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mcan
11-21-2007, 03:29 PM
On the other thread, I've gone on record saying that I don't think burglers deserved to get killed. I've since been called out by a whole bunch of people who disagree. They think burglers shot and killed during the crime (or while fleeing) deserve it.


So, my question is: What is the absolute minimum a person can do (or be doing) that justifies killing them?

Saulbadguy
11-21-2007, 03:32 PM
Embezzlement.

Mr. Laz
11-21-2007, 03:33 PM
illegal lane change

Stinger
11-21-2007, 03:35 PM
Not throwing on a first down occasionally :D

mcan
11-21-2007, 03:35 PM
illegal lane change


had a feeling we'd get a lot of these. :)

mcan
11-21-2007, 03:36 PM
Embezzlement.


Seriously, you'ld see the street get cleaned up pretty quick.

Stinger
11-21-2007, 03:37 PM
Not going the speed limit in the left hand lane. Or even those in the left lane who go the same speed as the car right lane. :cuss: :cuss: :cuss:

Saulbadguy
11-21-2007, 03:37 PM
Not going the speed limit in the left hand lane. Or even those in the left lane who go the same speed in the car right lane. :cuss: :cuss: :cuss:
Missouri's population would be reduced to 322 if that were the case.

Duck Dog
11-21-2007, 03:38 PM
Starting a thread asking hypothetical questions.











j/k btw... ;)

Duck Dog
11-21-2007, 03:39 PM
Not going the speed limit in the left hand lane. Or even those in the left lane who go the same speed in the car right lane. :cuss: :cuss: :cuss:


Speeders should be shot....in the back of the head of course.

KC Dan
11-21-2007, 03:39 PM
stealing a laptop from a coffee shop

Mr. Laz
11-21-2007, 03:39 PM
more seriously.....


actions that result in the intentional killing of someone else or severe physical harm(ie brutal attacks/rapes)

mcan
11-21-2007, 03:41 PM
more seriously.....


actions that result in the intentional killing of someone else or severe physical harm(ie brutal attacks/rapes)


I think you and I see things pretty much the same.

Cochise
11-21-2007, 03:45 PM
In a punitive sense probably only actions that result in death as an intentional consequence.

In a self-defense context, if I detect a threat that could be deadly to me or another person and I have the ability to stop it.

Bacon Cheeseburger
11-21-2007, 03:46 PM
illegal lane change
I'm thinking more like the cocksmoker who doesn't think he has to line up and wait like everyone else when there's a lane closed ahead and just drives right on past then tries to weasel his way in at the last second. I tangled with one of these ****wads this morning, I tried to block him by getting in the other lane and the fugger passed me on the grass while flipping me the bird. He definitely doesn't deserve to live.

Mr. Laz
11-21-2007, 03:46 PM
I think you and I see things pretty much the same.
i'm a believer that the punishment should really fit the crime.


money - money
physical harm - physical harm


we as a society need to really start drawing a wide line between the punishments between violent crimes and non-violent crimes.

MOhillbilly
11-21-2007, 03:48 PM
butthurt internet threads.

SPchief
11-21-2007, 03:49 PM
For being a MU or KU fan.

burt
11-21-2007, 03:50 PM
butthurt internet threads.

The first sign of aids IS that pounding sensation...in your ass!

eazyb81
11-21-2007, 04:16 PM
stealing a laptop from a coffee shop

LOL, nice call.

Rain Man
11-21-2007, 04:20 PM
I think the issue is not so much the crime itself, but the situation that the crime creates and its possible outcomes for the safety of the innocent party.

For example, if you discover that the guy two cubicles down is embezzling, it's not right to run over there and shoot the guy. There's little chance that you are facing imminent physical harm. Likewise in a situation where you see a guy litter. In both of those cases, you will likely not have a problem with waiting for official police intervention.

At the other end of the scale, killing a person who is charging you with a knife, or who has a gun in a holster, is obviously encouraged if you have interrupted them in a crime. The physical threat is obvious.

Now, moving on to the potentially gray areas...

First, I have the philosophy that a person should make an effort to stop a crime if he/she sees it in progress and the criminals will get away if he/she does nothing. If you can wait for the police, then wait. Otherwise, you must act.

The key to me is the potential threat of violence, even if it's not imminent. If you stop a 15 year-old kid who is trying to steal a car, for all you know that kid has a mile-long arrest record and he's going to go to prison for 20 years when the police arrive. In that case, he's got a strong incentive to eliminate a witness. In that case, you've should have every right to use deadly force if that person does anything to either run away or to threaten you. Whether it's their first offense or their 100th, you don't know, so as a good citizen you should have the right to assume that it's their 100th and act accordingly.

Let's say that you catch a person committing a crime such as theft, whether it's your property or someone else's. If the person tries to attack you OR tries to flee, you should have every right to use deadly force. If they're innocent, they should have no problem waiting around to explain it to the police. A bullet hole in the back is just fine with me.

The bottom line is that criminals need to learn that, if someone confronts them, they need to sit down, put their hands on their head, and wait for the police, or their lives are in danger.

Now, what kind of crime? I think there are some classifications of crime that I don't recall, but I'm sure there's a reasonable line somewhere. But honestly, if a person is shoplifting a Snickers Bar and you confront them, they better sit down with their hands on their head and wait for the police, or be prepared to face deadly force. My bar is pretty low on this sort of thing.

RJ
11-21-2007, 04:20 PM
I'm thinking more like the cocksmoker who doesn't think he has to line up and wait like everyone else when there's a lane closed ahead and just drives right on past then tries to weasel his way in at the last second. I tangled with one of these ****wads this morning, I tried to block him by getting in the other lane and the fugger passed me on the grass while flipping me the bird. He definitely doesn't deserve to live.




I hate that guy. I'd also bet a few of him are Planet members.

Donger
11-21-2007, 04:21 PM
But honestly, if a person is shoplifting a Snickers Bar and you confront them, they better sit down with their hands on their head and wait for the police, or be prepared to face deadly force. My bar is pretty low on this sort of thing.

What about a Twix?

RJ
11-21-2007, 04:23 PM
Not going the speed limit in the left hand lane. Or even those in the left lane who go the same speed as the car right lane. :cuss: :cuss: :cuss:



Do the left and right lanes have different speed limits where you live?

barry_smilez20
11-21-2007, 04:25 PM
i think drug dealers should be put to death

Count Zarth
11-21-2007, 04:26 PM
If you get caught stealing a snickers bar you're in the wrong profession. It's too easy to steal candy bars these days. It almost bores me now.

Skip Towne
11-21-2007, 04:26 PM
I'm thinking more like the cocksmoker who doesn't think he has to line up and wait like everyone else when there's a lane closed ahead and just drives right on past then tries to weasel his way in at the last second. I tangled with one of these ****wads this morning, I tried to block him by getting in the other lane and the fugger passed me on the grass while flipping me the bird. He definitely doesn't deserve to live.
It's those MU stickers on your car.

Demonpenz
11-21-2007, 04:30 PM
marquette is actually mu.

bdeg
11-21-2007, 04:33 PM
If you get caught stealing a snickers bar you're in the wrong profession. It's too easy to steal candy bars these days. It almost bores me now.
God damn you're cool.

WPI not paying enough to cover your enormous candy consumption?


:evil:

Stinger
11-21-2007, 04:41 PM
Do the left and right lanes have different speed limits where you live?

:shake:

Maybe this will help

2bikemike
11-21-2007, 04:42 PM
Any crime that results in a murder. This is of course after the fact.

Any time you feel your life or the life of someone with you is in danger you should have the right to use deadly force to protect your selves.

RJ
11-21-2007, 04:44 PM
:shake:

Maybe this will help



Ahhhh.......so they're both going below the posted speed. Now I understand. Sure, they can be shot.

BIG_DADDY
11-21-2007, 04:46 PM
Trying to take our guns.

siberian khatru
11-21-2007, 04:52 PM
I'm thinking more like the cocksmoker who doesn't think he has to line up and wait like everyone else when there's a lane closed ahead and just drives right on past then tries to weasel his way in at the last second. I tangled with one of these ****wads this morning, I tried to block him by getting in the other lane and the fugger passed me on the grass while flipping me the bird. He definitely doesn't deserve to live.

I really, really despise people like that. I despise the attitude it reveals.

RJ
11-21-2007, 05:00 PM
I really, really despise people like that. I despise the attitude it reveals.



I always wonder if the person who would do that would ever try the same thing face to face, say in a grocery check out line.

I would love to know what prompts people to behave that way but I've never known anyone to admit to the behavior, much less explain it.

el borracho
11-21-2007, 05:00 PM
:shake:

Maybe this will help
Heh. New Mexican road block.

JBucc
11-21-2007, 05:01 PM
Eye contact.

BIG_DADDY
11-21-2007, 05:03 PM
:shake:

Maybe this will help

LMAO That goes up my ass a mile.

el borracho
11-21-2007, 05:03 PM
Death penalty for the following:
Rape and/ or attempted rape
Murder and/ or attempted murder
Child molestation and/ or child pornography
Kidnapping and/ or attempted kidnapping
Any kind of willful torture or disfugerment of others

BIG_DADDY
11-21-2007, 05:06 PM
I really, really despise people like that. I despise the attitude it reveals.

Or the guy that never wants to let anyone in on a merge or speeds up when you put your blinker on so you can't get in.

Rain Man
11-21-2007, 05:18 PM
What about a Twix?

I think the right to deadly force is directly proportional to the chocolate content.

Donger
11-21-2007, 05:20 PM
I think the right to deadly force is directly proportional to the chocolate content.

Milk or Dark? I'm with you on dark, but not milk chocolate.

Rain Man
11-21-2007, 05:21 PM
Milk or Dark? I'm with you on dark, but not milk chocolate.

I think it counts for milk, too. In my opinion, there shouldn't even be an inquiry by the police if it's dark.

RJ
11-21-2007, 05:38 PM
So mcan, has your question been answered to your satisfaction?

'Hamas' Jenkins
11-21-2007, 05:43 PM
Reposts.

Bacon Cheeseburger
11-21-2007, 05:50 PM
:shake:

Maybe this will help
That's would be a "left lane hog". I've found it's usually:

a) Someone on their cell phone oblivious to what's actually going on around him/her.

-or-

b) Someone over the age of 90, presumably because they find the merging traffic they have to deal with in the right lane far too confusing.

Rain Man
11-21-2007, 06:13 PM
So mcan, has your question been answered to your satisfaction?

I love a good intellectual discussion.

cdcox
11-21-2007, 06:38 PM
Improper disposal of chewing gum.
Also, manufacturing of chewing gum.

Phobia
11-21-2007, 06:42 PM
What Rainman said. I'll spare you the quote.

I don't think we should shoot people for ripping somebody off. But if they're in my house ripping me off then maybe a little blood on the carpet isn't such a bad thing.

Bwana
11-21-2007, 06:45 PM
Not going the speed limit in the left hand lane. Or even those in the left lane who go the same speed as the car right lane. :cuss: :cuss: :cuss:

Without question....

BOOM!

MOhillbilly
11-21-2007, 06:49 PM
i shot a man in reno just to watch him die.

Bwana
11-21-2007, 06:51 PM
:shake:

Maybe this will help

ROFL

rep

MIAdragon
11-21-2007, 07:10 PM
Just about ANY crime involving children

MIAdragon
11-21-2007, 07:12 PM
Or the dumb hooker at the Wendyís drive through forgetting to give me GD ketchup after Iíve asked 5 times for it. Id stab her in the neck.

Phobia
11-21-2007, 07:13 PM
Or the dumb hooker at the Wendyís drive through forgetting to give me GD ketchup after Iíve asked 5 times for it. Id stab her in the neck.

It's the face, n00b.

Easy 6
11-21-2007, 07:18 PM
Or the dumb hooker at the Wendyís drive through forgetting to give me GD ketchup after Iíve asked 5 times for it. Id stab her in the neck.

:LOL:

I've learned to endure the harsh stares of fast food idiots as i check my bag before pulling away.

Lzen
11-21-2007, 07:19 PM
Not going the speed limit in the left hand lane. Or even those in the left lane who go the same speed as the car right lane. :cuss: :cuss: :cuss:

Heh. Good idea. Only problem is that you would reduce the Missouri population to about 12.

Lzen
11-21-2007, 07:20 PM
Missouri's population would be reduced to 322 if that were the case.

Crap, I guess I should read the thread first. :banghead:

Great minds, Saul. ;)

Lzen
11-21-2007, 07:40 PM
That's would be a "left lane hog". I've found it's usually:

a) Someone on their cell phone oblivious to what's actually going on around him/her.

-or-

b) Someone over the age of 90, presumably because they find the merging traffic they have to deal with in the right lane far too confusing.

That's usually the case. But sometimes it's just some dumb ass that either doesn't care or is ignorant of the purpose of the passing lane. I love having a truck. I can get right up on the rear and that almost always persuades them to move out of my way. :D

Lzen
11-21-2007, 07:47 PM
In response to the thread starter:
The least a person should be killed for is if Willie Roaf messes with your wife.

BWillie
11-21-2007, 07:55 PM
Not going the speed limit in the left hand lane. Or even those in the left lane who go the same speed as the car right lane. :cuss: :cuss: :cuss:

You are one of these morons. I'll be going 75 mph in a 65 in the left lane with a bunch of cars to my right and the dbag behind me will sit and flash his brights at me. I'm already speeding, and they still bitch. I swear to god, the next person that does that I'm going to slam on my brakes.

patteeu
11-21-2007, 07:57 PM
After long reflection, I don't think a date should be killed for refusing to put out. That's a little below my personal line.

Easy 6
11-21-2007, 08:00 PM
You are one of these morons. I'll be going 75 mph in a 65 in the left lane with a bunch of cars to my right and the dbag behind me will sit and flash his brights at me. I'm already speeding, and they still bitch. I swear to god, the next person that does that I'm going to slam on my brakes.

Some people JUST. CANT. STAND. to see another car ahead of them.

If your doing 80, they wanna do 85...people will act in ways in their car that they NEVER would anywhere else.

I always follow the unwritten rules of the road & get over for them to pass when its safe...but if they are just dogging me & theres nothing i can do about, i will (only when alone) give my brakes a good tap & basically dare'em to hit me.

I'll BE DAMNED before i suffer a tailgater.

barry_smilez20
11-21-2007, 08:06 PM
i wana kill those people who talk on cell phones in elevators

MIAdragon
11-21-2007, 08:19 PM
Some people JUST. CANT. STAND. to see another car ahead of them.

If your doing 80, they wanna do 85...people will act in ways in their car that they NEVER would anywhere else.

I always follow the unwritten rules of the road & get over for them to pass when its safe...but if they are just dogging me & theres nothing i can do about, i will (only when alone) give my brakes a good tap & basically dare'em to hit me.

I'll BE DAMNED before i suffer a tailgater.

If Im doing 10-15 over in the fast lane and you want to go faster, please find another way. They are just as annoying as the grannies going slow.

Thig Lyfe
11-21-2007, 08:27 PM
Looking directly into my eyes.

Tribal Warfare
11-21-2007, 08:38 PM
drug dealing (narcotics)and child molestation

beer bacon
11-21-2007, 08:44 PM
Jayhawking.

MIAdragon
11-21-2007, 08:44 PM
drug dealing (narcotics)and child molestation

drug dealing huh, why?

RJ
11-21-2007, 08:45 PM
Some people JUST. CANT. STAND. to see another car ahead of them.

If your doing 80, they wanna do 85...people will act in ways in their car that they NEVER would anywhere else.

I always follow the unwritten rules of the road & get over for them to pass when its safe...but if they are just dogging me & theres nothing i can do about, i will (only when alone) give my brakes a good tap & basically dare'em to hit me.

I'll BE DAMNED before i suffer a tailgater.




I hate those guys. They will cause an accident many times more than the granny going 5 mph below the limit.

Easy 6
11-21-2007, 08:49 PM
I hate those guys. They will cause an accident many times more than the granny going 5 mph below the limit.

Absolutely RJ, guys in big 'ol trucks are the worst offenders & i take extra pride in giving them a hard brake if they keep 'gaiting me.

That big truck better kill me when it hits.

Tribal Warfare
11-21-2007, 08:50 PM
drug dealing huh, why?



The distributors of the narcotic product don't care who it affect period, and thus damaging future succession of one's future and family. Any crime that truly damages society in a whole, while knowing such information should have death penalty tagged on it.

MIAdragon
11-21-2007, 08:53 PM
The distributors of the narcotic product don't care who it affect period, and thus damaging future succession of one's future and family. Any crime that truly damages society in a whole, while knowing such information should have death penalty tagged on it.

So how do you feel about alcohol or casinos?

Tribal Warfare
11-21-2007, 09:00 PM
So how do you feel about alcohol or casinos?



Alcohol is a free will choice, but at the genetic area people can't handle it, which were under prohibition because of its "ungentlemanly effect" on others . casinos aren't affecting anyone at a biological level.


Are you condoning narcotics aren't damaging society in a whole? If someone gave a young family member a "taste" then suddenly wants the drug every minute of the day, wouldn't you want to kill that f*cker?

Craqhead
11-21-2007, 09:00 PM
I'm going w/ Illegel lane changes... or that one retard that cuts ya off, then acts like you did something wrong.

Brock
11-21-2007, 09:02 PM
The distributors of the narcotic product don't care who it affect period, and thus damaging future succession of one's future and family. Any crime that truly damages society in a whole, while knowing such information should have death penalty tagged on it.

I assume you're okay with porn.

MIAdragon
11-21-2007, 09:04 PM
Alcohol is a free will choice, but at the genetic area people can't handle it, which were under prohibition because of its "ungentlemanly effect" on others . casinos aren't affecting anyone at a biological level.


Are you condoning narcotics aren't damaging society in a whole? If someone gave a young family member a "taste" then suddenly wants the drug every minute of the day, wouldn't you want to kill that f*cker?

Good point. Yes I would.

Logical
11-21-2007, 09:06 PM
Actions that can have the potential to bring harm to me or my family. Burglary has that potential if any of my family is present when the home is broken into, as you can never know the intent of the burglar..

Brock
11-21-2007, 09:08 PM
You break in, you deserve whatever you get. If it's a new TV, congrats. If it's a new orifice, tough shit.

MIAdragon
11-21-2007, 09:11 PM
You break in, you deserve whatever you get. If it's a new TV, congrats. If it's a new orifice, tough shit.

ROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFL

stumppy
11-21-2007, 09:23 PM
If you are putting me or my family in harms way you're dead.


It's a coin toss on my dogs. Sometimes I want to kill them myself.:D


As far as my property goes. If I catch you stealing it you're going to the hospital before you go to jail.

Bwana
11-22-2007, 09:41 AM
If you are putting me or my family in harms way you're dead.


It's a coin toss on my dogs. Sometimes I want to kill them myself.:D


As far as my property goes. If I catch you stealing it you're going to the hospital before you go to jail.

I agree if it's "outside." Make the guy wish he was never born. On the other hand, if I'm in my house and someone breaks in, it is very very likely they are going to be taking a dirt nap. Boom, drop, call the cops, have carpet replace, move on.

banyon
11-22-2007, 09:46 AM
more seriously.....


actions that result in the intentional killing of someone else or severe physical harm(ie brutal attacks/rapes)

I'm definitely in the minority here, but I'm against the death penalty in total.

But if we're going to have it, then I would support your list+treason.

Hog Farmer
11-22-2007, 10:47 AM
I think if someone were to call play after play of running between the tackles when after 4000 attempts it is obviously not productive then they should be executed!

CrazyPhuD
11-22-2007, 12:17 PM
Man I can't believe no one's said general stupidity. It's the catchall. You get all the annoying drivers, coworkers, and fast food workers. The only problem is who do you get to do your shit jobs then?

But if I had to pick just one, it's the **** who after you pass him, speeds up to pass you and then slows down after turning back into your lane again. That or the 5 people going 50 mph across all lanes of 101 with NO ONE in front of them. Those people need to die, but very very very slowly. :evil: :grr:

Bob Dole
11-22-2007, 01:38 PM
On the other thread, I've gone on record saying that I don't think burglers deserved to get killed. I've since been called out by a whole bunch of people who disagree. They think burglers shot and killed during the crime (or while fleeing) deserve it.


So, my question is: What is the absolute minimum a person can do (or be doing) that justifies killing them?

Bob Dole is going to assume you've never come home after a holiday weekend to find your house ransacked and a bunch of your shit missing.

SPchief
11-22-2007, 01:45 PM
Bob Dole is going to assume you've never come home after a holiday weekend to find your house ransacked and a bunch of your shit missing.


Sorry about that. I probably should have cleaned up a little bit before I left.

jjchieffan
11-22-2007, 01:52 PM
Starting a damon hurd fan club, agreeing with jdumwhit or just going by the name goatse.

HonestChieffan
11-22-2007, 04:49 PM
Being ignorant and asking ignorant questions. See start of thread as example.

whoaskew
11-22-2007, 05:28 PM
I'm thinking more like the cocksmoker who doesn't think he has to line up and wait like everyone else when there's a lane closed ahead and just drives right on past then tries to weasel his way in at the last second.

It sounds like I am the kind of guy that would piss you off then. The only difference is that I don't have to weasel my way in at the last second. There are always people who stay 5 or 6 car lengths behind the car in front of them. That is who I get in front of.


I would love to know what prompts people to behave that way but I've never known anyone to admit to the behavior, much less explain it.

I feel like I am on the highway for a reason- to go somewhere. What I can't stand is the idiots on a 65mph highway driving 35mph. What is worse is when that idiot has a friend doing the same thing in the only other lane.


I guess I just see things different than you do.

The way you see things is that there is a lane closed ahead and everyone else is lined up in one lane. You feel that I should wait in line behind everyone else and not try to pass you up or else I am an idiot.

The way I see things is that if the left lane will close 2 miles up the highway, and everyone else is driving 20mph in the right lane, I have every right to pass as many of you idiots as I can before I hit the bottleneck (as long as I drive under the speed limit).


This kind of reminds me of the discussion of the Patriots "running up the score" on their opponents.

It wouldn't surprise me if you have a problem with the Patriots scoring so much. People who make that argument usually cite some ethical reasons of why the Patriots shouldn't score so much (they are showing off, they are embarrasing their opponents, they are bad for the game, etc.), but these same people are quick to point out all the unethical things they would do to the Patriots if given the chance (break legs, hurt people, take cheap shots on Tom Brady after the play was over, etc.). Similarly, you guys have made it clear that you feel that everyone should get in your line on the highway because of ethical reasons if they try to pass you (not fair, showing off, hurting your feelings, etc.), but at the same time you are proud of the fact that you tried to run someone off the road who was about to pass you in the other lane(doesn't sound very ethical to me).

I beleive the Patriots are doing nothing wrong by attempting to score everytime they get the ball until their time is up in the game, since that is within the rules. Similarly, I believe that I am doing nothing wrong by covering as much ground as I can until my time is up in the driving lane, as long as I am within the highway rules (speed limit).


I guess to each his own.

MIAdragon
11-22-2007, 05:35 PM
It sounds like I am the kind of guy that would piss you off then. The only difference is that I don't have to weasel my way in at the last second. There are always people who stay 5 or 6 car lengths behind the car in front of them. That is who I get in front of.




I feel like I am on the highway for a reason- to go somewhere. What I can't stand is the idiots on a 65mph highway driving 35mph. What is worse is when that idiot has a friend doing the same thing in the only other lane.


I guess I just see things different than you do.

The way you see things is that there is a lane closed ahead and everyone else is lined up in one lane. You feel that I should wait in line behind everyone else and not try to pass you up or else I am an idiot.

The way I see things is that if the left lane will close 2 miles up the highway, and everyone else is driving 20mph in the right lane, I have every right to pass as many of you idiots as I can before I hit the bottleneck (as long as I drive under the speed limit).



I guess to each his own.

yea 75% of the reason that the right lane is going so slow is due to you douchebags thinking that you should wait till the last minute then force her way into traffic instead of merging with the flow of traffic 2 miles back.

Skip Towne
11-22-2007, 05:52 PM
It sounds like I am the kind of guy that would piss you off then. The only difference is that I don't have to weasel my way in at the last second. There are always people who stay 5 or 6 car lengths behind the car in front of them. That is who I get in front of.




I feel like I am on the highway for a reason- to go somewhere. What I can't stand is the idiots on a 65mph highway driving 35mph. What is worse is when that idiot has a friend doing the same thing in the only other lane.


I guess I just see things different than you do.

The way you see things is that there is a lane closed ahead and everyone else is lined up in one lane. You feel that I should wait in line behind everyone else and not try to pass you up or else I am an idiot.

The way I see things is that if the left lane will close 2 miles up the highway, and everyone else is driving 20mph in the right lane, I have every right to pass as many of you idiots as I can before I hit the bottleneck (as long as I drive under the speed limit).


This kind of reminds me of the discussion of the Patriots "running up the score" on their opponents.

It wouldn't surprise me if you have a problem with the Patriots scoring so much. People who make that argument usually cite some ethical reasons of why the Patriots shouldn't score so much (they are showing off, they are embarrasing their opponents, they are bad for the game, etc.), but these same people are quick to point out all the unethical things they would do to the Patriots if given the chance (break legs, hurt people, take cheap shots on Tom Brady after the play was over, etc.). Similarly, you guys have made it clear that you feel that everyone should get in your line on the highway because of ethical reasons if they try to pass you (not fair, showing off, hurting your feelings, etc.), but at the same time you are proud of the fact that you tried to run someone off the road who was about to pass you in the other lane(doesn't sound very ethical to me).

I beleive the Patriots are doing nothing wrong by attempting to score everytime they get the ball until their time is up in the game, since that is within the rules. Similarly, I believe that I am doing nothing wrong by covering as much ground as I can until my time is up in the driving lane, as long as I am within the highway rules (speed limit).


I guess to each his own.
whoaskew?

FringeNC
11-22-2007, 06:34 PM
Turning the NFL's #1 offense into the #32 offense in 18 months should be a capital offense.

HonestChieffan
11-22-2007, 07:08 PM
It is, fans are dying daily

Phobia
11-22-2007, 07:17 PM
yea 75% of the reason that the right lane is going so slow is due to you douchebags thinking that you should wait till the last minute then force her way into traffic instead of merging with the flow of traffic 2 miles back.

That "problem" is never, ever ever going to resolve itself. There's too many culture differences in the world. Down south both lanes are clogged up until the last 20 feet of the merge and that's perfectly acceptable practice. I know I'm not going to convince anybody to see it my way but there's no way I'm going to sit in a lane for 20 minutes to be polite when there's another lane that is completely open and completely LEGAL for me to drive in. I'm just not. I've never been lemming and I'm never going to be. Kudos to those of you who have the manners and mentality to sit there. That's not me.

OTOH, I have little tolerance for line-cutters at amusement parks. Go figure. It's similar but there's a fine line. Strange, huh?

whoaskew
11-22-2007, 07:42 PM
That "problem" is never, ever ever going to resolve itself. There's too many culture differences in the world. Down south both lanes are clogged up until the last 20 feet of the merge and that's perfectly acceptable practice. I know I'm not going to convince anybody to see it my way but there's no way I'm going to sit in a lane for 20 minutes to be polite when there's another lane that is completely open and completely LEGAL for me to drive in. I'm just not. I've never been lemming and I'm never going to be. Kudos to those of you who have the manners and mentality to sit there. That's not me.

OTOH, I have little tolerance for line-cutters at amusement parks. Go figure. It's similar but there's a fine line. Strange, huh?


I totally agree with you on your view on the wide open highway lane.

I also agree with your view on despising line-cutting at amusement parks. I think the reason though is that there is usually only one lane for everyone to go in.

I have been on a few rides where there has been a separate VIP line for people who paid extra admission. I have no problem with those people though.

The last time I went to WOF, I went on some new ride (I think it was called the Patriot) that had 2 entrances. Everyone was lined up at one entrance (including me). After standing in the long line around 20 minutes, I noticed that some new people walked up and went straight to the 2nd entrance and got right on the ride.

Noone got mad at these people. Infact, a lot of the people in my line went to the other entrance. The other line filled up before I got a chance to go over there. I wasn't mad. In fact, I was happy for the people who were smart enough to see an opportunity and take advantage of it. They didn't hurt anyone and they didn't break any rules.

Hailchief
11-22-2007, 07:55 PM
On the other thread, I've gone on record saying that I don't think burglers deserved to get killed. I've since been called out by a whole bunch of people who disagree. They think burglers shot and killed during the crime (or while fleeing) deserve it.


So, my question is: What is the absolute minimum a person can do (or be doing) that justifies killing them?


Break into my house....You'll find out

CHIEF

whoaskew
11-22-2007, 08:10 PM
whoaskew?


My post was in response to the poster who said:


I would love to know what prompts people to behave that way but I've never known anyone to admit to the behavior, much less explain it.

He said he never knew anyone to admit to being willing to drive in a wide open lane while all the other drivers are backed up in the other lane.

He said he would love to know what prompts people to behave that way so I told him.

Simply Red
12-09-2010, 08:20 PM
fire Burt? :shrug:
;)

Bump
12-09-2010, 09:06 PM
murder/rape/torture
having too many kids just to abuse the system
child predators
gang members (bloods, crips, MS13's, etc)
politicians who take money from corporations
high level executive in the health care industry who make millions and force good people who need some medical care to go bankrupt or die because they can't pay.

Tylerthigpen!1!
12-09-2010, 09:22 PM
These old threads always throw me off when I see one of skip's posts.

Marcellus
12-09-2010, 09:33 PM
Wow I read this whole thing and didn't realize it was 3 years old. Some things never change.

SenselessChiefsFan
12-09-2010, 09:36 PM
I don't think that someone should be killed if all they are doing is burgularizing. Unfortunately, I don't think there is anyway to know when you are the home owner. So, basically, it should be considered self defense any time that you have an intruder.

JD10367
12-09-2010, 09:40 PM
Bumping old threads and tricking unsuspecting people into thinking they're new.

Reposting.

Sticking their fingers up your ass while wrestling.

Saying "would of" instead of "would have".