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Gracie Dean
12-02-2007, 04:32 PM
It looked like there were a LOT of empty seats


were people making a statement?

did it seem hollow?

cookster50
12-02-2007, 04:33 PM
Game wasn't blacked out, that means tickets were sold. Carl could care less if people show, as long as the tickets are sold.

chiefbowe82
12-02-2007, 04:33 PM
just wait till the titans game

BWillie
12-02-2007, 04:34 PM
I would imagine it was 49% full at the start of the game. When we were only down by 7 at the end of the third quarter, people were already leaving..but that might of had something to do with the cold as well. Either way it was ugly. Most people aren't making a "statement", they just don't want to sit in the cold to watch a shitty team play football. It's as easy as that.

Sure-Oz
12-02-2007, 04:35 PM
3/4 stadium seemed filled but about half time or 3rd qtr it was half empty. it was pathetic i have zero wins this year when i attend in 5 tries

Gracie Dean
12-02-2007, 04:36 PM
This was the first Sunday that I didn't have the expectation that they could win. We went through the motions, ordered the BBQ and dressed in the jerseys and put the Big Chief outside, but I really didn't expect them to win

Gracie Dean
12-02-2007, 04:37 PM
At the end on TV Tony G looked very unhappy

Frazod
12-02-2007, 04:42 PM
Last week I didn't bother to use tickets I had already paid for (wise decision, as it turned out). I suspect similar attitudes account for many of those empty seats. I also suspect that brokers and other people who bought seats with the idea of making money off reselling them are the ones getting pulverized right now, not the organization, which already made its money off of them.

Next year is when we'll see the blackouts, IMO. Lots of them. After that, the Hunt$ will finally be forced to shitcan Carl.

BWillie
12-02-2007, 04:43 PM
I'm wearing a brown bag over my head to the Titan's game with two little holes. Or maybe something else I can conjure up. Anybody have any ideas?

Bowser
12-02-2007, 04:44 PM
At the end on TV Tony G looked very unhappy

Shocking.

Well, not so much.

Gracie Dean
12-02-2007, 04:44 PM
I'm wearing a brown bag over my head to the Titan's game with two little holes. Or maybe something else I can conjure up. Anybody have any ideas?

my brother and I laughed about that is what we would where had we been there.

Rain Man
12-02-2007, 04:45 PM
I noticed around the beginning of the fourth quarter that the top deck of the stadium was far less than halfway full, and the lower decks looked maybe half or a little more. People are voting with their feet on the Herm/Carl ("Hurl") regime. We need them on the first train out of here.

BWillie
12-02-2007, 04:46 PM
At the end on TV Tony G looked very unhappy

Trade the man. Tony G has trade value,..unlike another guy with a fat contract on our team. Ahem.

Bowser
12-02-2007, 04:47 PM
I noticed around the beginning of the fourth quarter that the top deck of the stadium was far less than halfway full, and the lower decks looked maybe half or a little more. People are voting with their feet on the Herm/Carl ("Hurl") regime. We need them on the first train out of here.

People started pouring out with 10 minutes to go in the fourth. We made it to the 3 minute mark, and couldn't stand it any longer.

Good lord it was cold out there today.

Saulbadguy
12-02-2007, 04:47 PM
Lots of empties up in the upper level. Scattered empties throughout club level and lower level. Club level was nearly empty in the middle of the 4th. The rest was emptying out quickly.

Frazod
12-02-2007, 04:49 PM
As far as next year goes, I'll probably come down for the Border War game again, but I have no plans on paying to see the Chiefs again until Herm and Carl have been cleansed. No Sunday Ticket next year, either.

Gracie Dean
12-02-2007, 04:51 PM
it seemed like no one was in the yellow backed chairs during the 4th quarter and the upper tier was pretty empty as well

Bowser
12-02-2007, 04:52 PM
As far as next year goes, I'll probably come down for the Border War game again, but I have no plans on paying to see the Chiefs again until Herm and Carl have been cleansed. No Sunday Ticket next year, either.

Yeah, either get the tickets again, or go to Turks and Caicos. This might be an easier decision than I thought it might be.

Rain Man
12-02-2007, 04:57 PM
Serious question: I'm going to the Titans game. Can I bring a small white board with me? You know, the boards where you can erase messages? I've got a lot of things I want to say to Herm and Chiefs (mis)Management.

Bowser
12-02-2007, 04:59 PM
Serious question: I'm going to the Titans game. Can I bring a small white board with me? You know, the boards where you can erase messages? I've got a lot of things I want to say to Herm and Chiefs (mis)Management.

Heh. I doubt it. You can always call Arrowhead and ask. :)

Frazod
12-02-2007, 05:01 PM
Serious question: I'm going to the Titans game. Can I bring a small white board with me? You know, the boards where you can erase messages? I've got a lot of things I want to say to Herm and Chiefs (mis)Management.

Look at it this way - if you stick around until the middle of the 3rd quarter, you'll be able to move down to the front row and yell anything at Carl that you want.

chiefqueen
12-02-2007, 05:02 PM
I was one of those whimps who chose not to use my tix, it was just too cold.

Bowser
12-02-2007, 05:03 PM
I was one of those whimps who chose not to use my tix, it was just too cold.

You were smarter than about 55,000 people.

Ari ümlaüt
12-02-2007, 05:05 PM
I'm wearing a brown bag over my head to the Titan's game with two little holes. Or maybe something else I can conjure up. Anybody have any ideas?

I wore a brown bag at the Chiefs game today, a Chipolte sack with the handles on it... with FIRE CARL on it. It kept my face amazingly warm...

Demonpenz
12-02-2007, 05:11 PM
i have been too two colder games than today. bills game where warfield had a pick and some snowfield god aweful chiefs lions game

blueballs
12-02-2007, 05:15 PM
Carl must go

Gracie Dean
12-02-2007, 05:15 PM
First game I ever attended was in I believe December 96 against the Saints...bono had been down all season with the collar bone...Gannon had done great and then they played Bono against the STS. We won, but it was an ICE storm...beer froze between the consession stand and our seats...man that was cold

chiefqueen
12-02-2007, 05:16 PM
I wore a brown bag at the Chiefs game today, a Chipolte sack with the handles on it... with FIRE CARL on it. It kept my face amazingly warm...

I'm surprised Carl did not have security take it away.

wazu
12-02-2007, 05:28 PM
I don't get the empty seats. The tickets cost a fortune. How can people afford to just burn their tickets game after game? All of mine this year were either used by me or sold at face value. (Except for preseason, of course.) I wonder if any of the people that bought mine just said, "eh, screw it. Let's not go."

Simplex3
12-02-2007, 05:33 PM
Game wasn't blacked out, that means tickets were sold. Carl could care less if people show, as long as the tickets are sold.
Concessions. He cares. Unless you think that beer cost him $7.00.

gblowfish
12-02-2007, 05:35 PM
First game I ever attended was in I believe December 96 against the Saints...bono had been down all season with the collar bone...Gannon had done great and then they played Bono against the STS. We won, but it was an ICE storm...beer froze between the consession stand and our seats...man that was cold

Eh, it's been colder on many occasions. Today wasn't even in the top ten.

Simplex3
12-02-2007, 05:37 PM
I don't get the empty seats. The tickets cost a fortune. How can people afford to just burn their tickets game after game? All of mine this year were either used by me or sold at face value. (Except for preseason, of course.) I wonder if any of the people that bought mine just said, "eh, screw it. Let's not go."
You've already lost the $100. Why piss away 5 hours, too?

Frazod
12-02-2007, 05:39 PM
Concessions. He cares. Unless you think that beer cost him $7.00.

You're right - I didn't think about that. And somehow I doubt if any of the stadium shops did any record business today, either.

On a personal note, another thing that was different about my trip to Kansas City last week - for the first time, I didn't buy ANY Chiefs merchandise. Didn't even bother to stop by Sports Nutz (bought nothing but Mizzou stuff, and I did that at the official MU store in the Columbia Mall).

ChiefsFanInIndy
12-02-2007, 06:15 PM
I'm wearing a brown bag over my head to the Titan's game with two little holes. Or maybe something else I can conjure up. Anybody have any ideas?

Don't bother with the holes. Nothing worth seeing.

burt
12-02-2007, 06:18 PM
You've already lost the $100. Why piss away 5 hours, too?

$100.00??? Try $164.00....but I agree with your statement, and that is why I sold my tix. I enjoyed the day with my family and about 15 abused minutes watching the game on TV.

ChiefsCountry
12-02-2007, 06:42 PM
First game I ever attended was in I believe December 96 against the Saints...bono had been down all season with the collar bone...Gannon had done great and then they played Bono against the STS. We won, but it was an ICE storm...beer froze between the consession stand and our seats...man that was cold

That was 97 and it was Grbac. ;)

ChiefsCountry
12-02-2007, 06:45 PM
I know I did something stupid today, my season tickets are in the upper deck - well we were blocked from the wind and sun was on us. But we saw all the empty seats below so we moved down to lower level and froze my a$$ off. It was 10 to 15 degrees cooler down there.

Gracie Dean
12-02-2007, 06:45 PM
That was 97 and it was Grbac. ;)


Yes it was Grbac...my mistake...but are you sure it was 97?

Guru
12-02-2007, 06:54 PM
cracked me up that people started leaving as soon as we were down by 7 in the 3rd.

Mojo Rising
12-02-2007, 07:13 PM
3/4 stadium seemed filled but about half time or 3rd qtr it was half empty. it was pathetic i have zero wins this year when i attend in 5 tries

I was lucky enough to be 3 - 0 this year at Chiefs games and 1 -0 at USC games for a combined 4 - 0.

headsnap
12-02-2007, 07:17 PM
cracked me up that people started leaving as soon as we were down by 7 in the 3rd.
you just can't overcome being down by that much...

ChiefsCountry
12-02-2007, 07:44 PM
Yes it was Grbac...my mistake...but are you sure it was 97?

Yep it was, we signed him in 1997.

Davechief
12-02-2007, 07:45 PM
I could see how someone could confuse Bono and Grbac.

Valiant
12-02-2007, 07:50 PM
Game wasn't blacked out, that means tickets were sold. Carl could care less if people show, as long as the tickets are sold.


How many of those tickets were bought by the stations though???

I predicted before the season started that the Titans game would get a blackout, of course that would be diverted if the tv stations buy them all at a huge discount.. I would expect half or less depending on the weather for that game..

Valiant
12-02-2007, 07:53 PM
I don't get the empty seats. The tickets cost a fortune. How can people afford to just burn their tickets game after game? All of mine this year were either used by me or sold at face value. (Except for preseason, of course.) I wonder if any of the people that bought mine just said, "eh, screw it. Let's not go."


Not go and be out your 55-90 dollars..


Go and be out that initial cost plus, parking, food, beer and watching the chiefs O..


Seems pretty simple to me on what decision most would choose...

Guru
12-02-2007, 07:55 PM
If I have tickets to a game, you are damn straight I go to the game.

wazu
12-02-2007, 07:55 PM
You've already lost the $100. Why piss away 5 hours, too?

Well, considering they sell out preseason games...

luv
12-02-2007, 07:56 PM
Not go and be out your 55-90 dollars..


Go and be out that initial cost plus, parking, food, beer and watching the chiefs O..


Seems pretty simple to me on what decision most would choose...
I'm odd.

BigRedChief
12-03-2007, 04:46 AM
Eh, it's been colder on many occasions. Today wasn't even in the top ten.No chit what a bunch of wimps. Cold? Just last year I was out tailgating in the 35 degree steady rain. Stayed till the last second ticked off the clock. How about the playoff game when we had an ice storm? But that's now a part of history.

I sold my tickets for this game. Apathy reins.

Mecca
12-03-2007, 05:01 AM
The cold is a lot easier to deal with when the team is good or there is something to cheer for...

Tribal Warfare
12-03-2007, 05:25 AM
I'm wearing a brown bag over my head to the Titan's game with two little holes. Or maybe something else I can conjure up. Anybody have any ideas?


Write on the bag In Carl We Trusted

Bob Dole
12-03-2007, 06:14 AM
Game wasn't blacked out, that means tickets were sold. Carl could care less if people show, as long as the tickets are sold.
That's not even close to correct.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist (or an accountant) to figure out the bottom-line, financial impact of no-shows.

Saulbadguy
12-03-2007, 06:22 AM
FWIW, when they were honoring Jerome Woods before the game, Carl was booed. It was pretty loud.

Bob Dole
12-03-2007, 06:27 AM
The announced attendance of 74,874 was the smallest at Arrowhead Stadium in almost six years.

EyePod
12-03-2007, 06:27 AM
3/4 stadium seemed filled but about half time or 3rd qtr it was half empty. it was pathetic i have zero wins this year when i attend in 5 tries

Stop going then! WTF?!?!?! How do you sleep at night when you know you've caused 5 chiefs losses??? We could be 9-3 right now if it weren't for you!!! *COUGH COUGH* 9-3...... :(

BigRedChief
12-03-2007, 06:37 AM
FWIW, when they were honoring Jerome Woods before the game, Carl was booed. It was pretty loud.
Honoring Jerome Woods for what? Getting a big time contract and then refusing to hit anyone or be hit?

Saulbadguy
12-03-2007, 07:55 AM
Honoring Jerome Woods for what? Getting a big time contract and then refusing to hit anyone or be hit?
Being a good guy, I suppose.

BigRedChief
12-03-2007, 08:24 AM
Being a good guy, I suppose.Wellllll I coach a little league baseball team, active in the PTA, volunteer to help out at charity events etc Do I get to be honored next home game?

Woods made his choice to lay down and play cautious and then bitch and moan about how he lost his starting job.

The way Woods went out was shameful and he should never have been "honored" on the field.

Saulbadguy
12-03-2007, 08:32 AM
Wellllll I coach a little league baseball team, active in the PTA, volunteer to help out at charity events etc Do I get to be honored next home game?

Woods made his choice to lay down and play cautious and then bitch and moan about how he lost his starting job.

The way Woods went out was shameful and he should never have been "honored" on the field.
Now come on, he wasn't that bad.

Brock
12-03-2007, 08:35 AM
Last time I saw Jerome Woods, he was being slapped around by Daunte Culpepper.

Chief Henry
12-03-2007, 09:14 AM
The fans are starting to revolt. Its about f'n time.

Manila-Chief
12-03-2007, 10:32 AM
The cold is a lot easier to deal with when the team is good or there is something to cheer for...

Yep!!! You are so right. I was at the last playoff game in Memorial Stadium on I believe Christmas Day? ... was it in '71? Man was it cold, but the cold was easy to endure coz we thought we would win. That was the beginning of the rise of the Dolphins and the downfall of the Chiefs.

Let me change the thought a little ... I don't mind following a team that is building towards becoming a champion. i.e. even the early days of the Royals. They lost a lot of games but we could see the progress and delighted in watching "our" team. I think I see a slight ray of hope, again, with Moore as GM???

If Kingless/Herm would give us a blueprint for rebuilding the team ... I could go watch in freezing weather. But, with this mess it's hard to watch it even in my comfortable living room. But, with CP pretending we will win the SB this year and forcing Herm to play Huard to start the season so the team could win enough games to keep the $$$ rolling in ... one gets a hopeless feeling that things will never get better, coz he is only concerned about this year's bank account.

gblowfish
12-03-2007, 10:35 AM
Yep!!! You are so right. I was at the last playoff game in Memorial Stadium on I believe Christmas Day? ... was it in '71? Man was it cold, but the cold was easy to endure coz we thought we would win. That was the beginning of the rise of the Dolphins and the downfall of the Chiefs

Um, sorry to mess with your memory, but that Christmas Day game in 1971 was unusually warm, it was around 63 degrees that day, which helped the Dolphins a bunch, because they were a warm weather climate team. A 20 degree day would have probably been an advantage for the Chiefs.

Yesterday's loss may have been worse in warmer weather, since San Diego is also a warm weather team.

Manila-Chief
12-03-2007, 01:24 PM
You are correct ... :banghead: I did a search and finally found the temps ... man, I sure don't remember it that way ... maybe I just glamorized the cold weather over time or maybe it just turned that cold after watching Garo Yepremian make the field goal. :nosmilie:

luv
12-03-2007, 01:35 PM
FWIW, when they were honoring Jerome Woods before the game, Carl was booed. It was pretty loud.
The lady sitting next to me was there with her husband and two small children. Whenever that happened, she asked who he was and why he was being booed. We told her who he was. I asked her if she noticed all of the empty seats. When she said yes, I simply said we basically had him to thank for that. I don't think she understood, but that was the best way I could think of to explain it.