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Count Alex's Wins
11-23-2007, 03:51 PM
He's 100 percent sure.

http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/2007/11/23/jon-kitna-thankful-hes-not-going-to-hell/

Jon Kitna Thankful He's Not Going to Hell

Lions quarterback Jon Kitna had this to say on Thanksgiving when a reporter asked him what he's most thankful for:

"That I don't have to go to hell."

Kitna seems to be equally confident of two things: That he's bound for heaven, and that the Lions are going to win 10 games this year. My prediction is that he's wrong on both counts.

Demonpenz
11-23-2007, 03:53 PM
he better pray jesus didn't have him on his fantasy team

BigMeatballDave
11-23-2007, 04:14 PM
He may go to heaven, but no way is Detroit winning 10 games now...

Bowser
11-23-2007, 04:15 PM
He may go to heaven, but no way is Detroit winning 10 games now...

So he's going to hell for being a liar? Got it.

Spott
11-23-2007, 04:19 PM
He may not be going to hell, but he isn't far away from it having to play for the Lions.

BigMeatballDave
11-23-2007, 04:21 PM
So he's going to hell for being a liar? Got it.Huh?

Bowser
11-23-2007, 04:22 PM
Huh?

He promised....he won't make that promise....he's a liar....he's going to hell for lying.......

Bowser
11-23-2007, 04:23 PM
IT'S NOT FUNNAH IF I HAVE TO SPELL IT OUT, PEOPLE!!!!!

BigMeatballDave
11-23-2007, 04:31 PM
He promised....he won't make that promise....he's a liar....he's going to hell for lying.......Oh, well, if lying gets you into hell, I am well on my way.
:evil:

KCJohnny
11-23-2007, 04:32 PM
God is Alive and Well in America (http://pewresearch.org/pubs/15/god-is-alive-and-well-in-america)

According to Pew polling, more than half of Americans say they attend religious services at least once a month, and about four-in-ten report doing so at least once a week. And for most of the public, faith remains an integral part of daily life, with approximately six-in-ten Americans saying that religion is "very important" in their own lives.

Just as the United States largely remains a religiously observant nation, so the religious beliefs of Americans remain fairly traditional. In fact, more than one-third of Americans (36% in recent Pew polling) continue to believe that the Bible is the "actual word of God" and is to be taken literally, and an additional 40% say the Bible is the word of God although not everything in it should be taken literally. More than three-in-four Americans, in other words, view the Bible as God's word.

Bowser
11-23-2007, 04:35 PM
God is Alive and Well in America (http://pewresearch.org/pubs/15/god-is-alive-and-well-in-america)

According to Pew polling, more than half of Americans say they attend religious services at least once a month, and about four-in-ten report doing so at least once a week. And for most of the public, faith remains an integral part of daily life, with approximately six-in-ten Americans saying that religion is "very important" in their own lives.

Just as the United States largely remains a religiously observant nation, so the religious beliefs of Americans remain fairly traditional. In fact, more than one-third of Americans (36% in recent Pew polling) continue to believe that the Bible is the "actual word of God" and is to be taken literally, and an additional 40% say the Bible is the word of God although not everything in it should be taken literally. More than three-in-four Americans, in other words, view the Bible as God's word.

NOT AGAIN!!!2

Count Alex's Wins
11-23-2007, 04:35 PM
More than three-in-four Americans, in other words, view the Bible as God's word.[/i]

Progress comes slowly.

KCJohnny
11-23-2007, 04:42 PM
Football, faith & fulfillment: top NFL stars combine God and the gridiron (http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G1-141168112.html)

Pregame chapel services, weekly Bible studies, on-field gestures of thanks to God after a big play and prayer circles after games are almost commonplace in today's NFL. Of the 32 NFL teams, nearly a dozen have a chaplain, according to NFL officials. The chaplains are not NFL employees and are not paid by the teams. Churches that they may pastor, or one of the three Christian organizations that minister to sports professionals--Athletes in Action, Fellowship of Christian Athletes, and Champions for Christ--supports them. The NFL does not mandate or ban clubs from having a chaplain, or any other religious services. Instead, it is the decision of each individual club if it wants to offer those types of services to its players, according to NFL officials.

(FCA's headquarters overlooks Arrowhead Stadium.)

Count Alex's Wins
11-23-2007, 04:42 PM
The FCA is a load of crap.

KCJohnny
11-23-2007, 04:45 PM
The FCA is a load of crap.

Really? I found this (http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goatse.cx) interesting:

Goatse.cx was an infamous Internet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet) shock site (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shock_site) that became well-known among various Internet forums because of trolls (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll) who posted links in order to shock other forum readers. Its front page featured a picture, hello.jpg, showing a naked man stretching his anus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anus) open to a diameter roughly equal to the width of his hand, with the inside of his rectum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rectum) clearly visible. Below his gaping anus, his dangling, semi-flaccid penis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penis) and scrotum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scrotum) were visible.

You are a really virtuous guy, but football players who pray are a load of crap. Did I get that right?

FringeNC
11-23-2007, 04:48 PM
The FCA is a load of crap.

I find your contempt for religion a little ironic given your man-love for Herman Edwards, who is the most religious head coach in the NFL, and aptly enough is nicknamed "the preacher".

Personally, Herm seems way over the top to me in believing that the outcome is predetermined by God -- you don't have a problem with that?

Thig Lyfe
11-23-2007, 04:51 PM
Bold words for a guy who works every Sunday.

jjjayb
11-23-2007, 04:54 PM
Kitna seems to be equally confident of two things: That he's bound for heaven, and that the Lions are going to win 10 games this year. My prediction is that he's wrong on both counts.

And how did you come to the conclusion that he's wrong on both counts? Why is it exactly that you think he is going to hell?

Thig Lyfe
11-23-2007, 04:59 PM
And how did you come to the conclusion that he's wrong on both counts? Why is it exactly that you think he is going to hell?

That's not his commentary. The whole post is copied from AOL Fanhouse. I read this story on Deadspin, which is far superior in every way. But anywho.

Really? I found this (http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goatse.cx) interesting:

Goatse.cx was an infamous Internet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet) shock site (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shock_site) that became well-known among various Internet forums because of trolls (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll) who posted links in order to shock other forum readers. Its front page featured a picture, hello.jpg, showing a naked man stretching his anus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anus) open to a diameter roughly equal to the width of his hand, with the inside of his rectum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rectum) clearly visible. Below his gaping anus, his dangling, semi-flaccid penis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penis) and scrotum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scrotum) were visible.

You are a really virtuous guy, but football players who pray are a load of crap. Did I get that right?

I'm pretty sure he didn't choose his name. There's enough to criticize about GoChiefs without reaching for stuff that isn't there.

Here's the thing: "doing good" out of fear of damnation doesn't make you a better person. People who do good without thinking about any heavenly reward are the only really unselfish people. And when you thump your chest and Bible and declare others unfit for that reward, you only compound the problem.

Ricky Gervais puts it this way: "Being an atheist makes someone a clearer-thinking, fairer person... They [atheists] are not doing things to be rewarded in heaven; they're doing things because they're right, because they live by a moral code".

In summary, Kitna is a self-righteous piece of shit who's only "born-again" because otherwise his wife was going to leave him in the dust.

KCJohnny
11-23-2007, 05:02 PM
I'm pretty sure he didn't choose his name. There's enough to criticize about GoChiefs without reaching for stuff that isn't there.



News to me.
My apologies if that is not a self-selected username.

SNR
11-23-2007, 05:05 PM
It would have been funnier if Jon Kitna said, "Why, I'm thankful for Matt Millen, of course. WHAT THE HELL DO YOU THINK I'M THANKFUL FOR?"

Rain Man
11-23-2007, 05:15 PM
We all have our own definitions of hell. One of mine would be living in Detroit and having to call Matt Millen "sir".

jjjayb
11-23-2007, 05:33 PM
In summary, Kitna is a self-righteous piece of shit who's only "born-again" because otherwise his wife was going to leave him in the dust.

Or maybe he's Born again because he saw the light? But I guess you know everything and see into his heart to know the real truth. I've been an Atheist and a Christian. If anything I'd say I think more clearly now that I'm a Christian. But hey, I've been where you are. I've been a self-righteous atheist.

Thig Lyfe
11-23-2007, 05:46 PM
Or maybe he's Born again because he saw the light? But I guess you know everything and see into his heart to know the real truth. I've been an Atheist and a Christian. If anything I'd say I think more clearly now that I'm a Christian. But hey, I've been where you are. I've been a self-righteous atheist.

I've been going to church my whole life. In fact, went with the family on Thanksgiving Eve. And I'm not an atheist, much less a self-righteous one. But after hearing the same messages all these years, the rationale begins to fall apart. It's harder and harder to believe. I'm more of a pessimistic agnostic nowadays.

As for Kitna, the truth is his wife gave him an ultimatum: stop cheating on me, become a Christian, or I'm gone.

And I don't care who you are, thinking God (if there is one) gives a shit about whether you win a football game is ridiculous.

Cochise
11-23-2007, 05:53 PM
so "believer" is back...

BigMeatballDave
11-23-2007, 06:47 PM
News to me.
My apologies if that is not a self-selected username.Yep, that is clearly mod abuse. Not that Clayton doesn't deserve it...

chop
11-23-2007, 06:52 PM
News to me.
My apologies if that is not a self-selected username.

Don't let it bother you too much, he goes out of his way to belittle Christian beliefs on a regular basis.

Dylan
11-23-2007, 07:00 PM
Goatse:

Mainstream journalism has written numerous articles on Jon Kitna's revelations dating back to 2003. A friend of Kitna's gave him a book titled "Wild at Heart: Discovering the Secret of a Man's Soul," by John Eldredge, that Kitna believes has opened his soul to all kinds revelations of predictions.

The New York Times wrote an essay titled "Faith Publishing" and said, "You can stop reading now." The Times article was published 2004 and has nothing to do with Jon Kitna.

The New York Times article, worth the read - or scroll down to the book review. (http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/28/books/review/28DONADIO.html?pagewanted=2)

Google Jon Kitna and Christian. However, Christians don't behave like they're in a cult.

"Eldredge says that God talks to him directly. He also speaks to him through movies, books and so on. I could go on, but really, what's the point?"

I Googled, and there's quite a few critical reviews. This looked interesting. (http://www.ccwonline.org/wild.html)


During an interview with The Cincinnati Post 2003, Jon Kitna began talking about his miracle self-help book -- "Wild Heart."

Another article: Holgrem was a demon... Jon Kitna calls his bible "Wild at Heart: Discovering the Secret of a Man's Soul," by John Eldredge (http://www.cincypost.com/2003/10/27/bengsd10-27-2003.html)


Associated Press: The Christian? - Jon Kitna wearing a naked costume, October 31, 2007
Lord, I can go on forever with Kitna's bizarre behavior (http://www.ccwonline.org/wild.html)


ESPN ... LOL (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=alipour/071016&sportCat=mlb)


Forgot -- Kitna's MySpace (http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=116819319)

effin' nut ;)

Third Eye
11-23-2007, 07:02 PM
Ricky Gervais puts it this way: "Being an atheist makes someone a clearer-thinking, fairer person... They [atheists] are not doing things to be rewarded in heaven; they're doing things because they're right, because they live by a moral code".


Ah, Ricky Gervais, now that is who I listen to for spiritual guidance. Atheists just don't get it either; there is dogma in claiming there is no god as well. Clearer-thinking? Hardly.

Agnostic and proud.

Thig Lyfe
11-23-2007, 07:05 PM
Ah, Ricky Gervais, now that is who I listen to for spiritual guidance. Atheists just don't get it either; there is dogma in claiming there is no god as well. Clearer-thinking? Hardly.

Agnostic and proud.

Yeah, I'm agnostic as well. I was just using his quote to illustrate a point about born-again (and likewise fervent) Christians like Kitna.

Third Eye
11-23-2007, 07:14 PM
Yeah, I'm agnostic as well. I was just using his quote to illustrate a point about born-again (and likewise fervent) Christians like Kitna.

Cool. Having endured the Kurt and Brenda years here in St. Louis, I can relate.

Count Alex's Wins
11-23-2007, 07:31 PM
Personally, Herm seems way over the top to me in believing that the outcome is predetermined by God -- you don't have a problem with that?

Herm does not believe the outcome of games are predetermined.

Dylan
11-23-2007, 08:11 PM
Here's my favorite Jon Kitna story .. ;)

The N.Y. Giants played the Detroit Lions November 18th. Jon Kitna was intercepted three times, a couple of balls deflected and Michael Strahan was so fierce, that he sacked Kitna three times.

After the game, a group of reporters around Strahan included the Detroit press, informed him that Kitna took some verbal shots and said, "He doesn’t feel the better team won today. He said he felt like a team that was worse than them came in here and won this game.”

Strahan's quote:
"Did he really say that? I honestly thought in the first half that was one of the worst teams we played that was 6-3," he said. "I don't quite understand why Jon would say that.

"Maybe we'll see them down the road and if that's the case, we'll beat that as$ again."

Priceless!

The Chiefs will have no problem on defense.

Ultra Peanut
11-23-2007, 08:26 PM
Herm does not believe the outcome of games are predetermined.He does, however, believe that God loves a good 3-2 slugfest.

blueballs
11-23-2007, 08:41 PM
To believe in Jesus means to believe you will be saved
I still find Kitna highly irritating

chop
11-23-2007, 09:14 PM
And when you thump your chest and Bible and declare others unfit for that reward, you only compound the problem.
You must be reading more into what he said than what he actually said. I didn't get out of his comments that he was saying that he was better than anyone else at all.

He basically said that he was thankful that he was going to heaven. If you have ever been a Christian you know you don't go to heaven because of something YOU have done. You only get there by grace and mercy. Christ did all of the work and you simply have to give your life to him. Since there is nothing you do, you cannot "thump your chest". There is nothing boastful about having to have another die for the sins you commit. It's actually humbling.

I don't understand why people, that do not believe in God, get upset about people of God telling them they are not going to get to go to a place they don't think exists anyway.

I was in a hurry so forgive any punctuation problems.

Dylan
11-23-2007, 09:32 PM
Jon Kitna, "The Faith Healer" http://www.hardwarezone.com/img/forums/styles/hwz/smilies/crazy.gif


Kitna: "Miracle' allowed comeback return"
September 17, 2007

ALLEN PARK, Mich. (AP) -- Detroit quarterback Jon Kitna expected people to snicker and laugh when they heard his explanation for his comeback against Minnesota after getting knocked out of the game with a concussion.

"It was a miracle," Kitna said Monday.

Kitna left the game in the second quarter, returned in the fourth and led the Lions to a 20-17 win over the Vikings in overtime on Sunday.

He said it was the third concussion of his NFL career, and the first since 2001. Kitna said he also had a concussion playing for Seattle against San Francisco in a 1997 preseason game.

"I've never felt anything like that, and for it to clear up and go right back to as normal as I can be, is nothing short of a miracle," Kitna said. "I just definitely feel the hand of God. That's all it was. You can't explain it.

"I have no headaches, no symptoms, no lingering effects. But that was the worst my head has ever felt, and the worse my memory was in the second quarter. Yet, after halftime there was nothing."

barry_smilez20
11-23-2007, 09:39 PM
being a lions fan id say hes got a better chance of going to heaven than us getting 10 whens 6-10 will be our record

Count Alex's Wins
11-23-2007, 09:43 PM
Kitna is ****ing brainwashed. What a tard.

barry_smilez20
11-23-2007, 09:46 PM
Kitna is ****ing brainwashed. What a tard.

who do you think has a higher I.Q herm or kitna

Dylan
11-23-2007, 10:08 PM
who do you think has a higher I.Q herm or kitna
No contest, coach Edwards.

Looking at the big picture, as long as Kitna can heal himself, I would be thankful. ;)

barry_smilez20
11-23-2007, 10:10 PM
No contest, coach Edwards.

Looking at the big picture, as long as Kitna can heal himself, I would be thankful. ;)

but i still think a rock beats both of them

Easy 6
11-23-2007, 10:16 PM
"The Faith Healer"

Its not as crazy as you might think.

Was this really necessary GC??? Isnt there already a thread for making fun of people on this subject???

Count Alex's Wins
11-23-2007, 10:22 PM
Was this really necessary GC??? Isnt there already a thread for making fun of people on this subject???

This is a separate subject. We are making fun of Jon Kitna for being a loon. Unfortunately KCJohnny had to come along and derail the thread.

barry_smilez20
11-23-2007, 10:28 PM
buts its true he is a loon

Easy 6
11-23-2007, 10:45 PM
buts its true he is a loon

Well he must be a very respected loon among his teammates, i just read an article today about Jon.

There are a dozen or more Lions that come to his house every single week to hang out & do Bible studies, he even got Roy Williams interested in it.

He's a great guy by every single account i've ever read, but because he believes in something you dont he MUST be some kind of kook...what a f&cking STUPID way to think.

barry_smilez20
11-23-2007, 10:48 PM
Well he must be a very respected loon among his teammates, i just read an article today about Jon.

There are a dozen or more Lions that come to his house every single week to hang out & do Bible studies, he even got Roy Williams interested in it.

He's a great guy by every single account i've ever read, but because he believes in something you dont he MUST be some kind of kook...what a f&cking STUPID way to think.

when did anyone say they didnt believe in god?

Count Alex's Wins
11-23-2007, 10:49 PM
Well he must be a very respected loon among his teammates, i just read an article today about Jon.

There are a dozen or more Lions that come to his house every single week to hang out & do Bible studies, he even got Roy Williams interested in it.

He's a great guy by every single account i've ever read, but because he believes in something you dont he MUST be some kind of kook...what a f&cking STUPID way to think.

It's not about his beliefs...it's about the way he publicizes them. He's a loon through and through. Nothing WRONG with that. In fact, it's quite entertaining. I applaud Jon Kitna's efforts at loony-ness and hope he continues making me laugh.

Easy 6
11-23-2007, 10:51 PM
when did anyone say they didnt believe in god?

Are you saying you believe in God???

If so, why is Kitna a loon???

barry_smilez20
11-23-2007, 10:54 PM
[QUOTE=scott free]Are you saying you believe in God???

If so, why is Kitna a loon???[/QUOTE

he could have said"my familly or something " but he had to go all out and be that smug religious man and pronounce publicly that he isnt going to hell

Easy 6
11-23-2007, 10:58 PM
[QUOTE=scott free]Are you saying you believe in God???

If so, why is Kitna a loon???[/QUOTE

he could have said"my familly or something " but he had to go all out and be that smug religious man and pronounce publicly that he isnt going to hell

I would have to agree about that, he didnt need to go over the top like he did.

But i still have no doubts that he is a good guy, we all make mistakes.

FringeNC
11-23-2007, 11:22 PM
Herm does not believe the outcome of games are predetermined.

Bullshit. You obviously didn't read the other thread:

"God already knows the score before the game's going to be played. He just wants to see how you're going to act afterward," the 53-year-old coach tells The Pitch.

Count Alex's Wins
11-23-2007, 11:25 PM
Bullshit. You obviously didn't read the other thread:

"God already knows the score before the game's going to be played. He just wants to see how you're going to act afterward," the 53-year-old coach tells The Pitch.

My bad. In that case Herm is a dumbass. But everyone is a dumbass in some way. No one ever accused Herm of being perfect. Everyone has their flaws.

Thig Lyfe
11-23-2007, 11:36 PM
You must be reading more into what he said than what he actually said. I didn't get out of his comments that he was saying that he was better than anyone else at all.


Come on. He's saying he's going to heaven because of his beliefs, implying that everybody who doesn't believe what he believes is going to hell. Thus, "Look at me, I'm a born-again Christian! I'm going to heaven and you aren't!"

It's naive to think that this isn't the implication. Why wouldn't he just say "I'm thankful for the life God has blessed me with" or something to that effect? Expresses his faith (which he feels the need to constantly do, and more power to him) without shitting all over people who don't share that faith.

KCJohnny
11-23-2007, 11:41 PM
This is a separate subject. We are making fun of Jon Kitna for being a loon. Unfortunately KCJohnny had to come along and derail the thread.
Yes, KCJohnny should have just sat back and allowed his religion to be ridiculed. That's what would please the mockers and scoffers.

Count Alex's Wins
11-23-2007, 11:44 PM
Yes, KCJohnny should have just sat back and allowed his religion to be ridiculed. That's what would please the mockers and scoffers.

Your rebuttal is painfully obtuse. We are not mocking anyone's religion. We are only mocking Jon Kitna, and his loony behavior.

KCJohnny
11-23-2007, 11:50 PM
Your rebuttal is painfully obtuse. We are not mocking anyone's religion. We are only mocking Jon Kitna, and his loony behavior.

Yes you are, and have on many posts prior to this gratuitous cheap shot.

The quote from Kitna is "I am thankful that I don't have to go to hell" - meaning someone has redeemed me from my guilt and made the way of salvation possible.

Christians have followed this doctrine for 2,000 years and take great umbrage at the mocking of the sacrifice of Christ.

Thig Lyfe
11-23-2007, 11:51 PM
Yes, KCJohnny should have just sat back and allowed his religion to be ridiculed. That's what would please the mockers and scoffers.

Man, you fervent Christians sure take yourselves way too seriously. NOBODY BROUGHT UP CHRISTIANITY ITSELF BEFORE YOUR POST. You caused this thread to take the direction it has taken.

Believer II.

Count Alex's Wins
11-23-2007, 11:57 PM
The quote from Kitna is "I am thankful that I don't have to go to hell" - meaning someone has redeemed me from my guilt and made the way of salvation possible.


We are not mocking his supposed salvation. We are only mocking his ridiculous attempt to publicize it. He is a loon.

the Talking Can
11-24-2007, 12:00 AM
Christ owes me $2.50

KCJohnny
11-24-2007, 12:06 AM
We are not mocking his supposed salvation. We are only mocking his ridiculous attempt to publicize it. He is a loon.

In the Church, we call it witnessing to the Truth. You are free to dismiss it, and whatever course you finally choose, you will give an account of your actions to the Living God. But when you make sport of a Christian, expect to attract attention from those of us who don't cringe and cower as our faith is made sport of in the public arena.

You posted a blasphemous image of Christ as a satanic icon on another thread. That is mocking the Christian religion. Expect that many Christians will make you an object of their prayer.

Dylan
11-24-2007, 12:08 AM
Jon Kitna follows Christian Warrior movement by author, activist and counselor John Eldredge. "Unsupported Christians" are characterized by Eldredge as "extraordinary damaging to our movement."

Eldredge' strange theologies and cult followers or no different than Ron Hubbard's Scientologists.

It's from the Movement to an Institution. These movements succeed in capturing the minds of their victims by using manipulated mind control brainwashing.

KCJohnny
11-24-2007, 12:09 AM
Man, you fervent Christians sure take yourselves way too seriously. NOBODY BROUGHT UP CHRISTIANITY ITSELF BEFORE YOUR POST. You caused this thread to take the direction it has taken.

Believer II.

Right. ;)
Nothing serious about eternal damnation.

Got it. Thanks.

Thig Lyfe
11-24-2007, 12:15 AM
Right. ;)
Nothing serious about eternal damnation.

Got it. Thanks.

Are you Carl Lewis? Because you're damn good at taking leaps.

I am in no way saying that eternal damnation is a laff and half. I'm saying that YOU take YOURSELF too seriously, because anything that can be possibly even slightly perceived as insulting to any single facet of your religion is prompts you to derail a thread with some full-steam-ahead defense of Jesus.

You don't need to be a "Christian Warrior" every time somebody makes a Kitna joke.

Count Alex's Wins
11-24-2007, 12:17 AM
But when you make sport of a Christian, expect to attract attention from those of us who don't cringe and cower as our faith is made sport of in the public arena.


Good. I'm glad you're so entertaining in that regard. At least it serves some use.

Count Alex's Wins
11-24-2007, 12:17 AM
Christ owes me $2.50

BLASPHEMER!

KCJohnny
11-24-2007, 12:23 AM
Are you Carl Lewis? Because you're damn good at taking leaps.

I am in no way saying that eternal damnation is a laff and half. I'm saying that YOU take YOURSELF too seriously, because anything that can be possibly even slightly perceived as insulting to any single facet of your religion is prompts you to derail a thread with some full-steam-ahead defense of Jesus.

You don't need to be a "Christian Warrior" every time somebody makes a Kitna joke.

Right. That's your opinion. Thanks for sharing.

Leadership summons forth more than sheepish acquiesence. The subject of Christ in the public square is relevant for our times. People who make sport of Christian faith and practice should expect vigorous response.

You have a dangerous perspective on life when you view the possible "harm" done to an internet football thread as a greater injustice than the mocking of Christian faith in the light of eternal destiny. I sir, do not share your sense of levity at the expense of a fellow believer and his sincere attempt to witness to the Gospel of eternal salvation.

Dylan
11-24-2007, 12:26 AM
we have christian warriors here? http://www.hardwarezone.com/img/forums/styles/hwz/smilies/crazy.gif















j/k...i don't want to get in trouble, i'm a guest. ... ROFL

Count Alex's Wins
11-24-2007, 12:26 AM
I sir, do not share your sense of levity at the expense of a fellow believer and his sincere attempt to witness to the Gospel of eternal salvation.

I'll pray for you. To the one true god....

THOR!


http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/4315/150097thor400mj4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Thig Lyfe
11-24-2007, 02:09 AM
Right. That's your opinion. Thanks for sharing.

Leadership summons forth more than sheepish acquiesence. The subject of Christ in the public square is relevant for our times. People who make sport of Christian faith and practice should expect vigorous response.

You have a dangerous perspective on life when you view the possible "harm" done to an internet football thread as a greater injustice than the mocking of Christian faith in the light of eternal destiny. I sir, do not share your sense of levity at the expense of a fellow believer and his sincere attempt to witness to the Gospel of eternal salvation.

Oy. There will never be peace on earth as long as there are zealots around to start wars over who's right about God.

This thread is a microcosm of everything holy war (of all religions) is about.

keg in kc
11-24-2007, 02:31 AM
Are you Carl Lewis? Because you're damn good at taking leaps.

I am in no way saying that eternal damnation is a laff and half. I'm saying that YOU take YOURSELF too seriously, because anything that can be possibly even slightly perceived as insulting to any single facet of your religion is prompts you to derail a thread with some full-steam-ahead defense of Jesus.

You don't need to be a "Christian Warrior" every time somebody makes a Kitna joke.It's classic KCJohnny. Whether the topic is football or religion or anything else under the sun, disagree at your own risk. Because before it's over, unless you decide to bow down to his infinite wisdom, you're going to get a self-righteous cyberboot up your ass from our resident supersoldier/chaplain/dramaqueen.

Ultra Peanut
11-24-2007, 04:18 AM
Yes, KCJohnny should have just sat back and allowed his religion to be ridiculed. That's what would please the mockers and scoffers.Do your religion a favor next time: Don't send KCJohnny to defend it.

BigMeatballDave
11-24-2007, 04:27 AM
I'm glad Johnny didn't blow this thread out of proportion...

the Talking Can
11-24-2007, 07:49 AM
Right. That's your opinion. Thanks for sharing.

Leadership summons forth more than sheepish acquiesence. The subject of Christ in the public square is relevant for our times. People who make sport of Christian faith and practice should expect vigorous response.

You have a dangerous perspective on life when you view the possible "harm" done to an internet football thread as a greater injustice than the mocking of Christian faith in the light of eternal destiny. I sir, do not share your sense of levity at the expense of a fellow believer and his sincere attempt to witness to the Gospel of eternal salvation.

righteousness and alcoholism....just my .02, but neither are doing you any good....

chop
11-24-2007, 08:15 AM
Come on. He's saying he's going to heaven because of his beliefs, implying that everybody who doesn't believe what he believes is going to hell. Thus, "Look at me, I'm a born-again Christian! I'm going to heaven and you aren't!"

It's naive to think that this isn't the implication. Why wouldn't he just say "I'm thankful for the life God has blessed me with" or something to that effect? Expresses his faith (which he feels the need to constantly do, and more power to him) without shitting all over people who don't share that faith.

It sounds like you have some issues you need to deal with. This isn't about what Jon Kitna may have said (or not said). I hope you can work through them and get rid of the anger you have.

Easy 6
11-24-2007, 08:55 PM
It's classic KCJohnny. Whether the topic is football or religion or anything else under the sun, disagree at your own risk. Because before it's over, unless you decide to bow down to his infinite wisdom, you're going to get a self-righteous cyberboot up your ass from our resident supersoldier/chaplain/dramaqueen.

I know Johnny used to go WAY off the deep end, but i havent seen that side of him since he came back. He has responded to the posts here firmly...but its ALL been totally civil...not crass, over the top or threatening.

In any other post of yours keg, you seem totally down to earth & rational...one of the best here...but IMO you have an outdated grudge for John.

I hated bringing this thread to the fore again, i'd rather let these kind of threads die...but folks are being too hard on Johnny, he's been a great poster here (except the Bigfoot at RB thing, shEEESH!!!) since his return IMVVHO.

'Hamas' Jenkins
11-24-2007, 08:58 PM
Christ owes me $2.50

"Know him? Shit, n*gga owes me 12 bucks"--Chris Rock.

barry_smilez20
11-24-2007, 09:01 PM
why did god have to make me a lions fan???

Easy 6
11-24-2007, 09:03 PM
why did god have to make me a lions fan???

It HAS been a rough go for you guys, but just look at it as the price you pay for the privelege of having Barry.

barry_smilez20
11-24-2007, 09:04 PM
It HAS been a rough go for you guys, but just look at it as the price you pay for the privelege of having Barry.

this is true and ive heard tale that hes coming out of retirement

Easy 6
11-24-2007, 09:06 PM
this is true and ive heard tale that hes coming out of retirement

HA...good luck with that.

Though i bet if he got into tip-top condition he could STILL light it up behind a good line. That would be one of the best sports stories of the last 50 years.

barry_smilez20
11-24-2007, 09:08 PM
HA...good luck with that.

Though i bet if he got into tip-top condition he could STILL light it up behind a good line. That would be one of the best sports stories of the last 50 years.

your right i need to start working on getting him back into shape i mean we bowl together alot but i dont know if that will cut it

Easy 6
11-24-2007, 09:09 PM
your right i need to start working on getting him back into shape i mean we bowl together alot but i dont know if that will cut it

Get outta here...you cant be serious...are you???

barry_smilez20
11-24-2007, 09:11 PM
does this video lie???????


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Easy 6
11-24-2007, 09:23 PM
does this video lie???????


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My God...he was just BRILLIANT, it was always my DISTINCT pleasure to watch him play...the way he was wasted STILL burns me up inside.

He was the BEST to ever play, no matter WHAT his Dad thinks...everyone else is just swimming in his wake...Sweetness, Brown, definitely Emmitts lucky ass...all of'em, just treading water behind him.

Do you really bowl with Barry???

barry_smilez20
11-24-2007, 09:25 PM
My God...he was just BRILLIANT, it was always my DISTINCT pleasure to watch him play...the way he was wasted STILL burns me up inside.

He was the BEST to ever play, no matter WHAT his Dad thinks...everyone else is just swimming in his wake...Sweetness, Brown, definitely Emmitts lucky ass...all of'em, just treading water behind him.

Do you really bowl with Barry???

nahh i wish i bowled with barry yea i wish the packers would have drafted him when they had the chance

Easy 6
11-24-2007, 09:28 PM
nahh i wish i bowled with barry yea i wish the packers would have drafted him when they had the chance

Favre & Sanders...its hard to wrap ones mind around just how incredible THAT would have been.

barry_smilez20
11-24-2007, 09:30 PM
Favre & Sanders...its hard to wrap ones mind around just how incredible THAT would have been.

this is true if that had happened id probably be a packer fan with my brother and dad

OctoberFart
11-24-2007, 10:38 PM
In summary, Kitna is a self-righteous piece of shit who's only "born-again" because otherwise his wife was going to leave him in the dust.
And how do you know this? Not saying you are wrong but would like to know how you know that?

chop
11-24-2007, 10:51 PM
And how do you know this? Not saying you are wrong but would like to know how you know that?

Because he can read minds and intentions of others.