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KC Jones
11-11-2007, 07:11 PM
I didn't get to see the game, other than a few seconds in a hotel lobby. I saw that Croyle was in and I saw 2 plays. So how did the kid look?

dshyne101
11-11-2007, 07:13 PM
he looked good he seemed 2 be very comfortable behind that bad ass oline we have. he threw the ball much better than damon he all around just did better than damon.

Simplex3
11-11-2007, 07:13 PM
Like he hasn't been playing and didn't get any snaps in practice. He still wasn't any worse than Horrid.

siberian khatru
11-11-2007, 07:14 PM
I thought he showed good poise and he got rid of the ball quickly. When the protection breaks down, he can backpedal and throw a strike. That avoided sacks and kept at least one drive alive more than once.

One of the biggest problems, it seemed, was he hasn't established rapport with the receivers yet. They need to get to know him better in game situations.

I'd maybe give him a C.

NUMBER7
11-11-2007, 07:14 PM
17/30 162 yards, 5.4 yards average, 1 int no TDs

Pablo
11-11-2007, 07:16 PM
Better than Huard.

He had a few wild throws, one that turned into an INT, but he distributed the ball pretty evenly and Bowe picked the wrong time to drop a ball in the EZ.
He looked like a QB that doesn't get much gametime, but has great potential and quick decision making coupled with a strong, fairly accurate arm.

He looked like he shouldn't have been sitting on a bench all season.

blueballs
11-11-2007, 07:17 PM
They had no shots in the stands of her

BigMeatballDave
11-11-2007, 07:18 PM
It was nice to see a Chiefs QB throw a dump-off that was actually on target.

Deberg_1990
11-11-2007, 07:18 PM
So how did the kid look?

Blonde hair, kinda ruggish 70's throwback cut.

About 6' 2" tall, kinda skinny.


The chicks will dig him.

NUMBER7
11-11-2007, 07:19 PM
They had no shots in the stands of her

I was just sitting down to watch the video from today...no longer needed now...Thanks.

Coach
11-11-2007, 07:20 PM
I thought he showed good poise and he got rid of the ball quickly. When the protection breaks down, he can backpedal and throw a strike. That avoided sacks and kept at least one drive alive more than once.

One of the biggest problems, it seemed, was he hasn't established rapport with the receivers yet. They need to get to know him better in game situations.

I'd maybe give him a C.

Sure, and I can understand that becuase of the lack of practice time with them, combined with gameday experience. I do expect that to be improved as the season goes on, provided if he gets to start here on out.

RustShack
11-11-2007, 07:20 PM
He looked pretty good compared to Huard. He should only improve, especially after he gets a chemistry built with his line, rb's, and wr's.

Count Alex's Losses
11-11-2007, 07:20 PM
His arm made a noticeable difference. He made some impressive sideline throws off his back foot.

Coach
11-11-2007, 07:20 PM
17/30 162 yards, 5.4 yards average, 1 int no TDs

And the numbers could be misleading. The offense looked completely different, in a good way, when he came in. See Jacksonville game and the Chicago game for examples.

Otter
11-11-2007, 07:20 PM
Tough to tell till there's a whole game to evaluate him but the arm strength is night and day compared to Huard. He's better than Huard, that I'm confident.

Deberg_1990
11-11-2007, 07:22 PM
17/30 162 yards, 5.4 yards average, 1 int no TDs

Ironically, Huard had a 5.5 YPC avg. :)

RustShack
11-11-2007, 07:22 PM
His screen to Priest was pretty sick, something Huard could of never done. Huard woulda been sacked on that play for sure.

blueballs
11-11-2007, 07:22 PM
Indy is baptism by fire

siberian khatru
11-11-2007, 07:23 PM
His screen to Priest was pretty sick, something Huard could of never done. Huard woulda been sacked on that play for sure.

Yeah, I remember that play. That was outstanding.

kstater
11-11-2007, 07:23 PM
He threw a bunch of wobbly ducks.

NUMBER7
11-11-2007, 07:25 PM
And the numbers could be misleading. The offense looked completely different, in a good way, when he came in. See Jacksonville game and the Chicago game for examples.

Coach, I agree, I do not care about numbers...show me some scoring. I guess I was so built up to see the kid I was hoping he was the second coming of Brett Favre like so many on this board have said. I hope if he does start next week they adjust the system to his strengths.

Easy 6
11-11-2007, 07:28 PM
He had a dozen or more passes that Huard could only pull of on XBOX.

The tempo COMPLETELY changed with him in there, he tends to rely on his arm a bit too much with the back foot throws...but he also showed us ALL of the things we've been missing...mobility, a GREAT quick release & an ability to hit any spot on the field from anywhere on the field.

The entire O looked different, it gave the D a lift for awhile to.

This is the Point of no Return.

KC Jones
11-11-2007, 07:34 PM
I guess I was so built up to see the kid I was hoping he was the second coming of Brett Favre like so many on this board have said. I hope if he does start next week they adjust the system to his strengths.

Well, in Favre first action he was 0 - 4 w/ 2 INTs and 0 TDs.

Seriously, if you want to develop a young QB you need to give him time and let him make some stupid mistakes.

KcMizzou
11-11-2007, 07:38 PM
He had a dozen or more passes that Huard could only pull of on XBOX.

The tempo COMPLETELY changed with him in there, he tends to rely on his arm a bit too much with the back foot throws...but he also showed us ALL of the things we've been missing...mobility, a GREAT quick release & an ability to hit any spot on the field from anywhere on the field.

The entire O looked different, it gave the D a lift for awhile to.

This is the Point of no Return.Yeah... Croyle looked sharp. Throwing darts...

He was excellent on the short passes. He sucked on the long passes toward the end of the game, because Denver knew we had to throw them.

He threaded the needle several times though...

There's no excuse to run Huard back out there now.

RustShack
11-11-2007, 07:43 PM
His touch will come, and the WR's will get used to how he throws it. Remember, they are used to Huards puss balls, now the are catching the opposite. They arn't used to the ball being in easy to catch places either.

Garcia Bronco
11-11-2007, 07:44 PM
I thought he did alright...he was hitting the back short on more than a few, but those are good low risk throws.

Easy 6
11-11-2007, 07:45 PM
There's no excuse to run Huard back out there now.

They wouldnt DARE...would they???

NUMBER7
11-11-2007, 07:46 PM
Well, in Favre first action he was 0 - 4 w/ 2 INTs and 0 TDs.

Seriously, if you want to develop a young QB you need to give him time and let him make some stupid mistakes.

You are absolutely correct. I was hoping he was going to step it up today. The problem is many fold...most of it lies at the system the Chef's are running. Solari has to go...and the Germ needs to grow a pair and learn clock management. We need to have a solid draft and hope Croyle does not go the way of Blackledge.

siberian khatru
11-11-2007, 07:46 PM
I thought he did alright...he was hitting the back short on more than a few, but those are good low risk throws.

Compare him to Cutler. What do you think? Similar?

FAX
11-11-2007, 07:49 PM
Coach, I agree, I do not care about numbers...show me some scoring. I guess I was so built up to see the kid I was hoping he was the second coming of Brett Favre like so many on this board have said. I hope if he does start next week they adjust the system to his strengths.

I was sure pulling for him. It was good to see him move the chains. Lenny said that a couple of the passes could have been caught ... I think he was referring to the pass to Bowe and maybe one to Webb.

One of the interesting aspects of all this is (assuming that Croyle actually does start) whether or not the playcalling will change a little. Theoretically, we could open up the offense a bit more with a stronger arm behind center. We could also, perhaps, call a roll-out or two to help the oline with protection.

FAX

Sure-Oz
11-11-2007, 07:51 PM
17/30 162 yards, 5.4 yards average, 1 int no TDs
Bowe dropped a sure handed TD, that was a beauty of a pass from Croyle.

NUMBER7
11-11-2007, 07:52 PM
Compare him to Cutler. What do you think? Similar?

I would have taken the 2 touchdowns today.

Cutler's regular-season debut was a 23-20 home loss to the Seattle Seahawks on a frigid night on December 3. Cutler completed 10 of 21 passes for 143 yards with two touchdowns and two interceptions, one returned by Darryl Tapp for a touchdown. Cutler gained some redemption in the fourth quarter with a 71-yard TD pass to Brandon Marshall, also a rookie, which tied the game 20-20. However Cutler did not get the chance to complete the comeback as the Seahawks would kick the game-winning field goal in the game's final seconds. (Wikipedia)

Coach
11-11-2007, 07:52 PM
Bowe dropped a sure handed TD, that was a beauty of a pass from Croyle.

He could had dived for it....

Sure-Oz
11-11-2007, 07:52 PM
btw-jeff webb needs to be cut, put in a guy that can CATCH

dj56dt58
11-11-2007, 07:52 PM
I think he has the tools to be one of the best QBs in the league in 5-6 yrs...if we let him

L.A. Chieffan
11-11-2007, 07:53 PM
Cutler sucks, but my Dad says he's gonna be good one day.

Sure-Oz
11-11-2007, 07:53 PM
He could had dived for it....
That pass was off his hands, ridiculous

KC Jones
11-11-2007, 07:53 PM
Bowe dropped a sure handed TD, that was a beauty of a pass from Croyle.

So his amended stats are:

17*/30 162* yards, 5.4* yards average, 1 int 0* TDs

:D

After seeing the score I'm kinda glad I missed it. Having not seen the game I'm not feeling as bummed as I usually do after a loss.

Bob Dole
11-11-2007, 07:54 PM
Bowe dropped a sure handed TD, that was a beauty of a pass from Croyle.

If you ignore that whole "out of Bowe's reach" detail, it sure was.

NUMBER7
11-11-2007, 07:55 PM
If you ignore that whole "out of Bowe's reach" detail, it sure was.


ROFL Classic.

RustShack
11-11-2007, 07:55 PM
Now we just need some BOBBY SIPPIO!

Buehler445
11-11-2007, 07:55 PM
I had to be on a plane when the game was on. Damn it. I can't believe we got smoked by a bad team in arrowhead.

I'm glad to hear Brodie got PT though. Hopefully Huard never sees the field again. I'm glad to hear that he did better than Huard. Herm should have absolutely no reason to bail on the kid now.

NUMBER7
11-11-2007, 07:56 PM
Now we just need some BOBBY SIPPIO!

Yeah Baby! EK is hurt again it is time to get someone who can spread the defense on a deep route.

jjjayb
11-11-2007, 07:59 PM
Things he did that Huard can't seem to do:

1. Moved to avoid pressure rather than diving to the ground.

2. Looked at more than one receiver.

3. Looked off defenders.

4. Pump faked.

5. Threw deep.

6. Found the open guy because of number 2.

Things Huard did that Croyle can't.

Ummm, I'm at a loss here. Can't think of anything.

Pablo
11-11-2007, 08:00 PM
Things Huard did that Croyle can't.

Ummm, I'm at a loss here. Can't think of anything.Assume the fetal position with amazing consistency.

KcMizzou
11-11-2007, 08:01 PM
Cutler sucks, but my Dad says he's gonna be good one day.LMAO

KC2004
11-11-2007, 08:01 PM
Things he did that Huard can't seem to do:

1. Moved to avoid pressure rather than diving to the ground.

2. Looked at more than one receiver.

3. Looked off defenders.

4. Pump faked.

5. Threw deep.

6. Found the open guy because of number 2.

Things Huard did that Croyle can't.

Ummm, I'm at a loss here. Can't think of anything.

Pretty much it. I'm gonna use the curse word "Rebuilding" now!

Sure-Oz
11-11-2007, 08:04 PM
If you ignore that whole "out of Bowe's reach" detail, it sure was.
Either im blind but it seemed lik Bowe couldve caught it in the endzone in the corner. I was at the game, i never did catch teh replay and it seemed other fans there thought he could've caught it.

cdcox
11-11-2007, 08:05 PM
Better than Peyton Manning.

Pablo
11-11-2007, 08:05 PM
Either im blind but it seemed lik Bowe couldve caught it in the endzone in the corner. I was at the game, i never did catch teh replay and it seemed other fans there thought he could've caught it. He could have. Off his fingertips..

Coach
11-11-2007, 08:05 PM
He could have. Off his fingertips..

Thus why I said he could had dived for it.

siberian khatru
11-11-2007, 08:06 PM
Either im blind but it seemed lik Bowe couldve caught it in the endzone in the corner. I was at the game, i never did catch teh replay and it seemed other fans there thought he could've caught it.

It was off his fingertips. If he had laid out for it, he could've got more hand on it but it would've been a spectacular, extremely difficult catch.

I would never say that he "dropped it."

Pablo
11-11-2007, 08:06 PM
Better than Peyton Manning.He speaks the truth..at least for the first quarter of tonight's game.

Sure-Oz
11-11-2007, 08:07 PM
It was off his fingertips. If he had laid out for it, he could've got more hand on it but it would've been a spectacular, extremely difficult catch.

I would never say that he "dropped it."
Ok, my bad if it was a hard catch, in normal speed from the club seats it looked catchable. I'll give Bowe slack then, i thought he just missed it.

Pablo
11-11-2007, 08:10 PM
Ok, my bad if it was a hard catch, in normal speed from the club seats it looked catchable. I'll give Bowe slack then, i thought he just missed it.It would have been a difficult catch, but a reciever of his caliber could have made the catch. I guess he was used to catching wobble-turds dropped out of the sky like burlap sacks full of rice instead of playable balls.

The Brodie to Bowe connection could be dangerous if we get an OC that likes to switch things up every now and then.

siberian khatru
11-11-2007, 08:11 PM
The Brodie to Bowe connection could be dangerous if we get an OC that likes to switch things up every now and then.

Watch what happens if Bowe has a QB who can hit him in stride. He'll be TO.

RustShack
11-11-2007, 08:11 PM
If you want to talk about someone who can't catch, talk about Kris Wilson.

Coach
11-11-2007, 08:12 PM
If you want to talk about someone who can't catch, talk about Kris Wilson.

Or who can't hold on to the football. God, that fumble still makes me upset.

Wasn't he one of the receivers who fumbled it during the Bears game as well, when Croyle came in, or am I thinking it was someone else?

Pablo
11-11-2007, 08:13 PM
Watch what happens if Bowe has a QB who can hit him in stride. He'll be TO.Hopefully he'll be the version of T.O. that shuts the f*ck up and does his job, instead of being a primadonna crybaby. I hate that guy, but he is a very good reciever.

KC Jones
11-11-2007, 08:19 PM
If you want to talk about someone who can't catch, talk about Kris Wilson.

The Wilson fumble was one of the two plays I saw. I think the other was Priest dragging someone for 5 yards for a 1 yard gain.

StcChief
11-11-2007, 08:27 PM
And the numbers could be misleading. The offense looked completely different, in a good way, when he came in. See Jacksonville game and the Chicago game for examples.
agreed it was nite and day different....

we watched without sound and it was like who is the kid moving the football... very impressive and why did it take this long.

I predicated week 8.

movinbones
11-11-2007, 08:28 PM
Assume the fetal position with amazing consistency.
ROFL

Garcia Bronco
11-11-2007, 08:33 PM
I think you saw two potential great receivers in Bowe and Marshall. They're huge.

trndobrd
11-11-2007, 08:34 PM
Things he did that Huard can't seem to do:

1. Moved to avoid pressure rather than diving to the ground.

2. Looked at more than one receiver.

3. Looked off defenders.

4. Pump faked.

5. Threw deep.

6. Found the open guy because of number 2.

Things Huard did that Croyle can't.

Ummm, I'm at a loss here. Can't think of anything.


Huard doesn't overthrow receivers on deep routes.

Iowanian
11-11-2007, 08:35 PM
He looked like a young QB with a great arm, who is making some mistakes and doesn't have himself quite in sync with the WRs.

He throws a pretty ball...made some nice throws, and didn't look to be throwing into triple coverage, actually made a pump fake and looked off the safety a time or two....

I'm not convinced he's great, but given the alternative, I'll be happy to watch a young QB struggle with at least the potential to improve vs a 34 year old never was throwing ducks.

Let the Kids play......all of them.

Pablo
11-11-2007, 08:36 PM
Huard doesn't overthrow receivers on deep routes.This is true..if Huard attempts a pass over 35 yards, him arm self-destructs and explodes into a dust cloud.

headsnap
11-11-2007, 08:37 PM
It was off his fingertips. If he had laid out for it, he could've got more hand on it but it would've been a spectacular, extremely difficult catch.
Bowe ain't no Snoop Minnis... :)

chop
11-11-2007, 08:38 PM
It was off his fingertips. If he had laid out for it, he could've got more hand on it but it would've been a spectacular, extremely difficult catch.

I would never say that he "dropped it."

I listened to the game on the internet and Len Dawson said that Bowe should have caught the pass.

AZORChiefFan
11-11-2007, 08:42 PM
Be nice to see what he can do when they can still run the ball. Or at least threaten with the run. That one screen pass to Priest was something of beauty. So was the pass to I think Webb on the sideline.

His passes definitely have more zip.

Needs to work on touch especially in the 'red zone'. Couple of those passes to TG that were batted down wouldn't have been if they had more air under them.

Threw off his back foot here and there which isn't good but he has the arm strength to at least get it close to the receiver.

FAX
11-11-2007, 08:43 PM
I listened to the game on the internet and Len Dawson said that Bowe should have caught the pass.

Exactly. Lenny said that Bowe should have had it. He also said that he was planning on flogging Solari senseless with his own wiener after the game.

FAX

Pablo
11-11-2007, 08:43 PM
I listened to the game on the internet and Len Dawson said that Bowe should have caught the pass.Bowe and Tony G are the only two recievers on our offense that would have had a chance, that being said, I agree with Len. Big time players make big plays at big moments.

If you can touch it, you can catch it.

AZORChiefFan
11-11-2007, 08:47 PM
Exactly. Lenny said that Bowe should have had it. He also said that he was planning on flogging Solari senseless with his own wiener after the game.

FAX
Dear gawd what an awful image. Lil Lenny sez stay down bitch!!!!!

blueballs
11-11-2007, 08:55 PM
links at the top for more detail
http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/boxscore?gameId=271111012

morphius
11-11-2007, 09:02 PM
I think he has to work on his touch and allowing some of the guys to go up and make catches, but it sure was a lot more fun to watch when he came in.

AZORChiefFan
11-11-2007, 09:20 PM
Looked better than either St. Eli or St. Peyton - so far.

GarySpFc
11-11-2007, 10:02 PM
A friend said Denver was in a prevent defense the whole time Brodie was in the game. I don't believe that for a second. Your thoughts?

gta0012
11-11-2007, 10:04 PM
IMO we won't be able to judge croyle till he plays a full game. I think he showed promise. Made a couple rookie-like mistakes though. We will see in time.

AZORChiefFan
11-11-2007, 10:04 PM
A friend said Denver was in a prevent defense the whole time Brodie was in the game. I don't believe that for a second. Your thoughts?
Either it was the O line or Denver sure blitzes quite a bit in prevent.

Extra Point
11-11-2007, 10:20 PM
Like he hasn't been playing and didn't get any snaps in practice. He still wasn't any worse than Horrid.

He wasn't any better, either.

Coach
11-11-2007, 10:21 PM
He wasn't any better, either.

But the potentional is there, unlike Huard.

MadMax
11-11-2007, 10:22 PM
He wasn't any better, either.


You're clueless and FOS.... also very unrealistic.

Extra Point
11-11-2007, 10:23 PM
Potentional. Is that like intentional potential, but not as almighty eatin' as a potentatoe?

Extra Point
11-11-2007, 10:24 PM
But then again, they must raise some sweet potentatoes in Alabama.

AZORChiefFan
11-11-2007, 10:25 PM
Looked better than either St. Eli or St. Peyton - so far.
May have spoken too soon.
Damn you Peyton.
But good that you are beating the Dolts.

MadMax
11-11-2007, 10:27 PM
WOW, some of you guys think Croyle should come in off the bench after never having started a game in the NFL and just light it up?????? GET ****IN REAL!!!!

Pablo
11-11-2007, 10:29 PM
He looked very respectable. The tempo on offense was night and day when he came in.

KcMizzou
11-11-2007, 10:30 PM
WOW, some of you guys think Croyle should come in off the bench after never having started a game in the NFL and just light it up?????? GET ****IN REAL!!!!Well, hell yes... what else am I paying him for?

Extra Point
11-11-2007, 10:30 PM
Croyle will be holding a clipboard in 10 years, if he's lucky. I'm not sucking on Huard, but the way we run our offense, Hank Stram should be embarassed.

MadMax
11-11-2007, 10:31 PM
Well, hell yes... what else am I paying him for?



ROFL :deevee: :p Stingy bastard give him mo money then.

KcMizzou
11-11-2007, 10:33 PM
ROFL :deevee: :p Stingy bastard give him mo money then.Mo money... Mo problems.

MadMax
11-11-2007, 10:35 PM
Mo money... Mo problems.



True, but he has the same bbq grill I do ( saw it on HBO ) he needs better. Oh yea he also has a high maintenance woman for sure... :p

OctoberFart
11-11-2007, 11:20 PM
He looked good. Although most QB's do in mop up duty and they also look good usually right away until there are a couple game films on them. I would say he played a B game.