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Silock
10-08-2007, 10:34 PM
Make it happen, Dayton.

JBucc
10-08-2007, 10:37 PM
And bring A-Rod with him.

petegz28
10-08-2007, 10:46 PM
If Torre can't win it with all that talent in NY wtf is he going to do here?

Silock
10-08-2007, 10:50 PM
If Torre can't win it with all that talent in NY wtf is he going to do here?

He's won 4 World Series...?

Archie F. Swin
10-08-2007, 10:51 PM
uhhh...I think he'd have a gun in his mouth by the all-star break

Reaper16
10-08-2007, 10:52 PM
No thanks.

banyon
10-08-2007, 10:52 PM
No. Girardi.

big nasty kcnut
10-08-2007, 10:52 PM
Not his fault the yankmee got fat off their money and underachieved. Torres would have guys who want to win.

Deberg_1990
10-08-2007, 10:53 PM
Who wouldnt want a manager with his credintials?

Reaper16
10-08-2007, 10:54 PM
No. Girardi.
This.

Coach
10-08-2007, 10:55 PM
Who wouldnt want a manager with his credintials?

That's a good point. The issue is though, how good can Torre be with a 60-80 million payroll, in contrast to the Yankees payroll.

There won't be A-Rod. There won't be Jeter, etc etc.

Valiant
10-08-2007, 10:57 PM
Who wouldnt want a manager with his credintials?


Unless we spend 160million dollars then no..

Silock
10-08-2007, 10:57 PM
No. Girardi.

Seriously? Why?

Ari Chi3fs
10-08-2007, 11:03 PM
I don't think Torre would do well with a low payroll team. Besides, he doesn't seem like a good motivating coach. He sits on his ass too much. He doesn't impress me.

I would rather have Don Mattingly.

Deberg_1990
10-08-2007, 11:03 PM
That's a good point. The issue is though, how good can Torre be with a 60-80 million payroll, in contrast to the Yankees payroll.

There won't be A-Rod. There won't be Jeter, etc etc.


Actually, he won all his titles from like what? 96-2000. The Yankees havent won a Title since then....

That was before the Yankees started hiring all the free agent mercenaries.

Basileus777
10-08-2007, 11:08 PM
2001- incredibly painful failure
2002 -failure
2003 -failure
2004 -horrible choke failure
2005 -failure
2006 -failure
2007 -failure

That's enough for a guy who has had the best players and highest payroll in MLB. He cannot get the job done and all his affable disinterest has worn off. Good bye, Joe and thanks for the memories. They were incredibly special, but that was long ago.

You can have him.

'Hamas' Jenkins
10-08-2007, 11:14 PM
No Cardinal fans in here. The dude was a disaster with St. Louis, and his other stops before that. He rides the hell out of his bullpen, and will kill guys like Soria.

'Hamas' Jenkins
10-08-2007, 11:15 PM
Actually, he won all his titles from like what? 96-2000. The Yankees havent won a Title since then....

That was before the Yankees started hiring all the free agent mercenaries.

Bill Parcells is really knowledgeable about this. I believe Stick Mitchell is the guy who was responsible for cultivating their farm system (Jeter, Posada, Rivera, etc.)

Bill Parcells
10-08-2007, 11:17 PM
He's gonna retire, he's almost 70 years old and has been under a lot of stress and pressure. I hope he comes back, I always liked him. he was never the same coaching wise after Zimmer left though.

kcfanintitanhell
10-08-2007, 11:19 PM
I would rather have Don Mattingly.

I think you have just mentioned the new Yankees manager.

Dr. Facebook Fever
10-08-2007, 11:20 PM
I'd be for this.

Frazod
10-08-2007, 11:22 PM
This tool couldn't win shit for the past six years with a billion dollar payroll and you guys want him managing for Captain Low-Low-Prices?

No thanks.

Coach
10-08-2007, 11:32 PM
I think that Pendelton guy from Atlanta would be a good choice, me thinks.

Sam Hall
10-08-2007, 11:35 PM
Terry Pendleton or Joe Girardi.

alnorth
10-08-2007, 11:46 PM
Meh, I'm apathetic. The manager of a baseball team is by far the most overrated, irrelevant, and powerless coach/manager of all the major sports, especially in the AL. In baseball you live and die by your general manager and payroll.

The difference between the perfect batting order and the worst possible batting order is about 3 or 4 games in an entire season (and thats comparing the extremes, realistically, a "bad" manager wont put up the worst possible batting order), almost none of the game is scripted, its players making the plays they have been practicing independantly for decades. When he's not making pitching decisions, he's a highly paid caretaker who tries to resolve disputes and fix problems in the clubhouse.

All you need is a guy who wont destroy your pitching staff, so as long as Dayton doesnt hire a complete dips*** with no people skills, I'm fine with it. I'm more interested in winter trades and where our offense will come from than who will be the manager.

Ari Chi3fs
10-08-2007, 11:53 PM
Don Mattingly is the only Yankee that I have ever liked.

I respect Jeter. But I really liked Mattingly, when I was a kid. Total class act.

Extra Point
10-08-2007, 11:55 PM
Passing on Frand White means alot of revenue lost for the Royals. Since Split won't have a job next year, he should be the pitching coach.

That would be a draw, in and of itself.

a1na2
10-08-2007, 11:55 PM
He lost the playoffs this year, the guy is a loser!!! ;)

I wouldn't want him around, that would surely signal the end of his career.

Extra Point
10-08-2007, 11:57 PM
Don Mattingly is the only Yankee that I have ever liked.

I respect Jeter. But I really liked Mattingly, when I was a kid. Total class act.
The jerk exposed himself on the Plaza. Yeah, class act, alright!

BillyDaleClanton
10-08-2007, 11:57 PM
Cito Gaston is my choice. Most underappreciated manager ever.

ClevelandBronco
10-08-2007, 11:59 PM
He's won 4 World Series...?

Not recently.

alnorth
10-08-2007, 11:59 PM
Passing on Frand White means alot of revenue lost for the Royals. Since Split won't have a job next year, he should be the pitching coach.

That would be a draw, in and of itself.

I'd be fine with this, even though White is apparently a longshot. He's basically proven in the minors that he's not a complete idiot, he can manage people well, and see my first post in this thread for what I think of the "best" managers. If he will help sell tickets without injuring some arms, fine. Get it over with, and tell me which bat we are buying this winter with Sweeney's money.

a1na2
10-09-2007, 12:07 AM
Passing on Frand White means alot of revenue lost for the Royals. Since Split won't have a job next year, he should be the pitching coach.

That would be a draw, in and of itself.

Who is FranD White?

Ari Chi3fs
10-09-2007, 12:10 AM
The jerk exposed himself on the Plaza. Yeah, class act, alright!

What is this about?

BWillie
10-09-2007, 12:12 AM
I want Jose Lima. Ha. Seriously, he is a good motivator. Upbeat guy, can relate to all the dominicans and what not. He would be like a Kansas City Ozzie Guillen except he would call people fags a little less

Extra Point
10-09-2007, 12:13 AM
I'd be fine with this, even though White is apparently a longshot. He's basically proven in the minors that he's not a complete idiot, he can manage people well, and see my first post in this thread for what I think of the "best" managers. If he will help sell tickets without injuring some arms, fine. Get it over with, and tell me which bat we are buying this winter with Sweeney's money.

Damon.

Extra Point
10-09-2007, 12:14 AM
What is this about?

It's over 20 years ago, and nobody remembers.

Jayhawkerman2001
10-09-2007, 01:28 AM
**** NO!!! We dont want that big nosed idiot here at all!!!

Ebolapox
10-09-2007, 01:32 AM
I want Jose Lima. Ha. Seriously, he is a good motivator. Upbeat guy, can relate to all the dominicans and what not. He would be like a Kansas City Ozzie Guillen except he would call people Rump Rangers a little less

he'd give all of the players' wives herpes.

Dylan
10-09-2007, 01:41 AM
Joe Torre is a class act, as always. I'll miss him. It'll will be hard to see him go.

There's plenty of blame to go around and it starts with the pitching. The Yankees haven't had enough pitching to win since 2001.

The Yankees gaves us a wonderful and thrilling summer of baseball. Great comeback to get into the playoffs. Cheers to Joe Torre.

Joe Torre's Record
12 Seasons in New York
Record: 1,173 Wins -767 Loses
Post Season: 76 Wins - 47 Loses
4 100-Win Seasons
10 Division Titles
4 World Series Titles


This time Cleveland deserved it. Now -- We're all rooting for Cleveland to just beat the Red Socks!

Ari Chi3fs
10-09-2007, 01:45 AM
I wouldn't mind seeing the Indians win the series. In fact, my son and I went to the last three games of the Royals season... so to see Cleveland win it all would be a cool thing.

F
uck the Rockies from DENVER, and the Diamondbacks, both expansion teams who have made it to playoffs more times than Royals in past 20 years.

chagrin
10-09-2007, 06:15 AM
I'm no expert but Girardi took a low payroll team to the brink of the playoffs and they probably still would be competitive now, Torre hasn't won anything in 7 years and can't seem to motivate those guys to rally in the playoffs - that's not a good sign.

Silock
10-09-2007, 07:18 AM
I'm no expert but Girardi took a low payroll team to the brink of the playoffs and they probably still would be competitive now, Torre hasn't won anything in 7 years and can't seem to motivate those guys to rally in the playoffs - that's not a good sign.

So a guy that barely missed the playoffs is better than a guy that's won 4 world series and has an outstanding post and regular season record? And oh no... 7 years without a WS! How long has Bobby Cox gone without a World Series? How long did La Russa go between World Series wins?

Don't get me wrong -- I wouldn't mind Girardi. But a better manager than Torre?

Bill Parcells
10-09-2007, 07:31 AM
I'm no expert but Girardi took a low payroll team to the brink of the playoffs and they probably still would be competitive now, Torre hasn't won anything in 7 years and can't seem to motivate those guys to rally in the playoffs - that's not a good sign.
Girardi turned down the Cubs job because I think he's being groomed to replace Torre with the Yankees. I would love to see him with the Yanks.

penchief
10-09-2007, 09:24 AM
It's over 20 years ago, and nobody remembers.

I don't remember because I have no idea what you are talking about either. Enlighten me because I've always thought Mattingly was a class act, too.

Sure-Oz
10-09-2007, 09:37 AM
Joe Torre was an excellent manager for the Cards

RockChalk
10-09-2007, 10:00 AM
Girardi turned down the Cubs job because I think he's being groomed to replace Torre with the Yankees. I would love to see him with the Yanks.

i was going to say the same thing. Girardi is going to the Yanks. Kiss that pipe dream goodbye Royals fans.

i personally see us going after Pendleton or Frank White. I'd be happy with either. THe Splitter as pitching coach would be fantastic

BigRedChief
10-09-2007, 10:15 AM
Joe Torre was an excellent manager for the Cards
And will be again if he leaves the Yanks and LaRussa leaves.

BigChiefFan
10-09-2007, 10:36 AM
I just hope the Royals get a damn good manager. Torre would be awesome.

StcChief
10-09-2007, 10:38 AM
Being an X-Cardinal will likely interview with Cardinals. when LaRusa goes to Seattle.

ROYC75
10-09-2007, 10:43 AM
I've always wanted Sweet Lou to come home.........

BigChiefFan
10-09-2007, 10:43 AM
Being an X-Cardinal will likely interview with Cardinals. when LaRusa goes to Seattle.
I'm sure Dayton will try and get an interview as well. At least I hope so.

MahiMike
10-09-2007, 10:44 AM
keep dreaming. Maybe get Heidi Klum as equipment manager too...)

Dylan
10-09-2007, 11:08 AM
I just hope the Royals get a damn good manager. Torre would be awesome.
"The Yankees lost more than just a series, more than just an era, but the steadiest hand and the sanest voice of the too-often self-defeating Steinbrenner era" ...

In a interview last night, Torre was asked, what had sustained him for 12 years of tremendous pressure and soaring success, he said, "What I try to do is make sense."

I'm hoping you do get him. How much more does one manager have to do to prove his success?

AustinChief
10-09-2007, 12:29 PM
What is Bobby Valentine up to these days?

'Hamas' Jenkins
10-09-2007, 12:32 PM
What is Bobby Valentine up to these days?

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/MG/190592~Mr-Baseball-Posters.jpg

StcChief
10-09-2007, 12:49 PM
keep dreaming. Maybe get Heidi Klum as equipment manager too...)

that would help attendance at the K....

tk13
10-09-2007, 01:04 PM
I don't know if Torre would be my first choice, but you could do worse. I'd guess Dayton is probably looking for somebody like him, a veteran guy who players respect.

Those Yankee teams he actually won with were the ones with the core group of players they brought up together, not the best team money could buy.

Girardi or Mattingly will probably get the Yankee job. I'm one of those people who isn't quite as high on Girardi as everyone else. He's good but I think a bit overhyped, maybe he'll prove me wrong. He seems to have a big ego, and it scares me that almost every single Marlins pitcher fell apart this year.

Alton deFlat
10-09-2007, 02:35 PM
Being an X-Cardinal will likely interview with Cardinals. when LaRusa goes to Seattle.

I haven't heard him mentioned... yet, but Girardi's name has been thrown around, if La Russa leaves. I've also heard Jose Oquendo and Terry Pendleton mentioned.

88TG88
10-09-2007, 02:39 PM
I don't know if Torre would be my first choice, but you could do worse. I'd guess Dayton is probably looking for somebody like him, a veteran guy who players respect.

Those Yankee teams he actually won with were the ones with the core group of players they brought up together, not the best team money could buy.

Girardi or Mattingly will probably get the Yankee job. I'm one of those people who isn't quite as high on Girardi as everyone else. He's good but I think a bit overhyped, maybe he'll prove me wrong. He seems to have a big ego, and it scares me that almost every single Marlins pitcher fell apart this year.
I think Stenbrenner said a while ago he was grooming Mattingly to take over the manager's spot one day

Sure-Oz
10-09-2007, 02:49 PM
The Yanks will name Frank White manager

DaWolf
10-09-2007, 03:28 PM
Sources indicate, however, the Royals have cooled on former Florida manager Joe Girardi as a candidate. They say Girardi expressed interest in the position but wanted to slow the process until learning what other managerial positions might become available.

Moore declined comment on Girardi as a potential candidate, but sources said the Royals are unwilling to serve as a fall-back option.


http://www.kansascity.com/sports/royals/story/308873.html

Love the way Dayton does business. Screw Girardi...

petegz28
10-09-2007, 04:23 PM
The Yanks will name Frank White manager


I curse you!!!!

May you never enjoy ice cream again!!!!!


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HypnotizedMonkey
10-09-2007, 04:34 PM
astros

Sure-Oz
10-09-2007, 04:41 PM
I curse you!!!!

May you never enjoy ice cream again!!!!!


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I just ate some ice cream and i have a tummy ache now, you bastard :cuss: :p

Sure-Oz
10-09-2007, 04:41 PM
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/royals/story/308873.html

Love the way Dayton does business. Screw Girardi...
Yeah i don't want us to be his backup plan, eff joe