodly slow pace, Cody was buried. Sigh
-Show vs. Henry: Ring collapse, while starting to be overdone, was fitting for a match like this. Wasn't great, but better than I was expecting.
-Cena vs. Del Rio: Another Miz-Truth run in, Cena no sells everything. Del Rio wins, but looks like a chump. Even when you win....you still lose. Only reason this match didn't blow was due to the bumps Del Rio was taking like a champ.

-General thought: There's just too many PPVs. Too many performers are being recycled for the same set of matches over and over and the booking quality is dropping at a tremendous rate. It really is not surprising PPV buy-rates are tanking.

They need to cut out about a 3rd of the overall amount of PPVs. Work out deals with advertisers and sprinkle around some commercial free "supershows." Feels like I've watched 3 of these PPVs around a month of time.

keg in kc
10-25-2011, 09:01 AM
That was the flattest, lamest way possible to introduce the Rock tagteam at Survivor Series.

keg in kc
10-27-2011, 10:57 AM
So, the CM Punk angle has killed wrestling for me.

I watch, if I feel like it, the first hour of raw, and then the last 5 minutes, since my dvr is locked out at 9 pm to record a couple of primetime network shows. And I don't feel like I'm missing anything. At this point, I can just save myself the time and read a recap. They're usually awful programs anyway.

But back to Punk...

The timeline of the angle, best as I can remember, is this:

Punk cuts one of the best promos of the last decade, ostensibly about wanting to change the WWE
Punk, with interference, beats Cena in Chicago, leaves with the belt
at this point it looks awesome...
Punk appears at Comic-Con, HHH is inserted into angle as COO
Punk returns after a single week
...tailspin engaged...
Angle continues to be about change, building toward Punk/HHH
Kevin Nash appears, build slants toward inexplicable Punk/Nash match, Nash takes out Punk
Nash has mysterious medical condition, Punk/HHH match hotshotted
HHH beats Punk
Punk teams with HHH
What?
Nash interferes, Punk loses tag team match to Miz/Truth
Now we have Nash/HHH and Punk/Del Rio at Survivor Series

So somehow we've gone from Punk championing change to Punk being generic babyface number 4 (behind Huntor, Cena and Orton), apparently okay with everything as long as he gets his ice cream bar. He's losing repeatedly on PPV, now he doesn't get revenge on Nash, who thanks to his "medical condition" doesn't have to job to anybody but his good friend HHH (who already has a win over Punk - because Huntor really needs the rub... this is classic Nash/Cliq behavior...), and now Punk's almost certainly going to lose to Alberto Del Rio at Survivor Series. Which I'm actually okay with philosophically because they need to stop tossing the belt around.

But jesus, this has been handled almost as poorly as Nexus.

And it's got me tuning out. To the point where I feel stupid about ever buying into the angle at all to begin with.

Brock
10-27-2011, 01:48 PM
That was the most unintentionally hilarious bunch of hot garbage I've ever seen. I'm glad there was a football game on that was not quite as bad, but almost.

Renegade
10-27-2011, 02:30 PM
So I take it you will watch the muppets next week instead of the Chiefs kicking the tar out of the Chargers?

58kcfan89
10-27-2011, 03:07 PM
-General thought: There's just too many PPVs. Too many performers are being recycled for the same set of matches over and over and the booking quality is dropping at a tremendous rate. It really is not surprising PPV buy-rates are tanking.

They need to cut out about a 3rd of the overall amount of PPVs. Work out deals with advertisers and sprinkle around some commercial free "supershows." Feels like I've watched 3 of these PPVs around a month of time.

This. Even if I wanted to (I don't) order all these PPVs, there's no way I could afford it. Hell, I even forgot Vengeance was Sunday night until 3/4 of the way through after Punk tweeted something about fake tanner being for pussies...

That was the flattest, lamest way possible to introduce the Rock tagteam at Survivor Series.

ROFLROFL
http://i.imgur.com/Z9JsT.jpg

So, the CM Punk angle has killed wrestling for me.

I watch, if I feel like it, the first hour of raw, and then the last 5 minutes, since my dvr is locked out at 9 pm to record a couple of primetime network shows. And I don't feel like I'm missing anything. At this point, I can just save myself the time and read a recap. They're usually awful programs anyway.

But back to Punk...

The timeline of the angle, best as I can remember, is this:

Punk cuts one of the best promos of the last decade, ostensibly about wanting to change the WWE
Punk, with interference, beats Cena in Chicago, leaves with the belt
at this point it looks awesome...
Punk appears at Comic-Con, HHH is inserted into angle as COO
Punk returns after a single week
...tailspin engaged...
Angle continues to be about change, building toward Punk/HHH
Kevin Nash appears, build slants toward inexplicable Punk/Nash match, Nash takes out Punk
Nash has mysterious medical condition, Punk/HHH match hotshotted
HHH beats Punk
Punk teams with HHH
What?
Nash interferes, Punk loses tag team match to Miz/Truth
Now we have Nash/HHH and Punk/Del Rio at Survivor Series

So somehow we've gone from Punk championing change to Punk being generic babyface number 4 (behind Huntor, Cena and Orton), apparently okay with everything as long as he gets his ice cream bar. He's losing repeatedly on PPV, now he doesn't get revenge on Nash, who thanks to his "medical condition" doesn't have to job to anybody but his good friend HHH (who already has a win over Punk - because Huntor really needs the rub... this is classic Nash/Cliq behavior...), and now Punk's almost certainly going to lose to Alberto Del Rio at Survivor Series. Which I'm actually okay with philosophically because they need to stop tossing the belt around.

But jesus, this has been handled almost as poorly as Nexus.

And it's got me tuning out. To the point where I feel stupid about ever buying into the angle at all to begin with.

Eh, you shouldn't feel stupid for buying in, because the MITB PPV was an epic story IMO. But yeah, as soon as he came back 8 days later, that was pretty much the beginning of the end. I'm hoping they've got some epic plans for him for Mania, because I can still see him being mega-over, either as a face or heel. But yeah, my faith has taken a huge hit in the past few weeks/months.

So I take it you will watch the muppets next week instead of the Chiefs kicking the tar out of the Chargers?

I forgot about the Muppets. But seeing as how Raw sucks lately, I'll be watching the Chiefs sucky QB. I'm sure most everyone in here will be as well.

big nasty kcnut
10-27-2011, 03:28 PM
i'll dvr it for sure.Not missing the chiefs game for nothing.

keg in kc
10-27-2011, 03:50 PM
I hadn't even thought about the Chiefs game monday and the havoc it wreaks with my dvr. I guess I'll hook up my second TV and watch the game in the bedroom over the 9 o'clock hour, assuming it's still worth watching at that point. I used to have it set up that way to watch Raw, but it's not worth it now.

keg in kc
10-31-2011, 11:19 PM
I watched, literally, 5 minutes of Raw tonight. The last 5 minutes. During which Cena beat Miz and then beat up the interfering Truth.

Why does he even need a partner for Survivor Series?

This shit is indefensible now.

58kcfan89
11-09-2011, 06:13 PM
I watched, literally, 5 minutes of Raw tonight. The last 5 minutes. During which Cena beat Miz and then beat up the interfering Truth.

Why does he even need a partner for Survivor Series?

This shit is indefensible now.

You forgot the Muppets. That was awful.


Anyone else watch Monday's show?

Ziggler jobbed to Morrison (apparently the first win Morrison's had since August).

Then the high point of the show: Punk owning Del Rio in a promo.

Stupid segment with Kelly being in Maxim. Beth & Natty are pissed, then the face divas save the day.

Kevin Nash cut a 10-15 minute promo on HHH.

Short segment with Funkman, Coffee Boy, Punk & Del Rio backstage. Apparently Brodus Clay is returning next week (awesome).

Ryder & Cena vs. Miz & Truth as the ME. Miz pins Cena because Truth holds his leg down. They're really trying to make us give a shit about this tag team match, aren't they?

Crap show. If you're gunna watch anything, watch Punk's promo with Del Rio.

NJChiefsFan
11-09-2011, 06:18 PM
You forgot the Muppets. That was awful.


Anyone else watch Monday's show?

Ziggler jobbed to Morrison (apparently the first win Morrison's had since August).

Then the high point of the show: Punk owning Del Rio in a promo.

Stupid segment with Kelly being in Maxim. Beth & Natty are pissed, then the face divas save the day.

Kevin Nash cut a 10-15 minute promo on HHH.

Short segment with Funkman, Coffee Boy, Punk & Del Rio backstage. Apparently Brodus Clay is returning next week (awesome).

Ryder & Cena vs. Miz & Truth as the ME. Miz pins Cena because Truth holds his leg down. They're really trying to make us give a shit about this tag team match, aren't they?

Crap show. If you're gunna watch anything, watch Punk's promo with Del Rio.

Yeah the promo was good. Punk kind of repeats himself a few times but it was good overall. I have followed less over the past month than I have in a while. Not even sure if I am going to MSG for Survivor Series at this point.

58kcfan89
11-09-2011, 07:03 PM
Yeah the promo was good. Punk kind of repeats himself a few times but it was good overall. I have followed less over the past month than I have in a while. Not even sure if I am going to MSG for Survivor Series at this point.

I almost feel like they're telling him to hold back with Del Rio, like they don't want him to embarass their champion. Or maybe they've just watered down his character so much that it doesn't make sense for him to go all-out.

Anyway, I'd probably go to SS, just to see Rocky's return and the possibility of Punk winning the title (if money's no issue, anyway). Unfortunately, I'm nowhere near NYC lol

58kcfan89
11-09-2011, 07:05 PM
FYI, the South Park pro wrestling episode is on now.

Making fun of Edge vs. Cena lol

keg in kc
11-11-2011, 01:31 PM
I've completely lost interest. I'm not sure I'd even watch a survivor series stream at this point. I think Foley's back Monday. Don't care.

However, this is worth watching. Daniel Bryan versus William Regal on this week's Superstars, starting at about the 22-minute mark (including a bit of classic regal entrance music LMAO):

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/hHuLxV5Eiu0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

If only Raw and Smackdown could be more like this...

Mr. Arrowhead
11-11-2011, 01:33 PM
I havent watched it in over 2 weeks, cant say I have missed it

big nasty kcnut
11-11-2011, 02:02 PM
yes regal is a real man man.

Brock
11-11-2011, 02:44 PM
Stop watching this crap.

Swanman
11-11-2011, 03:49 PM
I've completely lost interest. I'm not sure I'd even watch a survivor series stream at this point. I think Foley's back Monday. Don't care.

However, this is worth watching. Daniel Bryan versus William Regal on this week's Superstars, starting at about the 22-minute mark (including a bit of classic regal entrance music LMAO):

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/hHuLxV5Eiu0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

If only Raw and Smackdown could be more like this...

Regal had a hand in training him at one point so I imagine they had amazing chemistry.

keg in kc
11-14-2011, 05:58 PM
3 hour raw tonight with Rock and Foley. I'm expecting this to be a disappointment and probably the last raw I watch.

BryanBusby
11-14-2011, 06:05 PM
I've already regret turning this shit on.

CoMoChief
11-14-2011, 06:17 PM
FINALLLLLLLYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


(anyone have a stream??? ROFL I really need to watch tonight's raw )

Reaper16
11-14-2011, 06:18 PM
Punk = segment savior

Superturtle
11-14-2011, 06:26 PM
Can JR please just stay on commentary forever?

Superturtle
11-14-2011, 06:29 PM
W00t Spotfest!!!

CoMoChief
11-14-2011, 07:15 PM
wtf? Foley's doing the same thing to Cena as he did to the Rock....bringin back his old teacher, gf etc.

CoMoChief
11-14-2011, 07:20 PM
fuck the Rock n Sock connection.....Foley deserved every bit of that Rock Bottom

Superturtle
11-14-2011, 07:36 PM
WWE is making Ryder stale.....

B_Razz
11-14-2011, 09:45 PM
did anyone catch the end of raw? i thought it came off kinda flat

keg in kc
11-14-2011, 09:47 PM
I did, and I didn't understand it at all. Why buy the PPV when you get to watch Rock and Cena beat up Miz and Truth for free on Raw? It was yet more reinforcement that Miz and Truth aren't on Rock and Cena's level.

I actually thought the show was okay up until that point.

B_Razz
11-14-2011, 09:49 PM
Totally agree about why ordering the PPV. I know im probably in the minority but I mark out everytime i get to hear the NWO music and Kevin Nash comes out and powerbombs someone, it makes me feel like im 9 again lol

Reaper16
11-14-2011, 10:20 PM
Awful.

58kcfan89
11-15-2011, 02:16 AM
I did, and I didn't understand it at all. Why buy the PPV when you get to watch Rock and Cena beat up Miz and Truth for free on Raw? It was yet more reinforcement that Miz and Truth aren't on Rock and Cena's level.

I actually thought the show was okay up until that point.

Pretty much. It's kinda hard to care about the tag match considering there's no way (kayfabe-wise) that Miz/Truth can hang with Rocky/Cena.

Overall, it wasn't a bad show, but there were definitely some cringeworthy parts.

Does anyone really care about Nash vs. HHH in 2011? And the Foley thing wasn't funny and went on way too long. I'm a Foley fan though, so I'd like to see him stick around in some role.

Definitely agree that they're overdoing the Ryder thing. I like him, but don't need to see him every 10 minutes asking someone to sign his petition.

And speaking of not hanging with someone, it was pretty clear last night why Del Rio & Punk haven't had many face-to-face promos together. I couldn't understand half of the crap ADR said while Punk still owns everybody. Hope he takes the belt off ADR, cause at this point, his title reign has been weak as hell and I don't see it getting any better.

As for Survivor Series, I'll probably stream because I want Punk to win the title and because I'll probably mark like a bitch for Rocky.

Swanman
11-15-2011, 07:35 AM
Does anyone really care about Nash vs. HHH in 2011?

They could have a contest to see who could walk fastest without tearing a quad. That would be captivating.

58kcfan89
11-18-2011, 03:14 PM
Nothing new (although it's fun to watch), but what happened to the CM Punk in this video? Stupid WWE....

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/6cV6wAdkLkM" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

I want more of this around Rumble/Mania time.

big nasty kcnut
11-18-2011, 04:47 PM
I think this will happen cena is fighting miz and truth he accidentally hit the rock and when cena hit the aa the rock give him the rock bottom and then put him on top of miz and he leave. Then r truth flip cena and miz so miz can get the win and this help out two ways first miz and r truth can say they beat cena and rock and also this will get the hype build up for the wrestlemania match between rock and cena.

58kcfan89
11-20-2011, 06:01 PM
http://www.firstrowsports.tv/watch/93410/1/watch-wwe-survivor-series-2011.html

Just in case anyone gives a damn...

BryanBusby
11-20-2011, 06:22 PM
http://www.firstrowsports.tv/watch/93410/1/watch-wwe-survivor-series-2011.html

Just in case anyone gives a damn...

Tuned in just in time for divas match. Very little interest built up is now completely gone.

58kcfan89
11-20-2011, 06:35 PM
You missed a pretty damn good opener. I don't like Morrison but he had a good match with Ziggler, followed up with a Ryder run-in. Huge pop for him, too.

And the divas match at least had a cool finish.

Not a bad start IMO.

BryanBusby
11-20-2011, 06:39 PM
Welp glad I stuck around for Rock promo

58kcfan89
11-20-2011, 07:26 PM
Yeah, Rocky's definitely on top of his game tonight.

I'd seriously travel to go to a PPV if he ever wrestled Punk.

This crowd just chanted "Sexual Chocolate" ... "D'Lo Brown"...and "Boooooring" all within about 5 minutes of each other. Love MSG.

Mr_Tomahawk
11-20-2011, 07:27 PM
Crowd chanting "boring" during Big Show vs Mark Henry match.

58kcfan89
11-20-2011, 07:35 PM
Wow. 5 minutes after the "BOOOORING" chants, Big Show hits an elbow drop from the top rope.

This has actually been a really entertaining show IMO.

keg in kc
11-20-2011, 08:12 PM
Woot. Parents left for the night, turned it on just in time to see Punk win!

Captain Obvious
11-20-2011, 08:12 PM
About damn time that happened.

This crowd has been amazing tonight.

Al Bundy
11-20-2011, 08:12 PM
Yep CM punk with the win.

58kcfan89
11-20-2011, 08:13 PM
PUNK WINS
PUNK WINS
PUNK WINS
PUNK WINS
PUNK WINS
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

58kcfan89
11-20-2011, 08:24 PM
My God, Rocky....

For a dude who hasn't wrestled since 2004, you'd think he hadn't missed a day.

keg in kc
11-20-2011, 08:34 PM
My God, Rocky....

For a dude who hasn't wrestled since 2004, you'd think he hadn't missed a day.Something tells me he gets a pass as far as "wellness violations". Cough cough.

keg in kc
11-20-2011, 08:48 PM
Well, it was fun seeing Rock do all his old moves, but that was pretty pointless.

Hoping something cool happens now.

keg in kc
11-20-2011, 08:53 PM
Pretty lame.

This could have been the biggest thing ever if they just had the balls to take Cena heel. Just for six freaking months.

58kcfan89
11-20-2011, 09:46 PM
Yeah, the ending kinda sucked. But I can kinda see why they don't want to turn Cena this early. I doubt Rocky's around on a regular basis to continue the feud, so it's whatever. It was just awesome to see him in the ring again and the crowd behind him like that.

Would really like to see a "You stupid old man, I'm a snake" promo from Punk right around Wrestlemania or here pretty quickly. He said he was going to make the WWE Title interesting again. Hope he can do it. And I hope he ends up changing that stupid belt. I seriously hate looking at that thing.

Overall, I'd say it was their 2nd best PPV of the year, right behind Money in the Bank.

58kcfan89
11-21-2011, 11:46 AM
Nothing really groundbreaking, but kinda cool nonetheless. I'm glad to see Rocky back for at least a handful of shows.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/Kw6KqdZvTsA" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

keg in kc
11-21-2011, 11:37 PM
Sounds like it was a good Raw tonight. Might have to catch it on Hulu. Apparently it was a lot of good wrestling with clean finishes, and only got really retarded when Cena came out at the end.

58kcfan89
11-22-2011, 12:52 AM
Sounds like it was a good Raw tonight. Might have to catch it on Hulu. Apparently it was a lot of good wrestling with clean finishes, and only got really retarded when Cena came out at the end.

Was kinda like Survivor Series. Good show, lame ending.

If you don't watch Raw, I'd definitely advise watching Punk vs. Ziggler. That was an awesome match, one of the best I've seen in awhile, especially on TV. Sheamus vs. Thwagger wasn't bad, either.

Punk's promo at the beginning was kinda cool, but definitely nothing groundbreaking. Seems like they're building for something big there with him & Lauranitis. Del Taco is apparently going to get his rematch next week.

Cena came out towards the end, recapped last night. Miz & Truth interrupted him and he basically said 1 little thing & they turned on each other. Miz ended up giving Truth a SCF on the ramp.

All that buildup for them, just so they could job to Rocky & Cena. Weak.

And I keep waiting for Brodus Clay to come back, but didn't see him. No idea what their plan is there.

58kcfan89
11-22-2011, 01:23 AM
Wat da hell?
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/HxGkXIphAHw" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Apparently they flashed a link to this video on Raw last night. I'm guessing Jericho or Undertaker return. Either way, it's time for this shit to get cool again.

keg in kc
11-22-2011, 01:28 AM
It's Kane.

Jericho has said recently he's never going back to WWE. Apparently there's been some kind of major falling out there. Not that things can't resolve themselves, but it doesn't look good. That would have been a tremendous return and potential program with "Best in the World" CM Punk.

I'm still dreaming of the "Bryan Danielson goes on a winning streak and announces he's challenging Punk at wrestlemania" program that will never, ever happen in a million years.

keg in kc
11-22-2011, 10:25 AM
Ron Killings has been hit with a 30-day wellness violation. Guess that explains the Awesome Truth bit at the end last night.

58kcfan89
11-22-2011, 12:22 PM
It's Kane.

Jericho has said recently he's never going back to WWE. Apparently there's been some kind of major falling out there. Not that things can't resolve themselves, but it doesn't look good. That would have been a tremendous return and potential program with "Best in the World" CM Punk.

I'm still dreaming of the "Bryan Danielson goes on a winning streak and announces he's challenging Punk at wrestlemania" program that will never, ever happen in a million years.

They had a Kane promo like 2 minutes after they flashed the link to this. Think they'd put videos for the same guy back-to-back?

I too want to see D-Bry vs. Punk, but I think I'd rather see it a year or 2 down the line. I'm still not hearing the roof jump off the place when "Cult of Personality" hits and I'd like to see that happen with both guys before they're put in a Wrestlemania program.

Would kinda like to see Punk wrestle & go over a big name to get him more over long-term (like what happened with Austin vs. HBK, Edge vs. Foley, Batista vs. HHH, etc.) and give him that defining "Wrestlemania moment," but with Rocky already booked, I don't know who, what or how they'd do it seeing as how they already ruined a match with HHH...

Ron Killings has been hit with a 30-day wellness violation. Guess that explains the Awesome Truth bit at the end last night.

What a moron. There went his push. Wonder if they put Miz in the title picture for TLC now...

Swanman
11-22-2011, 12:29 PM
I was happy that Punk went over, the end to that match was very well done with Punk selling the arm and instead of using the GTS, went to the anaconda vice instead. As for the main event, Rock really pinned Miz with the stupid ass People's Elbow? That's like SuperCena pinning someone with the Five Knuckle Shuffle. I love how moves like the DDT have become meh transition moves, yet that move will pin a former world champion.

keg in kc
11-22-2011, 12:34 PM
They had a Kane promo like 2 minutes after they flashed the link to this. Think they'd put videos for the same guy back-to-back?Oh, hrm. Don't know then.I too want to see D-Bry vs. Punk, but I think I'd rather see it a year or 2 down the line. I'm still not hearing the roof jump off the place when "Cult of Personality" hits and I'd like to see that happen with both guys before they're put in a Wrestlemania program.

Would kinda like to see Punk wrestle & go over a big name to get him more over long-term (like what happened with Austin vs. HBK, Edge vs. Foley, Batista vs. HHH, etc.) and give him that defining "Wrestlemania moment," but with Rocky already booked, I don't know who, what or how they'd do it seeing as how they already ruined a match with HHH...All they need to do with Punk is let him win, and do it clean. That is if they want to keep him a babyface. The reaction for him Sunday was huge.

He's been booked horribly (again) for months. They have him losing over and over. They need to make "best in the world" more than just a catch phrase...

Watch them give the title back to alberto Monday.

58kcfan89
11-22-2011, 12:49 PM
Oh, hrm. Don't know then.All they need to do with Punk is let him win, and do it clean. That is if they want to keep him a babyface. The reaction for him Sunday was huge.

He's been booked horribly (again) for months. They have him losing over and over. They need to make "best in the world" more than just a catch phrase...

Watch them give the title back to alberto Monday.

Right, but he's always had a big reaction in NYC, Chicago, etc. I'd like to see that same reaction in "The WWE Universiest Places Ever" (aka Wichita, Tulsa, OKC, Omaha, etc.). I think they're serious about letting him hold the belt for awhile. I just don't trust them to give him said "Wrestlemania moment" that could define his career and give it a huge push forward, especially with the casual fans/Little Jimmy.

As for keeping him a face, I can't wait to see the reaction when the eventual "You stupid old man, I'm a snake" promo happens.

keg in kc
11-22-2011, 08:34 PM
Potential Miz news:-- Besides the suspension, the Truth injury angle and Awesome Truth split was because Miz is doing to be getting a singles push into the title picture over the next few months. At least as of last night.

58kcfan89
11-22-2011, 08:42 PM
Dammit. Watch them give him the belt at the Rumble or TLC...

I like Miz, but am imagining him taking the title off Punk, which isn't cool...

keg in kc
11-22-2011, 10:01 PM
ROFL. Some SD spoilers. This ain't ending well for Danielson (hell, it didn't start well):The show opened with Mark Henry cutting a promo while needing a crutch. He yelled at the fans for being happy to see him in pain but that said he sould be respected for being champion. Big Show came out and Henry called him the World's Largest Loser. Show knocked Henry out. Daniel Bryan ran in with the briefcase, cashed it in and apparently won the title.

(Wait. What? I thought he was going to be "honorable"?)

However, Teddy Long then came out and said Mark Henry was not medically cleared so thus the match result is considered void and that Henry is still the champion. However, he did announce that Henry would be cleared next week and would defend the title against the winner of the four-way main event with Bryan, Randy Orton, Wade Barrett and Cody Rhodes on the live show next week from Charlotte.

Beth Phoenix & Natalya b A.J. & Kaitlyn - Natalya used the sharpshooter on A.J. They continued to beat them down until Aliciz Fox made the save. (Yes, this is pertinent to the Danielson storyline).

Henry confronted Long about defending the title next week and Long then announced next week's title match would be in a cage.

Daniel Bryan and A.J. apparently are having a relationship. She wasn't happy about being beaten down. Wade Barrett yelled at Bryan. The segment ended with Bryan kissing A.J.

Daniel Bryan won the four-way over Orton, Barrett and Rhodes with the LeBell lock on Rhodes. Rhodes attacked him after the match and Orton jumped in to make the save.

(Well, at least they gave him a win there. Wonder what kind of banana peel it involved?)

58kcfan89
11-22-2011, 10:17 PM
ROFL. Some SD spoilers. This ain't ending well for Danielson (hell, it didn't start well):The show opened with Mark Henry cutting a promo while needing a crutch. He yelled at the fans for being happy to see him in pain but that said he sould be respected for being champion. Big Show came out and Henry called him the World's Largest Loser. Show knocked Henry out. Daniel Bryan ran in with the briefcase, cashed it in and apparently won the title.

(Wait. What? I thought he was going to be "honorable"?)

However, Teddy Long then came out and said Mark Henry was not medically cleared so thus the match result is considered void and that Henry is still the champion. However, he did announce that Henry would be cleared next week and would defend the title against the winner of the four-way main event with Bryan, Randy Orton, Wade Barrett and Cody Rhodes on the live show next week from Charlotte.

Beth Phoenix & Natalya b A.J. & Kaitlyn - Natalya used the sharpshooter on A.J. They continued to beat them down until Aliciz Fox made the save. (Yes, this is pertinent to the Danielson storyline).

Henry confronted Long about defending the title next week and Long then announced next week's title match would be in a cage.

Daniel Bryan and A.J. apparently are having a relationship. She wasn't happy about being beaten down. Wade Barrett yelled at Bryan. The segment ended with Bryan kissing A.J.

Daniel Bryan won the four-way over Orton, Barrett and Rhodes with the LeBell lock on Rhodes. Rhodes attacked him after the match and Orton jumped in to make the save.

(Well, at least they gave him a win there. Wonder what kind of banana peel it involved?)

W.
T.
Fuck?

So does he still have the briefcase?...

BigRock
11-23-2011, 08:46 AM
For whatever it's worth, Dave Scherer at Pro Wrestling Insider says the IT BEGINS video is definitely for Chris Jericho.

(hey sup guys)

BryanBusby
11-23-2011, 10:33 PM
Wat da hell?
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/HxGkXIphAHw" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Apparently they flashed a link to this video on Raw last night. I'm guessing Jericho or Undertaker return. Either way, it's time for this shit to get cool again.

I'd guess Undertaker. That's right about when they'd start building him up for Wrestlemania.

Simply Red
11-25-2011, 07:46 PM
fatal-four match

58kcfan89
11-28-2011, 08:36 PM
This has been a really good show tonight IMO.

Linked to another creepy video. The more I see, the more I think it's Taker... Ugh.

http://www.youtube.com/second2012#p/a/u/0/KN9FWb0zKm8