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smittysbar
11-20-2007, 05:22 PM
Wesley stated the game Sunday. If we are in transition and trying to get the young guys time on the field why did he start? He didn't last long and Pollard was back in, but what gives?

Count Alex's Wins
11-20-2007, 05:23 PM
Pollard sucks.

Deberg_1990
11-20-2007, 05:24 PM
Pollard looks like a future special teams specialist.

smittysbar
11-20-2007, 05:25 PM
Pollard sucks.

I don't think so. But he will keep getting better the more time he gets. Remember Page had tons of time last year, Pollard has some catching up to do.

kcchiefsus
11-20-2007, 05:26 PM
Are you sure Wesley started? Because I seem to remember Pollard making several plays including a key stop on 3rd down. It seems to me that I saw Pollard on the field more than Wesley. Bernard Pollard is also still listed as the starter on the kcchiefs.com depth chart.

smittysbar
11-20-2007, 05:27 PM
Yes they said Wesley started but came out for some reason, and Pollard went in. Not sure if Wesley was hurt or shaken up.

beer bacon
11-20-2007, 05:28 PM
Are you sure Wesley started? Because I seem to remember Pollard making several plays including a key stop on 3rd down. It seems to me that I saw Pollard on the field more than Wesley. Bernard Pollard is also still listed as the starter on the kcchiefs.com depth chart.

Wesley started, got injured, and Pollard came in and had a really good game.

DMAC
11-20-2007, 05:28 PM
Pollard sucks.That may be...but I think he's still better than Wesley. He just needs to get some big hits going. He has lost the "bonecrusher" for now.

kcchiefsus
11-20-2007, 05:28 PM
Pollard looks like a future special teams specialist.

Give me a ****ing break. A guy who is in his first year starting struggles a little bit and he is already a bust? You sound like all of the idiots out there who already labeled Croyle a bust.

kcchiefsus
11-20-2007, 05:29 PM
Yes they said Wesley started but came out for some reason, and Pollard went in. Not sure if Wesley was hurt or shaken up.

He hurt his knee on that 38 yard pass to Wayne.

Count Alex's Wins
11-20-2007, 05:29 PM
That may be...but I think he's still better than Wesley. He just needs to get some big hits going. He has lost the "bonecrusher" for now.

He's not. Wesley has hit more people this year than Pollard has. Pollard has one hit all year, and it came at the end of a 17-yard run.

Pollard sucks.

DMAC
11-20-2007, 05:31 PM
Pollard sucks.Well, everybody sucks except Huard, according to you. So, your opinions mean squat.

Reerun_KC
11-20-2007, 05:31 PM
Pollard needs to move to LB.... Probably would make a good hybird type player...

Maybe try that???

Reerun_KC
11-20-2007, 05:32 PM
Well, everybody sucks except Huard, according to you. So, your opinions mean squat.


ROFL

Count Alex's Wins
11-20-2007, 05:32 PM
Give me a ****ing break. A guy who is in his first year starting struggles a little bit and he is already a bust? You sound like all of the idiots out there who already labeled Croyle a bust.

Here's the issue with Pollard. He has shown absolutely nothing. Zilch. Name one play he's made this year. One. Can you think of anything other than that gift interception Carson Palmer threw him? I guess he had a tipped pass in another game. Big whoop.

He's lousy. He takes bad angles. He whiffs on tackles. He doesn't make plays in coverage. He has a cutesy nickname, but hits ABSOLUTELY NO ONE.

He sucks.

Reerun_KC
11-20-2007, 05:37 PM
Here's the issue with Pollard. He has shown absolutely nothing. Zilch. Name one play he's made this year. One. Can you think of anything other than that gift interception Carson Palmer threw him? I guess he had a tipped pass in another game. Big whoop.

He's lousy. He takes bad angles. He whiffs on tackles. He doesn't make plays in coverage. He has a cutesy nickname, but hits ABSOLUTELY NO ONE.

He sucks.


So do vaccuum cleaners, but people still use them....

Deberg_1990
11-20-2007, 05:37 PM
Pollard sucks.

Unfortunately, so has Wesley for 8 years now. Id rather go with the kid and let him grow.

LOCOChief
11-20-2007, 05:38 PM
Pollard is a major disapointment. Constantly out of position against run and pass. He lost out there! Not a smart player at all. So to make up for it he tries to bring the wood and misses. But usually he nowhere around the ball. Funny thing is I thought he was going to be "the man" in the secondary. Looking back it was just wishful thinking I suppose. I feel better when Wesleys in. We have another need in the secondary this next draft IMO

kcchiefsus
11-20-2007, 05:38 PM
He's not. Wesley has hit more people this year than Pollard has. Pollard has one hit all year, and it came at the end of a 17-yard run.

Pollard sucks.

You are just as off on this as you were on the Huard vs. Croyle debate.

Sorry bud but the safety position in the cover 2 is not about hitting. First and foremost it is about coverage. Has Pollard made some mistakes in coverage? Sure, he has made some. But he has also made some good plays as well. Regardless, he hasn't made near as many mistakes in coverage as Wesley does.

If the measure of a good safety was big hits then Roy Williams would be the best safety in the NFL. But that isn't the case and Roy Williams is far from the best safety in the NFL.

Reerun_KC
11-20-2007, 05:39 PM
Unfortunately, so has Wesley for 8 years now. Id rather go with the kid and let him grow.
Bingo!

Count Alex's Wins
11-20-2007, 05:40 PM
You are just as off on this as you were on the Huard vs. Croyle debate.


No, I'm not. Pollard sucks. He doesn't make plays.

Wesley sucks, too, to be accurate. But at least he's hit a few guys this year.

Pollard is a waste of space. A glorified special teams player.

Find someone else to play safety.

kcchiefsus
11-20-2007, 05:41 PM
Here's the issue with Pollard. He has shown absolutely nothing. Zilch. Name one play he's made this year. One. Can you think of anything other than that gift interception Carson Palmer threw him? I guess he had a tipped pass in another game. Big whoop.

He's lousy. He takes bad angles. He whiffs on tackles. He doesn't make plays in coverage. He has a cutesy nickname, but hits ABSOLUTELY NO ONE.

He sucks.

Just this past game he made a tackle on Colts TE Ben Utecht where he made a great read to come up from his safety position and stop the receiver a yard short of the first down. I remember he made another good play in the game although I can't remember what it was.

He still doesn't make half as many bad plays as Wesley does. Remind me, who was it that bit hard on the play action and left Daniel Graham wide open in the endzone for a touchdown? Oh, I remember now. That was Greg Wesley.

Count Alex's Wins
11-20-2007, 05:42 PM
Id rather go with the kid and let him grow.

Into what? A huge ****ing liablity?

Pollard's had plenty of time to show something. He has shown JACK out there. I'm not looking for him to be SUPER AWESOME. I don't mind mistakes. But the guy flat out DOESN'T MAKE PLAYS.

He had Selvin Young right in front of him in the backfield two weeks ago, got juked and gave up a 20-yard TD run. WOOHOO POLLARD! WAY TO JUSTIFY THAT SECOND ROUND PICK!

Pollard sucks. He's a bust. Stick him on special teams where he can have an impact.

ChiefsCountry
11-20-2007, 05:42 PM
Pollard needs to move to LB.... Probably would make a good hybird type player...

Maybe try that???

I said this as well and got laughed at. He would be a perfect backer IMO in the cover 2, groom him behind Donnie Edwards.

kcchiefsus
11-20-2007, 05:43 PM
No, I'm not. Pollard sucks. He doesn't make plays.

Wesley sucks, too, to be accurate. But at least he's hit a few guys this year.

Pollard is a waste of space. A glorified special teams player.

Find someone else to play safety.

You said Croyle sucks and would throw interception after interception once he got in the game. That never happened, despite being on the road against the 3rd ranked defense.

After that it's kind of hard to believe much of what you say. You have lost all credibility. I also find it hilarious how you talked up both Pollard and Croyle during training camp but at the first sign of them struggling you jumped off the bandwagon and said that they both suck.

beer bacon
11-20-2007, 05:44 PM
Just this past game he made a tackle on Colts TE Ben Utecht where he made a great read to come up from his safety position and stop the receiver a yard short of the first down. I remember he made another good play in the game although I can't remember what it was.

He still doesn't make half as many bad plays as Wesley does. Remind me, who was it that bit hard on the play action and left Daniel Graham wide open in the endzone for a touchdown? Oh, I remember now. That was Greg Wesley.

Was it Dallas or Utecht that Pollard nailed going over the middle? Whoever the guy was, he had to leave the game for a while to nurse the hurt put on him by Pollard.

Count Alex's Wins
11-20-2007, 05:44 PM
who was it that bit hard on the play action and left Daniel Graham wide open in the endzone for a touchdown? Oh, I remember now. That was Greg Wesley.

Who bit hard on the play action and left Ronald Curry wide open for a touchdown in Oakland?

BERNARD POLLARD.

Who got his ass raped against Andre Johnson in Houston?

BERNARD POLLARD.

Who teamed up with Ty Law to give up a bomb against the Packers

BERNARD POLLARD.

Who sucks?

BERNARD POLLARD.

Count Alex's Wins
11-20-2007, 05:45 PM
Was it Dallas or Utecht that Pollard nailed going over the middle?

You're thinking of Aaron Moorehead. Derrick Johnson wiped him the **** out.

Pollard is the worst "hitter" I've ever seen. He doesn't hit people.

smittysbar
11-20-2007, 05:48 PM
Who bit hard on the play action and left Ronald Curry wide open for a touchdown in Oakland?

BERNARD POLLARD.

Who got his ass raped against Andre Johnson in Houston?

BERNARD POLLARD.

Who teamed up with Ty Law to give up a bomb against the Packers

BERNARD POLLARD.

Who sucks?

BERNARD POLLARD.

Give me break! Law and Pollard had great coverage on that GB Bomb. Great pass and great catch.

CoMoChief
11-20-2007, 05:49 PM
Wesley has been knocking the shit out of people lately.

Count Alex's Wins
11-20-2007, 05:50 PM
I also find it hilarious how you talked up both Pollard and Croyle during training camp but at the first sign of them struggling you jumped off the bandwagon and said that they both suck.

Croyle? He had a great camp. He blew in preseason. But I never gave up on him as the quarterback of the future.

Pollard? He had a great camp. But it probably had everything to do with the crappy offense he faced day in and day out.

I've given up on him. Why? HE DOES NOTHING. He's not a playmaker. I've been looking for a ray of hope for WEEKS now. He's a waste of space. He's doing well if he can just tackle someone out there instead of whiffing.

CoMoChief
11-20-2007, 05:50 PM
Give me break! Law and Pollard had great coverage on that GB Bomb. Great pass and great catch.
ehh I wouldnt say that. One of the times Pollard CLEARLY blew coverage like a SOB.

smittysbar
11-20-2007, 05:51 PM
You're thinking of Aaron Moorehead. Derrick Johnson wiped him the **** out.

Pollard is the worst "hitter" I've ever seen. He doesn't hit people.

I have not been that disappointed in him. He needs time, maybe, you have to give young guys time before you can say "you suck"

Huard sucked and we stuck with him???????? I guess if we are in transition I am just wondering why Wesley got the nod

CoMoChief
11-20-2007, 05:51 PM
Croyle? He had a great camp. He blew in preseason. But I never gave up on him as the quarterback of the future.

Pollard? He had a great camp. But it probably had everything to do with the crappy offense he faced day in and day out.

I've given up on him. Why? HE DOES NOTHING. He's not a playmaker. I've been looking for a ray of hope for WEEKS now. He's a waste of space. He's doing well if he can just tackle someone out there instead of whiffing.
He and Wesley are the same player.

Count Alex's Wins
11-20-2007, 05:52 PM
I have not been that disappointed in him. He needs time, maybe, you have to give young guys time before you can say "you suck"

Look, I'm not opposed to giving young guys time. That's not the issue. But at some point, they have to DO SOMETHING. Pollard does NOTHING out there.


Huard sucked and we stuck with him???????? I guess if we are in transition I am just wondering why Wesley got the nod

Because the Chiefs got sick and tired of Pollard sucking ass, too. He comes off the field on third downs frequently now because they are scared to death of him screwing up a play.

Don't be surprised to see us draft a safety this year.

L.A. Chieffan
11-20-2007, 06:05 PM
Wesley is just playing better right now. You can't just give up on a guy after half a ****ing season.

HemiEd
11-20-2007, 06:10 PM
Pollard sucks.

That is not possible, Pollard is a Herm draft choice.

Count Alex's Wins
11-20-2007, 06:13 PM
Give me break! Law and Pollard had great coverage on that GB Bomb. Great pass and great catch.

Pollard failed to make a play on the ball. Herm said as much.

Just wait til Mecca gets his teeth in this thread.

smittysbar
11-20-2007, 06:17 PM
Pollard failed to make a play on the ball. Herm said as much.

Just wait til Mecca gets his teeth in this thread.

Are we talking about the same one? The one down the middle that was fit in there perfect, and a great catch with tight coverage by law and Pollard

Count Alex's Wins
11-20-2007, 06:20 PM
Are we talking about the same one? The one down the middle that was fit in there perfect, and a great catch with tight coverage by law and Pollard

Herm Edwards himself said Pollard failed to make a play on the ball. That's exactly what happened. Pollard gave it the old William Bartee try: In perfect position, but fails to make a play on the ball.

Why are you so high on Bernard Pollard? He's great on special teams. So far he can't tell his ass from a hole in the ground when he's on defense.

CupidStunt
11-20-2007, 06:25 PM
GOATSE HAS SPOKEN.

Its cute.

Count Alex's Wins
11-20-2007, 06:28 PM
GOATSE HAS SPOKEN.

Its cute.

I'm waiting for ONE REASON why ANYONE should be positive about Bernard Pollard.

smittysbar
11-20-2007, 06:29 PM
Herm Edwards himself said Pollard failed to make a play on the ball. That's exactly what happened. Pollard gave it the old William Bartee try: In perfect position, but fails to make a play on the ball.

Why are you so high on Bernard Pollard? He's great on special teams. So far he can't tell his ass from a hole in the ground when he's on defense.

First off, right now is not a good time to use the ol' "Herm said so"

Hem never has a clue WTF he has said 2 min after he says it

Second I am not real big on Pollard, but thought he looked great at trianing camp. I don't want to give up on him after half a season.

HemiEd
11-20-2007, 06:29 PM
I'm waiting for ONE REASON why ANYONE should be positive about Bernard Pollard.

He was Herm's second overall pick!

louie aguiar
11-20-2007, 06:31 PM
He's lousy. He takes bad angles. He whiffs on tackles. He doesn't make plays in coverage. He has a cutesy nickname, but hits ABSOLUTELY NO ONE.

He sucks.

This description sounds like Derrick Johnson who played an awful game on Sunday.

Count Alex's Wins
11-20-2007, 06:34 PM
This description sounds like Derrick Johnson who played an awful game on Sunday.

Derrick Johnson missed a couple tackles, but otherwise he was ALL OVER THE PLACE making plays, tipping passes, giving back adjustments to receivers, and stuffing running backs in the backfield.

DJ has been making plays ALL YEAR. Pollard has done jack.

L.A. Chieffan
11-20-2007, 06:34 PM
This description sounds like Derrick Johnson who played an awful game on Sunday.
WTF

Reerun_KC
11-20-2007, 06:35 PM
Keep playing the kid, it can only get better....

Besides, our team sucks, so might as well play all the young players...

smittysbar
11-20-2007, 06:36 PM
This description sounds like Derrick Johnson who played an awful game on Sunday.

Moron:)

louie aguiar
11-20-2007, 06:38 PM
On two huge plays, DJ came did a Kawika Mitchell impersonation and totally whiffed on Addai. On the touchdown run, Addai made him look stupid and on the run on the Colts final drive, Addai again made DJ look stupid and set up the Manning QB sneak and allowed the Colts to melt the clock. He's been just a disappointment this year. I thought he had a chance to make the pro bowl before the season. The reality is, He's the third best linebacker on his own team.

chop
11-20-2007, 06:39 PM
There was talk at one time about moving Pollard to a OLB position. I wonder if that is still a possibility. Maybe they can groom him to be Edwards replacement.

L.A. Chieffan
11-20-2007, 06:41 PM
On two huge plays, DJ came did a Kawika Mitchell impersonation and totally whiffed on Addai. On the touchdown run, Addai made him look stupid and on the run on the Colts final drive, Addai again made DJ look stupid and set up the Manning QB sneak and allowed the Colts to melt the clock. He's been just a disappointment this year. I thought he had a chance to make the pro bowl before the season. The reality is, He's the third best linebacker on his own team.
You're ****ing smoking WAY TOO much crack. How many times did DJ stop Addai in the backfield? Was he the only one that got burnedby Addai? **** no. DJ has been tearing it up this year.

Count Alex's Wins
11-20-2007, 06:41 PM
He's been just a disappointment this year. .

ROFL

Derrick Johnson is going to finish up this season with something like 20 tackles for loss. He already has 10.5, to go along with three sacks, two interceptions, two forced fumbles, four passes defensed, and a bunch of big hits. Did I mention his tipped pass Sunday fell into Jarrad Page's arms for an interception?

The guy isn't perfect. But if you're going to sit here and call him a "disappointment," then you need to go right ahead and call Bernard Pollard a BUST.

Derrick Johnson looks like a PRO BOWLER compared to Bernard Pollard.

smittysbar
11-20-2007, 07:05 PM
On two huge plays, DJ came did a Kawika Mitchell impersonation and totally whiffed on Addai. On the touchdown run, Addai made him look stupid and on the run on the Colts final drive, Addai again made DJ look stupid and set up the Manning QB sneak and allowed the Colts to melt the clock. He's been just a disappointment this year. I thought he had a chance to make the pro bowl before the season. The reality is, He's the third best linebacker on his own team.

Yeah you can just shut up now.

DJ has had a great year so far.

TEX
11-20-2007, 07:10 PM
ROFL

Derrick Johnson is going to finish up this season with something like 20 tackles for loss. He already has 10.5, to go along with three sacks, two interceptions, two forced fumbles, four passes defensed, and a bunch of big hits. Did I mention his tipped pass Sunday fell into Jarrad Page's arms for an interception?

The guy isn't perfect. But if you're going to sit here and call him a "disappointment," then you need to go right ahead and call Bernard Pollard a BUST.

Derrick Johnson looks like a PRO BOWLER compared to Bernard Pollard.

Agreed, except DJ looks like a PRO BOWLER regardless.

Easy 6
11-20-2007, 07:25 PM
I'll give GOATSE partial credit for his Pollard take, thus far the guy has been disappointing...he was billed as a BLASTER, but more often than not arrives a 1/2 second too late to bring the pain.

Having said that, he's started all of 10 games & not every player progresses at the same rate...if he is playing the same way next year, then it will be a problem.

Despite his shortcomings, he IS 1/4 of a highly rated secondary...he must be doing SOMETHING right.

He probably just needs more seasoning & time in the fire.

Deberg_1990
11-20-2007, 07:47 PM
ROFL

Derrick Johnson is going to finish up this season with something like 20 tackles for loss. He already has 10.5, to go along with three sacks, two interceptions, two forced fumbles, four passes defensed, and a bunch of big hits. Did I mention his tipped pass Sunday fell into Jarrad Page's arms for an interception?

The guy isn't perfect. But if you're going to sit here and call him a "disappointment," then you need to go right ahead and call Bernard Pollard a BUST.

Derrick Johnson looks like a PRO BOWLER compared to Bernard Pollard.

DJ looks like an all or nothing type of guy. (hes either making a spectacular play or hes getting beaten) Which is fine, because you need those type of game changing plays.

But alot of superstart players are like that to some extent. As much as some around here would not like to admit, DT was like that and its probably one of the reasons hes not in the Hall yet.

Buehler445
11-20-2007, 08:30 PM
He's not. Wesley has hit more people this year than Pollard has. Pollard has one hit all year, and it came at the end of a 17-yard run.

Pollard sucks.

He smoked Maurice Jones-Drew on the line of scrimage in the JAX game.

He might suck now, but he still needs time to learn the position. Give the guy a break. I think he is improving (See the torching he got in the Houston game). That is the point of playing new guys so they can get the kinks worked out. Better now than later.

Count Alex's Wins
11-20-2007, 08:31 PM
He smoked Maurice Jones-Drew on the line of scrimage in the JAX game.
ROFL

That "hit" came 17 yards down the field. And Mojo bounced right off while Pollard dropped to the turf.

Buehler445
11-20-2007, 08:47 PM
ROFL

That "hit" came 17 yards down the field. And Mojo bounced right off while Pollard dropped to the turf.

We're thinking of different plays. Regardless, let the kid play the year out. Safety is a lot to learn. Let the kid develop.

cdcox
11-20-2007, 08:48 PM
Pollard is definitely a disappointment. I'm not ready to kick him to the curb yet, but he is developing more slowly than you want. I'd give him another year or so, but I've got safety penciled in as a probable need position.

Count Alex's Wins
11-20-2007, 08:55 PM
We're thinking of different plays.

You're not thinking of this one?

http://i7.tinypic.com/7xdqd5x.gif

Easy 6
11-20-2007, 08:59 PM
You're not thinking of this one?

http://i7.tinypic.com/7xdqd5x.gif

That may have been 17 yards downfield, but it was one helluva shot.

L.A. Chieffan
11-20-2007, 09:04 PM
That may have been 17 yards downfield, but it was one helluva shot.
POLLARD WOULD HAVE DESTROYED ROIDMAN

Buehler445
11-20-2007, 09:08 PM
You're not thinking of this one?

http://i7.tinypic.com/7xdqd5x.gif

No. There was one at the line of scrimmage that I'm thinking of. My point remains that he needs the time on the field.

Count Alex's Wins
11-20-2007, 09:11 PM
No. There was one at the line of scrimmage that I'm thinking of.

I think you're imagining things. If Pollard had made another hit worth a crap, I'd have it in my highlights.

The dude sucks.

Buehler445
11-20-2007, 09:20 PM
I think you're imagining things. If Pollard had made another hit worth a crap, I'd have it in my highlights.

The dude sucks.

Maybe it was a different game. My memory is shit to start with:). I do remember Pollard smoking a runningback at the line. He is no Pro Bowler, but I have seen improvement, and think he needs some more time.

cdcox
11-20-2007, 09:30 PM
Pollard is not a LB. 6-1 and 225 is on the small side for that position and his football instincts aren't very good.

Urlacher is 6-4 and 258. The two should never be compared.

TEX
11-20-2007, 09:30 PM
IMO, Pollard is a example of just because we're going younger at a position, doesn't mean we're better.

And our other young Safety can't tackle very well so...WTF?

KC Tattoo
11-20-2007, 09:39 PM
Bernard Bonecrusher Pollard total tack 36, solo 32, 1 int, 1 sack, 1 safty

Jarrad Page total tack 35, solo 32, 2 int.


Btw Sammy Knight 63 tack, 56 solo, 1 int.

Michael Puff 48 tack, 44 solo, 1 ff.

link? look in the rookie stats thread.


Sammy Knight still is a good one he is playing lights out for the Jags.

I like Bernard Pollard and think he is doing fine and will get better. He needs to play. Wesley has made some big hits but he is expendable after this season. Pollard is too valuable of a football player. His st play is great. Our D is freeking good, Pollard and Page are a big part of our defense being good.

cdcox
11-20-2007, 09:50 PM
urlacher plays MLB---> which requires a little heavier

the LB on our roster:
Bell 6'1'' 245
edwards 6'2'' 224
fox 6'3'' 235
Nap harris 6'3' 253 --->heavier cuz MLB
nate harris 6'0'' 230
DJ 6'2'' 242
thomas 6'1'' 237
baldwin 6'1'' 230

http://www.kcchiefs.com/players/

Seems like Pollard is similar height and weight. If he needs to, I dont see why he cant add 5-10lbs. He runs a 4.5 which would be great for our OLB.

Which still doesn't solve his poor football instincts, which is his problem at S. More play may help if he can learn. Changing positions probably won't.

Count Alex's Wins
11-20-2007, 09:52 PM
The difference between Page and Pollard is that Page showed flashes last year. Pollard has barely been adequate at best. Meanwhile Page continues to do his job week in and week out, and has done a great job of shoring up his tackling.

cdcox
11-20-2007, 10:00 PM
Even in the run game he seems to be out of position and take bad angles too often. Again I'd play him a lot this year and see if he was able to consolidate his experience into better play by next season.

Daryle Lamonica
11-20-2007, 10:22 PM
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smittysbar
11-20-2007, 10:33 PM
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Demonpenz
11-20-2007, 10:36 PM
damnit i almost had a bet with someone that pollard wouldn't play 90 percent of the snaps this year.

MadMax
11-20-2007, 10:38 PM
Even in the run game he seems to be out of position and take bad angles too often. Again I'd play him a lot this year and see if he was able to consolidate his experience into better play by next season.


He has blocked 4 or 5 punts, but that doesnt help his coverage skills :/ I sure hope he works it out...The last person we had to block so many punts was Kevin Ross I believe..

Mecca
11-20-2007, 10:39 PM
Me and Chiefscountry were on Pollard sucking before just about anyone else was.....

The guy is slow and not smart enough to make up for it, if you are going to play in the NFL in the secondary without elite speed you need great smarts and instincts..he has none of the 3 things.

He is a special teams hyrbid LB/S a role player, not a key starting cog...

The supposed starting players I'd say are having bad years or down years are Hali, Law and Pollard with Nap Harris getting an honorable mention for some of the awful games he's played, he doesn't get a full on grade for playing a couple of good games in there.

Mecca
11-20-2007, 10:41 PM
He has blocked 4 or 5 punts, but that doesnt help his coverage skills :/ I sure hope he works it out...The last person we had to block so many punts was Kevin Ross I believe..

He's a good special teams player......but if you wanted to take a good special teams player with a 2nd round pick we coulda had Devin Hester.

Frankie
11-20-2007, 10:41 PM
Give me a ****ing break. A guy who is in his first year starting struggles a little bit and he is already a bust? You sound like all of the idiots out there who already labeled Croyle a bust.
You are too new to recall how most of the same posters here called LJ a bust before Priest got hurt.

MadMax
11-20-2007, 10:44 PM
He's a good special teams player......but if you wanted to take a good special teams player with a 2nd round pick we coulda had Devin Hester.


I don't disagree, I just want the guy to work out..But if he doesnt then oh well, just more of the same.. I don't draft em I just watchem :)

Mecca
11-20-2007, 10:44 PM
Safeties develop a lot faster than QB's do.....also people called LJ a bust before he ever played.

cdcox
11-20-2007, 10:45 PM
He has blocked 4 or 5 punts, but that doesnt help his coverage skills :/ I sure hope he works it out...The last person we had to block so many punts was Kevin Ross I believe..

Albert Lewis.

MadMax
11-20-2007, 10:49 PM
Albert Lewis.



OUCH!!! You are absolutely right :) Good CB too. Damn I'm ashamed I didn't know that. Or was he a safety? Damned memory is failing me.