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Count Alex's Losses
10-08-2007, 10:01 PM
http://chiefs.scout.com/2/688441.html

I guess you can whine about offensive playcalling, if you like. You can whine about too much soft coverage from Ty Law. And you can whine about 10 yards rushing.

But all of that will distract you from the reality of the situation.

Truth is, the Chiefs just got whipped by a better team on Sunday. Goliath caught David's rock and turned him into a dark smear.

A loss in Arrowhead Stadium is tough for any Chiefs fan to handle, but it takes a real juggernaut of a team to pull it off. Last year, it took the 12-4 Baltimore Ravens. The year before, it took the reigning NFC Champion Philadelphia Eagles.

In 2007, it took the Jacksonville Jaguars, perhaps the AFC’s best team outside of the New England Patriots. And that includes the Indianapolis Colts, a team the Jaguars dominated to the tune of 44-17 last December.

I’m quite serious. The Jaguars are that good. Jack Del Rio has won almost 60 percent of his road games over the last three seasons. This football team has always had a defense and a running game, but what they’ve always lacked – until now – was a quarterback. Byron Leftwich never panned out, and last year David Garrard was rocky.

But something has changed. Compare the Garrard you saw on Sunday to the one who was pulled for Quinn Gray at Arrowhead last December.

Garrard is playing like a sleeper MVP candidate this year. He won’t throw as many touchdowns as Peyton Manning, but he’ll convert just as many key third downs, especially with his ability to scramble. After Manning, Tom Brady and Carson Palmer, Garrard might be the AFC’s best quarterback. And I’d love to see what he could do with a pair of receivers like Chad Johnson and TJ Houshmandzadeh.

The Chiefs were throwing the kitchen sink at Garrard on Sunday. When Jacksonville converted a third-and-15 play on their first drive of the game, defensive coordinator Gunther Cunningham appeared to absolutely lose his mind.

After only rushing three and sitting back in zone defense on that key third and long, Cunnigham chose to send blitz after blitz at Garrard for the remainder of the afternoon. That left the aging Ty Law exposed on the corner, and Garrard picked on him time after time, completing pinpoint passes to average receivers.

Garrard was sacked twice during his opening drive and hit numerous times as the game wore on, but he never once panicked. Your average quarterback would have wilted under this kind of pressure. Leftwich certainly would have, and we saw Philip Rivers do just that a week ago. Three weeks ago, the Chiefs exposed Rex Grossman. But not Garrard. He kept his cool and kept his team in the game.

Meanwhile, Jacksonville’s defense was doing what they do best – dominate. Most people will talk about the New England Patriots or the Pittsburgh Steelers as the NFL’s best defense, but the Jaguars rank right there with them.

The Chiefs had faced good defenses this year – Chicago, Minnesota, San Diego – but none as complete as Jack Del Rio’s squad. Minnesota and San Diego both had huge weaknesses in their secondary. Not Jacksonville.

For the first time this year the Chiefs faced a truly complete defense. The Jaguars have the pass rushers (Bobby McCray) and corners (Rashean Mathis) to complement their pair of Pro-Bowl defensive tackles, John Henderson and Marcus Stroud. Without a running game, teams like the Vikings are the only sort the Chiefs will beat this year.

Faced with throwing every down while offensive tackle Chris Terry made his case for early retirement (it’s Herb Taylor time, Herm), KC’s offense was hopelessly outclassed. You can blame Damon Huard all you want, but name one quarterback who’s ever beaten Jack Del Rio’s defense without a supporting running game.

So yeah, I guess you could panic over Sunday’s 17-7 loss. The Chiefs’ third-down defense looked like a sieve, the offensive line looked lost, and 10 yards rushing looked like the end of Larry Johnson’s career. But the Chiefs won’t face a team that looks like this one again all year.

Hey, it could be worse. The Chiefs could have lost by 38 points to the San Diego Chargers. As it stands, right now they have a get-well date with the Cincinnati Bengals and the NFL’s worst defense. Panic if this happens again next week.

banyon
10-08-2007, 10:06 PM
why should anyone believe any of this s***?

dtebbe
10-08-2007, 10:07 PM
RE PEE OST

ROFL ROFL ROFL

Count Alex's Losses
10-08-2007, 10:08 PM
why should anyone believe any of this s***?

It is an opinion-based article. It is neither right nor wrong.

Deberg_1990
10-08-2007, 10:09 PM
Man, i hate to say i agree with you GoTurd, but i do. The Chiefs got schooled in every phase of the game yesterday by a damn good team.


I mentioned it a few times yesterday that the Jags are exactly the type of team Herm aspires to be. He just doesnt have all the pieces yet, and who knows if he ever will?? Whos the Jags Offensive coordinator??

Easy 6
10-08-2007, 10:09 PM
I'll read the article after i post.

We werent overmatched...we played like pussies, simple & plain...muthaf&ck them AND John Wayne.

Wilson
10-08-2007, 10:09 PM
hack

banyon
10-08-2007, 10:10 PM
It is an opinion-based article. It is neither right nor wrong.

but you won't back up your opinion, so who cares?

Count Alex's Losses
10-08-2007, 10:10 PM
but you won't back up your opinion, so who cares?

I stand by my opinion.

DFB
10-08-2007, 10:12 PM
It's a column, not a news article. It's supposed to be opinionated. Good column, GC.

banyon
10-08-2007, 10:14 PM
I stand by my opinion.

No you don't that's the point. If you did, you wouldn't still be posting.

cdcox
10-08-2007, 10:15 PM
If the Chiefs were overmatched (i.e. not competitive) by the (approximately) tenth best team in the league, what does that say about the viability of a Win Now strategy?

Is it smart to pursue a strategy doomed to fail?

What does it say about those who advocate it?

Count Alex's Losses
10-08-2007, 10:16 PM
No you don't that's the point. If you did, you wouldn't still be posting.

You are really upset. Did I run over your dog or something? Get a life and stop worrying about what GoChiefs does or doesn't do so much. It's quite pathetic.

banyon
10-08-2007, 10:18 PM
You are really upset. Did I run over your dog or something? Get a life and stop worrying about what GoChiefs does or doesn't do so much. It's quite pathetic.

If you don't understand you are the pathetic one, I guess you'll never understand. i deal everday with people about obeying laws and living up to the standards of society. Apparently I've gotten to you. sorry about that, that i stung too acutely, but what you did was really offensive to my sense of justice and equity.

Coach
10-08-2007, 10:19 PM
You are really upset. Did I run over your dog or something? Get a life and stop worrying about what GoChiefs does or doesn't do so much. It's quite pathetic.

Well if you want us to back off, then honor your damned bet already.

Count Alex's Losses
10-08-2007, 10:21 PM
Well if you want us to back off, then honor your damned bet already.

I don't care either way. The threads are very entertaining, but I wouldn't miss them if you "backed off."

Coach
10-08-2007, 10:24 PM
I don't care either way. The threads are very entertaining, but I wouldn't miss them if you "backed off."

I never said they're entertaining. I just said to keep that s**t out of the Planet forum. Thats not what its for...

Count Alex's Losses
10-08-2007, 10:32 PM
I never said they're entertaining. I just said to keep that s**t out of the Planet forum. Thats not what its for...

You act like I posted kiddie porn. Seriously. GET A GRIP.

banyon
10-08-2007, 10:34 PM
You act like I posted kiddie porn. Seriously. GET A GRIP.

Just honor the Godd**** bet and you won't have anything to worry about.

Count Alex's Losses
10-08-2007, 10:35 PM
Just honor the Godd**** bet and you won't have anything to worry about.

I don't have anything to worry about either way.

banyon
10-08-2007, 10:38 PM
I don't have anything to worry about either way.

Right no honor = no worries. :rolleyes:

Coach
10-08-2007, 10:47 PM
You act like I posted kiddie porn. Seriously. GET A GRIP.

I guess that never stopped you from posting them anyways eh?

The reason I am upset with you is because its obvious that you cannot tell a truth, let alone, honor it, especially if there was a bet involved.

Secondly in the same thread in a forum with only two rules that you obviously failed to read that as well and posted your smartass remark is because of your own stupidity.

Then on top of it, all you run back to the site that you came from claiming once again that we suck because people are trying to get you to do something honorable, yet you wouldn't do it, becuase it was ONLY because of your own stupidity and inability to read prior to opening your trap.

Gee, let me think...

Yup, that ranks pretty high up there on the old douche bag scale if you ask me.

6-7 335
10-08-2007, 11:03 PM
I thought the article was fairly accurate. The Chiefs were outmatched.

I don't agree with everything in it, though. Sounds like this guy is hyping up the Jags a bit.

We will live and die by our defense this year. So far, so good.

A low number of rushing yards isn't unheard of against us.
Ask:
Denver - 47
Pitts - 27
NYG - 26
ATL - 50 or so
Chiefs - 10

We can stop the run. Yall got us with some pass plays, though. TG still has it, I'll eat that crow.

Count Alex's Losses
10-08-2007, 11:14 PM
The reason I am upset with you....


ROFL

You could have stopped right there. If you really care that much, I pity you. This is THE INTERNET. People on this forum have exchanged money in return for my goods in the past. I delivered. I've got plenty of honor where it counts.

But continue being upset with me. ROFL

Extra Point
10-08-2007, 11:14 PM
My clock has eaten up minutes every time I read the grand obviouservations from GoatCheese.

I must admit, the price is right, except my time spent reading them.

Deberg_1990
10-08-2007, 11:16 PM
Jesus, I dont like GoTurd anymore than the next guy in here, but get a grip guys....

Some of you act like he stole your daughters virginity and just told you he was going to be the father of her child....

'Hamas' Jenkins
10-08-2007, 11:19 PM
The Jags are an excellent football team. Don't underrate them. They will make the playoffs this year. Probably the top wildcard seed.

Preceded by...


I've been up all night. I couldn't get to sleep. I just gave up.

I'm too excited to sleep.

I'm too excited to sleep because I think today could be the start of something special for the Chiefs.

I'm too excited because we have a great defense that's going to be out for blood today against a poor offensive football team.

I'm too excited because Dwayne Bowe is a stud and is only going to get better.

I'm too excited because Larry Johnson is frustrated and angry and is playing at home today and looking for his first touchdown.

I'm too excited because Eddie Kennison is back today and our offensive coaches are finally showing signs of removing their heads from their asses.

F*ck sleep.

Count Alex's Losses
10-08-2007, 11:20 PM
I realized they were a good football team going in, Hamas. I was still excited. I don't see your point.

banyon
10-08-2007, 11:22 PM
I realized they were a good football team going in, Hamas. I was still excited. I don't see your point.

No s***.

'Hamas' Jenkins
10-08-2007, 11:23 PM
Our team wasn't just dominated, it wasn't motivated either. We were flat and lazy. That's on Herm. He had the best win of any team in the NFL last week and he obviously took his foot off the gas. It was eerily like the home opener from last year: QB goes down w/ an injury, wet field, no offensive variety or capability, and piss poor blocking.

6-7 335
10-08-2007, 11:24 PM
If you're not excited about your team, something is wrong.

Nothing wrong with confidence. I don't really see it as the guy straddling the fence.
Excitement/Worries can go together.
I'm always confident and worried at the same time.

Its football baby. Its your team. Its passion. Passion/Objectivity don't always mix.

'Hamas' Jenkins
10-08-2007, 11:25 PM
I realized they were a good football team going in, Hamas. I was still excited. I don't see your point.

In 24 hours, David Garrard put up 17 points, throwing for one touchdown, and he morphed from the leader of a "poor offensive football team" into a "sleeper MVP candidate" on the "second best team in the AFC."

Mr Luzcious
10-08-2007, 11:27 PM
I think the chiefs lost because Herm is the king of fools.

Count Alex's Losses
10-08-2007, 11:27 PM
In 24 hours, David Garrard put up 17 points, throwing for one touchdown, and he morphed from the leader of a "poor offensive football team" into a "sleeper MVP candidate" on the "second best team in the AFC."

I knew he was good before the game. I wasn't impressed with his supporting cast, however. That holds true.

The Jags will go far. They're a damn good football team.

boogblaster
10-08-2007, 11:34 PM
My dead brother once told me years ago the fricking Chiefs have no-heart, he was right.. they play flat 70% of the time..If you're outmatched by someone you find a way to beat the S.O.B. not lay-down and whine.....Boog Outt ...

bringbackmarty
10-09-2007, 12:03 AM
goat talk too much.