Who to vote for?

[ferrarispider95]

Is there any non bias websites out there that lists the stance of each candidate?

I don't have the time to keep up with individual speeches, debates, or even interviews.

I have always voted in elections, but not always as an informed voter. There are several issues that would weigh strongly on my decision.

[Nightfyre]

Ron Paul
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[patteeu]

Try Project Vote Smart (http://www.vote-smart.org/election_president.php?dist=bio.php).

['Hamas' Jenkins]

www.ontheissues.org

[Taco John]

Is there any non bias websites out there that lists the stance of each candidate?

I don't have the time to keep up with individual speeches, debates, or even interviews.

I have always voted in elections, but not always as an informed voter. There are several issues that would weigh strongly on my decision.



What are your issues?

[patteeu]

What are your issues?

Based on ferrarispider95's body of work here in DC, his main political issues appear to be banning Chihuahuas (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?p=2957408#post2957408) and reforming policing practices (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?p=4225644#post4225644). And if his name doesn't give it away, he also shows (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?p=3067618#post3067618) an interest (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?p=3067629#post3067629) in high performance automobiles which appears apolitical on it's face.

Based on that, I'd say he's clearly a Ron Paul guy.

[Taco John]

Hard to argue with that logic. :)

[ferrarispider95]

www.ontheissues.org

Thanks, looks like an excellent site.

Actually, a lot of what I have read about Ron Paul on this site, got me interested in the next election.

I am looking for someone that is looking out for small businesses, has a good plan to pull out of the war, make a stand against illegal immigration, and of course tax relief.

[patteeu]

Thanks, looks like an excellent site.

Actually, a lot of what I have read about Ron Paul on this site, got me interested in the next election.

I am looking for someone that is looking out for small businesses, has a good plan to pull out of the war, make a stand against illegal immigration, and of course tax relief.

With the exception of the word "good" in your description, it really does sound like Ron Paul is your best bet. Tom Tancredo might be another option. Both of them can be found in the "and Others" section of that website.

[Taco John]

Thanks, looks like an excellent site.

Actually, a lot of what I have read about Ron Paul on this site, got me interested in the next election.

I am looking for someone that is looking out for small businesses, has a good plan to pull out of the war, make a stand against illegal immigration, and of course tax relief.



Here's a place that you can go if you'd like to learn more about Ron Paul's positions, from Ron Paul himself:

http://www.ronpaulaudio.com

[Molitoth]

Edit: soo many people to read about..

[Taco John]

What position do you not like, and why? Just curious.

[Molitoth]

Ron Paul


Ron Paul on Abortion = agree
Ron Paul on Budget & Economy = neutral
Ron Paul on Civil Rights = agree
Ron Paul on Corporations = neutral
Ron Paul on Crime = agree/disagree, (I am pro-death penalty)
Ron Paul on Drugs = strongly agree
Ron Paul on Education = strongly agree
Ron Paul on Energy & Oil = nuetral (I don't know what that stuff means)
Ron Paul on Environment = agree
Ron Paul on Families & Children = agree
Ron Paul on Foreign Policy = agree
Ron Paul on Government Reform = nuetral (I don't know what that stuff means)
Ron Paul on Gun Control = neutral
Ron Paul on Health Care = agree
Ron Paul on Homeland Security = agree
Ron Paul on Immigration = disagree (we don't need a fence on the mexican border, but we do need better border control in other ways.)
Ron Paul on Principles & Values = agree
Ron Paul on Tax Reform = agree
Ron Paul on Technology = strongly agree
Ron Paul on War & Peace = agree




I guess I do like Ron Paul.

[Molitoth]

I do like Obama's take on War and Peace.


Iraq War
Leave troops for protection of Americans & counterterrorism. (Sep 2007)
Hopes to remove all troops from Iraq by 2013, but no pledge. (Sep 2007)
Surge has not succeeded because it ignores political issues. (Sep 2007)
Tell people the truth: quickest is 1-2 brigades per month. (Sep 2007)
No good options in Iraq--just bad options & worse options. (Aug 2007)
Be as careful getting out as we were careless getting in. (Jul 2007)
Troops not dying in vain; but we need plans for success. (Jul 2007)
We live in a more dangerous world because of Bush's actions. (Jun 2007)
Case for war was weak, but people voted their best judgment. (Jun 2007)
War in Iraq is "dumb" but troops still need equipment. (Apr 2007)
Increase ground forces in Iraq to decrease troop rotations. (Apr 2007)
Open-ended Iraq occupation must end: no military solution. (Apr 2007)
Begin withdrawal May 1 2007; finish by March 31 2008. (Apr 2007)
Open dialogue with both Syria and Iran. (Apr 2007)
Withdraw gradually and keep some troops in Iraq region. (Mar 2007)
Iraq 2002: ill-conceived venture; 2007: waste of resources. (Feb 2007)
Longtime critic of Iraq war. (Nov 2006)
Saddam did not own and was not providing WMD to terrorists. (Oct 2004)
Initial military was extraordinarily successful in Iraq. (Oct 2004)
Invading Iraq was a bad strategic blunder. (Oct 2004)
We must make sure that Iraq is stable having gone in there. (Oct 2004)
Advance the training speed and get the reconstruction moving. (Oct 2004)
Democratizing Iraq will be more difficult than Afghanistan. (Oct 2004)
Never fudge numbers or shade the truth about war. (Jul 2004)
Set a new tone to internationalize the Iraqi reconstruction. (Jul 2004)
Iraq war was sincere but misguided, ideologically driven. (Jul 2004)
Not opposed to all wars, but opposed to the war in Iraq. (Jul 2004)
International voice in Iraq in exchange for debt forgiveness. (Jul 2004)
Mideast/Asia/Afghanistan
Deal with al Qaeda on Pakistan border, but not with nukes. (Aug 2007)
Get al Qaeda hiding in hills between Afghanistan & Pakistan. (Aug 2007)
Military action in Pakistan if we have actionable intel. (Aug 2007)
FactCheck: Yes, Obama said invade Pakistan to get al Qaeda. (Aug 2007)
Focus on battle in Afghanistan and root out al Qaeda. (Jun 2007)
Bush cracked down on some terrorists' financial networks. (Jun 2007)
Iraq has distracted us from Taliban in Afghanistan. (Apr 2007)
Iran with nuclear weapons is a profound security threat. (Apr 2007)
We are playing to Osama's plan for winning a war from a cave. (Oct 2006)
Terrorists are in Saudi Arabia, Syria, and Iran. (Oct 2004)
Problems with current Israeli policy. (Jul 2004)
Engage North Korea in 6-party talks. (Jul 2004)
Use moral authority to work towards Middle East peace. (Jul 2004)
Voting Record
Late to vote against war is not late to oppose war. (Jun 2007)
Spending on the Cold War relics should be for the veterans. (Jun 2007)
Would have voted no to authorize the President to go to war. (Jul 2004)
Voted YES on redeploying US troops out of Iraq by March 2008. (Mar 2007)
Voted NO on redeploying troops out of Iraq by July 2007. (Jun 2006)
Voted YES on investigating contract awards in Iraq & Afghanistan. (Nov 2005)

[Taco John]

Ron Paul


Ron Paul on Immigration = disagree (we don't need a fence on the mexican border, but we do need better border control in other ways.)




Just an FYI - Ron Paul doesn't want to build a fence. He wants to remove the incentives that cause illegal aliens to smuggle themselves into America. For instance, he wants to do away with birthright citizenship, and make the child's citizenship based on what the parent's citizenship is.

[Molitoth]

Just an FYI - Ron Paul doesn't want to build a fence. He wants to remove the incentives that cause illegal aliens to smuggle themselves into America. For instance, he wants to do away with birthright citizenship, and make the child's citizenship based on what the parent's citizenship is.


Voted YES on building a fence along the Mexican border. (Sep 2006

Ya, I mean its nothing that would make me not vote for him or anything... its just one of the few things I wouldn't have voted for.

So far I'm liking Ron Paul.

Usually once the candidates get narrowed down a bit, I usually start doing the minimal research to figure out the few whom I want to get more in depth with. Right now its looking like Obama or Paul.

[BucEyedPea]

I do like Obama's take on War and Peace.
He's not as anti-war as you should believe. He gave money to Lieberman to defeat Lamont. He is not against attacking Iran. He may not have voted on Iraq but he consistently continues to fund the war. He's only emphasizing an anti-war stand as it becomes increasingly unpopular to run for prez.

The Foreign Policy of Barack Obama (http://www.counterpunch.org/taylor06232007.html)

If you want to vote for a Dem that's antiwar it's Kucinich or Gravel.
I don't know Edward's stand or record on it.

[Taco John]

Ya, I mean its nothing that would make me not vote for him or anything... its just one of the few things I wouldn't have voted for.

So far I'm liking Ron Paul.

Usually once the candidates get narrowed down a bit, I usually start doing the minimal research to figure out the few whom I want to get more in depth with. Right now its looking like Obama or Paul.



You're right... He did vote for it. His explination was that he wasn't enthusiastic about the vote, but things have gotten to the point where he feels that something has to be done. His first choice is to change the policy, as it would be a lot cheaper and more effective, but since he can't get anyone in Washington to even talk about a policy shift, he did what he could to stem the tide.

He has some very grave concerns about not only the symbol the fence presents, but more practically, the amount of property that would have to be seized from Americans to get it done. He's hugely against the recent imminent domain rulings, and is very interested in appointing federal judges who have a better understanding of the constitution than the ones currently on the bench who ruled in favor of the government on this issue.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

I suggest that anyone who uses "ontheissues" click on the hypertext of each question after you finish and look at your compatibility just to ensure that you actually answered it in the way you wanted to.

[CaliforniaAlbanach]

Would't it be fun to have a Mormon Prez?

[KC Jones]

www.ontheissues.org

Great site, and they have one of those candidate selectors on there too. I ended up with Ron Paul as my number one, with Bill Richardson second.

[SNR]

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[barry_smilez20]

i vote president schwarzenegger

[BucEyedPea]

Ahnie = another liberal hawk

[mlyonsd]

Ahnie = another liberal hawk

Psst. Constantly labeling = boring

[BucEyedPea]

Ahnie proposed state health care for Cali no?
Boring or not. He's a liberal. Sorry but it's true.

[mlyonsd]

Ahnie proposed state health care for Cali no?
Boring or not. He's a liberal. Sorry but it's true.

You just can't help youself can you?

[mlyonsd]

Ahnie proposed state health care for Cali no?
Boring or not. He's a liberal. Sorry but it's true.

BTW, if I were to play your game I'd consider Ahrnie more a realist than a true politician.

You probably might want to look up "realist".

[BucEyedPea]

No he's not a realist to a true Pub since he does not believe in limited govt or much of the platform of the GOP. His own wife defended him to her left/liberal pals saying he didn't. He's a bona fide RINO with family history going back to the Nazis. "Realist" is just a phony claim to get others to sell out. It means no integrity. They don't stand for anything at all..except more govt and more socialism. Proves most everything today is left. He's a realist to you because you apparently believe in that mode of governing. You believe govt should centally plan an energy alternative for instance.

The so-called realists, RINOs and NCs, worked to marginalize McClintock in that Cali election because they do not want real conservatives in power. I watched and read about that whole thing. This marginalization began post 9/11 and continues...kicking out the traditional right from think-tanks, media and govt.

As for labeling...you might try the Rove vs the "Dem" congress for the same thought. I'm sure there has been some "anti-American," "anti-patriotic," " appeaser" "surrender monkey" and "liberal" labeling going on by others from the past here.

[CaliforniaAlbanach]

i vote president schwarzenegger

Can Johnny foreigners get the top job?

[patteeu]

He's a bona fide RINO with family history going back to the Nazis.

I was following your train of thought until it lurched off the track.